Re: [GNC] Build 4.8 docs issue

[Dale Alspach]

An explanation of the *conversion process* used by Amazon for kindle is
given here https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G200634390.
Note that MOBI is not supported for new documents.

Dale


On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 9:32 PM A Harvey  wrote:

> Addressing the messages in reverse order.
> I should have been more precise.  All my comments have assumed the user has
> an Kindle e-reader, i.e. "Kindle", "Kindle Paperwhite" or "Kindle Oasis".
> I thought the "Kindle Fire" was or is a tablet, not just an e-reader.  I
> know very little about the Fire.  I think it has a color display and does
> stuff one might expect a tablet to do including download and run apps.
>
> With respect to how to get documents onto a Kindle, either of the methods I
> briefly described will work for any format supported by the Kindle.  I have
> a bunch of books I bought from a non-Amazon site that lets one download a
> purchased book in multiple formats.  This site offers PDF, ePub and MOBI.
> I uploaded books in all 3 formats (including ePub) from my PC to my Amazon
> account by emailing the books, as attachments, to the email address
> supplied by Amazon for that purpose.  My Kindle will display all of these
> in the list of documents for my personal library.  WiFi connection
> required, of course. If I want to read them, I can download them from my
> library at Amazon to my Kindle device over the network. They remain stored
> on the device until I decide to remove them.  I can read the PDF version,
> with some pain as I mentioned. I can read the MOBI version without any
> trouble.  If I try to read the ePub, I get an error essentially telling me
> it can't decipher that.
>
> I have also loaded various format docs from my PC to my Kindle via a USB
> cable.  I find the email method to be much easier and faster than
> connecting the device to my PC.  Also, I can load the books from my library
> to the Android Kindle app and to the Windows app in the same way as I do
> for the Kindle device.
>
> With respect to handling HTML as a document, it works fine if there is only
> a *single* HTML file with no other files required.  I don't think this
> would work very well for the GNC documentation if it requires any other
> files of any type including HTML or a directory structure.  I think
> Amazon has a section on its web site with information for authors.  I have
> not looked at this and don't know if it has suggestions that would help for
> the GNC documentation.
>
> Regarding Amazon dropping MOBI, I hadn't heard about Amazon dropping MOBI
> support from their readers.  There would be a large number of pissed-off
> people who bought content from Amazon in MOBI years ago. I'm guessing they
> require any new books that are sold through Amazon to be one of the AZW
> formats as I think they have better formatting capabilities and make it
> harder to remove DRM.  I haven't investigated that carefully so don't quote
> me.
>
> I tried the link from flywire
> https://gnucash-docs-rst.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html
>  in the "Experimental Browser" (I'm thinking that the browser has been
> around maybe 10 or more years.  An endless experiment).  I was happy that
> it loaded more quickly than I expected.  Most of my time was spent trying
> to correctly type the url.  Using links to navigate worked fine.  One must
> remember that the Kindle display is black and white only so everything is
> grayscale.  Also, it has the same size issue as does PDF.  The entire page
> is loaded and the only way to enlarge text is by zooming in.  No reflow of
> that document.
>
> I also loaded a single HTML document to the device and displayed it as I
> would any other book . It works fine. Text reflows and it follows links to
> locations that are within the document.
>
> Hope some of this information proves useful.
> -Arthur
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 7:24 PM D.  wrote:
>
> > The app question depends on the type of Kindle you're using. The Fire has
> > supported apps in the past, but more bare bones Kindles don't.
> > --
> > *From:* A Harvey
> > *Sent:* Sun Oct 03 15:30:50 EDT 2021
> > *To:* "D."
> > *Cc:* flywire , Gnucash Users
> > *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Build 4.8 docs issue
> >
> > Flywire and D.
> > Thanks for the suggestions.  I will try them tonight and report back.
> >
> > The Kindle has what Amazon calls the "Experimental Browser".  I have
> tried
> > it a few times in the past just to see what it's like.  What it's like is
> > pouring molasses, but it works.  I will try entering the link in the
> Kindle
> > browser.  I will also try to display an HTML document loaded to my Kindle
> > to compare the speed.  I assume that would be much faster. To get an HTML
> > document to a Kindle, I either have to email it to an address that is
> > unique to my account which will store it with the rest of my docs on an
> > Amazon server, or plug my Kindle into a PC and copy the document from the
> > PC to the Kindle.
> >
> > With respect to 

[GNC] Billing Terms Editor not "sticky"

[Benjamin Soffer]

Hello,

I am using version 3.8 for Windows.

When I set the invoice "due" period in the Billing Terms Editor (for example 15 
days), the system does not "remember" this setting when I post a new invoice.  
The due date remains the same as the post date, by default.  Any suggestions?

Ben
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions do not appear in the register until is pressed

[Glenn Fowler]

Everyone,

Should I open a bug report? I would think that looking at an incorrect
register would be deemed a bug and not a feature request.

On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 8:03 PM Christina Martin 
wrote:

> I agree Glenn. It used to do so.
>
> Regards,
> Christina
>
> *Christina Martin*
> Sent from my device, please excuse any typo's.
>
> On 4 October 2021 1:27:12 am Glenn Fowler  wrote:
>
>> Hi Christina,
>>
>> What you described is the same issue. The only difference is I am
>> pressing  and you are closing and reopening the register for the
>> scheduled transactions to appear.
>>
>> The expected behaviour should be for the scheduled transactions to appear
>> without user input in the register.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 10:17 PM Christina Martin <
>> christ...@airgeadstudio.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a similar problem, although I haven't tried entering a blank txn.
>>> Another user reported something similar back in February and I tried to
>>> add
>>> my $0.02 worth at the time, but two messages I sent didn't get through.
>>>
>>> In a nutshell, I save the registry, close and reopen it and the txns
>>> show up.
>>>
>>> Below is a copy of the information I tried to send in Feb, setting out
>>> the
>>> testing I had done.
>>>
>>> "I tried to send this response to the list 2 days ago, but I haven't
>>> seen
>>> it come in on the digest, so I must have done something wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I finally had time to sit down and do some testing and I'm covering
>>> things
>>> raised and suggested in a variety of digests up to Wed 10/2.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This odd behaviour started when I was using the previous version, and I
>>> hoped that the upgrade to the 4.x series would fix it. I *think* I was
>>> still on 2.x when I upgraded last year, but I can't be certain of that
>>> (the
>>> manual update process means I tend to leave it for a while). For a
>>> variety
>>> of reasons that I don't wish to get into now, I decided to start a new
>>> file
>>> for the start of the Australian financial year on 1 July 2020. I can't
>>> remember exactly what I did except that it involved a blank copy of the
>>> original account tree. I then manually created all my scheduled
>>> transactions to match the original file. I don't know if that means that
>>> I've somehow imported an old error.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm running GC 4.2 (build 4.2+(2020-09-26) on Windows 10 Home 64 bit OS
>>> (build 19041.746). The only filters I have set are to hide reconciled
>>> txns
>>> in each register, and the financial year for Australia.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The first thing I've noticed is that I don't need to fully close GC to
>>> get
>>> the scheduled txns to display - closing and reopening the account is
>>> sufficient. I tend to keep all 4 personal accounts open all the time
>>> inside
>>> GC, so I guess I'd potentially have to close and reopen all 4, in which
>>> case, closing and reopening the entire file is easier.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have created a new scheduled txn from a dummy txn in my register. I
>>> left
>>> "Notify me when created ticked". I saved the file and then ran Actions
>>> ->
>>> Scheduled Txns -> Since Last Run... I cancelled the Since Last Run
>>> window
>>> that popped up. The txns did not display until I closed and reopened the
>>> account register although I could see that the balance in the register
>>> changed where the next txn should be showing up. When I click on OK at
>>> the
>>> Since Last Run window, the full details of the scheduled txns
>>> immediately
>>> show up in the register. If I click on the "Review Created Transactions"
>>> check box in the Since Last Run... window and click on OK, the two txns
>>> that should show up open in a new register window titled Created
>>> Transactions *and* I can see them immediately in the account register.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Carlson mentioned that he didn't know what I meant by GC telling
>>> me
>>> on start up how many scheduled txns it had created. My scheduled txns
>>> are
>>> *always* set to be Enabled (ticked) Create automatically (ticked) Create
>>> in
>>> advance 14 days ticked. I always disable Notify me when created (as I
>>> hadn't noticed until today that was an option to turn off in Edit ->
>>> Preferences -> Scheduled Transactions - in my defence, I last edited
>>> them
>>> several years ago). I created a new scheduled txn according to these
>>> parameters and I get a pop-up window on start up that says:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "There are no Scheduled Transactions to be entered at this time. (2
>>> transactions automatically created) -> Close"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The txns will change the balance in the register, but the actual detail
>>> won't display until the account is closed and reopened.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I have "Notify me when created" checked, I get the Since Last Run
>>> window
>>> instead. All of my 30+ scheduled txns do *not* have this enabled - I do
>>> not
>>> need to be told what they are on start up, I just need them to show up
>>> 

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 222, Issue 51

[Mahon Finbar]

Agreed wholeheartedly. Is it not time that there would be some way of 
sorting of the messages.


There is no doubt that the gnucash-user service is fantastic when you 
have an issue but it gets a little tedious when the inbox is clogged 
with strings of messages from the cognoscenti about rather obscure 
anomalies.


Just a thought.

On 01/10/2021 03:08, Stan Brown wrote:

May I give a gentle reminder to everyone: "Re: [GNC] gnucash-user
Digest, Vol 222, Issue 51" is an absolutely terrible subject line.

Please, for the sake of everyone on the list, use a subject line that
describes the actual subject. There are a lot of messages on this list,
and it's a significant time-saver if we can use the subject line to
decide whether to open a message or delete it unread.

Thanks!


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Re: [GNC] Build 4.8 docs issue

[john]

That seems to be about the formats that are accepted through their KDP 
publishing service, not the readers themselves, and that if one wants one's 
book to be usable on e-ink Kindles like Arthur's the choices are now plain text 
or PDF. 

We don't use that service so it's a bit irrelevant, isn't it?

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Oct 4, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Dale Alspach  wrote:
> 
> An explanation of the *conversion process* used by Amazon for kindle is
> given here https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G200634390.
> Note that MOBI is not supported for new documents.
> 
> Dale
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 9:32 PM A Harvey  wrote:
> 
>> Addressing the messages in reverse order.
>> I should have been more precise.  All my comments have assumed the user has
>> an Kindle e-reader, i.e. "Kindle", "Kindle Paperwhite" or "Kindle Oasis".
>> I thought the "Kindle Fire" was or is a tablet, not just an e-reader.  I
>> know very little about the Fire.  I think it has a color display and does
>> stuff one might expect a tablet to do including download and run apps.
>> 
>> With respect to how to get documents onto a Kindle, either of the methods I
>> briefly described will work for any format supported by the Kindle.  I have
>> a bunch of books I bought from a non-Amazon site that lets one download a
>> purchased book in multiple formats.  This site offers PDF, ePub and MOBI.
>> I uploaded books in all 3 formats (including ePub) from my PC to my Amazon
>> account by emailing the books, as attachments, to the email address
>> supplied by Amazon for that purpose.  My Kindle will display all of these
>> in the list of documents for my personal library.  WiFi connection
>> required, of course. If I want to read them, I can download them from my
>> library at Amazon to my Kindle device over the network. They remain stored
>> on the device until I decide to remove them.  I can read the PDF version,
>> with some pain as I mentioned. I can read the MOBI version without any
>> trouble.  If I try to read the ePub, I get an error essentially telling me
>> it can't decipher that.
>> 
>> I have also loaded various format docs from my PC to my Kindle via a USB
>> cable.  I find the email method to be much easier and faster than
>> connecting the device to my PC.  Also, I can load the books from my library
>> to the Android Kindle app and to the Windows app in the same way as I do
>> for the Kindle device.
>> 
>> With respect to handling HTML as a document, it works fine if there is only
>> a *single* HTML file with no other files required.  I don't think this
>> would work very well for the GNC documentation if it requires any other
>> files of any type including HTML or a directory structure.  I think
>> Amazon has a section on its web site with information for authors.  I have
>> not looked at this and don't know if it has suggestions that would help for
>> the GNC documentation.
>> 
>> Regarding Amazon dropping MOBI, I hadn't heard about Amazon dropping MOBI
>> support from their readers.  There would be a large number of pissed-off
>> people who bought content from Amazon in MOBI years ago. I'm guessing they
>> require any new books that are sold through Amazon to be one of the AZW
>> formats as I think they have better formatting capabilities and make it
>> harder to remove DRM.  I haven't investigated that carefully so don't quote
>> me.
>> 
>> I tried the link from flywire
>> https://gnucash-docs-rst.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html
>> in the "Experimental Browser" (I'm thinking that the browser has been
>> around maybe 10 or more years.  An endless experiment).  I was happy that
>> it loaded more quickly than I expected.  Most of my time was spent trying
>> to correctly type the url.  Using links to navigate worked fine.  One must
>> remember that the Kindle display is black and white only so everything is
>> grayscale.  Also, it has the same size issue as does PDF.  The entire page
>> is loaded and the only way to enlarge text is by zooming in.  No reflow of
>> that document.
>> 
>> I also loaded a single HTML document to the device and displayed it as I
>> would any other book . It works fine. Text reflows and it follows links to
>> locations that are within the document.
>> 
>> Hope some of this information proves useful.
>> -Arthur
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 7:24 PM D.  wrote:
>> 
>>> The app question depends on the type of Kindle you're using. The Fire has
>>> supported apps in the past, but more bare bones Kindles don't.
>>> --
>>> *From:* A Harvey
>>> *Sent:* Sun Oct 03 15:30:50 EDT 2021
>>> *To:* "D."
>>> *Cc:* flywire , Gnucash Users
>>> *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Build 4.8 docs issue
>>> 
>>> Flywire and D.
>>> Thanks for the suggestions.  I will try them tonight and report back.
>>> 
>>> The Kindle has what Amazon calls the "Experimental Browser".  I have
>> tried
>>> it a few times in the past just to see what it's like.  What it's like is
>>> pouring molasses, but it works.  I 

Re: [GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config

[David H]

Klaus,

This from the release notes may be relevant ?  On Windows after installing
4.7 I had a couple of windows flash up quickly, to quickly to read what
they said and then a new blank Gnucash file opened.  I had to use file open
to open my usual xml Gnucash file

The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 4.7, the eighth release in
the stable 4.x series
Compatibility Notice

In order to allow flatpak users to share preferences with installations
outside of the sandbox we need to change the preference path from
/org/gnucash to /org/gnucash/GnuCash. This release of GnuCash does that and
it will automatically migrate existing preferences. It does not, however,
continue to write preferences to the old path and it runs the migration
only once. If you go back and forth between GnuCash 4.7 and an older
versions you'll have two sets of preferences, one for GnuCash 4.7 and later
and another for GnuCash 4.6 and earlier. This includes the file history
list and last-opened file.

Cheers David H.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 07:07, Klaus Dahlke  wrote:

> Hi,
> I run gnucash 4.5 on ArchLinux and compile gnucash from the sources.
> Yesterday I wanted to upgrade/install gnucash 4.8 by:
>
> cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/klaus -G Ninja ..
> ninja
> ninja install
>
> All went smoothly, but when starting gnucash, the warning/error came up:
> no book found (or similar), i.e., gnucash starts but no accounts, register
> etc are there. I then went to File -> Open' and opened the postgres
> database. The data were read, but not displayed as expected: currency was
> USD, date format was US,  no register color etc. I changed some of
> Preferences as setting the register color scheme to gnucash default,
> currency to Er, date format etc. But after exiting and restarting gnucash,
> none of the preference settings where save. The warning message and teh
> look and feel was exactly the same as right after compile.
>
> I then switched back to gnucash 4.5 by compiling it from the sources by
> the above method and all works fine again.
>
> Did I miss something in the installation procedure or is it worth filing a
> bug?
>
> Thanks
> Klaus
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Re: [GNC] Cannot get current version from Flathub on Raspbian OS

[john]

> On Oct 4, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Tommy Trussell  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 9:13 PM Colin  > wrote:
> 
>> I apologize if I’m adding (yet another) newbie flatpak question to this
>> list, but…
>> 
>> I’ve got GnuCash installed on my Raspberry Pi 4 running the latest
>> updates. I installed GnuCash, via Flathub, following the instructions on
>> the GnuCash Wiki page. BUT I only got version 4.4.
>> 
>> Running 'flatpack update’ does not help, as it shows no available updates.
>> 
>> What am I missing?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Colin
>> 
> 
> I think it's a great question!
> 
> The short answer is GnuCash might not currently be being built for the Pi,
> probably since version 4.4. (Unless it has appeared in the flatpak
> repository since you asked.)
> 
> Unfortunately I can't find an easy way to tell without digging out a Pi and
> looking for myself. The flatpak commands only show what's available for the
> host's architecture, which for me is x86_64, so I cannot see the Pi
> packages at all.
> 
> If there's a way to see all the architectures the repository contains
> for GnuCash, that would make it much easier, but I don't know how.
> 
> I hope someone sees this and can say what is getting built!

If you look at the top commit at 
https://github.com/flathub/org.gnucash.GnuCash/ 
 you'll see a little green 
check next to it. Hover on that check and it shows the three GitHub Actions 
that drive flathub publishing. They're build-aarch64, build-x86_64, and 
download-sources. All passed, meaning that there's an aarch64 build floating 
around somewhere, but all of the steps past pushing to that repo are automatic 
and somewhat opaque.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Build 4.8 docs issue

[A Harvey]

A Harvey
4:49 PM (1 minute ago)
to john
All,
I have a couple of questions.

1) Do you think it is important that the documentation be easily readable
on a Kindle e-reader?
If not, then no problem.

2) Do the documents need to be published on Amazon?
If not, then I would think that a MOBI version of the documentation created
by the GNC team would work on a Kindle.  I buy books that are not published
on Amazon, that are in MOBI format (and have no DRM protection) and they
work fine on my Kindle (e.g. https://www.ebooksbridge.com/}.  I think the
only relevance of Amazon dropping MOBI for authors wanting to sell new
books through Amazon is that they cannot submit them to Amazon in MOBI
format unless there is no reflow needed.  I don't see how Amazon can afford
to drop MOBI support from the Kindle e-readers in the near future, if ever,
because they have sold tons (metaphorically speaking) of books *with DRM
protection* in MOBI format to customers.  If the Kindle stops supporting
MOBI, those books can never be read again because the DRM will only let
them be read on a Kindle device or app that is registered to that
user's account.  If Amazon wanted to try to put pressure on other e-book
vendors by not supporting books that have no DRM protection, Amazon would
only hurt themselves as there are plenty of free apps that support MOBI
books without DRM.  Amazon would be giving potential customers a reason not
to buy a Kindle and not to buy e-books from Amazon because they could drop
support for other formats from their e-readers in the future.

Thanks,
-Arthur

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 3:02 PM john  wrote:

> That seems to be about the formats that are accepted through their KDP
> publishing service, not the readers themselves, and that if one wants one's
> book to be usable on e-ink Kindles like Arthur's the choices are now plain
> text or PDF.
>
> We don't use that service so it's a bit irrelevant, isn't it?
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
> > On Oct 4, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Dale Alspach  wrote:
> >
> > An explanation of the *conversion process* used by Amazon for kindle is
> > given here https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G200634390.
> > Note that MOBI is not supported for new documents.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 9:32 PM A Harvey  wrote:
> >
> >> Addressing the messages in reverse order.
> >> I should have been more precise.  All my comments have assumed the user
> has
> >> an Kindle e-reader, i.e. "Kindle", "Kindle Paperwhite" or "Kindle
> Oasis".
> >> I thought the "Kindle Fire" was or is a tablet, not just an e-reader.  I
> >> know very little about the Fire.  I think it has a color display and
> does
> >> stuff one might expect a tablet to do including download and run apps.
> >>
> >> With respect to how to get documents onto a Kindle, either of the
> methods I
> >> briefly described will work for any format supported by the Kindle.  I
> have
> >> a bunch of books I bought from a non-Amazon site that lets one download
> a
> >> purchased book in multiple formats.  This site offers PDF, ePub and
> MOBI.
> >> I uploaded books in all 3 formats (including ePub) from my PC to my
> Amazon
> >> account by emailing the books, as attachments, to the email address
> >> supplied by Amazon for that purpose.  My Kindle will display all of
> these
> >> in the list of documents for my personal library.  WiFi connection
> >> required, of course. If I want to read them, I can download them from my
> >> library at Amazon to my Kindle device over the network. They remain
> stored
> >> on the device until I decide to remove them.  I can read the PDF
> version,
> >> with some pain as I mentioned. I can read the MOBI version without any
> >> trouble.  If I try to read the ePub, I get an error essentially telling
> me
> >> it can't decipher that.
> >>
> >> I have also loaded various format docs from my PC to my Kindle via a USB
> >> cable.  I find the email method to be much easier and faster than
> >> connecting the device to my PC.  Also, I can load the books from my
> library
> >> to the Android Kindle app and to the Windows app in the same way as I do
> >> for the Kindle device.
> >>
> >> With respect to handling HTML as a document, it works fine if there is
> only
> >> a *single* HTML file with no other files required.  I don't think this
> >> would work very well for the GNC documentation if it requires any other
> >> files of any type including HTML or a directory structure.  I think
> >> Amazon has a section on its web site with information for authors.  I
> have
> >> not looked at this and don't know if it has suggestions that would help
> for
> >> the GNC documentation.
> >>
> >> Regarding Amazon dropping MOBI, I hadn't heard about Amazon dropping
> MOBI
> >> support from their readers.  There would be a large number of pissed-off
> >> people who bought content from Amazon in MOBI years ago. I'm guessing
> they
> >> require any new books that are sold through Amazon to be one of the AZW
> >> formats as I 

Re: [GNC] Cannot get current version from Flathub on Raspbian OS

[Tommy Trussell]

On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 9:13 PM Colin  wrote:

> I apologize if I’m adding (yet another) newbie flatpak question to this
> list, but…
>
> I’ve got GnuCash installed on my Raspberry Pi 4 running the latest
> updates. I installed GnuCash, via Flathub, following the instructions on
> the GnuCash Wiki page. BUT I only got version 4.4.
>
> Running 'flatpack update’ does not help, as it shows no available updates.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Thanks,
> Colin
>

I think it's a great question!

The short answer is GnuCash might not currently be being built for the Pi,
probably since version 4.4. (Unless it has appeared in the flatpak
repository since you asked.)

Unfortunately I can't find an easy way to tell without digging out a Pi and
looking for myself. The flatpak commands only show what's available for the
host's architecture, which for me is x86_64, so I cannot see the Pi
packages at all.

If there's a way to see all the architectures the repository contains
for GnuCash, that would make it much easier, but I don't know how.

I hope someone sees this and can say what is getting built!



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Re: [GNC] Upgrade installation question

[john]

> On Oct 4, 2021, at 5:03 PM, Gerry Starnes  wrote:
> 
> Re: Gnucash on Mac OS Big Sur
> I recently upgraded from 3.7 to 4.7. I downloaded the DMG, opened it and
> there were several files, including the Gnucash program. I dragged the
> program file directly into the Go > Applications directory and it ran. The
> problem is that it is still connected to the Gnucash-4.7 volume. If I put
> that in the trash, Gnucash won't run.
> 
> When I restarted the computer due to another unrelated issue, I had to dig
> the Gnucash DMG out of the Downloads folder and run it again or the program
> can't be found.
> 
> There must be a step I'm missing, but I can't figure it out. Your help is
> appreciated.

Dunno what you mean by Go > Applications, but if it runs immediately it's not 
copying. Open another Finder window, navigate to Applications in that, and drag 
Gnucash from the dmg window to that window. It should pause for a couple of 
beats then put up a little box showing progress as it copies the app bundle to 
the Applications folder. When that finishes, eject the dmg and launch GnuCash 
from the other Finder window.

Regards,
John Ralls


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[GNC] GnuCash transfer column pull down not working in MATE

[ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user]

Hi All,

Fedora 34
mate-desktop-1.26.0-1.fc34.x86_64
Xfce 4.16
gnucash-4.6-2.fc34.x86_64

GnuCash transfer column pull down not working in MATE:
   https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-desktop/issues/484
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2010544

The drop down arrow at the far right of GnuCash's transfer column does 
not put of a list of transfer account. The problem does not reproduce in 
Xfce (I have both desktops installed)


Anyone have a work around for this.  Otherwise this is
a deal killer for MATE-Desktop

Many thanks,
-T
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Re: [GNC] Help updating from 2.4 to 4.7

[Jim DeLaHunt]

Chris:

By "transfer my files", I take it you want to open your existing 
bookkeeping data files in a new version of GnuCash. Your new version is 
4.7, and the previous version was GnuCash 2.4.


This is answered in the FAQ, "Can a new GnuCash release still read my 
old data file?"



The basic answer is "yes". Gnucash generally reads older data files from 
earlier of its major version, and from the last release of the previous 
major version.  There is no need to export your data from GnuCash 2.4 as 
QIF or CSV.


But you need to (are advised to) do it in stages. First install the last 
GnuCash 2.x release, open your GnuCash data book in that version, and do 
the "Check & Repair" operation. Then install the last GnuCash 3.x 
release, and repeat the process. Finally, install your GnuCash 4.7, and 
repeat the process one last time.


By the way, the most recent GnuCash version is now 4.8. If you are on 
macOS or Windows, this has the same functionality as 4.7. But if you are 
moving to the newest version, you might as well take the newest newest 
version.


Best regards,
    —Jim DeLaHunt

On 2021-10-04 18:31, Chris Brazfield wrote:

Any help to to transfer my files from Gnucash 2.4 to 4.7.  There doesn’t seem 
to be a way to save in 2.4 to QIF. The CVS files in 2.4 don’t align with the 
ones in 4.7 for easy import.

Thanks
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[GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config

[Klaus Dahlke]

Hi,
I run gnucash 4.5 on ArchLinux and compile gnucash from the sources. Yesterday 
I wanted to upgrade/install gnucash 4.8 by:

cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/klaus -G Ninja ..
ninja
ninja install

All went smoothly, but when starting gnucash, the warning/error came up: no 
book found (or similar), i.e., gnucash starts but no accounts, register etc are 
there. I then went to File -> Open' and opened the postgres database. The data 
were read, but not displayed as expected: currency was USD, date format was US, 
 no register color etc. I changed some of Preferences as setting the register 
color scheme to gnucash default, currency to Er, date format etc. But after 
exiting and restarting gnucash, none of the preference settings where save. The 
warning message and teh look and feel was exactly the same as right after 
compile.

I then switched back to gnucash 4.5 by compiling it from the sources by the 
above method and all works fine again.

Did I miss something in the installation procedure or is it worth filing a bug?

Thanks
Klaus
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions do not appear in the register until is pressed

[John Ralls]

> On Oct 4, 2021, at 2:18 PM, David H  wrote:
> 
> The only thing I'm not sure about is what the difference is between clicking 
> Cancel and clicking OK on the popup as I get the txns regardless :-)

Probably because all of your transactions are set to create automatically, so 
the SLR is just telling you that they've been created.

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions do not appear in the register until is pressed

[David H]

John, thanks for the clarification.

Cheers David H.


On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 07:43, John Ralls  wrote:

>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2021, at 2:18 PM, David H  wrote:
> >
> > The only thing I'm not sure about is what the difference is between
> clicking Cancel and clicking OK on the popup as I get the txns regardless
> :-)
>
> Probably because all of your transactions are set to create automatically,
> so the SLR is just telling you that they've been created.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Upgrade installation question

[Gerry Starnes]

Hey John,

What I meant was in the Finder menu, click on go, then open the
Applications option. When I did that, the DMG of the app was there, not the
program.
Of note, I did drag the program file from the folder that opened when I
clicked on the DMG, not the DMG itself. I did that several times. Why that
happened was confounding.

Nonetheless, your suggestion of opening a separate Finder window and
copying from there worked. It DID copy and now runs without the DMG on the
desktop.

Thanks!

Gerry


On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:30 PM john  wrote:

>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2021, at 5:03 PM, Gerry Starnes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Re: Gnucash on Mac OS Big Sur
> > I recently upgraded from 3.7 to 4.7. I downloaded the DMG, opened it and
> > there were several files, including the Gnucash program. I dragged the
> > program file directly into the Go > Applications directory and it ran.
> The
> > problem is that it is still connected to the Gnucash-4.7 volume. If I put
> > that in the trash, Gnucash won't run.
> >
> > When I restarted the computer due to another unrelated issue, I had to
> dig
> > the Gnucash DMG out of the Downloads folder and run it again or the
> program
> > can't be found.
> >
> > There must be a step I'm missing, but I can't figure it out. Your help is
> > appreciated.
>
> Dunno what you mean by Go > Applications, but if it runs immediately it's
> not copying. Open another Finder window, navigate to Applications in that,
> and drag Gnucash from the dmg window to that window. It should pause for a
> couple of beats then put up a little box showing progress as it copies the
> app bundle to the Applications folder. When that finishes, eject the dmg
> and launch GnuCash from the other Finder window.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Column widths-- Help!

[Chris Grinton]

I've been able to get the transfer column back from having it very narrow
like you're seeing by hovering the mouse over the border in the column
headings and double-clicking to auto-size the transfer column - see the
attached screenshot. Whether or not this works appears to depend on very
precise mouse movements - a movement of the mouse cursor one pixel to the
left or right can mean all the difference in whether the double-click works.

(BTW - Double-clicking on a column heading is a great way to auto-size the
column based on its contents - I just learnt that trick recently after many
years of using GnuCash!)

Chris

[image: image.png]

On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 14:29, Steve Miller 
wrote:

> [image: PXL_20211002_170211297.jpg]
> Long time user of GnuCash on Windows laptop, using latest version.
>
> I was trying to widen the transfer column.  In fooling around with it,
> however, I seem to have gone down a rabbit hole.
>
> Now, my description column is extremely wide, my transfer column has
> basically disappeared (yes, I know it's there, but the vertical edges are
> next to the adjoining column and indistinguishable. See the screenshot.
>
> I understand I can't "move" the description column. But whenever I tried to
> move the other columns to the left, it just reduces the width (and like the
> transfer column, seemingly disappears).  How do i shrink the description
> column, double clicking on it does not reset.
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[GNC] Help updating from 2.4 to 4.7

[Chris Brazfield]

Any help to to transfer my files from Gnucash 2.4 to 4.7.  There doesn’t seem 
to be a way to save in 2.4 to QIF. The CVS files in 2.4 don’t align with the 
ones in 4.7 for easy import. 

Thanks 
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions do not appear in the register until is pressed

[David H]

I'm not seeing any of this I don't think on MacOS, Win 10 Pro and Ubuntu
Linux.  I get the "Since last run" window popping up as expected and just
click OK and my txns seem to be in the register, although I generally have
to scroll down to see them as I create them 60 days in advance so maybe
this triggers it for me? The only thing I'm not sure about is what the
difference is between clicking Cancel and clicking OK on the popup as I get
the txns regardless :-)

Cheers David H.


On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 05:08, john  wrote:

> Sure, it will help me not forget. Do a good search first to make sure
> there isn't one already. If you find one put a comment on it that it's
> still a problem with 4.8.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2021, at 6:34 AM, Glenn Fowler  wrote:
> >
> > Everyone,
> >
> > Should I open a bug report? I would think that looking at an incorrect
> > register would be deemed a bug and not a feature request.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 8:03 PM Christina Martin <
> christ...@airgeadstudio.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I agree Glenn. It used to do so.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Christina
> >>
> >> *Christina Martin*
> >> Sent from my device, please excuse any typo's.
> >>
> >> On 4 October 2021 1:27:12 am Glenn Fowler  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Christina,
> >>>
> >>> What you described is the same issue. The only difference is I am
> >>> pressing  and you are closing and reopening the register for the
> >>> scheduled transactions to appear.
> >>>
> >>> The expected behaviour should be for the scheduled transactions to
> appear
> >>> without user input in the register.
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 10:17 PM Christina Martin <
> >>> christ...@airgeadstudio.net> wrote:
> >>>
>  I have a similar problem, although I haven't tried entering a blank
> txn.
>  Another user reported something similar back in February and I tried
> to
>  add
>  my $0.02 worth at the time, but two messages I sent didn't get
> through.
> 
>  In a nutshell, I save the registry, close and reopen it and the txns
>  show up.
> 
>  Below is a copy of the information I tried to send in Feb, setting out
>  the
>  testing I had done.
> 
>  "I tried to send this response to the list 2 days ago, but I haven't
>  seen
>  it come in on the digest, so I must have done something wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  I finally had time to sit down and do some testing and I'm covering
>  things
>  raised and suggested in a variety of digests up to Wed 10/2.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  This odd behaviour started when I was using the previous version, and
> I
>  hoped that the upgrade to the 4.x series would fix it. I *think* I was
>  still on 2.x when I upgraded last year, but I can't be certain of that
>  (the
>  manual update process means I tend to leave it for a while). For a
>  variety
>  of reasons that I don't wish to get into now, I decided to start a new
>  file
>  for the start of the Australian financial year on 1 July 2020. I can't
>  remember exactly what I did except that it involved a blank copy of
> the
>  original account tree. I then manually created all my scheduled
>  transactions to match the original file. I don't know if that means
> that
>  I've somehow imported an old error.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  I'm running GC 4.2 (build 4.2+(2020-09-26) on Windows 10 Home 64 bit
> OS
>  (build 19041.746). The only filters I have set are to hide reconciled
>  txns
>  in each register, and the financial year for Australia.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  The first thing I've noticed is that I don't need to fully close GC to
>  get
>  the scheduled txns to display - closing and reopening the account is
>  sufficient. I tend to keep all 4 personal accounts open all the time
>  inside
>  GC, so I guess I'd potentially have to close and reopen all 4, in
> which
>  case, closing and reopening the entire file is easier.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  I have created a new scheduled txn from a dummy txn in my register. I
>  left
>  "Notify me when created ticked". I saved the file and then ran Actions
>  ->
>  Scheduled Txns -> Since Last Run... I cancelled the Since Last Run
>  window
>  that popped up. The txns did not display until I closed and reopened
> the
>  account register although I could see that the balance in the register
>  changed where the next txn should be showing up. When I click on OK at
>  the
>  Since Last Run window, the full details of the scheduled txns
>  immediately
>  show up in the register. If I click on the "Review Created
> Transactions"
>  check box in the Since Last Run... window and click on OK, the two
> txns
>  that should show up open in a new register window titled Created
>  Transactions *and* I can see them immediately in the account register.
> 
> 
> 

Re: [GNC] GnuCash transfer column pull down not working in MATE

[ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user]

On 10/4/21 18:52, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:

Hi All,

Fedora 34
mate-desktop-1.26.0-1.fc34.x86_64
Xfce 4.16
gnucash-4.6-2.fc34.x86_64

GnuCash transfer column pull down not working in MATE:
    https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-desktop/issues/484
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2010544

The drop down arrow at the far right of GnuCash's transfer column does 
not put of a list of transfer account. The problem does not reproduce in 
Xfce (I have both desktops installed)


Anyone have a work around for this.  Otherwise this is
a deal killer for MATE-Desktop

Many thanks,
-T


I can type the value in manually and it does try
to guess at it.  What down not work is the down
arrow.

And it works perfectly in Xfce 4.16 (I have both
desktops installed).
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[GNC] Upgrade installation question

[Gerry Starnes]

Re: Gnucash on Mac OS Big Sur
I recently upgraded from 3.7 to 4.7. I downloaded the DMG, opened it and
there were several files, including the Gnucash program. I dragged the
program file directly into the Go > Applications directory and it ran. The
problem is that it is still connected to the Gnucash-4.7 volume. If I put
that in the trash, Gnucash won't run.

When I restarted the computer due to another unrelated issue, I had to dig
the Gnucash DMG out of the Downloads folder and run it again or the program
can't be found.

There must be a step I'm missing, but I can't figure it out. Your help is
appreciated.

Gerry
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Re: [GNC] Billing Terms Editor not "sticky"

[John Layman]

The Billing Terms Editor merely allows you to maintain a table of differing
terms.  When an invoice is posted, the applicable terms are those specified
in the Customer (or Vendor) record, which refers to an entry in the Billing
Terms table.

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On Behalf Of Benjamin Soffer
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 1:10 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Billing Terms Editor not "sticky"

Hello,

I am using version 3.8 for Windows.

When I set the invoice "due" period in the Billing Terms Editor (for example
15 days), the system does not "remember" this setting when I post a new
invoice.  The due date remains the same as the post date, by default.  Any
suggestions?

Ben
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions do not appear in the register until is pressed

[john]

Sure, it will help me not forget. Do a good search first to make sure there 
isn't one already. If you find one put a comment on it that it's still a 
problem with 4.8. 

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Oct 4, 2021, at 6:34 AM, Glenn Fowler  wrote:
> 
> Everyone,
> 
> Should I open a bug report? I would think that looking at an incorrect
> register would be deemed a bug and not a feature request.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 8:03 PM Christina Martin 
> wrote:
> 
>> I agree Glenn. It used to do so.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Christina
>> 
>> *Christina Martin*
>> Sent from my device, please excuse any typo's.
>> 
>> On 4 October 2021 1:27:12 am Glenn Fowler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Christina,
>>> 
>>> What you described is the same issue. The only difference is I am
>>> pressing  and you are closing and reopening the register for the
>>> scheduled transactions to appear.
>>> 
>>> The expected behaviour should be for the scheduled transactions to appear
>>> without user input in the register.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 10:17 PM Christina Martin <
>>> christ...@airgeadstudio.net> wrote:
>>> 
 I have a similar problem, although I haven't tried entering a blank txn.
 Another user reported something similar back in February and I tried to
 add
 my $0.02 worth at the time, but two messages I sent didn't get through.
 
 In a nutshell, I save the registry, close and reopen it and the txns
 show up.
 
 Below is a copy of the information I tried to send in Feb, setting out
 the
 testing I had done.
 
 "I tried to send this response to the list 2 days ago, but I haven't
 seen
 it come in on the digest, so I must have done something wrong.
 
 
 
 
 I finally had time to sit down and do some testing and I'm covering
 things
 raised and suggested in a variety of digests up to Wed 10/2.
 
 
 
 
 This odd behaviour started when I was using the previous version, and I
 hoped that the upgrade to the 4.x series would fix it. I *think* I was
 still on 2.x when I upgraded last year, but I can't be certain of that
 (the
 manual update process means I tend to leave it for a while). For a
 variety
 of reasons that I don't wish to get into now, I decided to start a new
 file
 for the start of the Australian financial year on 1 July 2020. I can't
 remember exactly what I did except that it involved a blank copy of the
 original account tree. I then manually created all my scheduled
 transactions to match the original file. I don't know if that means that
 I've somehow imported an old error.
 
 
 
 
 I'm running GC 4.2 (build 4.2+(2020-09-26) on Windows 10 Home 64 bit OS
 (build 19041.746). The only filters I have set are to hide reconciled
 txns
 in each register, and the financial year for Australia.
 
 
 
 
 The first thing I've noticed is that I don't need to fully close GC to
 get
 the scheduled txns to display - closing and reopening the account is
 sufficient. I tend to keep all 4 personal accounts open all the time
 inside
 GC, so I guess I'd potentially have to close and reopen all 4, in which
 case, closing and reopening the entire file is easier.
 
 
 
 
 I have created a new scheduled txn from a dummy txn in my register. I
 left
 "Notify me when created ticked". I saved the file and then ran Actions
 ->
 Scheduled Txns -> Since Last Run... I cancelled the Since Last Run
 window
 that popped up. The txns did not display until I closed and reopened the
 account register although I could see that the balance in the register
 changed where the next txn should be showing up. When I click on OK at
 the
 Since Last Run window, the full details of the scheduled txns
 immediately
 show up in the register. If I click on the "Review Created Transactions"
 check box in the Since Last Run... window and click on OK, the two txns
 that should show up open in a new register window titled Created
 Transactions *and* I can see them immediately in the account register.
 
 
 
 
 David Carlson mentioned that he didn't know what I meant by GC telling
 me
 on start up how many scheduled txns it had created. My scheduled txns
 are
 *always* set to be Enabled (ticked) Create automatically (ticked) Create
 in
 advance 14 days ticked. I always disable Notify me when created (as I
 hadn't noticed until today that was an option to turn off in Edit ->
 Preferences -> Scheduled Transactions - in my defence, I last edited
 them
 several years ago). I created a new scheduled txn according to these
 parameters and I get a pop-up window on start up that says:
 
 
 
 
"There are no Scheduled Transactions to be entered at this time. (2
 transactions automatically created) -> 

Re: [GNC] Searching issues

[Mike via gnucash-user]

I can't think of anything different I've done. I use Cinnamon as my DE. 
I have installed new kernels as they have arrived in my Update Manager, 
but I don't remember if my current problem coincided with a new kernel 
install.


Mike

On 10/3/21 10:18 AM, David Carlson wrote:
It seems odd that a distro release 3.8 would change in Linux Mint when 
it does not in other linux flavors.  Have you changed desktops or ??


On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 10:04 AM Mike via gnucash-user 
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>> wrote:


My distribution is behind on updates as usual. I think I can get 4.0
with the Flatpak version. I would rather use an Appimage, but I don't
think there is one.

Mike

On 10/3/21 9:22 AM, Glenn Fowler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I believe the more robust type-ahead search was added on v4 so have
> you tried updating from v3.8 from 12/2019?
>
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 10:00 AM Mike via gnucash-user
> mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
>> wrote:
>
>     I'm using GNC v3.8 on Linux Mint 20.2. Until recently while
>     entering a
>     transaction as I began typing in the account field GNC would
begin
>     searching for the matching entry. For instance when I began
typing
>     sal... the entries with sal in them (sales:tax) would appear
and I
>     could
>     click on the entry I wanted. That no longer happens and I cannot
>     find a
>     setting to correct it. Any ideas on how to get this back?
>
>     Mike
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