[GOAL] Re: If the sciences can do it… PLOHSS: A PLOS-style model for the humanities and social sciences

2013-01-18 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
The idea of a PLOHSS is one I have discussed with at least one person
who works for PLOS. Personally, I believe the PLOS solution is extremely
important in that it contributes to separating scholarship quality from
journal editorial lines. In other words, in a PLOS-like journal, if the
work is well done, it does not matter whether it is a popular, or a hot,
or frivolous, or a locally relevant, topic, and so on.

The main issue with a PLOS-HSS journal is that HSS journals are strongly
tied to editorial lines. In HSS journals, the editorial line is often as
important as quality concerns. Quite often, HSS Journals are
flag-bearers of interpretive perspectives or schools.

One way, perhaps, to overcome this difficulty is to create a PLOS-HSS
journal that would federate many editorial boards of as many journals.
Each editorial board would thus retain its journal-like identity. When
an article would be submitted to the PLOS-HSS megajournal, every
editorial board could decide whether to evaluate it or not. The result
is that the article could be peer reviewed from a variety of
perspectives including several editorial boards. If accepted, the
article would be published with an acknowledgement of the boards
involved. Any article published with the peer-review of one person
chosen by one particular editorial board would automatically be part of
the content of that journal. As a result, an article could be
associated with several journals, but would appear only once in the
mega-journal. Of course, each journal could repackage the articles it
owns to publish a separate journal (without quotation marks). This
possibility might limit the pains of losing one's editorial identity in
a big mega-journal, but, ultimately, the mega journal would simply
federate boards that would reflect a wide variety of trends, tendencies,
and theoretical choices. 

Given the continuing importance of national languages in the HSS, one
possible principle of aggregation or federation could be based on
language. In this fashion, HSS studies would begin to reorganize
themselves in large linguistic groups. Then further refinements can
appear such as translations of the best papers in the main trade
languages of the world (e.g. English, Chinese, Spanish, Arabic, etc.).
In this fashion, the globalization of HSS studies could begin in
earnest.

Of course, there are many devils lurking in many detail crannies, but
some good thinking should allow overcome most if not all of them.

Jean-Claude Guédon


Le vendredi 18 janvier 2013 à 12:29 -0500, Omega Alpha|Open Access a
écrit :

 If the sciences can do it… PLOHSS: A PLOS-style model for the humanities and 
 social sciences http://wp.me/p20y83-BF
 
 The Public Library of Science (PLOS) was founded in 2000 as an advocacy group 
 promoting open access to scientific literature in the face of increasingly 
 prohibitive journal costs imposed by scientific publishers. The group 
 proposed the formation of an online public library that would provide the 
 full contents of the published record of research and scholarly discourse in 
 medicine and the life sciences in a freely accessible, fully searchable, 
 interlinked form. ...
 
 Why not create a PLOS-style mega journal for the humanities and social 
 sciences? Admittedly, this is new thinking, especially for humanities 
 scholars whose academic traditions are deep and slow to change. But if it is 
 correct to assert that scholars (do and should) create their own reputation, 
 and if in this online era it is the disaggregated but fully discoverable 
 article not the journal that is really the currency of scholarly 
 communication and reputation, maybe a hosting platform otherwise capable of 
 providing credible peer review would suffice for exposing research to anyone 
 who is interested, in the scholarly community or beyond. While it may not be 
 able to entirely avoid using APCs, it would not make ability to pay a 
 pre-condition to publication. Soliciting institutional sponsorships from 
 monies already in the system, and leveraging the scale of a shared 
 multi-disciplinary online service could make operations sustainable and per 
 article costs low. ...
 
 Late last week I received a tweet from Dr. Martin Paul Eve, a lecturer in 
 English Literature at University of Lincoln, United Kingdom. You may recall 
 back in July I gave a hat tip to Martin for his excellent Starting an Open 
 Access Journal: a step-by-step guide. The tweet linked to a post on his blog 
 soliciting participants to help build a Public Library of Science model for 
 the Humanities and Social Sciences. …
 
 Gary F. Daught
 Omega Alpha | Open Access
 http://oaopenaccess.wordpress.com
 oa.openaccess at gmail dot com
 @OAopenaccess
 
 
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[GOAL] Re: If the sciences can do it… PLOHSS: A PLOS-style model for the humanities and social sciences

2013-01-18 Thread Heather Morrison
It seems that we are equating PLoS with PLoS ONE, the megajournal. Is PLoS 
planning to abandon its original strategy of producing top-quality journals to 
compete with the likes of Nature and Science? If not, some thought about how to 
talk about this might be a good idea. Along this vein, I am wondering if it is 
wise to brand a new humanities and social sciences megajournal after PLoS - at 
first glance it gives the appearance that HSS is considered to be slow and 
lacking in innovation. This is not the case. It is true that there are many 
very traditional publishers in HSS, but it is also true that a large portion of 
the world's STM journals are still being published by Elsevier.

best,

Heather Morrison

On 2013-01-18, at 11:03 AM, Jean-Claude Guédon wrote:

 The idea of a PLOHSS is one I have discussed with at least one person who 
 works for PLOS. Personally, I believe the PLOS solution is extremely 
 important in that it contributes to separating scholarship quality from 
 journal editorial lines. In other words, in a PLOS-like journal, if the work 
 is well done, it does not matter whether it is a popular, or a hot, or 
 frivolous, or a locally relevant, topic, and so on.
 
 The main issue with a PLOS-HSS journal is that HSS journals are strongly tied 
 to editorial lines. In HSS journals, the editorial line is often as important 
 as quality concerns. Quite often, HSS Journals are flag-bearers of 
 interpretive perspectives or schools.
 
 One way, perhaps, to overcome this difficulty is to create a PLOS-HSS journal 
 that would federate many editorial boards of as many journals. Each editorial 
 board would thus retain its journal-like identity. When an article would be 
 submitted to the PLOS-HSS megajournal, every editorial board could decide 
 whether to evaluate it or not. The result is that the article could be peer 
 reviewed from a variety of perspectives including several editorial boards. 
 If accepted, the article would be published with an acknowledgement of the 
 boards involved. Any article published with the peer-review of one person 
 chosen by one particular editorial board would automatically be part of the 
 content of that journal. As a result, an article could be associated with 
 several journals, but would appear only once in the mega-journal. Of 
 course, each journal could repackage the articles it owns to publish a 
 separate journal (without quotation marks). This possibility might limit the 
 pains of losing one's editorial identity in a big mega-journal, but, 
 ultimately, the mega journal would simply federate boards that would reflect 
 a wide variety of trends, tendencies, and theoretical choices. 
 
 Given the continuing importance of national languages in the HSS, one 
 possible principle of aggregation or federation could be based on language. 
 In this fashion, HSS studies would begin to reorganize themselves in large 
 linguistic groups. Then further refinements can appear such as translations 
 of the best papers in the main trade languages of the world (e.g. English, 
 Chinese, Spanish, Arabic, etc.). In this fashion, the globalization of HSS 
 studies could begin in earnest.
 
 Of course, there are many devils lurking in many detail crannies, but some 
 good thinking should allow overcome most if not all of them.
 
 Jean-Claude Guédon
 
 
 Le vendredi 18 janvier 2013 à 12:29 -0500, Omega Alpha|Open Access a écrit :
 If the sciences can do it… PLOHSS: A PLOS-style model for the humanities and 
 social sciences http://wp.me/p20y83-BF
 
 
 The Public Library of Science (PLOS) was founded in 2000 as an advocacy 
 group promoting open access to scientific literature in the face of 
 increasingly prohibitive journal costs imposed by scientific publishers. The 
 group proposed the formation of an online public library that would provide 
 the full contents of the published record of research and scholarly 
 discourse in medicine and the life sciences in a freely accessible, fully 
 searchable, interlinked form. ...
 
 Why not create a PLOS-style mega journal for the humanities and social 
 sciences? Admittedly, this is new thinking, especially for humanities 
 scholars whose academic traditions are deep and slow to change. But if it is 
 correct to assert that scholars (do and should) create their own reputation, 
 and if in this online era it is the disaggregated but fully discoverable 
 article not the journal that is really the currency of scholarly 
 communication and reputation, maybe a hosting platform otherwise capable of 
 providing credible peer review would suffice for exposing research to anyone 
 who is interested, in the scholarly community or beyond. While it may not be 
 able to entirely avoid using APCs, it would not make ability to pay a 
 pre-condition to publication. Soliciting institutional sponsorships from 
 monies already in the system, and leveraging the scale of a shared 
 multi-disciplinary online service could make operations 

[GOAL] Re: If the sciences can do it? PLOHSS: A PLOS-style model for the humanities and social sciences

2013-01-18 Thread Omega Alpha | Open Access
Heather,

PLOS ONE is only one of seven journals published by PLOS. I'm not aware that 
PLOS has any plans to abandon its original strategy. Martin should probably be 
invited to offer his own description and intention (I don't know if he is on 
this list). It does seem, however, that it is specifically the PLOS ONE mega 
journal format that he is looking at as a model for his HSS effort. If there 
is any conflation it's only in the sense of: PLOS publishes PLOS ONE. 
Therefore, PLOS is providing the model for PLOHSS (not through any affiliation, 
just by example).

In any event, as I understand it, PLOHSS is not the official name for the 
effort, it's only a placeholder designation for the initial ideas hub website 
http://www.plohss.org he has setup. See on his blog here 
https://www.martineve.com/2013/01/13/an-update-on-the-plohss-project/, where 
he is soliciting ideas for a name. Also, I believe it was in the Library 
Journal interview 
http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2013/01/oa/qa-martin-eve-on-why-we-need-a-public-library-of-the-humanities-and-social-sciences/#_
 where he indicated that discussions might conclude that they separate the 
humanities and social sciences into subset journals.

At the very least, my take was that by invoking PLOS he is saying HSS should be 
able to have its own online public library of open access article literature.

Gary F. Daught
Omega Alpha | Open Access
http://oaopenaccess.wordpress.com
Advocate for open access academic publishing in religion and theology
oa.openaccess at gmail dot com
@OAopenaccess

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 It seems that we are equating PLoS with PLoS ONE, the megajournal. Is PLoS 
 planning to abandon its original strategy of producing top-quality journals 
 to compete with the likes of Nature and Science? If not, some thought about 
 how to talk about this might be a good idea. Along this vein, I am wondering 
 if it is wise to brand a new humanities and social sciences megajournal after 
 PLoS - at first glance it gives the appearance that HSS is considered to be 
 slow and lacking in innovation. This is not the case. It is true that there 
 are many very traditional publishers in HSS, but it is also true that a large 
 portion of the world's STM journals are still being published by Elsevier.
 
 best,
 
 Heather Morrison
 
 On 2013-01-18, at 11:03 AM, Jean-Claude Gu?don wrote:
 
 The idea of a PLOHSS is one I have discussed with at least one person who 
 works for PLOS. Personally, I believe the PLOS solution is extremely 
 important in that it contributes to separating scholarship quality from 
 journal editorial lines. In other words, in a PLOS-like journal, if the work 
 is well done, it does not matter whether it is a popular, or a hot, or 
 frivolous, or a locally relevant, topic, and so on.
 
 The main issue with a PLOS-HSS journal is that HSS journals are strongly 
 tied to editorial lines. In HSS journals, the editorial line is often as 
 important as quality concerns. Quite often, HSS Journals are flag-bearers of 
 interpretive perspectives or schools.
 
 One way, perhaps, to overcome this difficulty is to create a PLOS-HSS 
 journal that would federate many editorial boards of as many journals. Each 
 editorial board would thus retain its journal-like identity. When an 
 article would be submitted to the PLOS-HSS megajournal, every editorial 
 board could decide whether to evaluate it or not. The result is that the 
 article could be peer reviewed from a variety of perspectives including 
 several editorial boards. If accepted, the article would be published with 
 an acknowledgement of the boards involved. Any article published with the 
 peer-review of one person chosen by one particular editorial board would 
 automatically be part of the content of that journal. As a result, an 
 article could be associated with several journals, but would appear only 
 once in the mega-journal. Of course, each journal could repackage the 
 articles it owns to publish a separate journal (without quotation marks). 
 This possibility might limit the pai!
 ns of losing one's editorial identity in a big mega-journal, but, ultimately, 
 the mega journal would simply federate boards that would reflect a wide 
 variety of trends, tendencies, and theoretical choices. 
 
 Given the continuing importance of national languages in the HSS, one 
 possible principle of aggregation or federation could be based on language. 
 In this fashion, HSS studies would begin to reorganize themselves in large