Re: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash
He did indicate a few messages ago that he’s using Kubuntu 18.04. But overall, good advice, regardless. FYI, from another recent discussion I glean from one of the devs that those transaction log files are not needed or even useful once a successful save has taken place. That is, only the most recent log file (between the last successful save and a crash state) is needed to replay the transactions back into the file. You can routinely safely delete the older ones. They won’t be used or needed. I use the sqlite3 backend, so I don’t get log files anymore, but perhaps one or more of the settings in Preferences can trim those down a bit for you. Regards, Adrien > On Aug 2, 2018, at 12:26 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote: > > On 08/02/2018 07:24 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> First, please reply to the list so others can benefit from the conversation. >> >> Absolutely you can save your file in a new location. >> >> Where would you like to save it? Somewhere in your Home folder tree is what >> I’d think most people use. >> >> Does it need to be on a removable drive or can it be stored on the internal >> HD/SSD? What was the reason for using the removable drive in the first place? >> >> p.s—I’m going to be away from my computer till this evening, but someone >> else might chime in before me based on your answers. >> >> Regards, >> Adrien >> >>> On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Dick Barmann wrote: >>> >>> How can I close "save as" to set a new location that will not have a long >>> name and cannot not be found. My existing files are deep in the program and >>> I keep getting that file cannot be found. Can I create a folder that can be >>> found and close with it. I am using Linux. >>> >>> Richard Barmann >>> >>> > > Richard, > You didn't indicate which version of *Nix you have. I am using Ubuntu > 18.04. In my situation, I keep books for personal as well as an LLC I > own. In my $HOME folder I created a Finance Folder and under that a > folder for SteveWanita (could call it Personal) and one for the LLC. I > save as to these folders the first time. And yes, it is a pain the see > the folder with all the logs and backups in there. Once in a while I go > on a jihad to clean them out. I'm running the supplied backup utility > to send the daily backups to a Windows share that sits on the Windows > box (external drive -- always mounted). On one occasion I had to > recover my LLC finances from there as I was too aggressive in removing > the logs/backups. <> > > However, I can click on the file name and GnuCash fires up with it > opened and read to go. Or, I can click on the Icon for GnuCash frozen > to the left panel and get whichever one I worked on last. Usually that > isn't the one I want! > > Hope this helps. > > --Steve > > -- > > Stephen M Butler, PMP, PSM > stephen.m.butle...@gmail.com > kg...@arrl.net > 253-350-0166 > --- > GnuPG Fingerprint: 8A25 9726 D439 758D D846 E5D4 282A 5477 0385 81D8 > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash
On 08/02/2018 07:24 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > First, please reply to the list so others can benefit from the conversation. > > Absolutely you can save your file in a new location. > > Where would you like to save it? Somewhere in your Home folder tree is what > I’d think most people use. > > Does it need to be on a removable drive or can it be stored on the internal > HD/SSD? What was the reason for using the removable drive in the first place? > > p.s—I’m going to be away from my computer till this evening, but someone else > might chime in before me based on your answers. > > Regards, > Adrien > >> On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Dick Barmann wrote: >> >> How can I close "save as" to set a new location that will not have a long >> name and cannot not be found. My existing files are deep in the program and >> I keep getting that file cannot be found. Can I create a folder that can be >> found and close with it. I am using Linux. >> >> Richard Barmann >> >> Richard, You didn't indicate which version of *Nix you have. I am using Ubuntu 18.04. In my situation, I keep books for personal as well as an LLC I own. In my $HOME folder I created a Finance Folder and under that a folder for SteveWanita (could call it Personal) and one for the LLC. I save as to these folders the first time. And yes, it is a pain the see the folder with all the logs and backups in there. Once in a while I go on a jihad to clean them out. I'm running the supplied backup utility to send the daily backups to a Windows share that sits on the Windows box (external drive -- always mounted). On one occasion I had to recover my LLC finances from there as I was too aggressive in removing the logs/backups. <> However, I can click on the file name and GnuCash fires up with it opened and read to go. Or, I can click on the Icon for GnuCash frozen to the left panel and get whichever one I worked on last. Usually that isn't the one I want! Hope this helps. --Steve -- Stephen M Butler, PMP, PSM stephen.m.butle...@gmail.com kg...@arrl.net 253-350-0166 --- GnuPG Fingerprint: 8A25 9726 D439 758D D846 E5D4 282A 5477 0385 81D8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash
Richard, Some versions of GnuCash are not able to find GnuCash data files that are in network servers or USB removable drives. There is a bug report about that. However, If your file manager program is able to mount and view the directory containing the data file, you can either double click the file icon directly and GnuCash will open that file or just start GnuCash from the program icon and it will open that file if it was the last file used. David C On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > First, please reply to the list so others can benefit from the > conversation. > > Absolutely you can save your file in a new location. > > Where would you like to save it? Somewhere in your Home folder tree is > what I’d think most people use. > > Does it need to be on a removable drive or can it be stored on the > internal HD/SSD? What was the reason for using the removable drive in the > first place? > > p.s—I’m going to be away from my computer till this evening, but someone > else might chime in before me based on your answers. > > Regards, > Adrien > > > On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Dick Barmann > wrote: > > > > How can I close "save as" to set a new location that will not have a > long name and cannot not be found. My existing files are deep in the > program and I keep getting that file cannot be found. Can I create a folder > that can be found and close with it. I am using Linux. > > > > Richard Barmann > > > > > > On 07/31/2018 02:33 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> Richard, > >> > >> Just open the app from the app launcher icon, not the file. It will > re-open the last used file automatically. > >> > >> What OS are you using? > >> > >> On Windows this would be from Start > Programs > Gnucash > >> On Linux you’d use your menu or Applications screen and click the > GnuCash icon > >> On Mac, you’d click the GnuCash icon from either Launchpad or the > Applications folder > >> > >> All three systems provide a quick-launch or dock area where you might > have placed the icon, and most allow you to have a launcher icon on your > desktop. These both depend on how you installed the app and if you placed > launchers there. > >> > >> Just for info, the data file ends in .gnucash, the log files in .log. > You can safely delete any log file but perhaps the most recent. (part of > the file name for each is a date and time before the .log extension) you > can also use a detail or list view in your file browser to see file > modification/creation dates/times and sort accordingly if you ever need. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Adrien > >> > >>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Richard Barmann > wrote: > >>> > >>> When I want to reopen Gnucash the next day I have to scroll through the > >>> files to try to pick out the latest file. T trid closing with the Quit > >>> at the bottom of the page and also tried to Save as but they always > have > >>> to scroll through to open the latest file. Some of the files names are > >>> so long that I cannot tell if they are log fills. and I have to guess > >>> until I find the last one. > >>> > >>> Thank you for any help as this is a time killer when I am in a hurry. > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> gnucash-user mailing list > >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >>> - > >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >> - > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information.
Re: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash
First, please reply to the list so others can benefit from the conversation. Absolutely you can save your file in a new location. Where would you like to save it? Somewhere in your Home folder tree is what I’d think most people use. Does it need to be on a removable drive or can it be stored on the internal HD/SSD? What was the reason for using the removable drive in the first place? p.s—I’m going to be away from my computer till this evening, but someone else might chime in before me based on your answers. Regards, Adrien > On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Dick Barmann wrote: > > How can I close "save as" to set a new location that will not have a long > name and cannot not be found. My existing files are deep in the program and I > keep getting that file cannot be found. Can I create a folder that can be > found and close with it. I am using Linux. > > Richard Barmann > > > On 07/31/2018 02:33 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> Richard, >> >> Just open the app from the app launcher icon, not the file. It will re-open >> the last used file automatically. >> >> What OS are you using? >> >> On Windows this would be from Start > Programs > Gnucash >> On Linux you’d use your menu or Applications screen and click the GnuCash >> icon >> On Mac, you’d click the GnuCash icon from either Launchpad or the >> Applications folder >> >> All three systems provide a quick-launch or dock area where you might have >> placed the icon, and most allow you to have a launcher icon on your desktop. >> These both depend on how you installed the app and if you placed launchers >> there. >> >> Just for info, the data file ends in .gnucash, the log files in .log. You >> can safely delete any log file but perhaps the most recent. (part of the >> file name for each is a date and time before the .log extension) you can >> also use a detail or list view in your file browser to see file >> modification/creation dates/times and sort accordingly if you ever need. >> >> Regards, >> Adrien >> >>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Richard Barmann >>> wrote: >>> >>> When I want to reopen Gnucash the next day I have to scroll through the >>> files to try to pick out the latest file. T trid closing with the Quit >>> at the bottom of the page and also tried to Save as but they always have >>> to scroll through to open the latest file. Some of the files names are >>> so long that I cannot tell if they are log fills. and I have to guess >>> until I find the last one. >>> >>> Thank you for any help as this is a time killer when I am in a hurry. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >>> - >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>> >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash
Yep. You kept opening a backup file, which concatenated a new backup file name, and so on and so on. (see how long that file name is with all the coded dates?) It also looks like you were working on some external drive because /media/user/xxx is usually where *buntus mount a transient external, likely a USB thumb drive or some type of flash card. The problem might be if you repeatedly remove the external drive. Each time you plug it back in, it might get assigned a new URI. (that long part in the file path, which really should be a UUID that is fixed to the drive, but perhaps it’s random, I’d have to refresh my memory of the *buntu specs on mounting USB) Thus if random, each time you plug it in, GnuCash won’t be able to find the file - the path will be different. If this is a randomly assigned path instead of a fixed UUID, you can set a UDEV rule to mount it to a persistent location when it’s plugged in. There are plenty of articles on UDEV rules on ubuntuforums.org and elsewhere on the web. There might also be an option to set a rule in /etc/fstab, but I never used that route for anything but permanently/network attached external storage. So I’m not sure how it works with transient drives. Note, you should never have to select a file when opening Gnucash. It should just open the last used file automatically. (if it can find it, which it seems it hasn’t been able to for the above reasons) Regards, Adrien > On Aug 1, 2018, at 2:27 PM, Dick Barmann wrote: > > I am using Linux. Kubuntu 18.04. I went to the launcher and opened Office and > the Gnucash and the opening window brings up the opening window and the file > says. > > The file/URI > /media/user/b838be26-9cd0-43b2-8743-94a6b55f90a3/home/user/Striping/BusinessGnuCash/2016/2017/2018/May22.gnucash.20180524171054.gnucash.20180612210659.gnucash.20180617225245.gnucash.20180624105820.gnucash.20180625161704.gnucash.20180717145701.gnucash.20180717220322.gnucash.20180718172031.gnucash.20180726182003.gnucash > could not be found. > > I evidently am saving the files in the wrong place. Richard > > > On 07/31/2018 02:33 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> Richard, >> >> Just open the app from the app launcher icon, not the file. It will re-open >> the last used file automatically. >> >> What OS are you using? >> >> On Windows this would be from Start > Programs > Gnucash >> On Linux you’d use your menu or Applications screen and click the GnuCash >> icon >> On Mac, you’d click the GnuCash icon from either Launchpad or the >> Applications folder >> >> All three systems provide a quick-launch or dock area where you might have >> placed the icon, and most allow you to have a launcher icon on your desktop. >> These both depend on how you installed the app and if you placed launchers >> there. >> >> Just for info, the data file ends in .gnucash, the log files in .log. You >> can safely delete any log file but perhaps the most recent. (part of the >> file name for each is a date and time before the .log extension) you can >> also use a detail or list view in your file browser to see file >> modification/creation dates/times and sort accordingly if you ever need. >> >> Regards, >> Adrien >> >>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Richard Barmann >>> wrote: >>> >>> When I want to reopen Gnucash the next day I have to scroll through the >>> files to try to pick out the latest file. T trid closing with the Quit >>> at the bottom of the page and also tried to Save as but they always have >>> to scroll through to open the latest file. Some of the files names are >>> so long that I cannot tell if they are log fills. and I have to guess >>> until I find the last one. >>> >>> Thank you for any help as this is a time killer when I am in a hurry. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >>> - >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>> >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or
Re: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash
Richard, It sounds as though you may be opening the latest backup file instead of your main data file. The data file should be named something like RichardsData.gnucash (or whatever you named it). The backup filenames will contain strings of numbers, which are date stamps indicating when they were saved, something like RichardsData.gnucash.20180731154137.gnucash. If that is what you have been doing, then probably your original data file does not have all of your data, because you have been saving new data into your backup files. I suggest the following: - open your last-opened file (as Adrien says, you can do that just by launching the GnuCash application) - use the menu options File -> Save As to save the file under the original data filename - in future, open the file with that original filename.gnucash only, unless you know that you need to do something with a backup file for some reason. You can do this by launching GnuCash, which will open the last-opened data file automatically. - to reduce confusion, you may want to delete some of your old backup files, and maybe limit the number of days that they are saved, if you haven't already done that. Hope that helps. Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 19:53:49 -0400 From: Richard Barmann To:gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash Message-ID:<0f4bf8dd-249c-75e6-84b2-9f201dc16...@stripingthetown.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 When I want to reopen Gnucash the next day I have to scroll through the files to try to pick out the latest file. T trid closing with the Quit at the bottom of the page and also tried to Save as but they always have to scroll through to open the latest file. Some of the files names are so long that I cannot tell if they are log fills. and I have to guess until I find the last one. Thank you for any help as this is a time killer when I am in a hurry. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash
Richard, Just open the app from the app launcher icon, not the file. It will re-open the last used file automatically. What OS are you using? On Windows this would be from Start > Programs > Gnucash On Linux you’d use your menu or Applications screen and click the GnuCash icon On Mac, you’d click the GnuCash icon from either Launchpad or the Applications folder All three systems provide a quick-launch or dock area where you might have placed the icon, and most allow you to have a launcher icon on your desktop. These both depend on how you installed the app and if you placed launchers there. Just for info, the data file ends in .gnucash, the log files in .log. You can safely delete any log file but perhaps the most recent. (part of the file name for each is a date and time before the .log extension) you can also use a detail or list view in your file browser to see file modification/creation dates/times and sort accordingly if you ever need. Regards, Adrien > On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > > When I want to reopen Gnucash the next day I have to scroll through the > files to try to pick out the latest file. T trid closing with the Quit > at the bottom of the page and also tried to Save as but they always have > to scroll through to open the latest file. Some of the files names are > so long that I cannot tell if they are log fills. and I have to guess > until I find the last one. > > Thank you for any help as this is a time killer when I am in a hurry. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Closing and reopening Gnucash
In my experience, Gnucash always opens the last file I had open. How are you calling Gnucash such that it doesn't open the last file? David P.s. What version, what OS? On June 3, 2018, at 2:19 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: When I boot up and want to go to Gnucash I have to hunt through the files to find the newest file. The files in the bottom when I click on open do not work. I believe I am closing the program wrong. It goes to BusinessGnucash but that is log files as well as the Gnucash file. Can I delete the old Log Files Richard E. Barmann ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
