Re: [GNC] Yahoo blocking GnuCash Email
On 9/24/19 8:57 AM, Stan Brown wrote: > And of course Usenet newsgroups are a way around all of these > difficulties. They also provide MUCH better thread tracking than any > email client I've seen. I don't know why Usenet was allowed to either on > the vine. > Several reasons: My ISP was, and sort-of still is, my ISP. Originally, they provided Usenet access. Then, "for better service" they cut out all but the "big five" news groups, but they did not lower their rates. Later, they cut out Usenet altogether. Still, they did not lower the rates. So I had to get Usenet at extra cost from an independent source. On the newsgroups on which I participated, more and more trolls and spammers showed up with no knowledge of good manners and politeness. They did not even know enough to refrain from top posting. Most of them had no Usenet client, no e-mail client. They did everything using a web browser. And it showed. So its use has pretty much ended. Most of what I used to do on Usenet I now do in e-mail mailing lists. And the younger people I know do not even use e-mail at all; they use Facebook messages. And I am told by the younger friends that even that is old hat and they use something else on their 'cell 'phones. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey ^^-^^ 14:15:01 up 19:49, 2 users, load average: 4.60, 4.61, 4.46 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Yahoo blocking GnuCash Email
And of course Usenet newsgroups are a way around all of these difficulties. They also provide MUCH better thread tracking than any email client I've seen. I don't know why Usenet was allowed to either on the vine. -- Regards, Stan Brown Tompkins County, New York, USA https://BrownMath.com http://OakRoadSystems.com On 2019-09-23 21:35, D via gnucash-user wrote: > Maybe not, but Adrien hypothesized that users may report Gnucash mail as spam > because they ask us to unsubscribe, when they are subscribed to nabble. I was > responding to that, prematurely. > > David > > On September 23, 2019, at 10:13 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: > > HI, > > D via gnucash-user writes: > >> Perhaps it's time to look into ways to decouple our mailing list more >> fully from nabble (which is where the biggest misunderstandings seem >> to originate with regards to list subscriptions). Gnucash.org >> shouldn't suffer because of nabble's practices. > > I don't think this has anything to do with nabble. > >> David ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Yahoo blocking GnuCash Email
I am with AOL which I guess has something to do with Yahoo. Anyway I was getting a few [GNC] e-mails each day.?? Suddenly got a deluge covering several days.?? Somehow some must have been getting through, but most weren't.?? Now I guess I know why.?? Appreciate all the work of the GNC crew.?? Mike On 9/21/19 10:39 AM, wheelercsg-lists--- via gnucash-user wrote: This Yahoo user has seen your email! I hadn't received any emails from the list since Sept 13. I started to receive them again on Sept 20 at around 5:15 PM Eastern. Hopefully, it's not just me and the blockage is fully resolved now. On 2019-09-20 1:37 p.m., Derek Atkins wrote: Hi, Starting around September 10, Yahoo appears to have started blocking SMTP (email) originating at code.gnucash.org.?? This means that yahoo users have been prevented from receiving any mail (including list mail and bug mail), and worse, they've been blocked from sending mail *to* the list as well (due to sender-verify blocking them because yahoo is blocking us). Unfortunately, this appears to be a "due to user complaints" blockage, and Yahoo is pretty tight-lipped about why it actually is blocking. This could be due to people flagging gnucash email as spam (which might include the monthly password reminders), or it could be as stupid as people receiving the email but never reading it.?? But like I said, Yahoo won't tell me the source of the blockage. I am hoping this will clear up on it's own.?? If not, I might need to literally unsubscribe every yahoo user and then request each person to re-subscribe themselves to the list (once email clears up). I realize that no Yahoo users will actually *see* this email, but I'm hoping they will eventually be able to google for gnucash email yahoo problem or something like that and this email will pop up in a couple days in the archives.?? Alternately, email will clean up and the queue will get flushed. If anyone has other ideas, please let me know. -derek ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Yahoo blocking GnuCash Email
This Yahoo user has seen your email! I hadn't received any emails from the list since Sept 13. I started to receive them again on Sept 20 at around 5:15 PM Eastern. Hopefully, it's not just me and the blockage is fully resolved now. On 2019-09-20 1:37 p.m., Derek Atkins wrote: Hi, Starting around September 10, Yahoo appears to have started blocking SMTP (email) originating at code.gnucash.org. This means that yahoo users have been prevented from receiving any mail (including list mail and bug mail), and worse, they've been blocked from sending mail *to* the list as well (due to sender-verify blocking them because yahoo is blocking us). Unfortunately, this appears to be a "due to user complaints" blockage, and Yahoo is pretty tight-lipped about why it actually is blocking. This could be due to people flagging gnucash email as spam (which might include the monthly password reminders), or it could be as stupid as people receiving the email but never reading it. But like I said, Yahoo won't tell me the source of the blockage. I am hoping this will clear up on it's own. If not, I might need to literally unsubscribe every yahoo user and then request each person to re-subscribe themselves to the list (once email clears up). I realize that no Yahoo users will actually *see* this email, but I'm hoping they will eventually be able to google for gnucash email yahoo problem or something like that and this email will pop up in a couple days in the archives. Alternately, email will clean up and the queue will get flushed. If anyone has other ideas, please let me know. -derek ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Yahoo blocking GnuCash Email
Indeed, the queue dropped from over 6000 to 130 (normal size). So it looks like the blockage has been fixed, for now. -derek Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos. On September 21, 2019 1:40:16 PM wheelercsg-li...@yahoo.com wrote: This Yahoo user has seen your email! I hadn't received any emails from the list since Sept 13. I started to receive them again on Sept 20 at around 5:15 PM Eastern. Hopefully, it's not just me and the blockage is fully resolved now. On 2019-09-20 1:37 p.m., Derek Atkins wrote: Hi, Starting around September 10, Yahoo appears to have started blocking SMTP (email) originating at code.gnucash.org. This means that yahoo users have been prevented from receiving any mail (including list mail and bug mail), and worse, they've been blocked from sending mail *to* the list as well (due to sender-verify blocking them because yahoo is blocking us). Unfortunately, this appears to be a "due to user complaints" blockage, and Yahoo is pretty tight-lipped about why it actually is blocking. This could be due to people flagging gnucash email as spam (which might include the monthly password reminders), or it could be as stupid as people receiving the email but never reading it. But like I said, Yahoo won't tell me the source of the blockage. I am hoping this will clear up on it's own. If not, I might need to literally unsubscribe every yahoo user and then request each person to re-subscribe themselves to the list (once email clears up). I realize that no Yahoo users will actually *see* this email, but I'm hoping they will eventually be able to google for gnucash email yahoo problem or something like that and this email will pop up in a couple days in the archives. Alternately, email will clean up and the queue will get flushed. If anyone has other ideas, please let me know. -derek ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Yahoo blocking GnuCash Email
We have had SPF forever. I do admit that I've not yet set up DKIM for gnucash.org -- not sure why, because I've had it set up for my other servers for years. But it is on my to-do list. DMARC Blah. I've actually got a friend who works there and is looking into it. Still don't know *why* we were blacklisted, but it's slowly coming back. A bunch of the mail that was bouncing is now making it through. -derek On Fri, September 20, 2019 6:20 pm, elvis wrote: > > On 21/9/19 3:37 am, Derek Atkins wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Starting around September 10, Yahoo appears to have started blocking >> SMTP (email) originating at code.gnucash.org. This means that yahoo >> users have been prevented from receiving any mail (including list mail >> and bug mail), and worse, they've been blocked from sending mail *to* >> the list as well (due to sender-verify blocking them because yahoo is >> blocking us). >> >> >> >> If anyone has other ideas, please let me know. > > Maybe add dmarc and spf to your sent email / domains > > >> >> -derek >> > -- > "It's based on actual math." - Dilbert > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Yahoo blocking GnuCash Email
On 21/9/19 3:37 am, Derek Atkins wrote: Hi, Starting around September 10, Yahoo appears to have started blocking SMTP (email) originating at code.gnucash.org. This means that yahoo users have been prevented from receiving any mail (including list mail and bug mail), and worse, they've been blocked from sending mail *to* the list as well (due to sender-verify blocking them because yahoo is blocking us). If anyone has other ideas, please let me know. Maybe add dmarc and spf to your sent email / domains -derek -- "It's based on actual math." - Dilbert ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
