how vulnerable is hidden-encrypt-to

2012-08-17 Thread auto15963931
Is there any way on heaven or earth for someone to discover from a
message, one sent to them or to another person, whether the encrypted
message had been made with an option hidden-encrypt-to or what key ID
had been used in conjunction with that option? Thanks.


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Re: how vulnerable is hidden-encrypt-to

2012-08-17 Thread Hauke Laging
Am Fr 17.08.2012, 09:56:56 schrieb auto15963931:
 Is there any way on heaven or earth for someone to discover from a
 message, one sent to them or to another person, whether the encrypted
 message had been made with an option hidden-encrypt-to

Sure.

start cmd: LC_ALL=C gpg --list-packets test.gpg
:pubkey enc packet: version 3, algo 1, keyid 8E75E2184AD27C5B
data: [4095 bits]
:pubkey enc packet: version 3, algo 1, keyid 
data: [2046 bits]
gpg: anonymous recipient; trying secret key 0x25D4FD8B ...


 or what key ID
 had been used in conjunction with that option? Thanks.

You need the private recipient key in order to find out that key ID. It's the 
use of this option that you cannot get this information in another way.


Hauke
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Re: how vulnerable is hidden-encrypt-to

2012-08-17 Thread auto15963931
Hauke Laging:
 Am Fr 17.08.2012, 09:56:56 schrieb auto15963931:
 Is there any way on heaven or earth for someone to discover from a
 message, one sent to them or to another person, whether the encrypted
 message had been made with an option hidden-encrypt-to
 
 Sure.
 
 start cmd: LC_ALL=C gpg --list-packets test.gpg
 :pubkey enc packet: version 3, algo 1, keyid 8E75E2184AD27C5B
 data: [4095 bits]
 :pubkey enc packet: version 3, algo 1, keyid 
 data: [2046 bits]
 gpg: anonymous recipient; trying secret key 0x25D4FD8B ...
 
 
 or what key ID
 had been used in conjunction with that option? Thanks.
 
 You need the private recipient key in order to find out that key ID. It's the 
 use of this option that you cannot get this information in another way.
 
 
Hello, Hauke

Apparently, that it was used could be seen, but to whom it had been
encrypted could not unless one happened to have that key. In the example
of yours it appears as though the message was encrypted to two different
keys, one of which was hidden and the other not. Is that right?

Incidentally, when I looked at your reply and noticed it was signed, I
tried verifying the signature. However, the signature appeared to be
invalid according to the message I got:

OpenPGP Security Info

Error - signature verification failed

gpg command line and output:
gpg2.exe
gpg: Signature made 08/17/12 10:16:27 Central Daylight Time
gpg:using RSA key 5BA0F8B53A403251
gpg: BAD signature from Hauke Laging ha...@laging.de [unknown]


Why is the signature failing? Thanks.


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Re: how vulnerable is hidden-encrypt-to

2012-08-17 Thread Hauke Laging
Am Fr 17.08.2012, 21:05:32 schrieb auto15963931:

 In the example
 of yours it appears as though the message was encrypted to two different
 keys, one of which was hidden and the other not. Is that right?

That is right. --hidden-encrypt-to needs other recipients. But you may use
‑‑throw-keyids or --hidden-recipient instead.


 Incidentally, when I looked at your reply and noticed it was signed, I
 tried verifying the signature.

 Why is the signature failing? Thanks.

That's a bug in my MUA which is triggered by the email being encoded as ascii:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id05171

This bug (or rather: problem) has been discovered here on the list – it occurs
almost only in English emails. I have added a non-ASCII char to my text
signature thus forcing a charset different from ascii. Thus the signature of
this email should be OK.


Hauke
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Re: how vulnerable is hidden-encrypt-to

2012-08-17 Thread Jean-David Beyer
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Hash: SHA1

Hauke Laging wrote:
 Am Fr 17.08.2012, 21:05:32 schrieb auto15963931:
 
 In the example
 of yours it appears as though the message was encrypted to two different
 keys, one of which was hidden and the other not. Is that right?
 
 That is right. --hidden-encrypt-to needs other recipients. But you may use 
 ‑‑throw-keyids or --hidden-recipient instead.
 
 
 Incidentally, when I looked at your reply and noticed it was signed, I
 tried verifying the signature.
 
 Why is the signature failing? Thanks.
 
 That's a bug in my MUA which is triggered by the email being encoded as ascii:
 
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305171
 
 This bug (or rather: problem) has been discovered here on the list – it 
 occurs 
 almost only in English emails. I have added a non-ASCII char to my text 
 signature thus forcing a charset different from ascii. Thus the signature of 
 this email should be OK.

Hey!

OpenPGP Security Info

UNTRUSTED Good signature from Hauke Laging mailinglis...@hauke-laging.de
Key ID: 0x3A403251 / Signed on: 08/17/2012 10:24 PM
Key fingerprint: D44C 6A5B 71B0 427C CED3 025C BD7D 6D27 ECCB 5814



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