Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement

2020-12-30 Thread Stephen M. Butler

I also just reconfigured my internal wireless network to use a mesh system.

Suffice to say, your email reached me anyway.  So, I guess the changes 
on both ends worked.


On 12/30/20 1:39 PM, John Ralls wrote:

Following up, Derek reconfigured his network so that code.gnucash.org supports 
IPv6. This is a first test to see if that changes the way my mail gets routed. 
If it goes through I'll try resending the 4.4 announcement with the copies.

Regards,
John Ralls


On Dec 30, 2020, at 8:41 AM, John Ralls  wrote:




On Dec 30, 2020, at 6:24 AM, D. via gnucash-user  
wrote:

Thanks, but the point is that the Gnucash project's standard practice-- that 
is, to post release announcements on the user and devel lists-- did not occur 
in this instance.

@Frank: I didn't notice that your link was to a message in gnucash-announce. I 
don't know what the information flow typically is, but would assume that there 
is some script that repackages the announcement message and sends it along to 
the other lists as appropriate. Clearly, that didn't happen with these 
messages. I'd hazard a guess that most users only subscribe to the users list, 
and won't know about the new release otherwise.

David,

Nothing that fancy. I write the release notes for the website using the git log and 
a previous release notes, copy & paste it from a browser window into a blank 
email, address the email to gnucash-announce cc gnucash-devel and gnucash-user with 
reply to gnucash-user, and send it.

That usually works fine, but this time it went into the bit-bucket somewhere 
between my ISP's smtp server (which my logs show acknowledging receiving it) 
and Derek's. No bounce or error messages, just poof. Same with 3 resends on the 
4.3 announcement and one on the 4.4, so I sent the referral email to 
gnucash-user that begins this thread. On a whim I tried resending without the 
cc's and that went through, though only users who're subscribed to 
gnucash-announce will have gotten them. That's what Frank linked to.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement

2020-12-30 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Well, thanks for the explanation. It sounds like a bit of a chore, so thanks to 
you (and all the other members of the dev team) for the ongoing commitment to 
this package. I am truly grateful for your efforts -- even if it doesn't always 
sound that way! 

Happy new year! 

David T. 


 Original Message 
From: John Ralls 
Sent: Wed Dec 30 11:41:42 EST 2020
To: "D." 
Cc: Greg Feneis , GnuCash-User 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement



> On Dec 30, 2020, at 6:24 AM, D. via gnucash-user  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, but the point is that the Gnucash project's standard practice-- that 
> is, to post release announcements on the user and devel lists-- did not occur 
> in this instance. 
> 
> @Frank: I didn't notice that your link was to a message in gnucash-announce. 
> I don't know what the information flow typically is, but would assume that 
> there is some script that repackages the announcement message and sends it 
> along to the other lists as appropriate. Clearly, that didn't happen with 
> these messages. I'd hazard a guess that most users only subscribe to the 
> users list, and won't know about the new release otherwise. 

David,

Nothing that fancy. I write the release notes for the website using the git log 
and a previous release notes, copy & paste it from a browser window into a 
blank email, address the email to gnucash-announce cc gnucash-devel and 
gnucash-user with reply to gnucash-user, and send it. 

That usually works fine, but this time it went into the bit-bucket somewhere 
between my ISP's smtp server (which my logs show acknowledging receiving it) 
and Derek's. No bounce or error messages, just poof. Same with 3 resends on the 
4.3 announcement and one on the 4.4, so I sent the referral email to 
gnucash-user that begins this thread. On a whim I tried resending without the 
cc's and that went through, though only users who're subscribed to 
gnucash-announce will have gotten them. That's what Frank linked to.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement

2020-12-30 Thread John Ralls
Following up, Derek reconfigured his network so that code.gnucash.org supports 
IPv6. This is a first test to see if that changes the way my mail gets routed. 
If it goes through I'll try resending the 4.4 announcement with the copies.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Dec 30, 2020, at 8:41 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2020, at 6:24 AM, D. via gnucash-user  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, but the point is that the Gnucash project's standard practice-- that 
>> is, to post release announcements on the user and devel lists-- did not 
>> occur in this instance. 
>> 
>> @Frank: I didn't notice that your link was to a message in gnucash-announce. 
>> I don't know what the information flow typically is, but would assume that 
>> there is some script that repackages the announcement message and sends it 
>> along to the other lists as appropriate. Clearly, that didn't happen with 
>> these messages. I'd hazard a guess that most users only subscribe to the 
>> users list, and won't know about the new release otherwise. 
> 
> David,
> 
> Nothing that fancy. I write the release notes for the website using the git 
> log and a previous release notes, copy & paste it from a browser window into 
> a blank email, address the email to gnucash-announce cc gnucash-devel and 
> gnucash-user with reply to gnucash-user, and send it. 
> 
> That usually works fine, but this time it went into the bit-bucket somewhere 
> between my ISP's smtp server (which my logs show acknowledging receiving it) 
> and Derek's. No bounce or error messages, just poof. Same with 3 resends on 
> the 4.3 announcement and one on the 4.4, so I sent the referral email to 
> gnucash-user that begins this thread. On a whim I tried resending without the 
> cc's and that went through, though only users who're subscribed to 
> gnucash-announce will have gotten them. That's what Frank linked to.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement

2020-12-30 Thread John Ralls



> On Dec 30, 2020, at 6:24 AM, D. via gnucash-user  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, but the point is that the Gnucash project's standard practice-- that 
> is, to post release announcements on the user and devel lists-- did not occur 
> in this instance. 
> 
> @Frank: I didn't notice that your link was to a message in gnucash-announce. 
> I don't know what the information flow typically is, but would assume that 
> there is some script that repackages the announcement message and sends it 
> along to the other lists as appropriate. Clearly, that didn't happen with 
> these messages. I'd hazard a guess that most users only subscribe to the 
> users list, and won't know about the new release otherwise. 

David,

Nothing that fancy. I write the release notes for the website using the git log 
and a previous release notes, copy & paste it from a browser window into a 
blank email, address the email to gnucash-announce cc gnucash-devel and 
gnucash-user with reply to gnucash-user, and send it. 

That usually works fine, but this time it went into the bit-bucket somewhere 
between my ISP's smtp server (which my logs show acknowledging receiving it) 
and Derek's. No bounce or error messages, just poof. Same with 3 resends on the 
4.3 announcement and one on the 4.4, so I sent the referral email to 
gnucash-user that begins this thread. On a whim I tried resending without the 
cc's and that went through, though only users who're subscribed to 
gnucash-announce will have gotten them. That's what Frank linked to.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement

2020-12-30 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Thanks, but the point is that the Gnucash project's standard practice-- that 
is, to post release announcements on the user and devel lists-- did not occur 
in this instance. 

@Frank: I didn't notice that your link was to a message in gnucash-announce. I 
don't know what the information flow typically is, but would assume that there 
is some script that repackages the announcement message and sends it along to 
the other lists as appropriate. Clearly, that didn't happen with these 
messages. I'd hazard a guess that most users only subscribe to the users list, 
and won't know about the new release otherwise. 

David


 Original Message 
From: Greg Feneis 
Sent: Tue Dec 29 18:24:41 EST 2020
To: GnuCash-User 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement

I think the GnuCash project is managed or stored SourceForge.  I've somehow
noodled around on SF and now when there's a release, I get a SF release
notification email, FWIW




Kind regards,

Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>




On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 8:54 PM D. via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Frank,
>
> I didn't receive either boilerplate announcement in my inboxes, either-- a
> point that John acknowledged directly. Something clearly went awry with the
> mail in these cases.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
> Sent: Mon Dec 28 21:04:06 EST 2020
> To: py...@cox.net, 'John Ralls' , 'GnuCash-User' <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement
>
> Hello Ken,
>
> Am 29.12.20 um 02:54 schrieb py...@cox.net:
> > John - Thank you for the announcement - FYI -  Received this e-mail - but
> > did not receive the regular nor the 4.3 announcement.
> >
> > Ken
>
> it is here:
>
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-announce/2020-December/000333.html
>
> All in reverse chronological order:
> https://www.gnucash.org/news.phtml
>
>
> ~Frank
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement

2020-12-29 Thread Greg Feneis
I think the GnuCash project is managed or stored SourceForge.  I've somehow
noodled around on SF and now when there's a release, I get a SF release
notification email, FWIW




Kind regards,

Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>




On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 8:54 PM D. via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Frank,
>
> I didn't receive either boilerplate announcement in my inboxes, either-- a
> point that John acknowledged directly. Something clearly went awry with the
> mail in these cases.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
> Sent: Mon Dec 28 21:04:06 EST 2020
> To: py...@cox.net, 'John Ralls' , 'GnuCash-User' <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement
>
> Hello Ken,
>
> Am 29.12.20 um 02:54 schrieb py...@cox.net:
> > John - Thank you for the announcement - FYI -  Received this e-mail - but
> > did not receive the regular nor the 4.3 announcement.
> >
> > Ken
>
> it is here:
>
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-announce/2020-December/000333.html
>
> All in reverse chronological order:
> https://www.gnucash.org/news.phtml
>
>
> ~Frank
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement

2020-12-28 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Frank, 

I didn't receive either boilerplate announcement in my inboxes, either-- a 
point that John acknowledged directly. Something clearly went awry with the 
mail in these cases. 


 Original Message 
From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
Sent: Mon Dec 28 21:04:06 EST 2020
To: py...@cox.net, 'John Ralls' , 'GnuCash-User' 

Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement

Hello Ken,

Am 29.12.20 um 02:54 schrieb py...@cox.net:
> John - Thank you for the announcement - FYI -  Received this e-mail - but
> did not receive the regular nor the 4.3 announcement.  
> 
> Ken 

it is here:
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-announce/2020-December/000333.html

All in reverse chronological order:
https://www.gnucash.org/news.phtml


~Frank
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement

2020-12-28 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Hello Ken,

Am 29.12.20 um 02:54 schrieb py...@cox.net:
> John - Thank you for the announcement - FYI -  Received this e-mail - but
> did not receive the regular nor the 4.3 announcement.  
> 
> Ken 

it is here:
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-announce/2020-December/000333.html

All in reverse chronological order:
https://www.gnucash.org/news.phtml


~Frank
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