Re: mascot_p
- Message from MFPA 2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net on snip... Some animal that hides stuff? A squirrel? Or just a nice animal, OK, that rules out a squirrel: it is essentially a rat with good PR. (-; Perhaps it's just PR, but they seem to live in better neighborhoods--e.g., trees, wooded areas rather than sewers. ;-)___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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Am 17.06.2014 21:48, schrieb Mark Rousell: Maybe a mask of some sort Unfortunately I think people associate masks with having something (negative) to hide. Perhaps people shouldn't see it that way but they seem to do so. I think as a mascot some kind of animal is better, because it might be more attracting to new users that a rather 'cold' robot. unless you can crate a really cute robot of course! something like wall-e from that disney (?) picture. -- kind regards daniel krebs ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 01:56:45PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 08:45:26 -0400 Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu wrote: What sort of mascot would combine the two aspects? Racoon? Easily recognised so an allusion to identity there. Their face has a 'mask', alluding to privacy. Yes, but that's the opposite of what I meant. A digital signature does not hide one's identity, but asserts it rather loudly and (we hope) provably. -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Tuesday 17 June 2014 at 11:18:09 AM, in mid:53a015e1.2030...@digitalbrains.com, Peter Lebbing wrote: I think a mascot would be nice. Is there some especially secretive animal? A squirrel? Some animal that hides stuff? A squirrel? Or just a nice animal, OK, that rules out a squirrel: it is essentially a rat with good PR. (-; - -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Dreams come true on this side of the Rainbow too! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iPQEAQEKAF4FAlOjLhxXFIAALgAgaXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3Bl bnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEJBMjM5QjQ2ODFGMUVGOTUxOEU2QkQ0NjQ0 N0VDQTAzAAoJEKipC46tDG5ptIoEAK36kDVeHwsXLv69nSlU5vJUbwExgQH8wd/y Gl3gvDE+HH6NGxwN3bRrkoTu8QLOrFTWYbjGWSlOFS10pEIdk7QHzvMR23/sFGCO W3qlQznVmZuWMZhSc4DODTBAT25CpmhImsTZEHRCInlHRzvCmPR3v80zazjTDZ9H DD8tpxdS =LkEG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Tuesday 17 June 2014 at 9:00:32 PM, in mid:53a09e60.3080...@dougbarton.us, Doug Barton wrote: On 06/17/2014 09:24 AM, Johannes Zarl wrote: A project mascot is certainly a great idea. Can I take a curmudgeonly view here, and ask why? I wondered that, too. - -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Colourless green ideas sleep furiously (Noam Chomsky) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iPQEAQEKAF4FAlOjLpVXFIAALgAgaXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3Bl bnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEJBMjM5QjQ2ODFGMUVGOTUxOEU2QkQ0NjQ0 N0VDQTAzAAoJEKipC46tDG5p4d0D/3xeQRBnUej5LZXaqsP1lxEstkUiMltS2Wqp lAsZ3ndNBbEOvYiIg0HjQgPFRPnOB76/Wa4z0sCMJLSWXaTkTrkoal3qhK8gCjOI Gfv6YtqgitgcMK6Lu3xE0PpjiWQd0o/RBwY7uoZCN5WaSsYaHeMwG71ICfFC5Tm1 wxX4KQVV =qlwZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 08:48:59PM +0100, Mark Rousell wrote: On 17/06/2014 18:47, Mick Crane wrote: Unfortunately I think people associate masks with having something (negative) to hide. Perhaps people shouldn't see it that way but they seem to do so. -- Mark Rousell So instead of Mask. Think Helmet used to protect! Wolf signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On 17 Jun 2014, at 21:05, Erik Josefsson erik.hjalmar.josefs...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/17/2014 08:12 PM, Bob (Robert) Cavanaugh wrote: My Vote is for the armadillo, pangolin, or hedgehog. All cutecuddly until you try to look too close... Hedgehog is taken :-) http://sirireiter.dk/edge/ The turtle ( teenage mutant ninja ) is ok because it shows armour but also they are slow normally so probably making it look faster somehow would be a good thing, with wings ? ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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Assuming that there *should * be a mascot, the discussion seems to concentrate on the secrecy aspect of GnuPG. But what about the other aspect -- assertion of identity? Does that spark any ideas? What sort of mascot would combine the two aspects? -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 08:45:26 -0400 Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu wrote: Hello Mark, What sort of mascot would combine the two aspects? Racoon? Easily recognised so an allusion to identity there. Their face has a 'mask', alluding to privacy. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent You're not so safe in the safety of your room Nasty - The Damned signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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I think a mascot would be nice. Is there some especially secretive animal? Some animal that hides stuff? Or just a nice animal, something cuddly like a pufferfish. Erm. Peter. -- I use the GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) in combination with Enigmail. You can send me encrypted mail if you want some privacy. My key is available at http://digitalbrains.com/2012/openpgp-key-peter ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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Hi, I think a mascot would be nice. Is there some especially secretive animal? Some animal that hides stuff? Or just a nice animal, something cuddly like a pufferfish. Erm. Peter. Yes or may be an animal with two Gnus like the old smartcard GnuPG V1 logo with the new GnuPG logo (padlock) on their bellies ? Best Regards ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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Am Di 17.06.2014, 11:36:11 schrieb Werner Koch: Hi, the guy I am working with on a new website, recently asked why we do not have a mascot like many other projects. But something similar to a mascot. I would like to point at this: http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2013-July/046969.html That wasn't about GnuPG specifically but about OpenPGP in general though (which seems much more useful to me). And for those who understand German (or consider the Google translator fun): http://www.crypto-fuer-alle.de/wishlist/mitmach-symbol/ This is even more general and IMHO the biggest chance to really change the game (especially with little effort) – in contrast to a project or even standard logo. I have the promise of the c't editorship to support this – if somebody else gets it done. Hauke -- Crypto für alle: http://www.openpgp-schulungen.de/fuer/unterstuetzer/ http://userbase.kde.org/Concepts/OpenPGP_Help_Spread OpenPGP: 7D82 FB9F D25A 2CE4 5241 6C37 BF4B 8EEF 1A57 1DF5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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At Tue, 17 Jun 2014 11:36:11 +0200, Werner Koch wrote: the guy I am working with on a new website, recently asked why we do not have a mascot like many other projects. What's your opinion on that? How about an Octopus? As I understand it, they like to try and open locks. Neal ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:58, mailinglis...@hauke-laging.de said: And for those who understand German (or consider the Google translator fun): http://www.crypto-fuer-alle.de/wishlist/mitmach-symbol/ Well, we already decided on a logo a couple of years ago. Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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the guy I am working with on a new website, recently asked why we do not have a mascot like many other projects. What's your opinion on that? I'd go for Terry, the Tinfoil-Hatted Terrapin, myself. :) ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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Am Di 17.06.2014, 13:51:05 schrieb Werner Koch: On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:58, mailinglis...@hauke-laging.de said: And for those who understand German (or consider the Google translator fun): http://www.crypto-fuer-alle.de/wishlist/mitmach-symbol/ Well, we already decided on a logo a couple of years ago. That's what my first remark referred to. I guess you have misunderstood the linked text: That is not specific to GnuPG, OpenPGP or any other standard or tool at all. Hauke -- Crypto für alle: http://www.openpgp-schulungen.de/fuer/unterstuetzer/ http://userbase.kde.org/Concepts/OpenPGP_Help_Spread OpenPGP: 7D82 FB9F D25A 2CE4 5241 6C37 BF4B 8EEF 1A57 1DF5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:04:20PM +0200, Neal H. Walfield wrote: At Tue, 17 Jun 2014 11:36:11 +0200, Werner Koch wrote: the guy I am working with on a new website, recently asked why we do not have a mascot like many other projects. What's your opinion on that? We have one, but it's a secret. :-) How about an Octopus? As I understand it, they like to try and open locks. Alas, the octopus is already associated with GitHub: https://octodex.github.com/original/ -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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At Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:00:52 -0400, Mark H. Wood wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:04:20PM +0200, Neal H. Walfield wrote: At Tue, 17 Jun 2014 11:36:11 +0200, Werner Koch wrote: the guy I am working with on a new website, recently asked why we do not have a mascot like many other projects. What's your opinion on that? We have one, but it's a secret. :-) How about an Octopus? As I understand it, they like to try and open locks. Alas, the octopus is already associated with GitHub: https://octodex.github.com/original/ That looks more like a cat... Neal ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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FWIW, I was thinking of a stylized version of something like this: http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j24/joebnfran/blog%20pics2/octopus.jpg (Found here: http://hideousseacreatures.tumblr.com/post/61030684038/octopi-will-keep-trying-to-kill-you-after-theyre-dead) Neal ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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First -- yes, I would love to see Terry the Tinfoil-Hatted Terrapin become our mascot. We've got a very businesslike logo; a mascot is an opportunity for playfulness. And what better way to poke a little good-natured fun at ourselves? Second -- okay, if the Tinfoil-Hatted Terrapin strikes a little close to home (maybe some of us *are* terrapins: certainly, though, no one on this list could ever be accused of wearing a tinfoil hat), I'd propose something else entirely: the coelacanth. Why? Well, because I've got this really weird and inexplicable fondness for them. They're a fish that's been around for 400 million years or more, has basically given evolution the middle finger and dared Darwin to kill it off more times than a Bruce Willis action movie, and ... well ... it has *style*. The coelacanth also suggests Time, big-T Time. (Like 400 million years' worth.) Given how often we wind up talking about brute-force analysis and the megayears and megatons required and how much of an extinction-level event it would be, a fish that's survived four hundred megayears and several mass extinctions would be ironically appropriate. Here, have a cool photo of a coelacanth: http://bio1151.nicerweb.com/Locked/media/ch34/34_18Coelacanth.jpg ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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UPR 12.04r1, ( https://www.privacy-cd.org/en ), Ubuntu Privacy Remix's new bootable modified Ubuntu static install disc, with GnuPG and Truecrypt already on it, has a very cute 3D armored robo-lizard on it's boot screen. (no picture available on the UPR site ;-(( ) Maybe an armored robotic #D Gnu might be a consideration. vedaal ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On 17 June 2014 11:04:20 BST, Neal H. Walfield n...@walfield.org wrote: How about an Octopus? As I understand it, they like to try and open locks. And more! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/05/nro-satellite-logo_n_4394577.html Simon -- Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On 17/06/2014 15:55, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: [...] Maybe an armored robotic #D Gnu might be a consideration. Oh yes, excellent idea. :-) -- Mark Rousell PGP public key: http://www.signal100.com/markr/pgp Key ID: C9C5C162 ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/17/2014 02:36 AM, Werner Koch wrote: the guy I am working with on a new website, recently asked why we do not have a mascot like many other projects. What's your opinion on that? An armadillo? A pack rat? (They are really cute.) A tortoise? - -- James Moe moe dot james at sohnen-moe dot com 520.743.3936 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlOgc7gACgkQzTcr8Prq0ZPaIACgjH8fMQgP/SeE0Piuq6ay8iwq F9MAn1rOd5QpvgVCGMt4y2R/nuzI0Hla =B2RW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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My Vote is for the armadillo, pangolin, or hedgehog. All cutecuddly until you try to look too close... Thanks, Bob Cavanaugh -Original Message- From: Gnupg-users [mailto:gnupg-users-boun...@gnupg.org] On Behalf Of James Moe Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:59 AM To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org Subject: Re: mascot_p * PGP Signed by an unknown key On 06/17/2014 02:36 AM, Werner Koch wrote: the guy I am working with on a new website, recently asked why we do not have a mascot like many other projects. What's your opinion on that? An armadillo? A pack rat? (They are really cute.) A tortoise? -- James Moe moe dot james at sohnen-moe dot com 520.743.3936 * Unknown Key * 0xFAEAD193(L) ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On 17 Jun 2014, at 17:53, Mark Rousell ma...@signal100.com wrote: On 17/06/2014 15:55, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: [...] Maybe an armored robotic #D Gnu might be a consideration. Oh yes, excellent idea. :-) Maybe a mask of some sort ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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Hi, A project mascot is certainly a great idea. In my opinion a mascot and a logo have different purposes and can beautifully complement each other. The logo stands for the product and has to follow certain rules in its design. A mascot, on the other hand stands more for the whole community and can create ties between several projects much more easily. On Tuesday 17 June 2014 09:45:03 Robert J. Hansen wrote: First -- yes, I would love to see Terry the Tinfoil-Hatted Terrapin become our mascot. We've got a very businesslike logo; a mascot is an opportunity for playfulness. And what better way to poke a little good-natured fun at ourselves? I was going to suggest a hedgehog (it's likeable, generally favours security over speed, and knows to protect itself), but a terrapin sounds great. Now I just have to find out the difference between a terrapin and a turtle… Cheers, Johannes ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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I was going to suggest a hedgehog (it's likeable, generally favours security over speed, and knows to protect itself), but a terrapin sounds great. Now I just have to find out the difference between a terrapin and a turtle… The Algonquin tribe of Native Americans, originally living in Virginia, had a word for turtle: torope. American settlers adopted this word and over the last 400 years it's been corrupted into terrapin. As a result, terrapin has become a common American synonym for turtle, but the word's rarely used in the rest of the world. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On 17/06/2014 18:47, Mick Crane wrote: On 17 Jun 2014, at 17:53, Mark Rousell ma...@signal100.com wrote: On 17/06/2014 15:55, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: [...] Maybe an armored robotic #D Gnu might be a consideration. Oh yes, excellent idea. :-) Maybe a mask of some sort Unfortunately I think people associate masks with having something (negative) to hide. Perhaps people shouldn't see it that way but they seem to do so. -- Mark Rousell PGP public key: http://www.signal100.com/markr/pgp Key ID: C9C5C162 ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On 06/17/2014 12:14 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: I was going to suggest a hedgehog (it's likeable, generally favours security over speed, and knows to protect itself), but a terrapin sounds great. Now I just have to find out the difference between a terrapin and a turtle… The Algonquin tribe of Native Americans, originally living in Virginia, had a word for turtle: torope. American settlers adopted this word and over the last 400 years it's been corrupted into terrapin. As a result, terrapin has become a common American synonym for turtle, but the word's rarely used in the rest of the world. Your etymology may be correct, as well as the common usage; but in zoology a turtle is an animal that lives only in the water, a tortoise is an animal that lives only on the land, and a terrapin moves between the two. Doug ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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Your etymology may be correct, as well as the common usage; but in zoology a turtle is an animal that lives only in the water, a tortoise is an animal that lives only on the land, and a terrapin moves between the two. Huh! Learn something new every day. If you have a source for that, you may wish to edit the Wikipedia page for turtles, which does not make that distinction. (Wikipedia, wrong about something? Imagine that...) ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On 06/17/2014 09:24 AM, Johannes Zarl wrote: A project mascot is certainly a great idea. Can I take a curmudgeonly view here, and ask why? On one hand that question is Should we do it at all? and on the other hand it's a question of, If we're going to do it, what purpose would be trying to achieve? The latter question helps inform the discussion about what kind of mascot would be the best choice, if we decide to do it at all. I'm aware of the whole unite the community and other aspects involved in having a mascot, but I wonder how much more united the community could be. :) Doug ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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Learn something new every day. Indeed. Thank you both for teaching me about the subtleties of the English language *and* some biology! Johannes ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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On 06/17/2014 08:12 PM, Bob (Robert) Cavanaugh wrote: My Vote is for the armadillo, pangolin, or hedgehog. All cutecuddly until you try to look too close... Hedgehog is taken :-) http://sirireiter.dk/edge/ License --- This artwork is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of either CC-BY-SA-3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ or the GNU Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later version, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/. http://source.sirireiter.dk/?p=edge.git;a=blob;f=README //Erik ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
