Re: OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-26 Thread Thomas Hejze 
Am Donnerstag, 21. September 2017, 19:48:34 CEST schrieb Matthias Apitz:

> > Unfortunately their hardware dos not seem to support Ubuntu any more. I
> > found the "Ubuntu Edition" under "obsolete models", even a cyanogen
> > edition, but all their current models run on Android. The rest of their
> > homepage is all marketing gibberish as it is the use, nowadays.
> 
> Look for second hand devices of the BQ "Ubuntu Edition" (BQ does not
> produce nor sell them anymore). Such devices you could reflash to the
> software available at ubports.com

Thanks for the information, but what are the perspectives? Lets hope the 
community has enough endurance, but which hardware to buy in three or four 
years?

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Re: OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-26 Thread Thomas Hejze 
Am Freitag, 22. September 2017, 10:36:45 CEST schrieb Franck Routier:
> Hi, Jolla did an official port of SailfishOS to Sony Xperia X hardware.



> The only point is the the image is not yet available for purchase,
> but it should be a matter of days...
> 
> See https://blog.jolla.com/sailfishx/

Thanks for the information. I'll keep an eye on it.

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Re: OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-22 Thread Franck Routier 
Hi, Jolla did an official port of SailfishOS to Sony Xperia X hardware. 
It's about one year old, but you still can get one in Europe for around 
300€.


Then you'll have to buy (49€) a Sailfish for Xperia license, and install 
it. The only point is the the image is not yet available for purchase, 
but it should be a matter of days...


See https://blog.jolla.com/sailfishx/


Regards,

Franck


Le 21/09/2017 à 19:33, Thomas Hejze a écrit :

Am Dienstag, 19. September 2017, 13:44:53 CEST schrieb Andreas Ronnquist:


If I had the money, I would pledge for one of these:

https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/



That project looks promising, however, I fear I am not able to spend $924.000
for my smartphone ;-)

Anyway that is what I am looking for, I hope they will make it. Nevertheless,
even then it will take at least one year for them to bring their product to
the market.

Looking at Tizen, Jolla, Firefox OS and Ubuntu Touch, I start to worry for the
future of Open Source. Isn't there a business case for a FOSS smartphone?

Best regards
Thomas

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Re: OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-21 Thread MFPA 
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On Thursday 21 September 2017 at 6:33:40 PM, in
, Thomas Hejze wrote:-

> I start to worry for the
> future of Open Source. Isn't there a business case
> for a FOSS smartphone?

I think Fairphone  tries, but they still
have proprietary hardware drivers. "Made using conflict-free
minerals."

Too dear for me (529 euros from Fairphone themselves, 465 GBP new or
385 GBP refurbished from .


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Re: OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-21 Thread Matthias Apitz 
El día jueves, septiembre 21, 2017 a las 06:54:43p. m. +0200, Thomas Hejze 
escribió:

> Hi Dotan,
> 
> 
> Am Montag, 18. September 2017, 19:55:49 CEST schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> > The answer pretty much depends on what smartphone features you are
> > looking for. Do you need to run a web browser? Email integration?
> 
> 
> well first of all I would like to make phone calls.
> 
> I use kdepim for contacts, calendar and email, so kdepim should run on it or 
> at least be syncable.
> 
> And gnupg should run on it. And yes, a secure browser, too.

I have ported gpg2 and the password storage manger 'pass' to my Ubuntu
phone BQ E4.5. I'm still working on the pcscd daemon to get the
GnuPG-card working in the phone. The tricky part is that you normally can
not install or compile additional software in the root file system of
the device (because it's mounted for good reasons read-only). You must
setup an additional complete system and chroot to it. If you later want
to run such compiled/installed software from outside the chroot, you
must set LD_IBRARY_PATH (...) so the software can find its stuff, for
example in a small shell wrapper script:

cat gpg2.sh
#!/bin/sh

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/home/phablet/myRoot/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
/home/phablet/myRoot/usr/bin/gpg-agent --homedir /home/phablet/.gnupg \
   --use-standard-socket --daemon \
   --pinentry-program /home/phablet/myRoot/usr/bin/pinentry-curses
/home/phablet/myRoot/usr/bin/gpg-connect-agent /bye
PATH=$PATH:myRoot/usr/bin export PATH
/home/phablet/myRoot/usr/bin/gpg2 $*

This way I have gpg2 and pass working. I can SSH into the phone (or do
the same on the terminal-app) and run: 

$ ssh phablet@ubphone
Welcome to Ubuntu 15.04 (GNU/Linux 3.4.67 armv7l)

phablet@ubuntu-phablet-bq:~$

phablet@ubuntu-phablet-bq:~$ ls -l .password-store/web/bla.gpg
-rw--- 1 phablet phablet 356 Sep 20 12:58 .password-store/web/bla.gpg
phablet@ubuntu-phablet-bq:~$

phablet@ubuntu-phablet-bq:~$ ./pass.sh web/bla

   
┌┐
   │ Please enter the passphrase to unlock the secret key for the OpenPGP 
certificate:  │
   │ "Matthias Apitz "
│
   │ 2048-bit RSA key, ID 76254069, 
│
   │ created 2017-09-20 (main key ID CBE83911). 
│
   │
│
   │
│
   │ Passphrase 
___ │
   │
│
   │  
  │
   
└┘

abc123
Username: g...@unixarea.de


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Re: OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-21 Thread Thomas Hejze 
Am Dienstag, 19. September 2017, 13:44:53 CEST schrieb Andreas Ronnquist:

> 
> If I had the money, I would pledge for one of these:
> 
> https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
> 


That project looks promising, however, I fear I am not able to spend $924.000 
for my smartphone ;-)

Anyway that is what I am looking for, I hope they will make it. Nevertheless, 
even then it will take at least one year for them to bring their product to 
the market.

Looking at Tizen, Jolla, Firefox OS and Ubuntu Touch, I start to worry for the 
future of Open Source. Isn't there a business case for a FOSS smartphone?

Best regards
Thomas

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Re: OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-21 Thread Matthias Apitz 
El día jueves, septiembre 21, 2017 a las 07:09:01p. m. +0200, Thomas Hejze 
escribió:

> Am Montag, 18. September 2017, 20:13:14 CEST schrieb Matthias Apitz:
> > >> I'm using for more than two years an Ubuntu phone BQ E4.5. The
> > >> project was
> > >> driven by Canonical and BQ as the hardware OEM. The project
> > >> died in March of
> > >> this year, but is now moved to a community of OpenSource entusiast. 
> 
> > >   Wasn't there also at least one company in Europe selling the
> > > 
> > > Ubuntu phones?
> > 
> > Yes, as I said BQ.com
> 
> Unfortunately their hardware dos not seem to support Ubuntu any more. I found 
> the "Ubuntu Edition" under "obsolete models", even a cyanogen edition, but 
> all 
> their current models run on Android. The rest of their homepage is all 
> marketing gibberish as it is the use, nowadays.

Look for second hand devices of the BQ "Ubuntu Edition" (BQ does not
produce nor sell them anymore). Such devices you could reflash to the
software available at ubports.com

matthias
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Re: OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-21 Thread Thomas Hejze 
Am Montag, 18. September 2017, 20:13:14 CEST schrieb Matthias Apitz:
> >> I'm using for more than two years an Ubuntu phone BQ E4.5. The
> >> project was
> >> driven by Canonical and BQ as the hardware OEM. The project
> >> died in March of
> >> this year, but is now moved to a community of OpenSource entusiast. 

> >   Wasn't there also at least one company in Europe selling the
> > 
> > Ubuntu phones?
> 
> Yes, as I said BQ.com

Unfortunately their hardware dos not seem to support Ubuntu any more. I found 
the "Ubuntu Edition" under "obsolete models", even a cyanogen edition, but all 
their current models run on Android. The rest of their homepage is all 
marketing gibberish as it is the use, nowadays.

Best regards

Thomas



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Re: OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-21 Thread Thomas Hejze 
Hi Dotan,


Am Montag, 18. September 2017, 19:55:49 CEST schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> The answer pretty much depends on what smartphone features you are
> looking for. Do you need to run a web browser? Email integration?


well first of all I would like to make phone calls.

I use kdepim for contacts, calendar and email, so kdepim should run on it or 
at least be syncable.

And gnupg should run on it. And yes, a secure browser, too.

Everything else is a nice-to-have. So I guess Linux is the OS of choice. 
Hardware is anything-that-runs-on-Linux.

I know it is possible to jailbreak  an Android phone, the question is how 
difficult is this (for me).

Best regards.

Thomas

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Re: OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-19 Thread Andreas Ronnquist 
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 17:32:51 +0200,
Thomas Hejze wrote:

>Hello everyone,
>I know this is off-topic, but since it is related to IT security and
>therefore more or less to GNUPG, I hope that I get some helping
>answers, though.
>
>Having been objecting to smartphones for a long time I fear that the
>time has come that I get one for myself. The question is which one.
>
>IPhone is not an option, Android probably not, due to security
>considerations. I want a hardware/software combination which provides
>a decent amount of security for my personal data. Jolla or Tizen comes
>to my mind, but as far as I have come with my research, hardware for
>those is difficult to get at least in Europe. So I am looking for some
>advice from the experts which are regulars on this mailing list and
>recommendations which hardware/software combination they would use
>resp. are using.
>

If I had the money, I would pledge for one of these: 

https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

I believe It will fit with the GnuPG thoughts on privacy and security
very well.

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Re: OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-18 Thread Matthias Apitz 
On Monday, 18 September 2017 20:07:38 CEST, Mauricio Tavares 
 wrote:




I'm using for more than two years an Ubuntu phone BQ E4.5. The 
project was
driven by Canonical and BQ as the hardware OEM. The project 
died in March of

this year, but is now moved to a community of OpenSource entusiast. The
software novadays is mostly Ubuntu 15.04, with some Android blobs in the
kernel for the hardware access.


  Wasn't there also at least one company in Europe selling the
Ubuntu phones?


Yes, as I said BQ.com




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Re: OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-18 Thread Dotan Cohen 
The answer pretty much depends on what smartphone features you are
looking for. Do you need to run a web browser? Email integration?
AnkiDroid? A decent camera?

Let us know what features you are looking for.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Thomas Hejze  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> I know this is off-topic, but since it is related to IT security and therefore
> more or less to GNUPG, I hope that I get some helping answers, though.
>
> Having been objecting to smartphones for a long time I fear that the time has
> come that I get one for myself. The question is which one.
>
> IPhone is not an option, Android probably not, due to security considerations.
> I want a hardware/software combination which provides a decent amount of
> security for my personal data. Jolla or Tizen comes to my mind, but as far as
> I have come with my research, hardware for those is difficult to get at least
> in Europe. So I am looking for some advice from the experts which are regulars
> on this mailing list and recommendations which hardware/software combination
> they would use resp. are using.
>
> Thanks in advance and best regards
> Thomas Hejze
>
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OT: Which smartphone would you use

2017-09-18 Thread Thomas Hejze 
Hello everyone,
I know this is off-topic, but since it is related to IT security and therefore 
more or less to GNUPG, I hope that I get some helping answers, though.

Having been objecting to smartphones for a long time I fear that the time has 
come that I get one for myself. The question is which one.

IPhone is not an option, Android probably not, due to security considerations.
I want a hardware/software combination which provides a decent amount of 
security for my personal data. Jolla or Tizen comes to my mind, but as far as 
I have come with my research, hardware for those is difficult to get at least 
in Europe. So I am looking for some advice from the experts which are regulars 
on this mailing list and recommendations which hardware/software combination 
they would use resp. are using.

Thanks in advance and best regards
Thomas Hejze

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