Re: [GNC] File operations open non-existant drive

[wendiallen via gnucash-user]

The registry modification seems to have solved the problem for me.  Thank you
for referring me to it.



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Re: [GNC] File operations open non-existant drive

[Colin Law]

The linked post does have suggestions for suppressing the error.

Colin

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019, 04:43 wendiallen via gnucash-user, <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Thank you both for your replies, and I guess I'll have to live with it
> until
> someone fixes it.  But just for the record, I've been using Win10 since it
> was released, and I've never seen that problem with any of the 95 other
> programs that are currently installed on my machine.
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Re: [GNC] Don't understand why I have what I have

[Maf. King]

On Sunday, 14 April 2019 23:40:03 BST ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:

> Hi Maf,
> 
> Cool. Thank you!
> 
> I am finding that I like the View --> AutoSplit Ledger the best.
> 
> Just out of curiosity, did your have Bookkeeping / accounting
> experience before starting with GnuCash?
> 


Hi Todd,

Never had any formal training for book keeping (just lots of practice!)  Been 
using GC for around 15 or 16 years now, for businesses & personal, before that 
some version of Quicken originally released for Win95.  (or possibly Win3.1)  
I must have a bit of an accountant's brain, though, cos I seemed to just "get" 
double-entry accounting straight away when starting with GC - although I do 
still struggle to remember which side is debit & credit in a transaction. 
Doesn't really matter for entering data very often, cos if i get the 
transaction backwards it is immediately obvious in the register.  It's only a 
problem when posting on the list where there aren't existing transactions to 
check against!  Gonna try and apply Cricketonebit's tip on friday in your 
other thread about "liking" debits and "being sad" for credits, and see if 
that helps. 

I use double-line auto-split ledger view by preference, but since you say that 
you're not bothered about the other accounts and everything is lumped 
together, I'm not sure why you'd need to see the split detail - I'd have 
thought that Basic ledger was more like what you originally wanted as a simple 
account overview?

Maf.



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Re: [GNC] Debian Files for GnuCash 3.4-x

[Gour]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 11:55:47 -0800
"Stephen M. Butler"  wrote:

Hello,

I migrated from Manjaro Linux where I had 3.5 installed to Devuan
(non-systemd Debian) and would like to use 'stable' (ala Stretch)
version, so have a doubt...

> Here are the three debian files for 3.4 (as released): 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fV_fURy6c77e7gf6S41lTacM7dFyy7VD
> 
> And here are the three for 3.4-45: 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1v-AWCWxbETqsXsmQ7jYX8wurL6HKASBF

...do you believe the above packages should work on Devuan 'stable' or am
I maybe better to use 'testing' version which also has 3.4 package?

Attempt to install 3.4 package on Devuan 'stable' from 'testing' is
pulling lot of pkgs - both new and many to be upgraded, so wonder how
could your package work?


Sincerely,
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Re: [GNC] Suggesting simple interface changes

[ChrisInAccounting]

Adrien, I really appreciate your feedback on my suggestions.  It sounds like
GnuCash has enough flexibility for the user to modify as they see fit, which
is fantastic.  

You have a great day, sir.

Chris



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Re: [GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Colin Law]

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 13:42, Elmar  wrote:
>
> Downloaded gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb, and tried to install via the gdebi
> installer and got an red error bar saying "Error:Dependency is not
> satisfiable: gnucash-common (=1:3.5)" I'm running Mint 18.3 with the
> Mate desktop, btw.

Where did you download that from?  If it is Stephen's deb then you
need to download and install all three files

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Transaction Report with ver.3.5 not working?

[Adrien Monteleone]

Can you describe in more detail “the Transaction report is not working for me”? 
I can successfully run that report on my fuel expenses with monthly totals.

Are you getting an error message? Are you not seeing the data you thought you 
would see? Is it not arranged how you thought it would be arranged?

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 1:34 PM, Denis  wrote:
> 
> A few days ago I upgraded from ver.2.6.16 to ver. 3.5  (no problem) 
> I like ver.3.5 but the Transaction report is not working for me.
> 
> How can I produce a *monthy totals *of car fuel expenses ? With version
> 2.6.16 it was simple to do.
> 
> Denis 

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Re: [GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Elmar]

I just saw the reply that it was built for Mint 19.x, not 18.x.. *sigh* 
I guess I have to upgrade my Mint.


On 4/15/19 8:45 AM, Colin Law wrote:

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 13:42, Elmar  wrote:

Downloaded gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb, and tried to install via the gdebi
installer and got an red error bar saying "Error:Dependency is not
satisfiable: gnucash-common (=1:3.5)" I'm running Mint 18.3 with the
Mate desktop, btw.

Where did you download that from?  If it is Stephen's deb then you
need to download and install all three files

Colin

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Re: [GNC] Unable to import QIF or QFX.

[Derek Atkins]

David,

David Cousens  writes:

> Evan,
>
> You should in principle be able to use either format, QFX or QIF (but

Please do not confuse QFX with QXF.  They are different.

QXF is a Quicken eXchange Format -- it is proprietary and GnuCash cannot
read it.

QFX is a Quicken version of OFX, but follows the same SGML standard and
CAN be imported.

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Re: [GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Adrien Monteleone]

I could be mistaken, but I think his .deb is built against Ubuntu 18.04 which 
would be Mint 19/19.1, not 18.3. (which is based on Ubuntu 16.04) If the 3.5 
.deb *should* work on a 16.04 base, then there might also be an issue with Mint 
having some packages in a held state for stability reasons or newer versions of 
some dependencies might not have been backported to the older repos. They might 
have to be downloaded manually, or repos changed first.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Elmar  wrote:
> 
> Downloaded gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb, and tried to install via the gdebi 
> installer and got an red error bar saying "Error:Dependency is not 
> satisfiable: gnucash-common (=1:3.5)" I'm running Mint 18.3 with the Mate 
> desktop, btw.
> 
> How to proceed? - Elmar

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Re: [GNC] Currency Symbol

[Christopher Lam]

 This can be fixed, but this will require modifying some files in the
C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\share\gnucash\scm\ and C:\Program Files
(x86)\gnucash\share\gnucash\scm\gnucash\report\standard-reports\ folders.
See the following for details how. If you're not confident please hold on
until 3.6 whereby this will be resolved. Red indicates delete, green
indicates add.
https://gist.github.com/christopherlam/237c8c54a4633f7cce1fd2fb14a86835

On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 at 12:20, Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> I use Turkish Lira as a primary currency in my file but I noticed after
> upgrading GnuCash to recent version (3.5) that "Expense Piechart" no
> longer recognize Turkish currency symbol (₺) while "Transaction Report"
> does!
>
>
> How can I fix this issue?
>
>
> Notes:
>
>   * I'm using Microsoft Windows 10 with en_US local.
>   * I tried to modify the currency from "Securities" window by replacing
> ₺ by £ it worked! so I believe there is something wrong about ₺ symbol.
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_lira
>
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Re: [GNC] Currency Symbol

[Christopher Lam]

https://pastebin.com/raw/T4NHNLGX
If you're not confident, please hold on for 3.6.

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 15:00, Christopher Lam 
wrote:

> This can be fixed, but this will require modifying some files in the
> C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\share\gnucash\scm\ directory
>
>
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 at 12:20, Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> I use Turkish Lira as a primary currency in my file but I noticed after
>> upgrading GnuCash to recent version (3.5) that "Expense Piechart" no
>> longer recognize Turkish currency symbol (₺) while "Transaction Report"
>> does!
>>
>>
>> How can I fix this issue?
>>
>>
>> Notes:
>>
>>   * I'm using Microsoft Windows 10 with en_US local.
>>   * I tried to modify the currency from "Securities" window by replacing
>> ₺ by £ it worked! so I believe there is something wrong about ₺
>> symbol.
>>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_lira
>>
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[GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Elmar]

Downloaded gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb, and tried to install via the gdebi 
installer and got an red error bar saying "Error:Dependency is not 
satisfiable: gnucash-common (=1:3.5)" I'm running Mint 18.3 with the 
Mate desktop, btw.


How to proceed? - Elmar


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[GNC] Transaction Report with ver.3.5 not working?

[Denis]

A few days ago I upgraded from ver.2.6.16 to ver. 3.5  (no problem) 
I like ver.3.5 but the Transaction report is not working for me.

How can I produce a *monthy totals *of car fuel expenses ? With version
2.6.16 it was simple to do.

Denis 



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Re: [GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Colin Law]

An alternative is to build it from source.

Colin

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 15:29, Elmar  wrote:
>
> I just saw the reply that it was built for Mint 19.x, not 18.x.. *sigh*
> I guess I have to upgrade my Mint.
>
> On 4/15/19 8:45 AM, Colin Law wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 13:42, Elmar  wrote:
> >> Downloaded gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb, and tried to install via the gdebi
> >> installer and got an red error bar saying "Error:Dependency is not
> >> satisfiable: gnucash-common (=1:3.5)" I'm running Mint 18.3 with the
> >> Mate desktop, btw.
> > Where did you download that from?  If it is Stephen's deb then you
> > need to download and install all three files
> >
> > Colin
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Re: [GNC] Split transaction: more than two off-setting accounts

[Derek Atkins]

Rich,

Rich Shepard  writes:

> Derek,
>
> Thank you. I did not see that in the user guide, nor became aware of using
> the tab key by reading messages to the mail list.

I am very surprised to hear this is not in the document.  I suspect it
is, but you missed it.  This feature has been around forever.

> That's a very useful capability.

Indeed.

> Best regards,
>
> Rich

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[GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions

[Greg Feneis]

Win 7-64, GnuCash 6.2.21

Hi Folks,

Is there a way to install a new version without uninstalling the old
version?  The install wizard doesn't seem to let me select the install
location, while it appears to require uninstalling the old version before
installing the new version.

Currently, GnuCash resides at C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\

If I had a choice, I might like C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\6.2.21\ for
my current installation, and C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\3.5.1\ for the
install I'm about to do, and so on.


Kind regards,

Greg Feneis
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Re: [GNC] Debian Files for GnuCash 3.4-x

[Stephen M. Butler]

On 4/15/19 12:03 AM, Gour wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I migrated from Manjaro Linux where I had 3.5 installed to Devuan
> (non-systemd Debian) and would like to use 'stable' (ala Stretch)
> version, so have a doubt...
>
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 11:55:47 -0800
>> "Stephen M. Butler"  wrote:
>>
>> Here are the three debian files for 3.4 (as released): 
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fV_fURy6c77e7gf6S41lTacM7dFyy7VD
>>
>> And here are the three for 3.4-45: 
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1v-AWCWxbETqsXsmQ7jYX8wurL6HKASBF
> ...do you believe the above packages should work on Devuan 'stable' or am
> I maybe better to use 'testing' version which also has 3.4 package?
>
> Attempt to install 3.4 package on Devuan 'stable' from 'testing' is
> pulling lot of pkgs - both new and many to be upgraded, so wonder how
> could your package work?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Gour


I am not familiar with Devuan.  The 3.5 packages were built by a debian
package builder on a Ubuntu 18.04 box.  The package builder was told the
list of needed packages so the installer should be able to detect which
ones are not on the system and install them for you.  It was built with
the 'trusty' base system set.  So if your distro is based on Trusty or
equivalent there is a good chance it will succeed.

However, make sure you have a rollback plan if it doesn't.

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Re: [GNC] Split transaction: more than two off-setting accounts

[Adrien Monteleone]

It’s there, section 6.2 There is a big special “Note” in the middle of the page 
explaining Enter vs. Tab functionality with respect to transactions and 
additional split lines. The remaining info in that section should make the 
process pretty clear.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
> Rich,
> 
> Rich Shepard  writes:
> 
>> Derek,
>> 
>> Thank you. I did not see that in the user guide, nor became aware of using
>> the tab key by reading messages to the mail list.
> 
> I am very surprised to hear this is not in the document.  I suspect it
> is, but you missed it.  This feature has been around forever.
> 
>> That's a very useful capability.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rich
> 
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Re: [GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Elmar]

Got them, thanks.  But "all at once"?  In which order?  - Elmar

On 4/15/19 12:18 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote:

On 4/15/19 5:39 AM, Elmar wrote:

Downloaded gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb, and tried to install via the gdebi
installer and got an red error bar saying "Error:Dependency is not
satisfiable: gnucash-common (=1:3.5)" I'm running Mint 18.3 with the
Mate desktop, btw.

How to proceed? - Elmar


.


You need all three packages and install them all together at once.


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Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions

[David Carlson]

Greg,

The only way I know is to use two different computers and two different
data files.

David Carlson

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 11:00 AM Greg Feneis  wrote:

> Win 7-64, GnuCash 6.2.21
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Is there a way to install a new version without uninstalling the old
> version?  The install wizard doesn't seem to let me select the install
> location, while it appears to require uninstalling the old version before
> installing the new version.
>
> Currently, GnuCash resides at C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\
>
> If I had a choice, I might like C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\6.2.21\ for
> my current installation, and C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\3.5.1\ for the
> install I'm about to do, and so on.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
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Re: [GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Adrien Monteleone]

Good to know, thanks for the hard work!

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Stephen M. Butler  wrote:
> 
> On 4/15/19 7:29 AM, Elmar wrote:
>> I just saw the reply that it was built for Mint 19.x, not 18.x..
>> *sigh* I guess I have to upgrade my Mint.
>> 
>> On 4/15/19 8:45 AM, Colin Law wrote:
>>> On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 13:42, Elmar  wrote:
 Downloaded gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb, and tried to install via the gdebi
 installer and got an red error bar saying "Error:Dependency is not
 satisfiable: gnucash-common (=1:3.5)" I'm running Mint 18.3 with the
 Mate desktop, btw.
>>> Where did you download that from?  If it is Stephen's deb then you
>>> need to download and install all three files
>>> 
>>> Colin
> 
> 
> It was built on Ubuntu 18.04 but the package building software was told
> to build for a base system of Trusty.  I believe that is Ubuntu 14.04. 
> However, newer distros should work  I did that deliberately to not
> freeze out users on the older distro.


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Re: [GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Colin Law]

All in one command, if you put them in a folder by themselves then use
sudo dpkg -i *.deb

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019, 17:38 Elmar,  wrote:

> Got them, thanks.  But "all at once"?  In which order?  - Elmar
>
> On 4/15/19 12:18 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote:
> > On 4/15/19 5:39 AM, Elmar wrote:
> >> Downloaded gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb, and tried to install via the gdebi
> >> installer and got an red error bar saying "Error:Dependency is not
> >> satisfiable: gnucash-common (=1:3.5)" I'm running Mint 18.3 with the
> >> Mate desktop, btw.
> >>
> >> How to proceed? - Elmar
> >>
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> > You need all three packages and install them all together at once.
> >
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Re: [GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Stephen M. Butler]

On 4/15/19 9:30 AM, Elmar wrote:
> Got them, thanks.  But "all at once"?  In which order?  - Elmar


I use:  sudo apt install ./*gnucash*3.5*.deb

Let apt install sort out the order.  However, I suspect common goes in
first, then python and then amd64. 

>
> On 4/15/19 12:18 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote:
>> On 4/15/19 5:39 AM, Elmar wrote:
>>> Downloaded gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb, and tried to install via the gdebi
>>> installer and got an red error bar saying "Error:Dependency is not
>>> satisfiable: gnucash-common (=1:3.5)" I'm running Mint 18.3 with the
>>> Mate desktop, btw.
>>>
>>> How to proceed? - Elmar
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>> You need all three packages and install them all together at once.
>>
>

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Re: [GNC] Unable to import QIF or QFX.

[Cricket Onebit]

Watch the order of Q and X, and O vs Q. Lots of similar file names.

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 21:42, Evan Platt  wrote:

> Wow I feel like an idiot. Attention to detail LOL. Quicken is
> exporting a QXF file. Gnucash is importing QFX. So my guess is to
> export from quicken to Gnucash I have to do account by account with
> QIF? Or is there some other way?
>
> So Importing one of my QIF files (my main QIF file) - file looks good.
> About 2 MB. When importing, it just says failed. It's at the final QIF
> import screen. No details on the log :(
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 5:44 PM David Cousens 
> wrote:
> >
> > Evan
> >
> > OFX/QFX files can be edited or examined with a text editor. Usual caution
> > about line endings and text editors between Linux and Windows
> environments
> > apply
> >
> >  First check to see if the exported file from Quicken had any content. If
> > nothing is coming up after selecting the file and pressing the import
> button
> > then either the file has no content or GnuCash is failing to parse the
> > content correctly.  OFX/QFX files are
> >
> > It is unlikely that Quicken would release a program that doesn't write
> > correct QFX files but it is always remotely possible. They should be
> > readable as OFX files as well, they just contain extra tags for
> proprietary
> > information which is ignored on import to GnuCash
> >
> > The latter could result from corruption of the file during
> writing/editing
> > copying as well as software bugs. Unclosed or missing tags are one
> > possibility
> >
> > The QFX/OFX formats are described in the following
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QFX_(file_format)
> > http://www.ofx.net/downloads/OFX%202.2.pdf
> >
> > and some info about QIF
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicken_Interchange_Format.
> >
> > There have been no major problems reported recently with OFX/QFX or QIF
> > import at the level of stopping an import. I have imported OFX/QFX files
> > from my bank in 3.5 on Linux Mint in the last day without any problems
> and
> > import has been working for the the recent 2.6 versions. Less sure about
> > QIF. If the files look OK then it may be a Windows only bug.
> >
> > David Cousens
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Stephen M. Butler]

On 4/15/19 5:39 AM, Elmar wrote:
> Downloaded gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb, and tried to install via the gdebi
> installer and got an red error bar saying "Error:Dependency is not
> satisfiable: gnucash-common (=1:3.5)" I'm running Mint 18.3 with the
> Mate desktop, btw.
>
> How to proceed? - Elmar
>
>
> .
>
You need all three packages and install them all together at once.

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Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions

[D via gnucash-user]

Two logins?

On April 15, 2019, at 11:09 PM, David Carlson  
wrote:

Greg,

The only way I know is to use two different computers and two different
data files.

David Carlson

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 11:00 AM Greg Feneis  wrote:

> Win 7-64, GnuCash 6.2.21
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Is there a way to install a new version without uninstalling the old
> version?  The install wizard doesn't seem to let me select the install
> location, while it appears to require uninstalling the old version before
> installing the new version.
>
> Currently, GnuCash resides at C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\
>
> If I had a choice, I might like C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\6.2.21\ for
> my current installation, and C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\3.5.1\ for the
> install I'm about to do, and so on.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Greg Feneis
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Re: [GNC] Start up after shut down

[davidbrown.rdps]

Hello Richard, is it because history is being deleted on full close of the OS 
and something else doing housekeeping?  I use a small batch file to open mine 
as I have different files for different account holders.  It also changes the 
basic files where reports are stored in the "users" folders to rename from the 
unused files to those associated with each account holder.  Only those reports 
pertaining to each master copy are then seen.  It saves loggin as different 
user at strtup.

David Brown


-Original Message-
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 On Behalf 
Of Richard Barmann
Sent: 15 April 2019 00:18
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Start up after shut down

I have used Gnucash for a few years but have never figured out the best way to 
shut down and open the next day with the proper files. I have to search through 
the files and open several until I find what  I am sure is the final file from 
the day before.

Richard E. Barmann

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Re: [GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Elmar]

Thanks.  Now to check to see if I can retain all my reports and my 
online signing data for account downloads ... or how to find and restore 
it as opposed to recreating everything.


On 4/15/19 12:45 PM, Colin Law wrote:

All in one command, if you put them in a folder by themselves then use
sudo dpkg -i *.deb

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019, 17:38 Elmar, > wrote:


Got them, thanks.  But "all at once"?  In which order?  - Elmar

On 4/15/19 12:18 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote:
> On 4/15/19 5:39 AM, Elmar wrote:
>> Downloaded gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb, and tried to install via the
gdebi
>> installer and got an red error bar saying "Error:Dependency is not
>> satisfiable: gnucash-common (=1:3.5)" I'm running Mint 18.3
with the
>> Mate desktop, btw.
>>
>> How to proceed? - Elmar
>>
>>
>> .
>>
> You need all three packages and install them all together at once.
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Re: [GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Stephen M. Butler]

On 4/15/19 7:29 AM, Elmar wrote:
> I just saw the reply that it was built for Mint 19.x, not 18.x..
> *sigh* I guess I have to upgrade my Mint.
>
> On 4/15/19 8:45 AM, Colin Law wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 13:42, Elmar  wrote:
>>> Downloaded gnucash_3.5_amd64.deb, and tried to install via the gdebi
>>> installer and got an red error bar saying "Error:Dependency is not
>>> satisfiable: gnucash-common (=1:3.5)" I'm running Mint 18.3 with the
>>> Mate desktop, btw.
>> Where did you download that from?  If it is Stephen's deb then you
>> need to download and install all three files
>>
>> Colin


It was built on Ubuntu 18.04 but the package building software was told
to build for a base system of Trusty.  I believe that is Ubuntu 14.04. 
However, newer distros should work  I did that deliberately to not
freeze out users on the older distro.

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[GNC] Convert from Quicken by date rather than account -- recommended?

[Cricket Onebit]

Would it work to go by date, one file per year or even quarter or month,
instead instead of by account?

Pros:
- Transactions with multiple accounts (eg transfers or "gift card + cash")
get done in the same session.
- Less confusion as to what's been done over multiple sessions.

Thanks,

Cricket / Sandy

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Re: [GNC] Transaction Report with ver.3.5 not working?

[David Carlson]

Denis,

Did you try opening the register of the account you are interested in, and
setting thefilter to the date range you want before you run the report?

David Carlson

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 4:40 PM Denis  wrote:

> The only thing I can produce is a report of all transactions with no
> total/month.
>
> It's obvious I just don't know how to create that report... Help please
>
> Denis
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Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

[Dale Alspach]

A simple rule for getting the debit and credit correct is

money flows from credit to debit.

So if you want to remove $10 from the savings account that will be a
credit of $10 to savings and debit of $10 to some other account(s) such
as Expense.

Dale

On 4/15/19 5:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Now that I am feeling brave coming off of creating a charge
> card account, I decided to create a saving account.
> 
> My bank statement shows deposits as positive numbers and
> withdrawals as negative numbers, so I decided to follow suite
> 
> Okay, I set the initial test balance to +100.  It shows in
> balance as 100.  All is well so far.
> 
> Then I put 10 in the debit column of the account, meaning I
> withdrew 10 from the account.
> 
> Problem: the balance went to 110, not to 90.  What did
> I do wrong THIS time?
> 
> Many thanks,
> -T
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Re: [GNC] Unable to import QIF or QFX.

[David Cousens]

Thanks Derek,
My dyslexia coming to the fore.
David



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Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

[Adrien Monteleone]

Another reminder - the Bank’s use of “debit/credit” with respect to your 
account is with respect to your account in *their* books which lies on the 
opposite of the ledger/accounting equation from *your* books.

So when they ‘debit your account’ to decrease it, that is because *to them* 
your account is a liability. (right side of the equation)

But in your books you would credit your account to decrease it, because it is 
on the left side of your equation. (an asset)

And notice, that when they debit, you credit - debits and credits still balance 
- even across books! (neat hunh?)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 5:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Now that I am feeling brave coming off of creating a charge
> card account, I decided to create a saving account.
> 
> My bank statement shows deposits as positive numbers and
> withdrawals as negative numbers, so I decided to follow suite
> 
> Okay, I set the initial test balance to +100.  It shows in
> balance as 100.  All is well so far.
> 
> Then I put 10 in the debit column of the account, meaning I
> withdrew 10 from the account.
> 
> Problem: the balance went to 110, not to 90.  What did
> I do wrong THIS time?
> 
> Many thanks,
> -T

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Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

[ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user]

>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 5:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user 
 wrote:

>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Now that I am feeling brave coming off of creating a charge
>> card account, I decided to create a saving account.
>>
>> My bank statement shows deposits as positive numbers and
>> withdrawals as negative numbers, so I decided to follow suite
>>
>> Okay, I set the initial test balance to +100.  It shows in
>> balance as 100.  All is well so far.
>>
>> Then I put 10 in the debit column of the account, meaning I
>> withdrew 10 from the account.
>>
>> Problem: the balance went to 110, not to 90.  What did
>> I do wrong THIS time?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> -T

On 4/15/19 3:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Another reminder - the Bank’s use of “debit/credit” with respect to your 
account is with respect to your account in *their* books which lies on the 
opposite of the ledger/accounting equation from *your* books.

So when they ‘debit your account’ to decrease it, that is because *to them* 
your account is a liability. (right side of the equation)

But in your books you would credit your account to decrease it, because it is 
on the left side of your equation. (an asset)

And notice, that when they debit, you credit - debits and credits still balance 
- even across books! (neat hunh?)

Regards,
Adrien



Hi Adrian,

So, when I deposit something to the bank, I am actually
losing money (giving it to someone else), so it is a debit?

So I should switch my opening balance to a negative number?

I think I might be going insane.  :'(

Thank you for all your patience with this!

-T


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Re: [GNC] upgrade from 2.6.12 to 3.5-1 via deb

[Stephen M. Butler]

On 4/15/19 12:04 PM, Elmar wrote:
> And it all worked perfectly, both the upgrade to Mint 19 and the
> upgrade to GC 3.5  :)  Thanks all for the hand holding.
>
> On 4/15/19 1:01 PM, Elmar wrote:
>> Thanks. Now to check to see if I can retain all my reports and my
>> online signing data for account downloads ... or how to find and
>> restore it as opposed to recreating everything.
>>
>> On 4/15/19 12:45 PM, Colin Law wrote:
>>> All in one command, if you put them in a folder by themselves then use
>>> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
>
That is great news.  Thank you for the update.

--Steve

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Re: [GNC] Transaction Report with ver.3.5 not working?

[Adrien Monteleone]

That would affect the Account Report, no? The Transaction Report, I don’t 
think, is in any way affected by the register view filter.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 5:15 PM, David Carlson  
> wrote:
> 
> Denis,
> 
> Did you try opening the register of the account you are interested in, and
> setting thefilter to the date range you want before you run the report?
> 
> David Carlson
> 
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 4:40 PM Denis  wrote:
> 
>> The only thing I can produce is a report of all transactions with no
>> total/month.
>> 
>> It's obvious I just don't know how to create that report... Help please
>> 
>> Denis
>> 


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Re: [GNC] Transaction Report with ver.3.5 not working?

[Denis]

The only thing I can produce is a report of all transactions with no
total/month.

It's obvious I just don't know how to create that report... Help please 

Denis



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[GNC] Need help with a Savings account

[ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user]

Hi All,

Now that I am feeling brave coming off of creating a charge
card account, I decided to create a saving account.

My bank statement shows deposits as positive numbers and
withdrawals as negative numbers, so I decided to follow suite

Okay, I set the initial test balance to +100.  It shows in
balance as 100.  All is well so far.

Then I put 10 in the debit column of the account, meaning I
withdrew 10 from the account.

Problem: the balance went to 110, not to 90.  What did
I do wrong THIS time?

Many thanks,
-T

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Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

[Adrien Monteleone]

No, debiting an asset account means you increased it. A withdrawal would be a 
credit to an asset account.

Remember:

Assets + Expenses = Liabilities + Equity + Income

Left side of “=“ means ‘debit increases/credit decreases’

The opposite for the right side of the “=“

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 5:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Now that I am feeling brave coming off of creating a charge
> card account, I decided to create a saving account.
> 
> My bank statement shows deposits as positive numbers and
> withdrawals as negative numbers, so I decided to follow suite
> 
> Okay, I set the initial test balance to +100.  It shows in
> balance as 100.  All is well so far.
> 
> Then I put 10 in the debit column of the account, meaning I
> withdrew 10 from the account.
> 
> Problem: the balance went to 110, not to 90.  What did
> I do wrong THIS time?
> 
> Many thanks,
> -T


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Re: [GNC] Transaction Report with ver.3.5 not working?

[Adrien Monteleone]

When you first run the report, it is blank, telling you no accounts are 
selected with a link to “Edit report options” —click that link. (or click the 
Options button in the toolbar)

In the Accounts tab of the options dialog, select the account(s) you want to 
report on. I presume in this case, Expenses:Auto:Fuel or something similar 
according to how you have your account tree set up.

You can optionally filter that set of transactions using the Filter By... 
section. (such as only transactions from the desired accounts which perhaps 
were paid in cash instead of check or card)

In the Sorting tab of this options dialog, set the "Primary Key:" to ‘Date’, 
the option for “Primary Subtotal for Date Key:” defaults to ‘Monthly’ but you 
can change it.

That is the minimum to get you what you’ve asked for help with so far.

You can then adjust other options, and click the ‘Apply’ button after each, to 
play around with the results until they are to your liking. Of particular 
interest may be the date ranges in the General tab, and the “Show subtotals 
only (hide transactional data)” in the Sorting tab. If you have multiple child 
accounts for “Fuel” and selected more than one to report on, you could set the 
“Secondary Key:” there to ‘Account Name’ instead of ‘Register Order’ to group 
the account transactions together within each month. (and even use the 
“Secondary Subtotal” option to get subtotals for each child account within each 
month)

Once you have a good option set you’d like to use again, you can use the ’Save 
Config As...’ button to save the options to a custom report name. Next time you 
want to run this report with the same options, use the "Saved Report 
Configurations" menu entry instead of the generic "Transaction Report" entry.

Note, you don’t have to close the options dialog for changes to take effect, 
just use the Apply button. This way you can quickly toggle and customize the 
desired options to get what you want.

Regards,
Adrien


> On Apr 15, 2019, at 4:38 PM, Denis  wrote:
> 
> The only thing I can produce is a report of all transactions with no
> total/month.
> 
> It's obvious I just don't know how to create that report... Help please 
> 
> Denis

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Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

[Adrien Monteleone]

I wrote a longer reply, but let’s get this out of the way first:

What makes you think ‘losing money’ = ‘debit'?


Regards,
Adrien
> 
> Hi Adrian,
> 
> So, when I deposit something to the bank, I am actually
> losing money (giving it to someone else), so it is a debit?
> 
> So I should switch my opening balance to a negative number?
> 
> I think I might be going insane.  :'(
> 
> Thank you for all your patience with this!
> 
> -T

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Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

[Adrien Monteleone]

Sorry, too much copying and pasting and not enough proofreading. That second 
‘report’ should have read:


===
ToddAndMargo Balance Sheet (partial)
as of April 15, 2019

Assets
Cash$ 250
Savings $ 900
-
Total Assets$1150
===


for clarity as of the date of the report.

Regards,
Adrien


> On Apr 15, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> ===
> ToddAndMargo Balance Sheet (partial)
> 
> Assets
>   Cash$ 250
>   Savings $ 900
>   -
> Total Assets  $1150
> ===


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Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

[ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user]

On 4/15/19 4:10 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

What makes you think ‘losing money’ = ‘debit'?


Hi Adrian,

By "losing money", I meant money moving away from me.
From me (debit) to the bank

By the way, I am a bit disturbed with myself that I actually
understood your reply.

By chance do you have a teaching background?  It is a skill
all in its own and you are very good at it.

And now a word from the funniest man to ever have walked the face
of this earth:


“He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does
not ask remains a fool forever.”
   ― Mark Twain

Okay, maybe 10 minutes.

:-)

-T

 Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most
 --Mark Twain


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Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

[John Clark via gnucash-user]

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wrote a longer reply, but let’s get this out of the way first:
> 
> What makes you think ‘losing money’ = ‘debit’?

Because these terms ‘never make sense’, as seen by this example. It is far more 
simpler to just say, money coming in, on the left, money going out on the 
right… or is the other way around...

I will of course note that I was kicked out of highschool accounting class for 
this and a few other reasons, namely I could give a rats ass about a few cents 
of difference between the right and left columns, whatever the convention.

In the case of the bank, when I put money into ‘my’ account that is an 
increase, and when the bank, at least in the olden days of savings accounts, 
put in interest, again an increase from my perspective, and hence a credit to 
that account for the bank’s ‘use’ of the money.

And if I dispatch dealing with banks, I sure don’t ‘owe’(debit) a cookie jar to 
store my cash, and when I take money out, it sure is no ‘credit’ to the cookie 
jar.


> 
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
>> 
>> Hi Adrian,
>> 
>> So, when I deposit something to the bank, I am actually
>> losing money (giving it to someone else), so it is a debit?
>> 
>> So I should switch my opening balance to a negative number?
>> 
>> I think I might be going insane.  :'(
>> 
>> Thank you for all your patience with this!
>> 
>> -T
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Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

[Adrien Monteleone]

As Dale mentioned in another reply, money moves from credit to debit.

Do not think of the money as moving from you to the bank.

Think of the money as moving from one (or more) of your accounts to another one 
(or more) of your accounts.

Everything is done within and from the perspective of *your* books, not someone 
else’s. (sorry if my other reply confused you on that point)

When the *bank* says they are ‘crediting’ or ‘debiting’ your account, that is 
from *their* perspective in *their* books. From your perspective, in your 
books, you would enter that same transaction as a debit in that account. So 
when the bank says they are ‘crediting’ your account, thus increasing its 
value, that means their liability to you is increasing, because your account 
with them is not an asset account, it is a liability account. (opposite side of 
the accounting equation from their perspective) When they say they are 
‘debiting’ your account, thus decreasing its value, that means they owe you 
less, they’re decreasing their liability. But while the effect in your books is 
the same (increase or decrease) the side of the ledger you record it on is the 
opposite (debit or credit).


Let’s say yesterday, you started with $800 in your savings account and you had 
$350 on hand in cash...



===
ToddAndMargo Balance Sheet (partial)
as of April 14, 2019

Assets
Cash$ 350
Savings $ 800
-
Total Assets$1150
===



Now, today, you move $100 from Cash (credit) to Savings (debit)

DateMemoDebit   Credit
-   -   -   --
4/15/19 Assets:Savings  $100
Assets:Cash $100


When written Journal style it would look like this:

4/15/19
Dr. Assets:Savings  $100
Cr. Assets:Cash $100

I indented the amounts as well, but they might not always appear that way in 
textbooks and references. The distinguishing feature is the ‘Dr.’ and ‘Cr.’ 
prefixes to denote which is which.

(for some reason, convention has it to always show debits first, and usually to 
indent all credits, but you can enter them as credits first if you like, though 
GnuCash will likely re-order them to debits first upon saving.)



===
ToddAndMargo Balance Sheet (partial)

Assets
Cash$ 250
Savings $ 900
-
Total Assets$1150
===



As you can see, your total assets did not change. Your books remain in balance. 
Money did not appear or disappear, it moved from one area where you held it to 
another area where you held it. (it is still your asset) I didn’t need to show 
the Liabilities or Equities section of the Balance Sheet because they did not 
change and were not affected. (and we don’t even know or care about them for 
this example)

From your perspective, the increase in your savings account *came from* your 
cash on hand.

Now, let’s look at the Bank’s books for the exact same transaction:



===
'First Bank' Balance Sheet (partial)
as of April 14, 2019

Assets
Cash$ 800
-
Total Assets$ 800

Liabilities
   ToddAndMargo $ 800
-
Total Liabilities   $ 800
===



So ‘First Bank’ as of close of business yesterday, has $800 cash on hand, and 
they owe it all to ToddAndMargo. (sweet!)

This is how that *same* transaction above from your books, looks in theirs:

DateMemoDebit   Credit
-   -   -   --
4/15/19 Assets:Cash $100
Liabilities:ToddAndMargo$100


Or, Journal Style:

4/15/19
Dr. Assets:Cash $100
Cr. Liabilities:ToddAndMargo$100

As you can see, *your* savings account with them is a liability, and the 
entries for it are on the opposite side of the ledger from your books.



===
'First Bank' Balance Sheet (partial)
as of April 15, 2019

Assets
Cash$ 900
-
Total Assets$ 900

Liabilities
   ToddAndMargo $ 900
-
Total Liabilities   $ 900
===

Now, at the end of today, First Bank now has $900 on hand, and they still owe 
all of it to ToddAndMargo, while their assets increased, so did their 
liabilities. Their books still are in balance.

From their perspective, their increase in cash on hand, *came from* their 
liability (debt) to you.



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Re: [GNC] Cannot retrieve quotes for some securities

[David T. via gnucash-user]

Alphavantage implemented limits on the number of quotes that can be retrieved 
at a time. This was discussed some months back, with suggestions on different 
remedies. 

Changing the source to "Yahoo as json" is one of those solutions. Editing the 
perl in Finance::Quote to add a time delay was another. YMMV.
David

 
 
  On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:19, wendiallen via 
gnucash-user wrote:   GnuCash 3.5; Win10Pro64.  I've 
set up the scripts to get quotes from Alpha
Vantage, and edited my securities to "get online quotes."  Every time I
click "get quotes", I get a message that quotes for some of my securities
cannot be retrieved.  They are different each time, and the number varies
from most (~12) to only one or two.  Immediately re-clicking results in a
different subset of securities.  Can anyone assist with fixing this issue?



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[GNC] Equity Calculation on the Balance Sheet

[Tom Balaban]

For reasons that I haven't Yet figured out, AR and AP balances are often 
incorrect on my Balance Sheet but are correct on the Payables and 
Receivable Aging reports.


This forces me to recast the Balance Sheet in a spreadsheet using the 
correct AP & AR balances. The math is basic but our company is on the 
cusp of profitability and I'm having problem with the Balance Sheet 
Report term "Retained Losses". Does this appear when we are not 
profitable and what does it change to when we are profitable, as I 
suspect we are beginning last month?


I much prefer using Retained Earnings with a negative number to present 
accumulated losses and my recollection of how the Equity portion is 
structured is something like the following"


Equity
Equity
Retained Earnings {based on Fiscal year end}
Income Y-T-D
Total Equity

FWIW, the Balance Sheet report shows Retained Losses of $38.61 but our 
P shows Y-T-D income as $1,246.95. I agree with the P but where does 
GC get the Retained Losses from?


Thanks for reading.

Tom
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Re: [GNC] Equity Calculation on the Balance Sheet

[Adrien Monteleone]

Tom,

Strange that the AR/AP numbers would be different on those two reports. Perhaps 
it is a date issue on the Aging reports. Make sure they would end on the same 
day you are running the balance sheet for. The only thing I can think of that 
might cause this would be bills and invoices that are posted to dates beyond 
the Balance Sheet date and those aging reports are set to include them. (the 
Balance Sheet won’t of course, because their date hasn’t arrived) If the 
Balance Sheet is set for a date beyond all posted invoices and bills and so 
your aging reports are ’thru’ the same date, then I’m not sure where the 
problem lies.

Retained Earnings/Losses is a friendly shortcut of GnuCash so you don’t have to 
‘Close the Books’ each year to get that figure. (this is the computer age after 
all)

In this case, the net of Income-Expenses is a loss for now.

If you’d rather have an actual Equity account where you record Retained 
Earnings/Losses, then as of the date for each end of year, perform the close 
books procedure. (or close all income and expense accounts to that account 
manually)

The reason your Balance Sheet is showing a different number than Net Income YTD 
is that the Balance Sheet is ‘for all time’ not just this year. So effectively, 
you are only $38.61 from becoming profitable since you opened the books in 
GnuCash.

Essentially, this wouldn’t change if you used an actual Equity account here. It 
would show "Equity:Retained Earnings" as "-$38.61".

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 9:20 PM, Tom Balaban  wrote:
> 
> For reasons that I haven't Yet figured out, AR and AP balances are often 
> incorrect on my Balance Sheet but are correct on the Payables and Receivable 
> Aging reports.
> 
> This forces me to recast the Balance Sheet in a spreadsheet using the correct 
> AP & AR balances. The math is basic but our company is on the cusp of 
> profitability and I'm having problem with the Balance Sheet Report term 
> "Retained Losses". Does this appear when we are not profitable and what does 
> it change to when we are profitable, as I suspect we are beginning last month?
> 
> I much prefer using Retained Earnings with a negative number to present 
> accumulated losses and my recollection of how the Equity portion is 
> structured is something like the following"
> 
> Equity
> Equity
>Retained Earnings {based on Fiscal year end}
> Income Y-T-D
> Total Equity
> 
> FWIW, the Balance Sheet report shows Retained Losses of $38.61 but our P 
> shows Y-T-D income as $1,246.95. I agree with the P but where does GC get 
> the Retained Losses from?
> 
> Thanks for reading.
> 
> Tom


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Re: [GNC] Cannot retrieve quotes for some securities

[wendiallen via gnucash-user]

Yahoo as JSON works.  Thank you.  One related question...  Since installing
the additional software for online quotes, a command window pops up for a
few seconds when GnuCash starts, as well as when I click "get quotes."  It's
quite annoying.  Is there any way to suppress it?



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