[GOAL] Re: Beall on the open access movement: 3 reasonable points in a sea of nonsense

2013-12-09 Thread Dempsey,Lorcan
I don't remember anybody noting here that it actually appears in a special Open 
Access section of the issue along with nine other contributions.


Debating Open Access (Comments, Non Peer-Reviewed)
http://triplec.at/index.php/tripleC/issue/view/27




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J.M. j.bos...@uu.nl
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Subject: [GOAL] Beall on the open access movement: 3 reasonable points in a sea 
of nonsense

After thoroughly reading Beall's paper I can find three reasonable points 
raised.


-  Speculation on the effect of the price mechanism introduced between 
author and publisher through Gold OA journals with APC's. This is something 
that deserves close attention. It should be interesting to discuss the SCOAP 
model (http://scoap3.org/) in this regard.

-  The supposed absence of the a community function in broad OA 
megajournals. Is that true? Is it to be regretted? Are there alternative 
communities that function separate from the journal proper?

-  The supposed lack of warnings issued by OA advocates against predatory 
journals. I at least partly second Beall here. I myself was taken by surprise 
by the amazing speed with which these bogus journals came to rise. And DOAJ 
waited far too long with more stringent criteria.

All three issues merit further discussion but alas in Beall's paper these 
points are drowning in a sea of unproductive nonsense.

BTW many researchers in my university effectively have a mandate: to publish in 
first quartile impact factor JCR journals .

Jeroen Bosman
Utrecht University Library
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Re: EPrints, DSpace or ESpace?

2003-02-16 Thread Dempsey,Lorcan
 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:50:42 +
 From: Leslie Carr l...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
 To: american-scientist-open-access-fo...@amsci.org

  DS  How much do either [EPrints or DSpace -- or http://cdsware.cern.ch/]
  DS  conform to the OAIS reference model?
 
  SH How much do they *need* to (and why?), in order to provide many years
  SH of enhanced access and impact to otherwise unaffordable research, *now*?

 Quite. OAIS http://ssdoo.gsfc.nasa.gov/nost/isoas/overview.html
 is an unfortunate acronym in that the O (open) and the A
 (archive) clash quite rudely with the same letters in OAI
 http://www.openarchives.org and BOAI http://www.soros.org/openaccess/.

 The Open in OAIS comes from the fact that the standard is open (the
 archives may be closed), whereas OAI and BOAI assume open distribution
 of metadata and open access to texts (respectively). The emphasis on
 Archive in OAIS is a safe place to keep your data; in OAI and BOAI a
 place to distribute your data/metadata from is of paramount
 importance.

This is misleading. The open in OAI is explained in the OAI FAQ on the OAI
website as follows:

---
What do you mean by Open?
Our intention is open from the architectural perspective - defining and
promoting machine interfaces that facilitate the availability of content
from a variety of providers. Openness does not mean free or unlimited
access to the information repositories that conform to the OAI-PMH.  Such
terms are often used too casually and ignore the fact that monetary cost is
not the only type of restriction on use of information - any advocate of
free information recognize that it is eminently reasonable to restrict
denial of service attacks or defamatory misuse of information.
---

This is available from http://www.openarchives.org/documents/FAQ.html

The protocol is agnostic about the business or service environment in which
it is used. The RDN www.rdn.ac.uk for example uses OAI to gather metadata
from its contributing partners in a closed way.

 It is worth noting that the scenarios given in OAIS are without exception
 data archives - enormous collections of database records comprising
 government forms or scientific measurements. In contrast, scholarly
 papers are documents, not data; their purpose is communication rather
 than processing. It is perhaps unsurprising that the users of these
 documents require something different from their archives, accounting
 for Stevan's emphasis on immediacy and access.

This is again misleading. If you look at the following tutorial on the OAIS
website by Don Sawyer and Lou Reich (dated October 2002)
http://ssdoo.gsfc.nasa.gov/nost/isoas/presentations/oais_tutorial_200210.ppt
you will see several examples of document-related scenarios. In fact this
tuturial notes that the OAIS model adopted terminology that crosses various
disciplines and enumerates these as traditional archivists, scientific
data centers, and digital libraries.

 Perhaps there is an unavoidable tension here - for a librarian, an article
 about Cognitive Science can only be an object to be curated, whereas for a
 Cognitive Scientist it is a message to be interpreted and used.

Well ... I would argue that this is also again misleading. Curation and use
are intimately connected: libraries engage in curatorial practices to
support use. A librarian wants to make sure that what was written yesterday
is available for you to use today. A librarian wants to make sure that an
article you write today is available for somebody else to read tomorrow. I
doubt whether you really only want to read today's articles, or to have your
own work unavailable to somebody else tomorrow.

And finally, this is a response to the specifics of Les's note; it does not
comment on the wider discussion of which it is a part.

Lorcan Dempsey, VP, Research, OCLC
http://www.oclc.org/research/