Re: [k9mail/k-9] Makes PGP sign-only mails very difficult (#2375)

2019-02-06 Thread Werner Koch
[Please don't cross-post!]

On Tue,  5 Feb 2019 12:47, gnupg-users@gnupg.org said:

> THE DATE PROBLEM. Only the body of the email is signed, not the
> envelope headers, namely the subject and intended recipients, and

Sure, mail headers are subject to changes.  For example by mailing list
software or simpluy by forwarding mail.  Tehre is a reason that OpenPGP
signatures carry a creation date.

> THE STRIPPING PROBLEM. Currently, each attachment is signed separately
> and independently by the PGP-MIME standard. It would be preferable to

Nope.  Please actually read RFC3156 and check compliant implementation -
All I known get it right.


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Re: [k9mail/k-9] Makes PGP sign-only mails very difficult (#2375)

2019-02-05 Thread vedaal via Gnupg-users


On 2/5/2019 at 4:50 PM, "justina colmena via Gnupg-users"  wrote:>THE
DATE PROBLEM. Only the body of the email is signed, not the envelope
headers, namely the subject and intended >recipients, and probably
most importantly, the date. It would be nice to have an option to
automatically include some of >these headers in the body of the signed
message when composing a signed email message.

>THE STRIPPING PROBLEM. Currently, each attachment is signed
separately and independently by the PGP-MIME >standard. It would be
preferable to digitally sign SHA hashes of the main message and all
attachments in a single >additional attachment. This would leave an
indication of any attachments that may have been "stripped" from the
email >message, but without breaking the signatures of remaining
attachments in such cases.

=

In this case, there is a simple workaround :
[1] Put the subject, the intended recipients, and the date, in the
introductory line(s) in the plaintext.

[2] enarmor all the attachments, [ using the GnuPG --enarmor command  
(-a command in PGP) ], and paste the enarmored text into the body of
the message, at the end of the message, right after a line saying;  
here are the following attachments :[3] Sign and encrypt the entire
message composed of parts [1] and [2] and send it off

this has the following 3 advantages:

(a) no one knows what kind of attachments are being sent, or how many.
(b) all the important data is in the Plaintext, where it belongs, and
not vulnerable to MIMT attacks
(c) backward compatibility in maintained, and no new standards have to
be designed
vedaal
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Re: [k9mail/k-9] Makes PGP sign-only mails very difficult (#2375)

2019-02-05 Thread justina colmena via Gnupg-users
On February 4, 2019 8:07:33 AM AKST, Citizen Kepler  
wrote:
>I would like to say that I need to have a signature on all of the
>emails that I send to authenticate me as the sender, but not encrypt
>them.  Often these messages are going back into bug tracking systems or
>mailing lists, and manually signing each email is a bad solution.   I
>will need to allow a opt-in sign by default option. 

[[[Date: Tuesday, February 5, 2019, 12:45 PM AKST]]]
PGP signatures do have a couple of rather severe and vicious limitations.

THE DATE PROBLEM. Only the body of the email is signed, not the envelope 
headers, namely the subject and intended recipients, and probably most 
importantly, the date. It would be nice to have an option to automatically 
include some of these headers in the body of the signed message when composing 
a signed email message.

THE STRIPPING PROBLEM. Currently, each attachment is signed separately and 
independently by the PGP-MIME standard. It would be preferable to digitally 
sign SHA hashes of the main message and all attachments in a single additional 
attachment. This would leave an indication of any attachments that may have 
been "stripped" from the email message, but without breaking the signatures of 
remaining attachments in such cases.

Bust that 55+ EFF nightclub and do it right, folks, unless it's the youth wing 
spouting the exact same old fogies' party line. 
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el derecho del pueblo de tener y de portar Armas, no serĂ¡ infringido.

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