Re: [OT] Re: Test mail to gnupg.user
On Sunday 13 June 2010, MFPA wrote: Hi On Sunday 13 June 2010 at 10:03:00 AM, in mid:201006131103.01...@thufir.ingo-kloecker.de, Ingo Klöcker wrote: IMNSHO, it's not up to the mailing list admins to dictate where replies to my posts should go. Therefore, the mailing list software should not touch the Reply-to header. As far as I know, this is the only list I have ever subscribed to that does not set a reply-to header to the list address. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, just unique in my experience. The admins don't dictate where replies go: the person replying does whatever they want. True. But to do so the person replying has to decide whatever they want (reply to author or reply to list or reply to both). Also, not all MUAs make it easy to choose between reply to author or reply to list or reply to both. I'm not sure what the conclusion is. I guess the only sensible conclusion is using a decent MUA which gives the replier the choice. Optimizing the mailing list for crappy MUAs is just as wrong as optimizing web pages for crappy browsers. However, I would suggest that it *is* perfectly proper for the admins of any list to set headers that encourage posters (or their email software) to follow the etiquette of that group. In the case of GnuPG-users, that would perhaps be a reply-to header containing both the list address and the senders address. Hmm, I never read anywhere that this would be the etiquette of this group. It's certainly not mentioned on the listinfo page of gnupg-users. Also, most people seem to reply to list only. Regards, Ingo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [OT] Re: Test mail to gnupg.user
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:12:54 +0200 Ingo Klöcker kloec...@kde.org articulated: Hmm, I never read anywhere that this would be the etiquette of this group. It's certainly not mentioned on the listinfo page of gnupg-users. Also, most people seem to reply to list only. While it would appear that most users direct their replies back to the list, there are a few morons who feel it is their sworn duty to CC: the OP. It gets worse; another user unintentionally replies to just such a message with the unwanted CC: intact. Now the OP starts receiving a chain of unwanted e-mails. While it is certainly possible to filter out just such nonsense, and personally I feel that reporting it as SPAM since it effective is, doing so would probably not bode well for the list's reputation.. -- Jerry ✌ gnupg.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ BEWARE! People acting under the influence of human nature. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [OT] Re: Test mail to gnupg.user
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Sunday 13 June 2010 at 7:37:33 PM, in mid:20100613143733.7baf8...@scorpio, Jerry wrote: While it would appear that most users direct their replies back to the list, there are a few morons who feel it is their sworn duty to CC: the OP. After my first few postings to this list, I received a complaint from somebody whose post I replied to, for not copying my replies directly to the OP. I amended my reply template to do so, and have received no complaint since. It gets worse; another user unintentionally replies to just such a message with the unwanted CC: intact. Now the OP starts receiving a chain of unwanted e-mails. I guess nobody has done that when replying to me, since I've experienced no such chain. While it is certainly possible to filter out just such nonsense, and personally I feel that reporting it as SPAM since it effective is, doing so would probably not bode well for the list's reputation.. SPAM (in capital letters) is a canned precooked meat product made by the Hormel Foods Corporation. (-; - -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQCVAwUBTBVywaipC46tDG5pAQoqGwQAjYh1Sg5+0cQRYrbDWfoaP1BoT3cdQe/G o7n3PDyvQxGwfxJWVBKVQR4Fh72KKCVUgc0tFhnsPWgPVjf7iwgx1Cp4W8Sc6m5S Jr6cr90tM3kIid5MvJQQNn6N+zi2+RT+dCnGS9dztelO1+VdUL1ype/pQ/3HNP9R zPXBcRmHl3k= =lsUD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [OT] Re: Test mail to gnupg.user
SPAM (in capital letters) is a canned precooked meat product made by the Hormel Foods Corporation. (-; Which is pretty good when sliced thin, pan fried and put on a toasted English muffin with spicy mustard! ___ Sonja Michelle Lina Thomas sonjamiche...@gmail.com I realized fear one morning, when the blare of the fox-hunters sound. When they are all chasing after the poor bloody fox, it's safer to be dressed like a hound. On 6/13/2010 19:07, MFPA wrote: Hi On Sunday 13 June 2010 at 7:37:33 PM, in mid:20100613143733.7baf8...@scorpio, Jerry wrote: While it would appear that most users direct their replies back to the list, there are a few morons who feel it is their sworn duty to CC: the OP. After my first few postings to this list, I received a complaint from somebody whose post I replied to, for not copying my replies directly to the OP. I amended my reply template to do so, and have received no complaint since. It gets worse; another user unintentionally replies to just such a message with the unwanted CC: intact. Now the OP starts receiving a chain of unwanted e-mails. I guess nobody has done that when replying to me, since I've experienced no such chain. While it is certainly possible to filter out just such nonsense, and personally I feel that reporting it as SPAM since it effective is, doing so would probably not bode well for the list's reputation.. SPAM (in capital letters) is a canned precooked meat product made by the Hormel Foods Corporation. (-; -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: [OT] Re: Test mail to gnupg.user
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Sunday 13 June 2010 at 6:12:54 PM, in mid:201006131912.55...@thufir.ingo-kloecker.de, Ingo Klöcker wrote: Hmm, I never read anywhere that this would be the etiquette of this group. It's certainly not mentioned on the listinfo page of gnupg-users. Also, most people seem to reply to list only. When I first posted here, I wondered why I kept getting copies of replies to my posts sent directly to my address as well as via the list. Soon, somebody corrected me for not copying them in on my reply to their post as well as sending it to the list. They told me that was the etiquette here. Since my experience at the time supported that statement, I duly set up my reply template to do just that. I can't remember who that was, and probably no longer have a copy of the message. I still often receive copies of replies to my posts directly as well as via the list; sometimes both addresses are in the to field, but more often one or other is a cc. I still have my reply template set up to do the same. - -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com No man ever listened himself out of a job -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQCVAwUBTBV2c6ipC46tDG5pAQpzmgP8CuvmihkXJiSBMNfjwENzEe4qaC2Ibxu1 mDHHOdefWk3HZ7zhvT3/M0BqCRBr32cpTS/aw7bSjpneZTKgSzUizAfBoP6wyEQN peRewNNUT/ena3A06E/627R5Zm1Ux9GO3nrF0iyJxFS5zUk9sbHjn6NDwGX0CF6+ P8PLRZ75pr0= =yGjw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users