Le samedi 14 mai 2011 à 20:17 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit :

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Jean-Claude Guédon
<jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca> wrote:

> I am not talking about replacing the peer review process. I am talking about
> either complementing it with another system, or re-aiming the peer review
> process on publishing processes that rely on the repositories rather than
> the journals.

Complementing peer review is fine, but the complement that's really
urgent (and already long overdue) is OA.


Indeed, and to get OA, you need some incentives. Creating complementary and
alternative forms of value around repositories (including OA journals) will
help. Just as getting mandates is helping.


Getting a consortium of repositories to take over peer review means
getting them to take over journal publishing. Good luck. 


Again, let us not confuse everything. If repositories complement the evaluation
of already published articles, but with different emphases, and different
objectives (quality rather than competition-based excellence, for example), this
is not publishing, at least not in the traditional sense of the word.

If repositories begin to accept articles whose peer review they organize
themselves, then, indeed, it is publishing. Obviously, a credible peer review
has to rest on more than one institution. This is the reason behind recommending
the formation of repository networks, preferably across national boundaries.

I would see the second hypothesis gradually evolving out of the first one.

(But why? So
far we haven't been very successful yet at getting most authors to
provide OA to their published journal articles either by depositing
them in their repositories or by submitting them to OA journals...)


The lack of success may well be due to the fact that the present modes of
evaluation, especially when used in the context of tenure and promotion
processes, do not seem generally to lead to the conclusion that OA is really
useful to one's career.

Like Stevan, I truly believe there is an OA advantage measured by impact, but,
alas, this conclusion has not penetrated the collective consciousness of
scientists.

My conclusion: let us work all together on all possible and credible hypotheses
that can help OA, including, of course, the quest for mandates.

Jean-Claude Guédon


Stevan Harnad




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