Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions details

2021-11-16 Thread Kalpesh Patel
Oh, that is good to hear. Appreciate that tip, Tommy.

 

With that I can make it fit into my needs for sure, for a scheduled transaction.

 

As for amortized loans, it is indeed difficult to use in GNC as there is not a 
clean way to have it recalculate based on the fact that you may have made 
additional principal payments now and then but the next payment does not 
recalculate up correctly. If there is a way to do so then I simply haven’t 
gotten to know the specific mechanics at this time and that education is 
definitely welcome. I know Quicken was very good at loans but I have moved away 
from it for good so that is one sure thing I miss from there …

 

PS: No need to worry about late responses … it is always  better to get it in 
then never …

 

From: Tommy Trussell  
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 10:51 PM
To: Kalpesh Patel 
Cc: David Carlson ; Gnucash Users 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions details

 

 

On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 2:34 PM Kalpesh Patel mailto:kalpesh.pa...@usa.net> > wrote:

David,

Thank you for that primer appreciate it.

Boy was I under huge mis-understanding behind their intent for sure. My 
understanding of “value” was more aligned with like value of the transaction at 
hand for me, for example like $90 for the monthly train pass as a scheduled 
transaction.

Since I deal only with US Dollars currency, should that be just a value of 1? I 
reckon that I won’t have any transactions that creates imbalance.

 

I know I'm way late responding here (behind on my email) but I'd like to say 
your understanding of value is exactly correct. I don't doubt you can use it as 
explained (for currency conversion) but you can also use it as a placeholder 
that fills in and/or calculates the result in a scheduled transaction. Just 
type a "single word" string in the numeric part of a scheduled transaction and 
the Since Last Run dialog will prompt you for the value of that single word 
used as a variable.

 

For example, if you put the word Pass in both the debit and credit fields 
instead of a numeric value, the dialog will put "Pass" on the dialog and prompt 
you for the amount to fill in.

 

You can also enter a more complicated transaction with (one or more?) variable 
and numeric actions, such as Pass*1.09 (to automatically add nine percent to 
any amount you type).

 

You will quickly run into some limitations -- for example it would be really 
keen if you could automatically calculate the splits on amortized loans, but 
the needed functions just don't exist in the Scheduled Transaction parser. Back 
when I had a mortgage in my scheduled transactions, I just had it insert a 
realistic split every month for the principal, escrow, etc. then go back and 
fix the amounts to the penny every quarter to correspond with the bank's 
statement. 

 

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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions details

2021-11-15 Thread Tommy Trussell
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 2:34 PM Kalpesh Patel  wrote:

> David,
>
> Thank you for that primer appreciate it.
>
> Boy was I under huge mis-understanding behind their intent for sure. My
> understanding of “value” was more aligned with like value of the
> transaction at hand for me, for example like $90 for the monthly train pass
> as a scheduled transaction.
>
> Since I deal only with US Dollars currency, should that be just a value of
> 1? I reckon that I won’t have any transactions that creates imbalance.
>
>
I know I'm way late responding here (behind on my email) but I'd like to
say your understanding of value is exactly correct. I don't doubt you can
use it as explained (for currency conversion) but you can also use it as a
placeholder that fills in and/or calculates the result in a scheduled
transaction. Just type a "single word" string in the numeric part of a
scheduled transaction and the Since Last Run dialog will prompt you for the
value of that single word used as a variable.

For example, if you put the word Pass in both the debit and credit fields
instead of a numeric value, the dialog will put "Pass" on the dialog and
prompt you for the amount to fill in.

You can also enter a more complicated transaction with (one or more?)
variable and numeric actions, such as Pass*1.09 (to automatically add nine
percent to any amount you type).

You will quickly run into some limitations -- for example it would be
really keen if you could automatically calculate the splits on amortized
loans, but the needed functions just don't exist in the Scheduled
Transaction parser. Back when I had a mortgage in my scheduled
transactions, I just had it insert a realistic split every month for the
principal, escrow, etc. then go back and fix the amounts to the penny every
quarter to correspond with the bank's statement.


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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions details

2021-11-04 Thread Kalpesh Patel
David,

 

Thank you for that primer appreciate it.

 

Boy was I under huge mis-understanding behind their intent for sure. My 
understanding of “value” was more aligned with like value of the transaction at 
hand for me, for example like $90 for the monthly train pass as a scheduled 
transaction.

 

Since I deal only with US Dollars currency, should that be just a value of 1? I 
reckon that I won’t have any transactions that creates imbalance.

 

From: David Carlson  
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2021 12:43 PM
To: Kalpesh Patel 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions details

 

I'll take a stab at answering these questions.

 

1 the value column comes into play when there are accounts valued in more than 
one currency or security and there is an exchange involved.   The most common 
case is an investment transaction.   The Since Last Run   needs manual input 
to assign an exchange valuation to the transaction. 

 

2 All transactions must be balanced with equal debits and credits.  The 
Scheduled Transaction Editor cannot test amounts defined with variables for 
balance.   The Since Last Run   can force the user to assign an exchange rate 
where needed, but for cases where there is still an imbalance in a single 
currency GnuCash will automatically assign it to an imbalance account in the 
specific currency. 

 

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 9:02 AM Kalpesh Patel mailto:kalpesh.pa...@usa.net> > wrote:

Hi Everyone –



Two questions –



1 - I noticed that the “Value” column next to “Status” in the “Since Last
Run …” window that pops-up when GNC is launched or manually run from
‘Actions” à ‘Scheduled Transaction’ à ‘Since Last Run…’ is blank. I know I
have some scheduled ones that have fixed amount so I was wondering where
that setting is configured to show the value of that transaction. All of my
scheduled transactions are set as reminder in advance and create in advance
if that is in play somehow.



2 – In scheduled transaction editor, is there a column that shows the amount
of the transaction, whether fixed amount or the formula? I think not given
that it could be a split transaction that would be difficult to represent in
a condensed format. I checked the column selector drop down and I don’t see
one so not likely but I figure I ask in case it is there and can be made to
seeable.



I am running GNC 4.8 on Windows 10.



Thanks.

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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions details

2021-11-02 Thread David Carlson
I'll take a stab at answering these questions.

1 the value column comes into play when there are accounts valued in more
than one currency or security and there is an exchange involved.   The most
common case is an investment transaction.   The Since Last Run   needs
manual input to assign an exchange valuation to the transaction.

2 All transactions must be balanced with equal debits and credits.  The
Scheduled Transaction Editor cannot test amounts defined with variables for
balance.   The Since Last Run   can force the user to assign an exchange
rate where needed, but for cases where there is still an imbalance in a
single currency GnuCash will automatically assign it to an imbalance
account in the specific currency.


On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 9:02 AM Kalpesh Patel  wrote:

> Hi Everyone –
>
>
>
> Two questions –
>
>
>
> 1 - I noticed that the “Value” column next to “Status” in the “Since Last
> Run …” window that pops-up when GNC is launched or manually run from
> ‘Actions” à ‘Scheduled Transaction’ à ‘Since Last Run…’ is blank. I know I
> have some scheduled ones that have fixed amount so I was wondering where
> that setting is configured to show the value of that transaction. All of my
> scheduled transactions are set as reminder in advance and create in advance
> if that is in play somehow.
>
>
>
> 2 – In scheduled transaction editor, is there a column that shows the
> amount
> of the transaction, whether fixed amount or the formula? I think not given
> that it could be a split transaction that would be difficult to represent
> in
> a condensed format. I checked the column selector drop down and I don’t see
> one so not likely but I figure I ask in case it is there and can be made to
> seeable.
>
>
>
> I am running GNC 4.8 on Windows 10.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
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