Re: [GNC] Is GnuCash the right application for me?
Den 2018-10-14 kl. 11:21, skrev jeffrey black: On 10/12/2018 10:21 PM, Leslie Jensen wrote: Hi Thanks for your valuable input. I'll go ahead and give it a try. :-) Les Den 2018-10-12 kl. 22:31, skrev Jeff Abrahamson: Ditto here, I run a sports club and two other clubs with gnucash. It's perfect for our needs. I also don't bother with the business features, just a/r accounts and manually issue bills and such. That may or may not be the right choice, someday I should look at those functions further. Jeff Abrahamson +33 6 24 40 01 57 +44 7920 594 255 https://www.p27.eu/jeff/ https://www.transport-nantes.com/ On 12/10/18 12:56, Colin Law wrote: On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 11:44, Leslie Jensen wrote: Hi I'm the treasurer of three sports clubs. They all have the same setup. Most of the income is membership fees and we pay Invoices for equipment and other costs. We have no tax or billing needs. The account plan for each club is almost the same. So a very simple setup. Can I run all three clubs as individual "companies" in GnuCash? And is GnuCash the right application to do this? I run the accounts for a couple of clubs with similar needs. Setup one accounts file for each club so they are kept separate. I have not bothered with the complexities of the business features (invoices etc) as I have not found them necessary. As to whether it is the right application for you I can only say that it meets all my needs (and handles my personal accounts too, in anther accounts file of course) and is very good value for money. Colin I'm aware of the tutorial page and I see a lot of stock oriented subjects so I thought that maybe I'm in over my head? Thanks Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. There is a catch 22 here. Do YOU contribute, are a member of, and intend to be the treasurer of all of the organizations for all time? GnuCash is flexible enough that you can carry all of the organizations in one file. It only requires only a top level account for each organization. I am currently carrying accounts for 4 separate businesses in one file, because I set up top level accounts for each entity. And now I am adding a 5th company. Technically they should be all separate but; I contribute to all 5, and I am "required" to be a partner in each as long as each entity exits. Plus, I am the only one competently capable of preparing financial reports. Here is where the catch 22 hits. You may not be the treasurer for one of the entities at a future date. In your case, I would consider setting up a separate set of books (separate files) for each organization. You can initially set them up identically but; each will evolve separately. And at the end of your tenure, the books of each individual organization, and only those books can be passed to the next treasurer for that organization. --JEffrey Black M.B.A. That's a very good suggestion, thank you. Today I'm working just like that in a commercial software so I understand the setup. /Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Is GnuCash the right application for me?
On 10/12/2018 10:21 PM, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > Hi > > Thanks for your valuable input. I'll go ahead and give it a try. > > :-) > > Les > > > Den 2018-10-12 kl. 22:31, skrev Jeff Abrahamson: >> Ditto here, I run a sports club and two other clubs with gnucash. It's >> perfect for our needs. >> >> I also don't bother with the business features, just a/r accounts and >> manually issue bills and such. That may or may not be the right choice, >> someday I should look at those functions further. >> >> Jeff Abrahamson >> +33 6 24 40 01 57 >> +44 7920 594 255 >> https://www.p27.eu/jeff/ >> https://www.transport-nantes.com/ >> >> >> On 12/10/18 12:56, Colin Law wrote: >>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 11:44, Leslie Jensen >>> wrote: Hi I'm the treasurer of three sports clubs. They all have the same setup. Most of the income is membership fees and we pay Invoices for equipment and other costs. We have no tax or billing needs. The account plan for each club is almost the same. So a very simple setup. Can I run all three clubs as individual "companies" in GnuCash? And is GnuCash the right application to do this? >>> I run the accounts for a couple of clubs with similar needs. Setup >>> one accounts file for each club so they are kept separate. I have not >>> bothered with the complexities of the business features (invoices etc) >>> as I have not found them necessary. >>> >>> As to whether it is the right application for you I can only say that >>> it meets all my needs (and handles my personal accounts too, in anther >>> accounts file of course) and is very good value for money. >>> >>> Colin >>> I'm aware of the tutorial page and I see a lot of stock oriented subjects so I thought that maybe I'm in over my head? Thanks Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >>> - >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. There is a catch 22 here. Do YOU contribute, are a member of, and intend to be the treasurer of all of the organizations for all time? GnuCash is flexible enough that you can carry all of the organizations in one file. It only requires only a top level account for each organization. I am currently carrying accounts for 4 separate businesses in one file, because I set up top level accounts for each entity. And now I am adding a 5th company. Technically they should be all separate but; I contribute to all 5, and I am "required" to be a partner in each as long as each entity exits. Plus, I am the only one competently capable of preparing financial reports. Here is where the catch 22 hits. You may not be the treasurer for one of the entities at a future date. In your case, I would consider setting up a separate set of books (separate files) for each organization. You can initially set them up identically but; each will evolve separately. And at the end of your tenure, the books of each individual organization, and only those books can be passed to the next treasurer for that organization. --JEffrey Black M.B.A. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Is GnuCash the right application for me?
Hi Thanks for your valuable input. I'll go ahead and give it a try. :-) Les Den 2018-10-12 kl. 22:31, skrev Jeff Abrahamson: Ditto here, I run a sports club and two other clubs with gnucash. It's perfect for our needs. I also don't bother with the business features, just a/r accounts and manually issue bills and such. That may or may not be the right choice, someday I should look at those functions further. Jeff Abrahamson +33 6 24 40 01 57 +44 7920 594 255 https://www.p27.eu/jeff/ https://www.transport-nantes.com/ On 12/10/18 12:56, Colin Law wrote: On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 11:44, Leslie Jensen wrote: Hi I'm the treasurer of three sports clubs. They all have the same setup. Most of the income is membership fees and we pay Invoices for equipment and other costs. We have no tax or billing needs. The account plan for each club is almost the same. So a very simple setup. Can I run all three clubs as individual "companies" in GnuCash? And is GnuCash the right application to do this? I run the accounts for a couple of clubs with similar needs. Setup one accounts file for each club so they are kept separate. I have not bothered with the complexities of the business features (invoices etc) as I have not found them necessary. As to whether it is the right application for you I can only say that it meets all my needs (and handles my personal accounts too, in anther accounts file of course) and is very good value for money. Colin I'm aware of the tutorial page and I see a lot of stock oriented subjects so I thought that maybe I'm in over my head? Thanks Les ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Is GnuCash the right application for me?
Ditto here, I run a sports club and two other clubs with gnucash. It's perfect for our needs. I also don't bother with the business features, just a/r accounts and manually issue bills and such. That may or may not be the right choice, someday I should look at those functions further. Jeff Abrahamson +33 6 24 40 01 57 +44 7920 594 255 https://www.p27.eu/jeff/ https://www.transport-nantes.com/ On 12/10/18 12:56, Colin Law wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 11:44, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> Hi >> >> I'm the treasurer of three sports clubs. They all have the same setup. >> Most of the income is membership fees and we pay Invoices for >> equipment and other costs. We have no tax or billing needs. The >> account plan for each club is almost the same. So a very simple setup. >> >> Can I run all three clubs as individual "companies" in GnuCash? And is >> GnuCash the right application to do this? > I run the accounts for a couple of clubs with similar needs. Setup > one accounts file for each club so they are kept separate. I have not > bothered with the complexities of the business features (invoices etc) > as I have not found them necessary. > > As to whether it is the right application for you I can only say that > it meets all my needs (and handles my personal accounts too, in anther > accounts file of course) and is very good value for money. > > Colin > >> I'm aware of the tutorial page and I see a lot of stock oriented >> subjects so I thought that maybe I'm in over my head? >> >> Thanks >> >> Les >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Jeff Abrahamson +33 6 24 40 01 57 +44 7920 594 255 https://www.p27.eu/jeff/ https://www.transport-nantes.com/ ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Is GnuCash the right application for me?
I run the accounts for a couple of clubs with similar needs. Setup one accounts file for each club so they are kept separate. I have not bothered with the complexities of the business features (invoices etc) as I have not found them necessary. I am a person who is treasurer for organizations and gnucash is certainly suitable. One issue though. It is unfortunate that that the "invoice" system is limited to "business features" and the assumption that accounting will be on the accrual basis (and that invoiced amounts are "receivables" << the members of many organizations want to receive invoices for membership fees, etc. >> HOWEVER -- this cannot be considered a fault of gnucash since many of the commercial alternatives share that same defect << even when the product is being sold as "the non-profit version" >> The general case situation for non-profits is that they need invoicing capability for BOTH "receivables" (say billing for services provided) and "non-receivables" (like membership dues -- there is NO legal obligation to continue paying those). To make things even worse, members may be making "pledges" which ARE receivables but only under conditions of the pledge AND members usually want those shown on a "unified statement". The sad truth is that the "small non-profit" market probably isn't large enough to support the creation of accounting systems so specialized. So we get by with work arounds. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Is GnuCash the right application for me?
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 11:44, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > Hi > > I'm the treasurer of three sports clubs. They all have the same setup. > Most of the income is membership fees and we pay Invoices for > equipment and other costs. We have no tax or billing needs. The > account plan for each club is almost the same. So a very simple setup. > > Can I run all three clubs as individual "companies" in GnuCash? And is > GnuCash the right application to do this? I run the accounts for a couple of clubs with similar needs. Setup one accounts file for each club so they are kept separate. I have not bothered with the complexities of the business features (invoices etc) as I have not found them necessary. As to whether it is the right application for you I can only say that it meets all my needs (and handles my personal accounts too, in anther accounts file of course) and is very good value for money. Colin > > I'm aware of the tutorial page and I see a lot of stock oriented > subjects so I thought that maybe I'm in over my head? > > Thanks > > Les > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
