Re: Suggestion

2017-08-06 Thread brad
It only takes a few seconds on my low end linux box which is also about 
6 yrs old.  It takes 25 sec to be completely up and most of that time is 
loading the data file.



On 08/06/2017 04:50 PM, Greg Feneis wrote:

Also FWIW, I just started GnuCash V...16 (not quite the latest) on my 6
year old Win 7 laptop and it only took 25 Seconds to get to where it begins
loading the data file.  While a lot of my programs take between 2 and 5
seconds to load, I do have a few that take quite a bit longer to load than
GnuCash does (programing, simulation, cad environments, etc.).
​
Are other folks having a significantly longer wait than 25 Seconds for
GnuCash to go from start to begin loading of data file?

Kind regards,

Greg Feneis



On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 2:50 PM, aegross  wrote:


On zondag 6 augustus 2017 16:46:24 CEST Sam McCoy wrote:

Gentlemen:

I have noticed the time it takes to load all the modules when starting
up Gnu Cash.

FWIW, I have anecdotally noticed that by far the longest module required to
load is Finance::Quote, which strictly speaking, is not GnuCash code.

Regards,
AEG





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Re: Suggestion

2017-08-06 Thread David Carlson
For me the time to move, decrypt, and decompress the data file and generate
the register views and report views is so much longer than loading the
program that I do not even try to measure that part.

David C

On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:

> Also FWIW, I just started GnuCash V...16 (not quite the latest) on my 6
> year old Win 7 laptop and it only took 25 Seconds to get to where it begins
> loading the data file.  While a lot of my programs take between 2 and 5
> seconds to load, I do have a few that take quite a bit longer to load than
> GnuCash does (programing, simulation, cad environments, etc.).
> ​
> Are other folks having a significantly longer wait than 25 Seconds for
> GnuCash to go from start to begin loading of data file?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Greg Feneis
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 2:50 PM, aegross  wrote:
>
> > >>
> > On zondag 6 augustus 2017 16:46:24 CEST Sam McCoy wrote:
> > >Gentlemen:
> > >
> > >I have noticed the time it takes to load all the modules when
> starting
> > >up Gnu Cash.
> >
> > FWIW, I have anecdotally noticed that by far the longest module required
> to
> > load is Finance::Quote, which strictly speaking, is not GnuCash code.
> >
> > Regards,
> > AEG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Suggestion

2017-08-06 Thread Greg Feneis
Also FWIW, I just started GnuCash V...16 (not quite the latest) on my 6
year old Win 7 laptop and it only took 25 Seconds to get to where it begins
loading the data file.  While a lot of my programs take between 2 and 5
seconds to load, I do have a few that take quite a bit longer to load than
GnuCash does (programing, simulation, cad environments, etc.).
​
Are other folks having a significantly longer wait than 25 Seconds for
GnuCash to go from start to begin loading of data file?

Kind regards,

Greg Feneis



On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 2:50 PM, aegross  wrote:

> >>
> On zondag 6 augustus 2017 16:46:24 CEST Sam McCoy wrote:
> >Gentlemen:
> >
> >I have noticed the time it takes to load all the modules when starting
> >up Gnu Cash.
>
> FWIW, I have anecdotally noticed that by far the longest module required to
> load is Finance::Quote, which strictly speaking, is not GnuCash code.
>
> Regards,
> AEG
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Suggestion

2017-08-06 Thread aegross
>>
On zondag 6 augustus 2017 16:46:24 CEST Sam McCoy wrote:
>Gentlemen:
> 
>I have noticed the time it takes to load all the modules when starting
>up Gnu Cash.  

FWIW, I have anecdotally noticed that by far the longest module required to
load is Finance::Quote, which strictly speaking, is not GnuCash code.

Regards,
AEG





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Re: Suggestion

2017-08-06 Thread Geert Janssens
On zondag 6 augustus 2017 16:46:24 CEST Sam McCoy wrote:
>Gentlemen:
> 
>I have noticed the time it takes to load all the modules when starting
>up Gnu Cash. Many of these modules have names that suggests they
>support business activities. I believe there are many users (loke me)
>that use gnu cash strictly for personal finances. I would therefore
>like to suggest to the developers that a smaller version of Gnu Cash be
>considered that would be sans business support, i.e invoicing, customer
>db, etc. The resulting module would be smaller and load more quickly.
>Thanks for providing me with the best damn program on planet earth.
> 
>Al Trudeau

Hi Sam,

I'm happy you enjoy using gnucash.

As to your suggestion I am about to integrate some code changes that drop the 
separate business modules and integrate all of that code into the core of 
gnucash. Rather the opposite of what you are asking. The reason for this is 
that most of the business functionality is already part of the gnucash core. 
The only things still in the loadable modules you see at startup were some gui 
related bits and pieces.

Instead I would like to ask: have you actually timed the loading of the 
business modules in the whole of the startup time ? I have my doubts whether 
removing them will have a noticeable improvement on the load performance.

Having said all that however, I do agree it would be very nice to improve the 
load performance. John Ralls has looked at this in the past and from that work 
I remember most time is lost because gnucash makes plenty of jumps between c 
code and guile code, not due to the loading of one random module in itself. 
Work is on the way to improve this, but we're not there yet. There are several 
aspects that are planned in this respect:
1. the use of guile will be reduced in the core
2. module loading will probably be revisited at some point
3. the long term goal is to make gnucash a database driven application, to 
eliminate the slow load time of the data file itself

Regards,

Geert
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