Re: [GNC] Accounting for GST in Australia

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hi Nathan
   Are you using GnuCash to generate your bills & invoices?  If not, when
   making entries directly into your accounts you won't see the GST
   automatically.  When entering invoices & bills you need to check the
   Taxable? & Tax Included? columns
   Otherwise, when making direct entries to your accounts you need to use
   "Splits" and add the GST manually.
   The above may not be clear but once we know more about how you are
   attempting to do things we might be able to help.
   Cheers
   Alan

   On 22/6/21 6:17 pm, Christopher Lam wrote:

Welcome Nathan,
Have you checked out the following?
[1]https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Quickstart_Australian_BAS

On Tue, 22 Jun 2021, 2:59 pm Nathan Ellery, [2] wrote:


Hi,
I have recently started using GnuCash and am having difficulty in
attributing GST to the GST accounts as set up in the chart of accounts. I
have included the relevant posting accounts in the tax table area, but new
entries aren't picking up the GST amount. What am I missing? Do you need to
see screen shots of my setup to verify what I am experiencing?

best regards

Nathan Ellery
Building designer
Grandesign Pty Ltd [3]
m: 0417 951575
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Re: [GNC] Transparent background on selected Transfer choice

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hello all
   I am using PCLinuxOS KDE5 with GNUCash 4.2 and have had the same issues
   with the transparency. The default style for Gnome/GTK applications was
   Breeze so I changed it to Adwaita and the problem has gone.  I wasn't
   that happy with the "look" though so I have since changed the style to
   Numix and all is working well.
   HTH someone.
   Cheers
   Alan

   On 2/6/21 4:27 am, David G. Pickett via gnucash-user wrote:

I do not understand why Ubuntu 20.04 LTS is denied later releases.  How can you
maintain a family of products when you leave some kids behind on the side of the
 road for two years?  I do not care what release number is fixed under.  I do wa
nt the fix to flow to me through the normal channels as an approved, tested vers
ion.  That's not a lot to ask, normally!


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Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 13:46:14 + (UTC)
From: "David G. Pickett" [4]
To: [5]"gnucash-user@gnucash.org" [6]
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I never warmed to flaptak or snap with their huge repositories of historic files
, or compile your own, which means you are off the standard update stream.? (I h
ave compiled personal fixes into many distributed packages, know my way around c
onfigure and all that, but I should not have to go there to get basic good opera
tion of current code.)? I wanted an update on the standard update stream.

The last bug report suggestion does fix it, so it could be distributed with 3.8b
 and possibly other versions to fix this.



Hi David,
I don’t understand your reticence to use flatpak. In my opinion, it is a wonderf
ul way to be able to keep up with latest fixes and features, and also be able to
 run a specific older version if there is an issue that makes the latest and gre
atest no good for your situation, as occasionally happens. Admittedly, there are
 some known issues with flatpak, see [8]https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak#Kn
own_Issues
3.8B as in Ubuntu 20.04 repository is from Dec 2019.There will be no re-release
of such an old version.It may be possible to ship a fix for this problem with th
e next 4.6 release, but I’m not sure there is a mechanism that would enable an u
pdate to an existing gtk css file.Also, doing so may causes problems for users o
f other themes.
Regards, Chris Good
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Re: [GNC] Question about Profit-Loss Report

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hello Howard
   I agree with both Michaels - you need to understand the difference
   between accounting records & reports prepared on an accruals basis vs a
   cash basis. You should do some reading on basic accounting.
   GNUCash used for business uses the accrual basis - (invoices are
   registered in accounts receivable, bills are registered in accounts
   payable).  Depending on the number of invoices & bills involved, you
   may find that you need to develop your own cash report on a
   spreadsheet.
   Some of these links may  be of help to you:
   [1]https://www.accountingtools.com/articles/how-to-convert-accrual-basi
   s-to-cash-basis-accounting.html
   [2]https://www.bookstime.com/articles/accrual-to-cash-conversion
   [3]https://www.double-entry-bookkeeping.com/bookkeeping-basics/accrual-
   to-cash-conversion-excel-worksheet/
   GNUCash is excellent software (a big thank you to the developers!) and
   you can get more understanding of basic accounting and using the
   business features by referring to the Tutorial & Concepts guide:
   [4]https://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?rev=4=C=guide
   I hope that is of some help to you
   Cheers
   Alan

   On 1/6/21 12:42 am, Michael Hendry wrote:

On 31 May 2021, at 15:10, Howard M. Fried [5] wrote:

I have several invoices that were issued in 2020 but paid in 2021. These funds a
re not included in a P report for 2021, apparently because the report is based
 on date of invoice issue, or have I missed something.

Is it possible to get the 2020 Sales that were paid in 2021 into the report for
2021?  Simply extending the Report date range backward is not a solution because
 many invoices that were issued and paid in 2020 will be included.  Or am I to i
nclude unrealized assets for 2020 as profit, like the P report does (I have no
 accounting, financial, or legal experience in such matters).

Thank you for considering,
Howard Fried

Not an accountant either, Howard, but I believe the approach varies according to
 whether your books are kept on a cash or an accrual basis.

If cash, then reports are based on the date when you received income, or the dat
e you made a payment for expenses.

I don’t use the business features, but I think that you will be working on an ac
crual basis, and have reports on Accounts Receivable and Accounts Payable which
carry over the end of the financial year.

Michael


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Re: [GNC] Accounting for GST in Australia

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hello again Nathan
   Unfortunately I am not quite sure of the set-up you have so it is hard
   to comment.
   However, have you set up GST as a Liability Account parent account
   Liabilities and the GST Received sub-account using the GST liability
   account as "parent"?  If you haven't done that then the transaction GST
   transaction will not be entered in the ledger.
   Sorry if the above is a bit garbled but I'm in a rush!
   Good luck!
   Cheers
   Alan

   On 22/6/21 11:49 pm, Nathan Ellery wrote:

   Hello Alan Thanks for your reply.
   We are aware of the need to split transactions not entered as bills or
   invoices.
   However, we are entering invoices through the invoicing system within
   Gnucash, and the tax amount shows correctly on the actual invoice
   entry, but the amount of tax is not going to the GST accounts on the
   chart of accounts. How can we check the set-up to determine exactly why
   this is or what do we need to do in order to make the GST go to that
   account in the chart of accounts?
   Appreciate your help on this,
   And thanks Christopher, yes we did read that article but it doesn't
   seem to be working correctly.
   regards Nathan
   On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 5:23 PM Alan Hopkins <[1]hopp...@gmail.com>
   wrote:

   Hi Nathan
   Are you using GnuCash to generate your bills & invoices?  If not, when
   making entries directly into your accounts you won't see the GST
   automatically.  When entering invoices & bills you need to check the
   Taxable? & Tax Included? columns
   Otherwise, when making direct entries to your accounts you need to use
   "Splits" and add the GST manually.
   The above may not be clear but once we know more about how you are
   attempting to do things we might be able to help.
   Cheers
   Alan
   On 22/6/21 6:17 pm, Christopher Lam wrote:

Welcome Nathan,
Have you checked out the following?
[2]https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Quickstart_Australian_BAS

On Tue, 22 Jun 2021, 2:59 pm Nathan Ellery, [3] wrote:

Hi,
I have recently started using GnuCash and am having difficulty in
attributing GST to the GST accounts as set up in the chart of accounts. I
have included the relevant posting accounts in the tax table area, but new
entries aren't picking up the GST amount. What am I missing? Do you need to
see screen shots of my setup to verify what I am experiencing?
best regards
Nathan Ellery
Building designer
Grandesign Pty Ltd [4]<http://grandesignwa.blogspot.com.au/>
m: 0417 951575
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Re: [GNC] How do I get the 3D Interface look - Take 2?

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hi Viking
   Perhaps this link might help you:
   [1]https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Diagrams_-_Windows
   Looks like it is in \AppData\Roaming\GnuCash   ... but I don't
   use Windoze
   HTH
   Cheers
   Alan

   On 15/3/21 8:23 pm, viking wrote:

Parker Graham-2 wrote

I wondered the same thing about the 3D look and came to the conclusion
that I would have to set my whole Linux theme to achieve this but I don’t
want my whole system to look like windows so here is what I did in GTK to
make things look good and function well
Not sure where Windows keeps the .css files
Hope this helps

Parker

@Parker,
Thanks for the file. However, I am also not sure where to put it in Windows
(WIN7)?
There is a file here:
\gnucash\share\themes\Emacs\gtk-3.0\gtk-keys.css
I tried to replace it with your file but it didn't change anything, so this
is obviously not the correct location...

Could someone please help with the windows location for the CSS file?




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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

[Alan Hopkins]

This link identifies file locations
https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/basics-migrate-settings.html

Hope that helps.

Alan

On Sat, 13 Mar. 2021, 9:16 pm Stephen C. Camidge, 
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> I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
>
> I copied over the datafile, no problem.
>
> How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
>
> Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is
> there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
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Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hi all
   I'm new to GNU Cash but I just tested a method that worked and I think
   is valid.
   I went to the client's invoice and paid the full amount ($120) which
   then was entered by GNUCash into the Accounts Receivable.
   I then went into the Accounts Receivable account, located the payment,
   looked at the Splits (DR $120 Assets:CashOnHand, CR $120 A/R) and
   changed the splits to be Debit CashOnHand $60 Debit Bad Debts $60
   Credit Accounts Receivable $120.
   The invoice is recorded as paid and no longer appears in reminders and
   all the accounts are in the correct state.
   Maybe that may be of help!
   Cheers
   Alan

   On 8/3/21 4:06 pm, Keith Fetterman wrote:

I recall the original question was how to make the open invoices disappear from
the “Due Invoices Reminder” dialog.  Based on the explanation below, do the open
 invoices still appear in the dialog?  If so, how does one make them disappear?




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There is no need to zero out the invoice. It remains as it originally was and
the debt remains on the books.  What the debt write off does is correct your
income for the amount of income you expected to but didn't receive and
adjusts the accounts receivable to reflect that you do not expect to receive
that income.

If you cancel out the invoice and at some future time the client coughs up
the money, you will have no way of accounting for how that money was
received but a simple adjustment allows you to reverse the bad debt write
off and then record the payment against the original invoice.

When you make a payment against an invoice normally, you do not change the
amount of the invoice, itself but you increase the amount of an asset(bank
account) and decrease the amount of the Accounts receivable (also an asset )
by the same amount.

The invoice creates an increase in an income account  and an increase in the
Accounts receivable when it is posted to you accounts. In the case of a bad
debt you do not adjust the income but an expense account which has the same
effect on your profit. Expense accounts can be regarded as contra income
accounts.

This way your accounts contain a record of the events as they affected your
finances at the time the events occurred. If they are annotated well enough
anyone can reconstruct the sequence of events as recorded

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?

[Alan Hopkins]

Fair comment Adrien.

On Tue, 9 Mar. 2021, 2:55 am Adrien Monteleone, <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> You should refrain from making manual entries or edits in AR/AP. It
> isn't that you can't or that anything will blow up, but you may forget
> that the Business Features will not see those edits/transactions where
> you might expect them to.
>
> If you really need to make manual edits/entries, create an 'Other AR/AP'
> account, as a child of the main account, and make sure it is of type
> 'Asset/Liability' and *not* of type 'AR/AP'. (there can be only 1 of
> each of those)
>
> With the method listed below, the Business Features (and their reports)
> 'think' the customer paid when they did not.
>
> See my other reply describing how to close these out properly in GnuCash.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 3/8/21 2:33 AM, Alan Hopkins wrote:
> > Hi all
> > I'm new to GNU Cash but I just tested a method that worked and I
> think
> > is valid.
> > I went to the client's invoice and paid the full amount ($120) which
> > then was entered by GNUCash into the Accounts Receivable.
> > I then went into the Accounts Receivable account, located the
> payment,
> > looked at the Splits (DR $120 Assets:CashOnHand, CR $120 A/R) and
> > changed the splits to be Debit CashOnHand $60 Debit Bad Debts $60
> > Credit Accounts Receivable $120.
> > The invoice is recorded as paid and no longer appears in reminders
> and
> > all the accounts are in the correct state.
> > Maybe that may be of help!
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Re: [GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6 still..)

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hi Doug
   Nice to hear from another Aussie PCLOS & GNUCash user!
   I have the same version of GNC as you (as that's what is in the repo!)
   - I haven't been using GNC for long but I set the accounting period in
   the Preferences as Absolute to 1st July 20 to 30 Jun 21 (ie last fin
   year) and it defaults the reports (Beginning & End of Accounting
   Period) to the correct dates.  I will need to change that for this fin.
   year (and those that follow) as it is an absolute setting but I don't
   see that as problem.
   Another alternative would be to set the dates in the Report Options and
   then save that report configuration so when you use it the report has
   the default settings you want.
   But I guess you know all the above being a long-time GNC user!
   My thanks to the GNUCash gurus, facilitators & fixers - GNC is a
   terrific resource!!
   Cheers
   Hop

   On 9/10/21 10:25, Doug wrote:

Hi,
 has anyone changed the default accounting period in the reports window?
 Currently they are set to 1 Jan to 31 Dec. Australian Tax year is 1 July to 30
June.

 I know I can set them report by report, but it would be nice to change the defa
ults.

 I am currently using ver 4,6 on Linux (PCLinuxOS, which I have been using for y
ears & love!)

regards, Doug (Long time Gnucash user & appreciator!)
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Re: [GNC] Tax and Budget Reporting

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hi there
   I may not have fully understood but you just run a transaction report
   on your bank accounts (select you bank accounts in Options)?  That will
   give you deposits & withdrawals including tax.  If you want to know the
   totals for specific accounts (eg donations) you can just filter that
   report by using the account filter in the options box.
   I hope that helps.
   Cheers
   Hop

   On 6/10/21 23:14, GnuCash Charity User wrote:

Sorry if I wasn't clear, don't need to budget for taxes themselves, but
taxes included in line X. So if I budget $150, that's including tax paid,
hence want ability to report combined.

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 01:32, flywire [1] wrote:


Your reports show Expense:X and Asset:Tax Collected (but not reimbursed).
Why do you want to budget for tax if it is reimbursed with a net cost of
zero?


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Re: [GNC] Expenses by Account

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hello Tom
   It's fairly straightforward, if I understand you correctly.
   There are several ways to achieve this but possibly the easiest is to
   choose the Income Statement (MultiColumn) report, then in the report
   Options go to the Accounts tab and select Clear All then scroll though
   you accounts list and Highlight/Select the Expenses Account (this is
   usually a Placeholder), then Select Children (this will select all the
   Expenses sub-accounts), then go to the General tab, for Period Duration
   select Half Year (or one of the periods in the drop down), then Select
   your start and end dates, Apply and you should see something like what
   you are after.  You can clean it up through Options, Display, uncheck
   "Include accounts with zero total balances".
   Have a play and discover how things work - once you have the report as
   you want you can save it using "Save Config As" eg "6 monthly expense
   comparison" or whatever.
   The important thing is to have a play with the Options so that you
   learn, rather than being told, how to do it.
   Enjoy GnuCash - I love it!  Big thanks to the developers and
   maintainers!!
   Cheers
   Hop

   On 7/9/23 11:07, Tom Balazs wrote:

What is the best report to use if I want to show all my expenses for
TimePeriodX broken down by account (e.g. Expense:Groceries, Expense:Auto,
Expense:Restaurant).
And how do I view trends over time (e.g. last month "Expense:Restaurant"
seemed high, but show me "Expense:Restaurant" each month for the past 6
months).

Tom
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Re: [GNC] Australian Accountants familiar with GNUCash

[Alan Hopkins]

Agreed Suzie! That folder of info is really all you need!! 

Cheers

On Fri, 27 Oct 2023, 7:46 am Susie Godden,  wrote:

> I agree with you Alan, I do the bookkeeping work and my accountant uses P
> and Balance Sheet that I send him at the end of the year.
>
> Perhaps it depends on the size of the business but often one also needs to
> supply bank statement reconciliations for end of year tax returns too, but
> gnucash can do those too.
>
> I save the years invoices, bank statements, bank recs, wage information,
> receipts  etc into one folder during the year that I can then share with
> the accountant at the years end (thats for businesses that I bookkeeper for
> - unfortunately they mostly have their accounts on proprietary cloud
> accounting software - unless I can persuade them otherwise)
>
> Good luck
> Susie
>
>
> On Wed, 25 Oct. 2023, 9:27 pm flywire,  wrote:
>
> >
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-October/109255.html
> > Alan Hopkins wrote:
> > > I know an accountant who has, for at least one business, accepted
> printed
> > P & Balance Sheet from a 2002 version of Quickbooks together with end
> of
> > year bank statements - he has never wanted to get the info on disk/USB as
> > his lackies just enter the financial data (from P & Balance Sheet) into
> > their software and check bank balances etc, so the same should be
> > achievable for GNUCash.
> >
> > lol, That's my accountant, tells me what reports and documents he wants
> > (which also includes a transaction statement and a summary spreadsheet
> for
> > various entities). He's a tax accountant and not interested in doing
> > bookkeeping. I value his advice more than getting the tax forms filled
> out.
> >
> > I'd suggest looking for a bookkeeper or someone with a finance/admin
> > background. People know what their interests are and the right person
> would
> > pick up GnuCash soon enough. It could be a good work from home job.
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Re: [GNC] Australian Accountants familiar with GNUCash

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hello Michael
   That's a very common story with accountants in Australia these days -
   they have often put themselves into a relationship with Xero, MYOB or
   Reckon and prefer you to use "their" system.
   Unfortunately, I don't know of the existence of any such list
   I know an accountant who has, for at least one business, accepted
   printed P & Balance Sheet from a 2002 version of Quickbooks together
   with end of year bank statements - he has never wanted to get the info
   on disk/USB as his lackies just enter the financial data (from P &
   Balance Sheet) into their software and check bank balances etc, so the
   same should be achievable for GNUCash.  Other documentation such as a
   Trial Balance (to show accounts are balanced) can also be easily
   generated from GNUCash.
   I also know a small not-for-profit charity that keeps their books with
   GNUCash and it is perfectly acceptable for their situation - with that
   one, however, I happen to be acting as their accountant! (this is not a
   commercial for my services by the way!)
   Keep in mind that you might be able to export the financial data in a
   form which the accountant could then import into her/his software, so
   it might be worth asking her/him what format is acceptable - that way
   you may avoid labour charges for keying in data.
   Perhaps you might need to look for another, possibly small, accountancy
   firm?
   Sorry I couldn't be of more help - someone like Flywire might have
   suggestions for you or know of such a list.
   Good luck!
   Cheers
   Hop

   On 25/10/23 13:41, Michael Campbell via gnucash-user wrote:

Is there a list of Accountants for each country looking for work that is
familiar with GNUCash?

I just got off the phone from an accountant that had agreed to take on
my company to find out he still has not done anything and said it was
going to be expensive due to his unfamiliarity with GNUCash, and that
they are already behind with their existing workload.

So - Is there any accountants on the list looking for work with all my
book keeping up to date in GNUCash?

Michael


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Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.4 Released

[Alan Hopkins]

   I'll second that.
   I hope you guys go to the blood bank because your blood is definitely
   worth bottling!!

   On 25/9/23 07:47, Jediator wrote:

 Thanks John and the GC team for all your hard work and dedication!
 On 9/24/23 5:26 PM, John Ralls wrote:

 The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 5.4, the fifth
 release in the stable 5.x series
 Between 5.3 and 5.4, the following bugfixes were accomplished:
  Bug 728875 - Back button does not work in QIF import assistant
  Bug 797507 - GnuCash Splash screen may disappear before the
 main window appears
  Bug 798709 - Total(Period) column does not refresh period's
 value after update of the period in settings.a>
  Bug 798904 - GnuCash on Windows opens a CMD window at startup.
  Bug 798925 - Python bindings: "invalid unclassed pointer in
 cast to 'QofInstance'".
  Bug 798944 - Program crashes when matching transactions
  Bug 798950 - Bug Report: Incorrect Currency Conversion and
 Provider Invoice Payment Recording
  When balancing lots use the split amount, not the value
  Recalculate the values using deduced exchange rates after
 adjusting split amounts.
  Be conservative when recalculating values after breaking up
 a split to avoid imbalances caused by rounding.
  Bug 798958 - gncScrubLotLinks will infinite loop in some
 conditions
  Bug 798982 - GetQuotes crashes if Finance::Quote returns an
 empty date.
  Bug 798983 - Empty Orphan account appears after entering
 transactions in 5.3
  Bug 798990 - Notes No Longer Autofills
  Bug 798991 - Incorrect Account Name Order in Transaction Report
  Bug 798995 - Keystrokes ignored during ledger entry
  Bug 798998 - Job Report Not Working
  Bug 799004 - Update of Prices attaches incorrect Date
  Bug 799010 - gnc-register-account-sel-limited-option errors
 doesn't work
  Bug 799020 - widget of gnc-register-list-option disregards
 user's clicks
  Bug 799021 - Saved report renders default of
 gnc-register-list-option
  Bug 799036 - Import prices from a CSV date problem
  Bug 799039 - gnc:strify produces unusual results or crashes
 GnuCash when fed an option from gnc-lookup-option
  Bug 799048 - Hover on tab not correct
  Bug 799051 - Shortcut Ctrl + Tab not working in 5.3
  Bug 799054 - Stock Assist not functioning
  Bug 799060 - Consistent Crash in Invoices
  Bug 799068 - csv export active register not working
  Bug 799069 - Multicurrency Invoice Payment
  Bug 799075 - Saving display tab changes in Report Options does
 not work.
  Bug 799084 - Unable to create new scheduled transaction
 The following fixes and improvements were not associated with bug
 reports:
  [import-main-matcher.cpp] After clicking/toggling A/U+C/C
 checkbox, reselect the row because it'll be much faster to use
 keyboard navigation -- use up/down/left/right to target desired
 checkbox, hit   repeatedly to repeat the same action
 over several consecutive rows.
  Implement support for !Type:Prices records in the QIF importer.
  Modernize construction of GObjects using G_DECLARE_DERIVABLE,
 G_DECLARE_FINAL, etc.
  Fix yet more leaks.
  [DBI backend] Change DBI test URLs to environment variables
 from cmake configuration definitions.
  Restore the Stock Transaction Assistant to full operation.
  Fix the Fancy Date file property so that it saves.
  Fix formatting error in po files project-id line.
  [simple-business-create.py] Overwrite an existing file instead
 of crashing.
  Update github action package versions.
  Add parsing mixed number and fraction (e.g. 10 1/2) to the
 gnc_numeric string constructor.
  Bump minimum cmake version to 3.14 and drop some conditionals
 for older versions
  Major speedup in the SQLBackend by replacing C++ exceptions
 with std::optional for null values.
  Refresh the GUI on completion of the import matcher so that the
 imports are immediately reflected in the register.
  Improve online quote retrieval error reporting.
  Test loading and saving XML files with and without compression
  [import-main-matcher] always defer_bal_computation during
 import to speed up both importing new transactions, and destroying
 existing ones.
  GncGtkListUIItem::set_option_from_ui_item: Iterate over
 selected items Instead of all possible items.
  Convert gnc-ofx-import.c, import-parse.c, import-utilities.c,
 import-format-dialog.c, import-account-matcher.c,
 import-commodity-matcher.c, import-settings.c,
 import-pending-matches.c, import-match-picker.c,
 

Re: [GNC] Printing/Exporting Invoices to PDF

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hello Waltr
   Choose Print and then print to a file of type pdf.
   Hope that helps
   Alan

   On 14/9/22 01:27, Waltr via gnucash-user wrote:

Dear gnucash users:

I have recently upgraded from 3.11 to 4.11. I have also recently been using the
3.11 Invoice "Export" button to export these invoices to .pdf files.

With the change to 4.11 the program now exports to .html files which cannot be u
sed.

How do I re-configure v4.11 to behave the same way on invoice export or get it t
o permit .pdf exports. We cannot use the .html as it will at least quadruple the
 time to produce a .pdf useable file.
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Re: [GNC] Why does "Managed Document Link" send me to the wrong directory?

[Alan Hopkins]

Hi David
Merry Christmas.
You change the default attachment location in preferences. You appear to be
changing it as per individual file which is ok if the attachments are all
in different locations

I'm not at my computer right now otherwise I could tell you exactly where

All the best - &  I just love GNC - many many thanks & Merry Christmas to
all the dev's & support people & best wishes for 2023

Cheers
Hop

Sent from my unbelievably smart phone

On Sun, 25 Dec. 2022, 6:20 pm Dr. David Kirkby, <
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:

> I'm using GnuCash 4.12 on Ubuntu 20.04 Linux. When trying to attach a file,
> the GnuCash GUI sent me to $HOME/Downloads. So I changed that to
> /home/drkirkby/accounts/receipts-and-invoices. However, whenever I try to
> attach a document, it starts from $HOME (/home/drkirkby/) rather than
> /home/drkirkby/accounts/receipts-and-invoices. So I have to navigate to
> /home/drkirkby/accounts/receipts-and-invoices each time. It's not a big
> inconvenience, but I'm wondering why this is. Please see the attachments.
> The numbers 1, 2 and 3 indicate the order I took the screenshots.
>
> Dr David Kirkby Ph.D
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> https://www.kirkbymicrowave.co.uk/
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Re: [GNC] Why does "Managed Document Link" send me to the wrong directory?

[Alan Hopkins]

Oops... sorry. I see you have changed the path head in preferences -
apologies for the confusion
Not sure what is happening there as it works ok on linux for me.

Cheers
Hop

Sent from my unbelievably smart phone

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> Hi David
> Merry Christmas.
> You change the default attachment location in preferences. You appear to
> be changing it as per individual file which is ok if the attachments are
> all in different locations
>
> I'm not at my computer right now otherwise I could tell you exactly where
>
> All the best - &  I just love GNC - many many thanks & Merry Christmas to
> all the dev's & support people & best wishes for 2023
>
> Cheers
> Hop
>
> Sent from my unbelievably smart phone
>
> On Sun, 25 Dec. 2022, 6:20 pm Dr. David Kirkby, <
> drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I'm using GnuCash 4.12 on Ubuntu 20.04 Linux. When trying to attach a
>> file,
>> the GnuCash GUI sent me to $HOME/Downloads. So I changed that to
>> /home/drkirkby/accounts/receipts-and-invoices. However, whenever I try to
>> attach a document, it starts from $HOME (/home/drkirkby/) rather than
>> /home/drkirkby/accounts/receipts-and-invoices. So I have to navigate to
>> /home/drkirkby/accounts/receipts-and-invoices each time. It's not a big
>> inconvenience, but I'm wondering why this is. Please see the attachments.
>> The numbers 1, 2 and 3 indicate the order I took the screenshots.
>>
>> Dr David Kirkby Ph.D
>> Email: drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk Web:
>> https://www.kirkbymicrowave.co.uk/
>> Kirkby Microwave Ltd (Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100)
>> Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT.
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Re: [GNC] Start and End of Quarter Dates Incorrect - a Bug?

[Alan Hopkins]

   PS  Using start of accounting period to end of accounting period seems
   to work OK, so it just looks like the Quarter is out.  I haven't tried
   it, but if you have a whole lot of reports to do for the last Q, it
   might be easier to set the accounting period once in GNC Preferences so
   you can choose that quickly in Report Options - that way you only make
   one change rather than potentially many more

   On 11/2/24 16:15, Jay McSkimming wrote:

GnC 5.5
Mac OS Sonoma 14.2.1

Running a PNL for previous quarter, the report runs for incorrect dates namely s
tarting a month early and ending a month early.  Similar results for Cash Flow,
Income etc.

Seems to me that there’s a bug in calculating these dates correctly.  Runs corre
ctly if dates are manually entered but that defeats the purpose of the system va
riables.

I’ve set absolute dates for Start and End of Accounting Period as below as that
suits what I’m doing currently but makes no difference if it is the current FYE
30-6-2024.



When I run PNL report for previous quarter ie what should be 1/10/2023 to 31/12/
2023, the report is a month out ie a month early.











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Re: [GNC] Start and End of Quarter Dates Incorrect - a Bug?

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hi Jay
   GNC 5.5 and PCLinuxOS here - the same thing occurs for me too.
   So I just use the to & from dates to set it right.  But it does appear
   to be a bug as it was working correctly before 5.5.
   I will check later (tomorrow) to see if my install on another machine
   running Fedora 38 does the same thing.
   Cheers
   Hop

   On 11/2/24 16:15, Jay McSkimming wrote:

GnC 5.5
Mac OS Sonoma 14.2.1

Running a PNL for previous quarter, the report runs for incorrect dates namely s
tarting a month early and ending a month early.  Similar results for Cash Flow,
Income etc.

Seems to me that there’s a bug in calculating these dates correctly.  Runs corre
ctly if dates are manually entered but that defeats the purpose of the system va
riables.

I’ve set absolute dates for Start and End of Accounting Period as below as that
suits what I’m doing currently but makes no difference if it is the current FYE
30-6-2024.



When I run PNL report for previous quarter ie what should be 1/10/2023 to 31/12/
2023, the report is a month out ie a month early.











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Re: [GNC] Change Printed Invoice

[Alan Hopkins]

Yep - it is as easy as John says. And I can clarify there is no issue in
Australia with having "Tax Invoice" on invoices below $1000. Go to the
supermarket or buy fuel and the machine docket will say Tax Invoice no
matter what you spend because it will indicate how much , if any, Goods &
Services Tax (GST) is included.
Lester - the information about your legal requirements with invoicing is
readily available - see
https://www.ato.gov.au/businesses-and-organisations/gst-excise-and-indirect-taxes/gst/tax-invoices#ato-Salesunder1000
Cheers.
Hop

On Wed, 7 Feb 2024, 5:29 am Glenn Fowler,  wrote:

> Thank you John, we learn new goodies everyday!
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024, 12:46 PM john  wrote:
>
> > Editing the code is unnecessary.
> >
> > After clicking the Print button you'll get an invoice report tab with the
> > invoice. Open report options and enter Tax Invoice in the Custom Title
> > field of the General tab, then click Apply or OK.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> > > On Feb 6, 2024, at 06:27, Glenn Fowler  wrote:
> > >
> > > You can edit invoice.scm and replace "Invoice" with "Tax Invoice". All
> > > invoices after will say "Tax Invoice".
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 2:42 AM Lester Bennett <
> lesterbenne...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Apparently Australian Tax Law requires an invoice over AU$1000 to be
> > >> titled Tax Invoice. How can I change the  default first line of a
> > >> printable invoice to read "Tax Invoice #"?
> > >> At present I save to a pdf then edit it with a pdf editor but it would
> > >> be simpler to have it read correctly from the start.
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Re: [GNC] Have I got my USD accounts set up wrong?

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hello David
   We receive and pay for a multitude of currencies.  This made life
   complicated for a small business so we decided to use a FX service - we
   use OFX because we managed to get to them in their early days and were
   offered a special continuing deal.
   However, there are quite a few others too - TransferWise (now just
   called Wise) were probably the initiators in this area.
   The way it works is that we tell them what we need to pay in FX, we pay
   in our local currency and the bill is paid to the supplier in their
   currency.  On the receipt side, the client pays into a bank account
   local to them, the OFX service notifies us of the receipt, and then we
   can either convert to our local currency immediately or at some time
   over the next 2 months when we wish - this has an advantage (generally)
   in being able to get a more favourable exchange rate and thus a better
   return.
   The service costs less than banks - they provide a better exchange rate
   and have lower fees - and our accounts are all in local currency.  We
   just adjust our invoices/bills according to the rate received/paid.
   Easy peasy.
   I'm not sure that will help you but it just might!
   Cheers
   Hop

   On 30/11/23 11:05, David Kirkby wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 23:28, Adrien Monteleone <
[1]adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:


You can set your bank accounts nested however you want. GnuCash doesn't
care as there is nothing special about such accounts.

Gnucash *does* care about types Accounts Receivable and Accounts
Payable. (regardless of what you name them)

But exactly how these should be structured is still to be determined.

Regards,
Adrien



Is it possible, and so how, to move the A/R USD account directly under the
assets and not under the GBP account? When I set up accounts like that, the
P and trial balance agreed with each other.

I am still puzzled it’s now possible to delete a non-GBP transaction that
has been posted.  I think that’s a new problem , within the last day or
two.  I would need to go back to an earlier version to be sure.

I charge customer extra for non-GBP transactions, anti always say GBP will
be cheaper. They certainly do cause an extra overhead with software issues,
accounting issues, the need to maintain 3 price lists.

A few years ago I reported a bug to the bug tracker related to non-GBP
currencies. I think it was a report that was wrong, but that issue got
resolved.

Dave.




On 11/29/23 5:05 PM, David Kirkby wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 23:02, David Kirkby <

[2]drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk>

wrote:


But think about it, the fact one is supposed to set bank accounts that
way, probably implies one needs to do the same with A/P and A/R.

Dave.


I meant to say “thinking about it “  not “think about it “

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Re: [GNC] No such file or directory error finding libgnc-expressions-guile.so

[Alan Hopkins]

   Glad it worked John!
   Enjoy!!

   On 26/1/24 12:26, John Haiducek wrote:

   Thanks Alan, that did the trick. I had previously tried "dnf reinstall"
   and that didn't fix it, but per your suggestion I uninstalled gnucash
   and then reinstalled using dnf and now it's working again.

   On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 5:36 PM Alan Hopkins <[1]hopp...@gmail.com>
   wrote:

   I am using GnuCash on Fed38 too. I seem to remember when I installed it
   via the Software Centre it didn't install properly (ie some
   dependencies were missing) so I uninstalled, updated all and
   reinstalled via CLI and it runs like a dream. Maybe do what I did? Hope
   that is of some help
   Cheers
   Hop

   On Fri, 26 Jan 2024, 4:49 am John Haiducek, <[2]jhaid...@gmail.com>
   wrote:

 I upgraded a bunch of packages using the PackageKit GUI and offline
 update,
 and gnucash was one of them. Software Center indicated that the
 system was
 fully updated afterward.
 On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:46 AM Derek Atkins <[3]de...@ihtfp.com>
 wrote:
 > Correct, it would say something like that.
 > Now, it could be that there is a sub-library missing.  I.e. this
 library
 > looks for libfoo.so (which it finds), but libfoo.so depends on
 libbar.so,
 > and THAT is missing.  ldd would not show that.
 >
 > So, question for you:  did you do a full system update, or did you
 JUST
 > update the gnucash packages?  I only ask because I am running F38
 and I
 > have GnuCash 5.5 running just fine.
 >
 > -derek
 >
 > On Thu, January 25, 2024 11:33 am, John Haiducek wrote:
 > > Here's the output from ldd. IIRC, missing dependencies would
 show up here
 > > as something like "=> Not found". It looks like everything here
 points to
 > > a
 > > specific file.
 > >
 > > $ ldd /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-expressions-guile.so
 > > linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffe3cf5a000)
 > > libgnc-expressions.so =>
 /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-expressions.so
 > > (0x7ff5df86a000)
 > > libguile-3.0.so.1 => /lib64/libguile-3.0.so.1
 (0x7ff5df6e3000)
 > > libgnc-engine.so => /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-engine.so
 > > (0x7ff5df20)
 > > libglib-2.0.so.0 => /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff5df59a000)
 > > libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x7ff5df022000)
 > > libgnucash-guile.so => /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnucash-guile.so
 > > (0x7ff5def0a000)
 > > libgnc-app-utils.so => /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-app-utils.so
 > > (0x7ff5df504000)
 > > libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
 (0x7ff5deeaa000)
 > > libgnc-core-utils.so => /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-core-utils.so
 > > (0x7ff5dee6e000)
 > > libgc.so.1 => /lib64/libgc.so.1 (0x7ff5ded2c000)
 > > libffi.so.8 => /lib64/libffi.so.8 (0x7ff5df4f8000)
 > > libunistring.so.2 => /lib64/libunistring.so.2
 (0x7ff5deb7e000)
 > > libgmp.so.10 => /lib64/libgmp.so.10 (0x7ff5dead9000)
 > > libcrypt.so.2 => /lib64/libcrypt.so.2 (0x7ff5deaa)
 > > libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x7ff5de9bf000)
 > > /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7ff5df88a000)
 > > libicui18n.so.72 => /lib64/libicui18n.so.72 (0x7ff5de60)
 > > libicuuc.so.72 => /lib64/libicuuc.so.72 (0x7ff5de20)
 > > libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so.0
 (0x7ff5df4ed000)
 > > libstdc++.so.6 => /lib64/libstdc++.so.6 (0x7ff5dde0)
 > > libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x7ff5de99b000)
 > > libpcre2-8.so.0 => /lib64/libpcre2-8.so.0 (0x7ff5de566000)
 > > libgio-2.0.so.0 => /lib64/libgio-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff5ddc2d000)
 > > libboost_filesystem.so.1.78.0 =>
 /lib64/libboost_filesystem.so.1.78.0
 > > (0x7ff5de979000)
 > > libboost_locale.so.1.78.0 => /lib64/libboost_locale.so.1.78.0
 > > (0x7ff5de4c4000)
 > > libicudata.so.72 => /lib64/libicudata.so.72 (0x7ff5dbe0)
 > > libz.so.1 => /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x7ff5de95f000)
 > > libmount.so.1 => /lib64/libmount.so.1 (0x7ff5de47e000)
 > > libselinux.so.1 => /lib64/libselinux.so.1 (0x7ff5de451000)
 > > libboost_atomic.so.1.78.0 => /lib64/libboost_atomic.so.1.78.0
 > > (0x7ff5de955000)
 > > libboost_system.so.1.78.0 => /lib64/libboost_system.so.1.78.0
 > > (0x7ff5de95)
 > > libboost_thread.so.1.78.0 => /lib64/libboost_thread.so.1.78.0
 > > (0x

Re: [GNC] No such file or directory error finding libgnc-expressions-guile.so

[Alan Hopkins]

I am using GnuCash on Fed38 too. I seem to remember when I installed it via
the Software Centre it didn't install properly (ie some dependencies were
missing) so I uninstalled, updated all and reinstalled via CLI and it runs
like a dream. Maybe do what I did? Hope that is of some help
Cheers
Hop

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024, 4:49 am John Haiducek,  wrote:

> I upgraded a bunch of packages using the PackageKit GUI and offline update,
> and gnucash was one of them. Software Center indicated that the system was
> fully updated afterward.
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:46 AM Derek Atkins  wrote:
>
> > Correct, it would say something like that.
> > Now, it could be that there is a sub-library missing.  I.e. this library
> > looks for libfoo.so (which it finds), but libfoo.so depends on libbar.so,
> > and THAT is missing.  ldd would not show that.
> >
> > So, question for you:  did you do a full system update, or did you JUST
> > update the gnucash packages?  I only ask because I am running F38 and I
> > have GnuCash 5.5 running just fine.
> >
> > -derek
> >
> > On Thu, January 25, 2024 11:33 am, John Haiducek wrote:
> > > Here's the output from ldd. IIRC, missing dependencies would show up
> here
> > > as something like "=> Not found". It looks like everything here points
> to
> > > a
> > > specific file.
> > >
> > > $ ldd /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-expressions-guile.so
> > > linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffe3cf5a000)
> > > libgnc-expressions.so => /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-expressions.so
> > > (0x7ff5df86a000)
> > > libguile-3.0.so.1 => /lib64/libguile-3.0.so.1 (0x7ff5df6e3000)
> > > libgnc-engine.so => /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-engine.so
> > > (0x7ff5df20)
> > > libglib-2.0.so.0 => /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff5df59a000)
> > > libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x7ff5df022000)
> > > libgnucash-guile.so => /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnucash-guile.so
> > > (0x7ff5def0a000)
> > > libgnc-app-utils.so => /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-app-utils.so
> > > (0x7ff5df504000)
> > > libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff5deeaa000)
> > > libgnc-core-utils.so => /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-core-utils.so
> > > (0x7ff5dee6e000)
> > > libgc.so.1 => /lib64/libgc.so.1 (0x7ff5ded2c000)
> > > libffi.so.8 => /lib64/libffi.so.8 (0x7ff5df4f8000)
> > > libunistring.so.2 => /lib64/libunistring.so.2 (0x7ff5deb7e000)
> > > libgmp.so.10 => /lib64/libgmp.so.10 (0x7ff5dead9000)
> > > libcrypt.so.2 => /lib64/libcrypt.so.2 (0x7ff5deaa)
> > > libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x7ff5de9bf000)
> > > /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7ff5df88a000)
> > > libicui18n.so.72 => /lib64/libicui18n.so.72 (0x7ff5de60)
> > > libicuuc.so.72 => /lib64/libicuuc.so.72 (0x7ff5de20)
> > > libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff5df4ed000)
> > > libstdc++.so.6 => /lib64/libstdc++.so.6 (0x7ff5dde0)
> > > libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x7ff5de99b000)
> > > libpcre2-8.so.0 => /lib64/libpcre2-8.so.0 (0x7ff5de566000)
> > > libgio-2.0.so.0 => /lib64/libgio-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff5ddc2d000)
> > > libboost_filesystem.so.1.78.0 => /lib64/libboost_filesystem.so.1.78.0
> > > (0x7ff5de979000)
> > > libboost_locale.so.1.78.0 => /lib64/libboost_locale.so.1.78.0
> > > (0x7ff5de4c4000)
> > > libicudata.so.72 => /lib64/libicudata.so.72 (0x7ff5dbe0)
> > > libz.so.1 => /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x7ff5de95f000)
> > > libmount.so.1 => /lib64/libmount.so.1 (0x7ff5de47e000)
> > > libselinux.so.1 => /lib64/libselinux.so.1 (0x7ff5de451000)
> > > libboost_atomic.so.1.78.0 => /lib64/libboost_atomic.so.1.78.0
> > > (0x7ff5de955000)
> > > libboost_system.so.1.78.0 => /lib64/libboost_system.so.1.78.0
> > > (0x7ff5de95)
> > > libboost_thread.so.1.78.0 => /lib64/libboost_thread.so.1.78.0
> > > (0x7ff5de431000)
> > > libboost_chrono.so.1.78.0 => /lib64/libboost_chrono.so.1.78.0
> > > (0x7ff5de945000)
> > > libblkid.so.1 => /lib64/libblkid.so.1 (0x7ff5de1c8000)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:15 AM Derek Atkins  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Run:
> > >>   ldd /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-expressions-guile.so
> > >>
> > >> And see if perhaps it is missing a dependency?
> > >>
> > >> -derek
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, January 25, 2024 11:07 am, John Haiducek wrote:
> > >> > The file and its parent directory are both world-readable
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 10:46 AM R Losey  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> This is probably a silly question, but does the .so file have
> > >> >> permissions
> > >> >> that let it be read by your account? And/or what about the
> > >> >> containing directory?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:19 AM John Haiducek 
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> After upgrading to gnucash 5.5 on Fedora 38 (using the rpm package
> > >> for
> > >> >>> gnucash from the Fedora repos), I get the following error trying
> to
> > >> >>> start
> > >> >>> gnucash:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> $ gnucash
> > >> >>> 

Re: [GNC] importing or pasting reports into spreadsheets

[Alan Hopkins]

Hi David
When you paste into Calc (I'll assume you are using Ctrl-v), you should get
an Import options screen pop up in which you can tick a box "Detect special
numbers (such as dates). I find this works for me (using different versions
of Linux on differing hardware)
I hope that helps!

Cheers
Hop

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024, 11:54 am David Carlson, 
wrote:

> I have found that I can select the text of reports directly in GnuCash,
> then paste it into a Libre Office Calc spreadsheet.  The problem then is
> that values are preceded with a dollar sign in the US and it seems that
> they are not currency numbers but some form of text, as numeric operators
> do not recognize them.  It also looks like dates are in some form of text
> as they have a format code "@" whatever that means.
>
> I am not very proficient with these format issues.  Does someone know of an
> elementary reference that is easier to understand than the spreadsheet help
> file?
>
> Just in case it makes a difference I am using GnuCash release 4.8 in
> Lubuntu 22.04 with a LXQT desktop.
>
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Re: [GNC] How to get a report in a format which is easy to edit?

[Alan Hopkins]

Chris

I support Adrien here - he is trying to assist you to get to the end-point
you want.

HTML reports can be imported into any decent word processing software. You
don't need to edit the HTML code.

And you can make financial reports look great using a spreadsheet - I've
been doing that for decades. Perhaps you might consider doing a short
course on using spreadsheets for layout?

Additionally, there are pdf editors out there that do a good job (some are
cross-platform) - my pdf's produced from GnuCash are all editable (I use
Linux) - not graphic images - maybe look for another driver/app to achieve
what you need? Years ago when using Windoze & the earliest versions of
Quickbooks which didn't print to pdf I used a free app - I think it was
called something like PDF24 creator - the pdfs produced by it were also
editable.

Anyway, keep trying & you'll find a suitable method to do what you want.

Cheers

Alan


On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, 9:18 am Chris Green,  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 02:16:57PM -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > You can also select-all and copy/paste into a spreadsheet while viewing
> > any report.
> >
> You are a glutton for punishment!!!  Who on earth would try to make a
> report 'look nice' (which is what I'm trying to do) using a
> spreadsheet!??
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Re: [GNC] How to get a report in a format which is easy to edit?

[Alan Hopkins]

Chris

Are you "printing to file" or are you doing something else? As Adrien has
pointed out, you have not really given us enough info to help you.

Most Linux systems I am aware of allow printing to file & selecting file
type as pdf. I have not encountered a pdf from this method which couldn't
be edited - try something like MasterPDFEditor - it was free for basic
editing.

As you are using Linux & libreoffice you can just export the HTML & import
into Writer, adjust as required, then export to pdf.

But, again as Adrien noted, you might achieve what you want via the Report
Options pathway.

If you provide all info on the OS system & the version of GnuCash you are
using & steps you have taken, you might just find a GnuCash user on this
list who can help you more directly.

Cheers

A.

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, 6:58 pm Chris Green,  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 11:54:35PM -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > Yes, those PDFs are indeed reasonably editable. Even LibreOffice can
> > pull it off.
> >
> Which PDFs?  All the ones I have produced are images.  What's the
> 'standard' route from a GnuCash report to PDF (on Linux, so
> LibreOffice etc. are here by default).
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Re: [GNC] How to get a report in a format which is easy to edit?

[Alan Hopkins]

As an afterthought Chris, check to see if you have Ghostscript installed -
it effectively provides a pdf printer (with editable files)

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, 8:01 pm Alan Hopkins,  wrote:

> Chris
>
> Are you "printing to file" or are you doing something else? As Adrien has
> pointed out, you have not really given us enough info to help you.
>
> Most Linux systems I am aware of allow printing to file & selecting file
> type as pdf. I have not encountered a pdf from this method which couldn't
> be edited - try something like MasterPDFEditor - it was free for basic
> editing.
>
> As you are using Linux & libreoffice you can just export the HTML & import
> into Writer, adjust as required, then export to pdf.
>
> But, again as Adrien noted, you might achieve what you want via the Report
> Options pathway.
>
> If you provide all info on the OS system & the version of GnuCash you are
> using & steps you have taken, you might just find a GnuCash user on this
> list who can help you more directly.
>
> Cheers
>
> A.
>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, 6:58 pm Chris Green,  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 11:54:35PM -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> > Yes, those PDFs are indeed reasonably editable. Even LibreOffice can
>> > pull it off.
>> >
>> Which PDFs?  All the ones I have produced are images.  What's the
>> 'standard' route from a GnuCash report to PDF (on Linux, so
>> LibreOffice etc. are here by default).
>>
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Re: [GNC] How to get a report in a format which is easy to edit?

[Alan Hopkins]

Glad to hear it

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, 8:43 pm Chris Green,  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 08:01:36PM +1100, Alan Hopkins wrote:
> > Chris
> >
> > Are you "printing to file" or are you doing something else? As Adrien has
> > pointed out, you have not really given us enough info to help you.
> >
> I tried various ways.
>
> >
> > If you provide all info on the OS system & the version of GnuCash you are
> > using & steps you have taken, you might just find a GnuCash user on this
> > list who can help you more directly.
> >
> It's xubuntu and I'm running GnuCash 4.8 and LibreOffice 7.3.7.2.
>
> However I have spotted my basic problem, opening a PDF file with
> libreoffice opens it in lodraw and thus it *looks like* I have a PDF
> with images.  I don't seem to be able to force libreoffice to open a
> PDF in lowriter.
>
> I have managed a way round this now, pandoc will convert from HTML
> directly to an loffice ODT file which gets me to the result I want, a
> report I can edit reasonably easily in lowriter.
>
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Re: [GNC] How to get a report in a format which is easy to edit?

[Alan Hopkins]

You just need CUPS-PDF installed as a print driver for producing pdf files.

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, 9:12 pm Alan Hopkins,  wrote:

> Glad to hear it
>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, 8:43 pm Chris Green,  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 08:01:36PM +1100, Alan Hopkins wrote:
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > Are you "printing to file" or are you doing something else? As Adrien
>> has
>> > pointed out, you have not really given us enough info to help you.
>> >
>> I tried various ways.
>>
>> >
>> > If you provide all info on the OS system & the version of GnuCash you
>> are
>> > using & steps you have taken, you might just find a GnuCash user on this
>> > list who can help you more directly.
>> >
>> It's xubuntu and I'm running GnuCash 4.8 and LibreOffice 7.3.7.2.
>>
>> However I have spotted my basic problem, opening a PDF file with
>> libreoffice opens it in lodraw and thus it *looks like* I have a PDF
>> with images.  I don't seem to be able to force libreoffice to open a
>> PDF in lowriter.
>>
>> I have managed a way round this now, pandoc will convert from HTML
>> directly to an loffice ODT file which gets me to the result I want, a
>> report I can edit reasonably easily in lowriter.
>>
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