Re: In case you use OpenPGP on a smartphone ...

2020-08-19 Thread Johan Wevers
On 19-08-2020 23:28, Ingo Klöcker wrote:

> We need to stop calling such rubbish "theories". Better call it "conspiracy 
> myths" or "conspiracy tales" or "conspiracy stories" or anything else that 
> makes it clear that (unlike scientific theories) it is not supported by facts.

You mean like the conspiracy myth that the NSA was eavesdropping on
everyone, whether they were allowed to or not? Yes, that was not
supported by facts (before the Snowden revelations) so it must have been
utter rubbish.

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ir. J.C.A. Wevers
PGP/GPG public keys at http://www.xs4all.nl/~johanw/pgpkeys.html


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Re: In case you use OpenPGP on a smartphone ...

2020-08-19 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Mittwoch, 19. August 2020 20:10:29 CEST Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> You're linking to a conspiracy theory video alleging a... look, I'm not
> going to give these people credibility even by *summarizing* it.  It
> should be enough to say that InfoWars is backing it.

We need to stop calling such rubbish "theories". Better call it "conspiracy 
myths" or "conspiracy tales" or "conspiracy stories" or anything else that 
makes it clear that (unlike scientific theories) it is not supported by facts.

Sorry, for adding to this off-topic thread.

Regards,
Ingo


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Re: In case you use OpenPGP on a smartphone ...

2020-08-19 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Sorry for being now probably completely off-topic, but when it comes to 
> informations we find
> on the Internet and/or are discussing if videos or informations are faked, or 
> some people
> like to guide us in wrong directions, I would highly recommend to watch 
> Millie Weaver's
> 'Shadow Gate' documentary, which was released a couple of days ago and is 
> already banned
> on YouTube and Facebook.

Stefan, I'm not a list moderator and I have absolutely zero authority to
say this, but I'm going to say it anyway:

Please take this stuff elsewhere.

You're linking to a conspiracy theory video alleging a... look, I'm not
going to give these people credibility even by *summarizing* it.  It
should be enough to say that InfoWars is backing it.

It has no connection to fact or even reality, and even less than no
connection to GnuPG or communications security.

Please, I'm begging you: take it elsewhere.  It doesn't belong here.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/18/fact-check-shadowgate-spreads-misinformation-major-events/5601742002/


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Re: In case you use OpenPGP on a smartphone ...

2020-08-19 Thread Marcus Kvarnström

* Stefan Claas  Aug 19, 16:31:


videos or informations are faked, or some people like to guide us in wrong directions, 


Oh, the irony...


I would highly recommend to watch Millie Weaver's 'Shadow Gate' documentary, 
which was released a couple of days ago and is already banned on YouTube and 
Facebook.

No, it is not banned. Anyone with access to a web browser can see that.
It's a conspiracy theory produced by the well known misinformation and conspiracy website Infowars. 
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// Marcus

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Re: In case you use OpenPGP on a smartphone ...

2020-08-19 Thread Stefan Claas
Stefan Claas wrote:
 
> ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್ via Gnupg-users wrote:
>  
> > Isn't the NSO group Israeli, not Russian as claimed in the video? 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSO_Group
> 
> Yes, as understood. I think it really doesn't matter where Pegasus does come 
> from.

Sorry for being now probably completely off-topic, but when it comes to 
informations we find
on the Internet and/or are discussing if videos or informations are faked, or 
some people
like to guide us in wrong directions, I would highly recommend to watch Millie 
Weaver's
'Shadow Gate' documentary, which was released a couple of days ago and is 
already banned
on YouTube and Facebook.

https://banned.video/watch?id=5f37fcc2df77c4044ee2eb03

Regards
Stefan

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