Re: Income shows as negative

2018-03-11 Thread Mike or Penny Novack

On 3/11/2018 3:14 AM, D wrote:

Hello,

Although I am *not* an accountant, I understand that in standard accounting, 
income is shown as a negative balance. The Tutorial covers this.

There is a setting that allows you to display income accounts with reversed 
signs, if this bothers you.

"debit" and "credit" have the opposite sense in the same way as 
"positive" and "negative" do but are not the same thing UNLESS you have 
specified that. In traditional accounting "negative" refers to an 
account having a balance in the opposite sense of what is expected. For 
example, a credit balance in an account normally debit or a debit 
balance in an account normally credit.


An account of type "income" would normally have a credit balance.

Michael D Novack
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Re: Income shows as negative

2018-03-11 Thread Stan Brown
On 2018-03-10 22:48, am wrote:
> I just finished setting up gnuCASH and found that after entering 
> income (and other date ie expenses, etc) it shows up as negative(in
> parenthesis). This would mean a negative income? Why would it not
> show as expected - POSITIVE income since there was no loss. Is this
> how accounting works? What am I missing?
Accounting as you learned it sounds like I learned it:
Debits = Credits (or Debits - Credits = 0)
Assets + Expenses = Liabilities + Equities + Income
Most transactions increase the values of the accounts. For example, if
you buy something for $100 on credit, both Assets and Liabilities
increase by $100.

But GnuCash, instead of having a balance like that, instead sets up
Debits + Credits = 0
Assets + Expenses + Liabilities + Equities + Income = 0
If you buy something on credit, Assets increase by $100 and Liabilities
decrease by $100 -- i.e, Liabilities become more negative, and -400 is
less than -300.

You can make this go away, mostly, in Edit » Preferences » Accounts.
Under "Reverse Balance Accounts", select "credit accounts".

You'll get used to this after a while.

Unfortunately, some reports don't honor this preference, or their
treatment of it is buggy, so they will show credit accounts as negative
after you make this change. Income Statement and Balance Sheet reports
get it right; the General Ledger report (as opposed to the General
Ledger tool) puts the wrong sign on totals.

-- 
Regards,
Stan Brown
Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://BrownMath.com
http://OakRoadSystems.com

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Re: Income shows as negative

2018-03-10 Thread D
Hello, 

Although I am *not* an accountant, I understand that in standard accounting, 
income is shown as a negative balance. The Tutorial covers this.

There is a setting that allows you to display income accounts with reversed 
signs, if this bothers you.

David

On March 11, 2018, at 8:59 AM, Ken Pyzik  wrote:

I am thinking it could be dependent upon what account type you set it up as.
Is it set as an Income Account or an Expense Account type?  It is possible
you have it setup as an Expense Account type which is why it would show as a
negative expense?If that is not it -- then you would have to give a
little more detail on the setup to see why it is opposite what you expect.  

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On
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Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 7:48 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Income shows as negative 

I just finished setting up gnuCASH and found that after entering income (and
other date ie expenses, etc) it shows up as negative(in parenthesis).  This
would mean a negative income? Why would it not show as expected - POSITIVE
income since there was no loss. Is this how accounting works? What am I
missing?

 

Thanks for any help

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RE: Income shows as negative

2018-03-10 Thread Ken Pyzik
I am thinking it could be dependent upon what account type you set it up as.
Is it set as an Income Account or an Expense Account type?  It is possible
you have it setup as an Expense Account type which is why it would show as a
negative expense?If that is not it -- then you would have to give a
little more detail on the setup to see why it is opposite what you expect.  

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On
Behalf Of am
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 7:48 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Income shows as negative 

I just finished setting up gnuCASH and found that after entering income (and
other date ie expenses, etc) it shows up as negative(in parenthesis).  This
would mean a negative income? Why would it not show as expected - POSITIVE
income since there was no loss. Is this how accounting works? What am I
missing?

 

Thanks for any help

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