Re: How to use terminal to change mac-cache-ttl

2011-10-17 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
On 12 October 2011 16:44, Vortran66  wrote:

> I realize now that changing the cache values involves a little more than
> changing a few values and that I am probably in
>
way over my head.


Open a terminal and type "man gpg-agent".  Make a note of any ttl values you
want to set, eg:

   --default-cache-ttl n
  Set  the  time a cache entry is valid to n seconds.  The
default
  is 600 seconds.

   --default-cache-ttl-ssh n
  Set the time a cache entry used for SSH keys is valid to n
 sec-
  onds.  The default is 1800 seconds.

   --max-cache-ttl n
  Set the maximum time a cache entry is valid to n seconds.
 After
  this time a cache entry will be expired  even  if  it  has
 been
  accessed recently.  The default is 2 hours (7200 seconds).

   --max-cache-ttl-ssh n
  Set the maximum time a cache entry used for SSH keys is valid
to
  n seconds.  After this time a cache entry will be  expired
 even
  if  it has been accessed recently.  The default is 2 hours
(7200
  seconds).

Then type "nano ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf" at the command prompt and enter the
values you want without the preceding dashes, for example:

default-cache-ttl 0
max-cache-ttl 0

Then kill any existing gpg-agent with "kill gpg-agent".  As you are using
gpg-tools, you may wish to direct your query to their email list -
http://lists.gpgtools.org/mailman/listinfo/gpgtools-users

Benjamin Donnachie
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Re: How to use terminal to change mac-cache-ttl

2011-10-17 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 10/16/2011 9:31 PM, Vortran66 wrote:
> Thank you very much.  Looks like alter agent will not work with Snow
> Leopard.

It will, actually: all I have to do is recompile it for Snow Leopard.
There's nothing in there that's Lion-specific.  I'll see about making a
new build within the next couple of hours.

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Re: How to use terminal to change mac-cache-ttl

2011-10-17 Thread Vortran66

Mr. Hansen:

Thank you very much.  Looks like alter agent will not work with Snow
Leopard.  As soon as I upgrade to Lion I will give it a try.  Thanks for
helping out a novice!

Bill



Robert J. Hansen-3 wrote:
> 
> On 10/12/11 11:44 AM, Vortran66 wrote:
>> Thanks for all your effort.  I realize now that changing the cache 
>> values involves a little more than changing a few values and that I 
>> am probably in way over my head.
> 
> It involves editing a couple of configuration files by hand, and
> requires you to be a little comfortable with the command-line, yes.
> This much is true.  :)
> 
>> I am basically just a dumb user
> 
> This much is totally bogus.  :)
> 
>> who has no real experience programming other than a little COBAL back
>> in college 25 years ago (don't laugh).
> 
> Laughing at COBOL is sort of like laughing at the Great Pyramids of
> Egypt: it tells you a lot more about the person doing the laughing than
> it does about COBOL.  Speaking just for myself, I don't laugh at apps
> that have been running for five decades without a crash.
> 
>> I read the agent-alter PDF and I get the gist of what it does.  My 
>> problem is I really unfamiliar with using terminal.
> 
> That's not for you, friend.  :)  My goal is to give you a tool you can
> easily use to solve your problem.  That PDF was meant more for other
> people to review and tell me, "no, you're doing it wrong, you
> should...".  (And that was very much worthwhile: Werner pointed me
> towards the gpgconf tool, which simplified things a lot.)
> 
> Anyway.  You might want to take a look at:
> 
>   http://keyservers.org/~rjh/AlterAgent.zip
> 
> Download it, unzip it, and within there will be an OS X app called
> "AlterAgent."  Double-click and you might just get the solution to your
> problem.  It might also crash horribly.
> 
> *I've only tested it on my own machine.*  No warranties express or
> implied, etc., etc.  If it breaks you get to keep both parts.
> 
> If you have feedback ("it's great, you're so cool!", or "my Mac is now
> on fire and it's all your fault!"), please send it to me directly: don't
> spam the list with it, please.  Thanks.  :)
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Re: How to use terminal to change mac-cache-ttl

2011-10-12 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 10/12/11 11:44 AM, Vortran66 wrote:
> Thanks for all your effort.  I realize now that changing the cache 
> values involves a little more than changing a few values and that I 
> am probably in way over my head.

It involves editing a couple of configuration files by hand, and
requires you to be a little comfortable with the command-line, yes.
This much is true.  :)

> I am basically just a dumb user

This much is totally bogus.  :)

> who has no real experience programming other than a little COBAL back
> in college 25 years ago (don't laugh).

Laughing at COBOL is sort of like laughing at the Great Pyramids of
Egypt: it tells you a lot more about the person doing the laughing than
it does about COBOL.  Speaking just for myself, I don't laugh at apps
that have been running for five decades without a crash.

> I read the agent-alter PDF and I get the gist of what it does.  My 
> problem is I really unfamiliar with using terminal.

That's not for you, friend.  :)  My goal is to give you a tool you can
easily use to solve your problem.  That PDF was meant more for other
people to review and tell me, "no, you're doing it wrong, you
should...".  (And that was very much worthwhile: Werner pointed me
towards the gpgconf tool, which simplified things a lot.)

Anyway.  You might want to take a look at:

http://keyservers.org/~rjh/AlterAgent.zip

Download it, unzip it, and within there will be an OS X app called
"AlterAgent."  Double-click and you might just get the solution to your
problem.  It might also crash horribly.

*I've only tested it on my own machine.*  No warranties express or
implied, etc., etc.  If it breaks you get to keep both parts.

If you have feedback ("it's great, you're so cool!", or "my Mac is now
on fire and it's all your fault!"), please send it to me directly: don't
spam the list with it, please.  Thanks.  :)

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Re: How to use terminal to change mac-cache-ttl

2011-10-12 Thread Vortran66



Robert J. Hansen-3 wrote:
> 
> On 10/5/11 7:55 PM, Vortran66 wrote:
>> I have a very limited knowledge of using terminal in Mac.  Can someone
>> tell
>> me what commands I would need to enter to do this. 
> 
> 
> The good news is that I've put together a small Python script that will
> (hopefully) make things a little easier on you.  Give me a day or two to
> do more bughunting, and once it's done it should be pretty easy on you
> to edit these values.
> 
>   http://keyservers.org/~rjh/agent-alter-1.0.tar.bz2
>   http://keyservers.org/~rjh/agent-alter-code.pdf
>   http://keyservers.org/~rjh/agent-alter.pdf
> 
> You'll need Norman Ramsey's Noweb package installed in order to rebuild
> from the Noweb source, but you can also just look inside src/ to get a
> pre-extracted version (named "agent-alter").  Alternately, just read the
> two PDFs.  Any and all bug finds gratefully accepted.  
> 
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Mr Hansen:
Thanks for all your effort.  I realize now that changing the cache values
involves a little more than changing a few values and that I am probably in
way over my head.  I am basically just a dumb user who has no real
experience programming other than a little COBAL back in college 25 years
ago (don't laugh).  

I read the agent-alter PDF and I get the gist of what it does.  My problem
is I really unfamiliar with using terminal.

To use agent-alter do I just copy the code from the PDF and paste into
terminal or is more involved?  I understand how to change the cache values
in agent-alter but beyond that I am pretty clueless.  

If there are a few monkey-see monkey-do steps that I need to do to implement
alter-agent could you let me know what they are.  If it is more involved
than that or if it is something I could easily screw up my system not
knowing what I am doing let me know and I will search for another encryption
solution.


Is there another front end to GnuPG besides GPG Tools that would allow me to
limit the time a password is cached?

I am using a mac running os x.  I am using GPG Tools,   Keychain Access
Version 0.8.13 (0.8.13)
   
Bill



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Re: How to use terminal to change mac-cache-ttl

2011-10-07 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 10/7/11 4:18 AM, Werner Koch wrote:
> I suggest that you use gpgconf to change configuration options.

Cute: thanks for the heads-up.

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Re: How to use terminal to change mac-cache-ttl

2011-10-07 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu,  6 Oct 2011 20:20, r...@sixdemonbag.org said:

> The good news is that I've put together a small Python script that will
> (hopefully) make things a little easier on you.  Give me a day or two to

I suggest that you use gpgconf to change configuration options.  We
designed this tool to allow easy changing of configuration options using
a GUI or by scripts.  As part of GnuPG it has intimate knowledge of the
options and takes care not to break things.  It is being used for years
by Kleopatra and GPA for preference settings and to dynamically create
configuration dialogs.

  http://gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/gpgconf.html


Shalom-Salam,

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Re: How to use terminal to change mac-cache-ttl

2011-10-06 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 10/5/11 7:55 PM, Vortran66 wrote:
> I have a very limited knowledge of using terminal in Mac.  Can someone tell
> me what commands I would need to enter to do this. 

Although I think that using Terminal.app is fun, natural and sensible,
it's possible that I'm psychotic.

If you *want* to learn how to use Terminal.app, you might find it
enjoyable.  If you just want to make the darn thing work, the more you
wrestle with Terminal.app the more frustrated you'll get.

The good news is that I've put together a small Python script that will
(hopefully) make things a little easier on you.  Give me a day or two to
do more bughunting, and once it's done it should be pretty easy on you
to edit these values.



Anyone who knows both Python and OS X: please feel free to check out --

http://keyservers.org/~rjh/agent-alter-1.0.tar.bz2
http://keyservers.org/~rjh/agent-alter-code.pdf
http://keyservers.org/~rjh/agent-alter.pdf

You'll need Norman Ramsey's Noweb package installed in order to rebuild
from the Noweb source, but you can also just look inside src/ to get a
pre-extracted version (named "agent-alter").  Alternately, just read the
two PDFs.  Any and all bug finds gratefully accepted.  Let's see if we
can't get something ready for this guy by the weekend.  :)


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How to use terminal to change mac-cache-ttl

2011-10-06 Thread Vortran66

I am using GnuPG with Mac OSX  I need to reset password caching to a lower
setting than the default.  I was told that caching in gpg-agent is
responsible for this and that I need to configure its cache entry
TTL values. I was told to look for cache settings in gpg-agent.conf (to be
created in your
GnuPG homedir. 

I have a very limited knowledge of using terminal in Mac.  Can someone tell
me what commands I would need to enter to do this. 

I believe I need to set --max-cache-ttl n  (with n being seconds).  The
problem is I have no idea how to go about changing this in terminal.  Sorry
for being so ignorant on this.  

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