[Goanet]Re: Goanet meetings in Goa
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Hi Seb, If you read the Goanet Rules and Regulations that are usually posted once a month, you will find the Goanet Admin Team details at the end of the message. Below is the link to the last posting (07Nov03) of Goanet Rules and Regulations that I could find. http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2003-November/006875.html Best wishes - Bosco On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:12:25 +0400, Seb.d'costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Admin Team! Can u'll plz post the names of the goanet admin team (who's who n where he/she is based) for the recently joined goa netters Thnx and best wishes for the Holiday season to entire admin team n Goanetters ! Do keep us posted on Goa meet... Seb.d'costa Ponda/Dubai Happy holidays to Goanetters headed HOME !! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]27 DEC 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
Goanet meets in Goa: Dec 27 at 12 noon, Jan 7 at 4 pm. Meeting point: Kala Academy Canteen, Panjim. See you there! -- GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 27 Dec 2003 FOREIGNER STABBED ON CHRISTMAS DAY: In a shocking incident reported on Christmas Day, a British tourist, Hazel Campbell, was brutally stabbed to death with a scissor by her male companion, Adrian Duggan, at a guest house in Vagator. According to the landlady, the couple had gone to attend a Christmas Eve party and returned at about 4 am on 25 December. Thereafter the couple were heard quarreling and soon Campbell was heard screaming. Police, who rushed to the scene, had to break open the door to the room where they found Cambell dead, in a pool of blood, while Duggan was bleeding profusely. The couple had assaulted each other with the broken blades of a pair of scissors. (GT) CALANGUTE POLICE CRACK BEACH MURDER CASE: Quick thinking detective work by the Calangute police resulted in the Anthony Gonsalves murder mystery at Candolim being solved. Investigators say that the murder was a crime of passion and committed by Gonsalves' wife Shrada Naik, of Ponda, and her alleged lover, Subash Samal of Orissa. (GT) GOVT TO START TWO FAST TRACK COURTS: The State government will start two fast track courts in the city (Panaji), early next year, one at the Junta House building and the other in the Velhos Filhos building, to clear the cases before the trial court as well as before both the district courts. Presently, there are around 30,000 cases pending before these courts. (NT) IFFI, LANGUAGE ROW HOGGED LIMELIGHT: The year 2003 was quite a happening one in the field of art and culture. With Goa being zeroed-in as the permanent venue for the annual International Film Festival of India, a flurry of activities followed.The language controversy was given fresh impetus in January 2003 when the All India Marathi Sammelan president Dr Subhash Bhende stated in Karad, Maharashtra, that Konkani is a dialect of Marathi. Language issues resurfaced yet again during the Konkan Marathi Sahitya Sammelan held at the Kala Academy premises in February. The Parrikar government came under fire from Konkaniwadis for granting Rs.10 lakh for the sammelan. (H) WATER POLLUTION RULED ENVIRONMENT SCENE: Contamination of tap water with sewage in parts of the city (Panaji) in July-August and three Ms-Mhadei, mining and Mala (lake)-were among the issues which dominated the environment scene this year. The seepage of sewage in drinking water was considered as 'a blessing in disguise''-though viral hepatitis laid low many a person later-as it changed radically for the better the way hundreds of restaurateurs and others in Goa thought of food and hygiene. (Looking Back 2003-GT) AWESOME CHRISTMAS CRIB AT RACHOL: Drive down to Ilhas de Rachol to see the giant crib built over an area of nearly 500 sq mt, with mountains, rivers, fields, villages, city, desert and palaces to depict various stage in the birth of Christ. One has to cross two bridges built by the villagers to cover the area. It took 300 pairs of hands, one from each of the 300 homes that dot this village, to construct the crib, dubbed as the largest in the State. (GT) BODY OF MISSING YOUTH FOUND: The Bicholim police found on Thursday (Dec 25) morning the body of a missing youth, Ulhas Chodankar (36), from Mulgaon-Bicholim, at the Assonora river bank. (NT) AT DIVAR FERRY RAMP: An unidentified and decomposed body of a male person that was recovered by the Old Goa police yesterday near the Divar ferry ramp-, has been identified as that of Rajendra Mulgaonkar, a resident of Pernem taluka. (NT) FORGERY CASE REGISTERED: Police in Margao have registered an offence of cheating against unknown persons for forging the signature of the assistant sub-registrar for the purpose of securing a passport. (GT) MORMUGAO CIVIC CHIEF RESIGNS: The Mormugao Municipal Council Chairperson Ramakant Revankar submitted his resignation to the Director of Municipal Administration yesterday. Revankar was largely perceived to be a councilor with a clean image. (GT) GOENCHO AVAZ: Noted Konkani writer Fr Antonio Pereira released the latest issue of Goencho Avaz on the occasion of Goa's Liberation Day at function held at Siridao. The issue takes a balanced look at Goa since liberation, through articles by activists of the major movements that took place in the State. (NT) KUWAIT TASTES GOAN FOLK DANCE: A Goan cultural programme, Goan heritage Nite, was organised in Kuwait, recently, by Club 9, in aid of Daddy's Home, a school for the mentally challenged children in Margao, founded and headed by Fr Valmiki. (H) FONTAINHAS FESTIVAL IN JAN: The Fontainhas Festival of the Arts is a unique festival that has no parallel anywhere else in India. This festival turns private houses into art galleries for eight days early next year. The Goa Heritage Action Group, an NGO based in Goa, has plans to organise this art festival with a
[Goanet]Re: the message from our own Alfredo de Mello (attachment removed)
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:12:42 + (GMT), FERNANDO DO REGO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 27,12. Dear Jose and ALL TGFers Even though I had direct news from Alfredo, I am glad to read your message, specially because I did not know that he was one of the Founding Fathers of the TGF.So let's rejoice together because he is better. TO all of you the good wishes of the Regos for a Happy New Year fernando do rego p.s. In the attachment I include some Goan recipes from a century old book. They are in Portuguese, but can be easily understood and/or our friend jose Colaco can translate and send to all TGF-ers so that they prepare them for their New Years dinner. Happy holidays to Goanetters headed HOME !! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Profile of honorees- Jaycee Creed Awards 2003
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Zone XI (Goa Jaycees) through its premier program- The Jaycee Creed Awards 2003 to be held on 28th December 2003, at 6.30 P.M. in the Hotel Nova Goa Conference Hall, Panaji-Goa,seeks to recognize the contributions of 5 Outstanding Individuals from Goa and India. The following honorees will be felicitated: 1. Mr Jackie Shroff- Jackie first made his mark with Subhash Ghai's film 'Hero', which became a blockbuster and ran for over a year in most parts of the country. He then thundered onscreen with his powerful, award-winning performances in films like 'Parinda', 'Ram Lakhan', '1942- A Love Story' and 'Rangeela'. The man's charisma has earned him a niche in the industry and established him as one of the top actors of our time. 2. Mr. Alexyz R. Fernandes- Goa's eminent cartoonist who cartoons for daily Herald, weeklies Goa Post and V Ixtt (Konkani) and monthly Goa Today. He has published a few thousand cartoons in Reader's Digest, Indian Express, Illustrated Weekly, Sportsweek, Mid-day, The Afternoon, The Daily, Sunday Observer, Eve's Weekly, Femina, Evening News, Navhind Times, Gulab, Gomantak Times, Weekender, etc . He has participated in numerous shows in Goa, Festival of Cartoons (Switzerland-87), Portugal Telecom Cartoon Festival (Lisbon-96). Cartoons on Goa (Evora, Portugal-1996), etc. He was recently invited at the House of Commons in U.K where Keith Vaz presented Alexyz with gold cuff links and a crystal tumbler, both bearing the House of Commons logo 3. Brahmanand Shankwalkar- Goa's most distinguished Sportsman was first selected to represent India in 1975 as their goalkeeper at the 17th Asian Youth Championship at Kuwait and was a member of the senior Indian football team from 1976 till 1986 and as captain from 1983 to 1986. For his outstanding contribution, the All India Football Federation deservedly honored Brahmanand by declaring him the Player of the Decade 1985-1995, an award he received at the hands of the Prime Minister at Calcutta on 17th December '96. He is also Goa's first Arjuna Award(India's most prestigious sports award) recipient. 4. Dr Datta Kumar V. Naik - a product of St. Xavier's Mapusa who showed that youngsters given the opportunities in Goa can even receive a Certificate of Recognition from the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). He is presently a Scientist occupying one of the top positions at NASA. 5. Mr Ravindra Kelekar- Eminent and celebrated Konkani litterateur who has to his credit several books and writings including his most recent Amorer (At Twilight)- a collection of writings. Kelekar has been motivated to write by two factors, one -inspirational creativity and the other, his tenacious ambition to make the Konkani language prosperous in terms of literature. All are cordially invited. Season's Greetings to one and all yours sincerely, Jc HGF Sadashiv Shirsat (Chairman and Zone President- Zone XI) Jc JFM Sudesh Borkar EVP/IPZP Jc HGF Pravin Sabnis (Zone President Elect-2004) Jc Kedar Amonkar ( Host President- Panaji Jaycees) Jc Sandeep Heble( Host President- St- Inez Jaycees) (The Goa Jaycees website is at http://www.goajaycees.org and Indian Jaycees website is at http://www.indianjaycees.org ) ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Gomant Vishwa Samellan
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Eddie's recapitulation of the past history of NRI Conventions is factually correct and I do not dispute it. I also do not dispute Aires' right to hold his own view of the forthcoming Sammelan, but only beg to differ from it for reasons explained in my earlier posts. Incidentally, it is NOT meant to be a convention restricted to NRIs, but a convention of all Goans getting Together for Goa for promoting a Goa Vision 2012. Perhaps for the first time, public participation is being sought to resolve Goa's problems by bringing together all the stake-holders on a common platform. Having attended the Executive Committee meetings for the past few months, I can vouch for the intensive efforts and planning that have gone into organising the convention. This by itself may not guarantee its success, if the participation is poor. The convention may well fail to achieve its objectives, but it certainly won't be due to want of motivation or effort on the part of the organisers! I apologise to Vivian for misunderstanding the purpose of his proposed NRI Association. As I see it, it's purpose is basically the same as that of the World Wide Goans, which unfortunately could not be sustained. Any attempt to bring together Goans of all hues (NRIs and locals) is to be welcomed and supported! ---Tony Correia-Afonso. == From: A.Correia-Afonso. Address: 542 Pulvaddo, Benaulim, Goa 403716, India. 'Phone: 91-832-2772063 Fax: 91-832-2772062 (prior intimation) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]27 DEC 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 27 Dec 2003 FOREIGNER STABBED ON CHRISTMAS DAY: In a shocking incident reported on Christmas Day, a British tourist, Hazel Campbell, was brutally stabbed to death with a scissor by her male companion, Adrian Duggan, at a guest house in Vagator. According to the landlady, the couple had gone to attend a Christmas Eve party and returned at about 4 am on 25 December. Thereafter the couple were heard quarreling and soon Campbell was heard screaming. Police, who rushed to the scene, had to break open the door to the room where they found Cambell dead, in a pool of blood, while Duggan was bleeding profusely. The couple had assaulted each other with the broken blades of a pair of scissors. (GT) CALANGUTE POLICE CRACK BEACH MURDER CASE: Quick thinking detective work by the Calangute police resulted in the Anthony Gonsalves murder mystery at Candolim being solved. Investigators say that the murder was a crime of passion and committed by Gonsalves' wife Shrada Naik, of Ponda, and her alleged lover, Subash Samal of Orissa. (GT) GOVT TO START TWO FAST TRACK COURTS: The State government will start two fast track courts in the city (Panaji), early next year, one at the Junta House building and the other in the Velhos Filhos building, to clear the cases before the trial court as well as before both the district courts. Presently, there are around 30,000 cases pending before these courts. (NT) IFFI, LANGUAGE ROW HOGGED LIMELIGHT: The year 2003 was quite a happening one in the field of art and culture. With Goa being zeroed-in as the permanent venue for the annual International Film Festival of India, a flurry of activities followed.The language controversy was given fresh impetus in January 2003 when the All India Marathi Sammelan president Dr Subhash Bhende stated in Karad, Maharashtra, that Konkani is a dialect of Marathi. Language issues resurfaced yet again during the Konkan Marathi Sahitya Sammelan held at the Kala Academy premises in February. The Parrikar government came under fire from Konkaniwadis for granting Rs.10 lakh for the sammelan. (H) WATER POLLUTION RULED ENVIRONMENT SCENE: Contamination of tap water with sewage in parts of the city (Panaji) in July-August and three Ms-Mhadei, mining and Mala (lake)-were among the issues which dominated the environment scene this year. The seepage of sewage in drinking water was considered as 'a blessing in disguise''-though viral hepatitis laid low many a person later-as it changed radically for the better the way hundreds of restaurateurs and others in Goa thought of food and hygiene. (Looking Back 2003-GT) AWESOME CHRISTMAS CRIB AT RACHOL: Drive down to Ilhas de Rachol to see the giant crib built over an area of nearly 500 sq mt, with mountains, rivers, fields, villages, city, desert and palaces to depict various stage in the birth of Christ. One has to cross two bridges built by the villagers to cover the area. It took 300 pairs of hands, one from each of the 300 homes that dot this village, to construct the crib, dubbed as the largest in the State. (GT) BODY OF MISSING YOUTH FOUND: The Bicholim police found on Thursday (Dec 25) morning the body of a missing youth, Ulhas Chodankar (36), from Mulgaon-Bicholim, at the Assonora river bank. (NT) AT DIVAR FERRY RAMP: An unidentified and decomposed body of a male person that was recovered by the Old Goa police yesterday near the Divar ferry ramp-, has been identified as that of Rajendra Mulgaonkar, a resident of Pernem taluka. (NT) FORGERY CASE REGISTERED: Police in Margao have registered an offence of cheating against unknown persons for forging the signature of the assistant sub-registrar for the purpose of securing a passport. (GT) MORMUGAO CIVIC CHIEF RESIGNS: The Mormugao Municipal Council Chairperson Ramakant Revankar submitted his resignation to the Director of Municipal Administration yesterday. Revankar was largely perceived to be a councilor with a clean image. (GT) GOENCHO AVAZ: Noted Konkani writer Fr Antonio Pereira released the latest issue of Goencho Avaz on the occasion of Goa's Liberation Day at function held at Siridao. The issue takes a balanced look at Goa since liberation, through articles by activists of the major movements that took place in the State. (NT) KUWAIT TASTES GOAN FOLK DANCE: A Goan cultural programme, Goan heritage Nite, was organised in Kuwait, recently, by Club 9, in aid of Daddy's Home, a school for the mentally challenged children in Margao, founded and headed by Fr Valmiki. (H) FONTAINHAS FESTIVAL IN JAN: The Fontainhas Festival of the Arts is a unique festival that has no parallel anywhere else in India. This festival turns private houses into art galleries for eight days early next year. The Goa Heritage Action Group, an NGO based in Goa, has plans to organise this art festival with a
[Goanet-news]SEASON'S SPECIAL: Making DD's Rome of the East (from PARMAL)
Goanet meets in Goa: Dec 27 at 12 noon, Jan 7 at 4 pm. Meeting point: Kala Academy Canteen, Panjim. See you there! -- The paintings in the churches of Goa form an exquisite chapter in the rich and many-faceted tradition of painting in India. Goa's was the first meaningful and complete experience of the Indian artist with the styles of European painting. Making DD's Rome of the East By Benoy K Behl The Paintings of India is a series of twenty-six documentaries which covers the history and development of painting in India, from pre-historic times till the present day. The making of these films was a most exciting journey which took us not only to all corners of the country, but also to many museums around the world. Though the great sculptures of India have been known to be among the finest in the world, Indian paintings have been in the shadow. The Indian mural paintings of the ancient period are among the greatest paintings of mankind. Owing to the fact that these exist in remote sites, scattered all over the country and that many of them are extremely difficult to film in their dark and constricted locations, this great treasure of the world's art has never been clearly photographed or shown to the world before. The paintings in the churches of Goa form an exquisite chapter in the rich and many-faceted tradition of painting in India. A journey through the development of the art, over the centuries in India, would be incomplete without including these paintings. Rome of the East was conceived as the sixth film of the series. As research for this film began, I found that there was no previous material to read on the paintings in the churches of Goa, nor could we find any expert who could speak about these paintings. The Embassy of Portugal was helpful and put me in touch with an authority on art who came from Portugal. However, he also knew of no book on the subject. Finally, while shooting in Goa, architect and musician Lucio de Miranda was able to provide us an article written in Portuguese, which made a reference to Goan church paintings. The Embassy of Portugal later helped us translate the article into English. Such was the scarcity of research material on the subject! Fortunately, over the past twenty-five years, I have been photographing and studying Old Goa and the joyous Indo-Portuguese art and culture of this sunny state. Thus, I have been aware of the beautiful paintings in the basement of the Convent of Santa Monica, the paintings around the casket of relics of St. Francis Xavier, the oil paintings on canvas in St. Cajetan and other works in the many churches. This film shaped itself and grew around my personal knowledge and love of the splendid city of Velha Goa. In the sixteenth century, on the banks of the Mandovi river, the Portuguese built the magnificent capital city of Old Goa or Velha Goa. This became one of the most important ports in India. It also became the nerve centre of the Portuguese Empire in Asia. Portuguese commercial interests and religious orders, covering the area from the East coast of Africa to China and Japan, were centered here. Old Goa was a great commercial centre. Whether it was precious stones and spices that went to Europe, or whether it was the Arabian horses which the Portuguese traders sold to the Indian kingdom of Vijaynagar, they all went through here. The relationship between Portugal and Goa was not restricted to commerce alone. The Portuguese made this picturesque coastal land their home. They brought with them a new religion and culture. They believed it was their duty to convert the local people to Christianity and to show them what they believed was the True Path. They built magnificent houses of God in this land. The idea was to inspire and convert the local people through awe and grandeur and power and majesty. In the sixteenth century, Old Goa was known as the Rome of the East. Within a small space there were so many churches, that there are on record letters which were written to the King of Portugal by the priests here saying that, their choirs and our choirs, their bells and our bells, there is cacophony here. The religious ideas came from Europe, but the churches of Goa were made by Indian hands and quite often transformed by the Indian heart. The craftsmen who made these churches had their own images in their minds. In the Basilica of Bom Jesus, the saints are seen standing on lotuses, much the way that Hindu deities are made. Within these magnificent houses of God, a great treasure of religious art was created. Paintings were brought from Lisbon and from Rome. These were used to teach Indian painters new subjects and a new manner of painting. In fact, in Goa, European techniques and materials of painting were introduced long before the British set up their first art schools in India. The Se Cathedral was
[Goanet]SEASON'S SPECIAL: Making DD's Rome of the East (from PARMAL)
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- The paintings in the churches of Goa form an exquisite chapter in the rich and many-faceted tradition of painting in India. Goa's was the first meaningful and complete experience of the Indian artist with the styles of European painting. Making DD's Rome of the East By Benoy K Behl The Paintings of India is a series of twenty-six documentaries which covers the history and development of painting in India, from pre-historic times till the present day. The making of these films was a most exciting journey which took us not only to all corners of the country, but also to many museums around the world. Though the great sculptures of India have been known to be among the finest in the world, Indian paintings have been in the shadow. The Indian mural paintings of the ancient period are among the greatest paintings of mankind. Owing to the fact that these exist in remote sites, scattered all over the country and that many of them are extremely difficult to film in their dark and constricted locations, this great treasure of the world's art has never been clearly photographed or shown to the world before. The paintings in the churches of Goa form an exquisite chapter in the rich and many-faceted tradition of painting in India. A journey through the development of the art, over the centuries in India, would be incomplete without including these paintings. Rome of the East was conceived as the sixth film of the series. As research for this film began, I found that there was no previous material to read on the paintings in the churches of Goa, nor could we find any expert who could speak about these paintings. The Embassy of Portugal was helpful and put me in touch with an authority on art who came from Portugal. However, he also knew of no book on the subject. Finally, while shooting in Goa, architect and musician Lucio de Miranda was able to provide us an article written in Portuguese, which made a reference to Goan church paintings. The Embassy of Portugal later helped us translate the article into English. Such was the scarcity of research material on the subject! Fortunately, over the past twenty-five years, I have been photographing and studying Old Goa and the joyous Indo-Portuguese art and culture of this sunny state. Thus, I have been aware of the beautiful paintings in the basement of the Convent of Santa Monica, the paintings around the casket of relics of St. Francis Xavier, the oil paintings on canvas in St. Cajetan and other works in the many churches. This film shaped itself and grew around my personal knowledge and love of the splendid city of Velha Goa. In the sixteenth century, on the banks of the Mandovi river, the Portuguese built the magnificent capital city of Old Goa or Velha Goa. This became one of the most important ports in India. It also became the nerve centre of the Portuguese Empire in Asia. Portuguese commercial interests and religious orders, covering the area from the East coast of Africa to China and Japan, were centered here. Old Goa was a great commercial centre. Whether it was precious stones and spices that went to Europe, or whether it was the Arabian horses which the Portuguese traders sold to the Indian kingdom of Vijaynagar, they all went through here. The relationship between Portugal and Goa was not restricted to commerce alone. The Portuguese made this picturesque coastal land their home. They brought with them a new religion and culture. They believed it was their duty to convert the local people to Christianity and to show them what they believed was the True Path. They built magnificent houses of God in this land. The idea was to inspire and convert the local people through awe and grandeur and power and majesty. In the sixteenth century, Old Goa was known as the Rome of the East. Within a small space there were so many churches, that there are on record letters which were written to the King of Portugal by the priests here saying that, their choirs and our choirs, their bells and our bells, there is cacophony here. The religious ideas came from Europe, but the churches of Goa were made by Indian hands and quite often transformed by the Indian heart. The craftsmen who made these churches had their own images in their minds. In the Basilica of Bom Jesus, the saints are seen standing on lotuses, much the way that Hindu deities are made. Within these magnificent houses of God, a great treasure of religious art was created. Paintings were brought from Lisbon and from Rome. These were used to teach Indian painters new subjects and a new manner of painting. In fact, in Goa, European techniques and materials of painting were introduced long before the British set up their first art schools in India. The Se Cathedral was
[Goanet]Testing Times for Teachers!
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Navhind Times on the Web: Goa The report in the local newspapers makes interesting reading. No comments: The matter is subjudice. HC orders inquiry into GU merit list for microbiology admission NT Staff Reporter Panaji Dec 23: The Panaji bench of Bombay High Court has directed the Vice Chancellor of the Goa University to conduct inquiry into the preparation and finalisation of the notified merit list by the officials of the University for the admission to post graduate course in Microbiology. A division bench comprising Mr Justice A M Khanwilkar and Mr Justice P V Hardas ordered inquiry into the possibility as to whether the notified merit list was the outcome of genuine mistake, misunderstanding or misreading of the relevant provision by the officials connected with the preparation and finalisation of that list or whether it was deliberate attempt to subserve the interest of any student in collusion with the officials of the University. The Court further said, in either case university to take appropriate corrective and remedial measures against the concerned officials as well as the student(s) as per the law, forthwith. The Court passed the judgment following petitions filed by the students challenging the admission process of Post Graduate course in Microbiology for the year 2003-04 academic year. The petitions were filed by Ms Sharvaree Naik, Ms Brenda Rodrigues and Ms Shirley Correia. While referring to its observation in the judgment, the Court said, We further direct the University to issue fresh guidelines regarding preparation of merit list for the future admissions as per the observations made in Para 8 of the judgment. Disposing the petitions, the Court directed the University to continue the admission already granted to the petitioners, and in addition to this, grant admission to four students in the notified merit list for the present academic year 2003- 2004 and allow them to take up second semester which is to commence in January, 2004 on condition that each of them will fulfill necessary requirement of successfully completing the first semester, at later point of time as permissible by the Rules. The Court also made it clear that correctness of the allegations made by Ms Sharvaree Naik regarding harassment will have to be thoroughly inquired into by the one-man committee constituted for that purpose. It may be recalled that the allegations of harassment were made against the professors of Goa University and others. Regarding the assurance given by the professors, the Court said, We accept the assurance so given to us by the said persons and we hope and trust that they would abide by the assurance in its letter and spirit. We also hope that in the event if any untoward incident is brought to the notice of the Head of the Department or the Vice Chancellor, as the case may be, by any aggrieved student, that shall be examined with utmost dispatch and corrective measures be adopted. The bench observed that the Court is not inclined to precipitate the matter by issuing any formal notice to the persons named in the statement by the student because we are conscious of the fact that those persons are associated with academic institution and wedded to its cause. They are indeed discharging yeoman service for the building of a holistic society. Navhind Times on the Web Viva Goa Miguel ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Reprehensible Act!
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- There are two issues here: 1.The act of the ABVP activists in blackening the face of the Goa University teacher and 2.The act of the teacher in harrassing the students allotted to him for M.Sc. in Microbiology. Both acts are reprehensible and need to be condemned. I am not talking of Sharvaree Naik. The fact that Belinda, Flory, Dona, Soraya and other students quietly sufferred and completed their M.Sc. does not mean that Dr.Joe D'Souza was a saint then. He is perhaps paying the price for their silent tears. This six papers and three papers [at B.Sc.]concept is humbug. Almost any average 'life sciences' student can pass the M.Sc. in Microbiology without much academic effort. What really gets tested is one's patience. Perhaps this is the reason why there are very few boys in these courses. I condemn the act of blackening a teacher's face, on the campus or otherwise. No two ways about that. The university must identify and punish these students,or have them punished by the institutions in which they are enrolled. In addition the CM/Home Minister and Education Minister,Shri Manohar Parrikar must move the law enforcing agencies to punish these 'uneducated' but literate persons who are a blot on society. We need to separate the chaff from the grainamongst the students and amongst the teachers. Viva Goa. Miguel Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:51:38 +0530 From: Tony Correia-Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Reprehensible Act! Whatever be the alleged grievance, the recent attack by AVBP activists on Prof. Joe D'Souza in his office in the Microbiology Dept. of Goa University must be roundly condemned. Since both the Education and Home portfolios are with Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar, it is incumbent upon him to initiate appropriate action to ensure that the guilty are punished. ---Tony Correia-Afonso. == --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Nice one
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- SHE'S A KATLIC, MEN! Thou shalt drink Thou shalt jive' If there were commandments requiring you to be a 'Katlic', those would be the first two. 'What to do, men?', I always find myself facing people who exclaim What, Men! you don't drink! What kind of Katlic are you?' (As though the Pope decreed it) Then as if the answer to the next question would redeem me, they hastily ask, 'Do you jive?' An affirmative nod saves my soul and I am admitted back into the fold. By religion we are Roman Catholic, because we are governed by the Church in Rome, not because we have dual passports. By culture and our peculiar accent, we're Katlic or 'Mack' (MakKaPau) as people refer to us after they've known us for two sentences. How can anyone miss the 'What men?' (Where the 'men' comes free with every sentence quite oblivious to the fact that you're woman). Or other phonetic jewels like 'tree' (for three), Tirty (for thirty) 'aahks' (for ask), 'doll'(for dhal), 'dat' (for that), or 'faader/mudder' (for father/mother) that I would like to believe is some dialect of German. But Nein, its trademark. 'Mack' talk Then what! is another gem of a rejoinder. But pronounced 'Den wot. And of course who can forget the famous Mack dismissive line 'Wot goes of yours?' or even more pointedly 'Your fadder what goes?' Of the several theories that float around, one says 'Mack' is a derivative of 'makka-pau' (bread and butter, the other way around) because, supposedly, that's what Katlics eat first thing in the morning!!! The drinking of course, we're sure of. Michael daru peekay danga karta hai from the film Majboor tells a small part of the story. We drink at Holy Communion parties, Christenings, at other festivals too. We drink on Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays... You get the picture. But comes the Lenten Season, abstain from it for the whole period of 40 days or more. And of course we drink at those crazy carnivals called Katlic weddings. Where you dress up, quaff wine, trip on the confetti, stride in the Wedding march, get sozzled, eat potato chops, vindaloo, sorpotel, pork roast, do the mandatory Birdie dance, throw the bouquet and finally wake up the neighbours with off-key renditions of 'He's a jolly good fellow' as you zig-zag home And next morning criticize the Bride's dress, the ring, the make- up, the cake, the food just about everything. Katlics love to sing. Wherever there's a Mack -gathering, not counting funerals, there's a sing-song session. 'My Bonnie lies over the ocean', 'When the saints go marching in' and the quintessential Annie's song. Not forgetting 'Show me the way to go Home' No Mack party is complete without a guitar and at least one sloshed uncle who will be dragged home by embarrassed relatives Katlics mourn with the same passion, wearing black at funerals and for months after, and fasting with fervour at Good Friday. But as December comes around, you'll find Crawford Market and Hill Road besieged by Katlics from Vasai, Myra (Mira) Road, Bandra, Maim (for Mahim), Dhobi Talao and Marine Lines, taking home so much lace you are not quite sure whether it's for the dresses or the curtains!!! At Christmas, Katlics make kul-kuls, newries, Bebinc, marzipans, guava cheese and the mandatory Christmas cake. And wine which is drunk by the gallon. And go to midnight mass at 8p.m. Then in the 30degrees centigrade heat, they wear jackets and ties to Willingdon or Catholic Gym and jive the night away. Though being a Katlic may be more about cultural togetherness than going to mass every Sunday, we religiously fulfil the requirements. To be a really Good Katlic, you must go inside the church. They have a name for people who don't..'Outstanding Katlics'. If you are a Katlic, you subscribe to the 'Examiner' where Katlic girls search for Katlic boys with 'sober' habits and own accommodation. Canadian or Gulf NRI's are prize catches. Good Katlics go to confessions. When we were kids, we knelt in the dark confessional and sincerely asked for forgiveness. And got off with a couple of 'Hail Marys'. The sins were standard: 'I beat my sister' and 'I told lies in school'. Of course when we grew up we either stopped going or confessed to only the simple sins and hoped God would get the others telepathically. We didn't want to give old Father Andrew a minor heart attack. Besides, by then our idea of what constituted a 'sin' had changed. And there's just so many Hail Marys one can say. Redemption would demand a lot, lot more. Good Katlic girls anoint themselves after every four-letter word and go to confession the morning after their wedding night. Katlic boys are in a different league altogether. They simply play hockey or football till
[Goanet]Gomant Vishwa Sammelan
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Dear Jorge, In the armed forces, the men wear either their 'uniform' or 'civvies'. The difference is only in the colour and type of fabric: the regulation blacktrousers and white shirts are in effect also 'uniform.' In Government service there are 'officials'and 'non-officials'.Both are 'officially' appointed: one category is paid salary, the other category receives an honorarium, sitting fee or stipend depending on rank and role. Chandrakant Keni is an officially appointed Chairman who is a 'non-official' . You are right; Tony is not wrong. That's jargon. Viva Goa. Miguel - Original Message - From: Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] What do you mean by non-official honorary Chairman, Tony? We all know that Chandrakant Keni is the Honorary (i.e. without any emoluments) Chairman of the NRI Facilitation Centre. But was he or wasn't he appointed by the Government of Goa? If yes, he cannot be deemed to be non-official, can he? Jorge From: Tony Correia-Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] one of its officers has been deputed as a Nodal Officer to the Cell, it does not function directly under the EDC management but under a non-official honorary Chairman Mr. Chandrakant Keni. ---Tony Correia-Afonso. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Luso-Indian , GOANS or Mesticos
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Dear Sir/Madam [EMAIL PROTECTED] It has come to our attention of the oversight in your posting on the webpage http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/roots/asian/angloindians/angloind ians. In the information on this website, you appear to lump / combine Luso-Indian , GOANS or Mesticos. This is a gross mis-representation! Mesticos are descendants of Portuguese-Goan/Indian marriages. Goans are not of mixed blood but rather pure descendant of Asian-Indians who lived under Portuguese rule for close to 500 years. This difference does not mean that one race is superior and the other is inferior. It does mean we all have our heritage and are proud of it. There is no terminology called Luso-Indians which appears to be a direct translation of Anglo-Indians. We hope you will correct this glaring error on your part which affects the description of GOANS in Goa, through out the world and most specially the Goan in the UK. I thank you in anticipation for your attention to this matter. Gilbert Lawrence, MD, DMRT, FRCR. Utica, NY, USA ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]RE: Rebuking the gorrment
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Rebuking the gorrment: We thank Tony Correia-Afonso for participating in Goanet. As a direct or indirect member of the gorrment / NGO / NRI center he can address many concerns affecting NRIs and NRGs and also clarify other issues related to them. In fairness to him, we cannot hold him or the NRI cell responsible for all the ills or the perceived ills of the Goa gorrment. It is for the non-resident Goans to work with the NRI cell/ institution and shape it with constructive suggestions to maximize its benefit to the NRI/NRG. No gorrment is going to solve all of society's problems for all times. That is why these guys receive an ongoing salary to resolve these on-going problems. And that is why the people go to the polls every five years. The social ills need to be kept in perspective. No rape or murder or for that matter roadside accident is acceptable. And one such incident is one too many. But the government cannot prevent all these social ills of society. That is like someone holding the doctor responsible for the sickness that occurs or for people who die from cancer. Many ills may be better addressed by society itself rather than seeking the government to be the answer to all of Goa's problems. To Tony Correia-Afonso, hang in there buddy. I think you are doing the best and being honorable and helpful. Sometimes you may feel it does not pay to be nice. I know you are doing your finest! But some Goenkars may feel your greatest efforts are not good enough. Regards, GL, NY ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: the message from our own Alfredo de Mello
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Alfredo De Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Dear José, SORRY --- i THOUGHT I HAD SENT YOU this merssage three days ago to wishe you a meery Xmas, but it seems that the mail never went off' I can explain that I have been from the 3rd Dec. to the 20th December in the Intensive Care unit of our hospital, due to angor chest pains, and was finally subjected to a cathetherization, and the surgeons found a severe obstruction in the right coronary: angioplasty and the placement of a stent was performed, and I am back at home to spend Christmas, with my family, which went off very well. My brother Victor his wife Maria will visit me in January, where we shall spend some days in our beachhouse. I had planned a cruse in the Caribbean, and a surprise visit to you in the Bahamas, but unfortunately, thhis is no longer possible, as the Dr. does not allow me to travel thus far for some time. Please give my best greetings to the friends in TGF who might remember me, sorry for the typing mistakes - my eyesight is not getting any better: unfortunately I am not able to read as I used to, - only for half an hour with special glasses and a magnifying glass --- too bad, one must take it in stride, bearing in mind that I am almost 80. All good wishes to yourself and Ema. Alfredo My dear Alfredo, Thank you so much for your message. I had thought of telephoning you - when your message arrived. Good to hear that you are back home after your visit to the surgeons. I am forwarding this reply to TGF. I am sure that EVERYONE on TGF will be happy to hear from one of TGF's founder members. Ema and I are presently in Coral Gables, Florida for the Christmas break. We have just brought your mother's On the Soul of an Indian Woman book and placed it in our personal library here. As it is a 1942 (Tipographia Rangel) print, we will have the cover laminated - to protect the book. Your Goa and mine - is changing rapidly. There are many beneficial changes especially in terms of education and technology. But many unsavoury changes have occured. Among them Crime and Corruption. There is very little one can get done without offering a bribe or a kickback. Some months ago, a colleague wrote to me that he HAD to offer kickback's to doctors who were referring patients to him - or else, he wouldn't get any referrals from them. There is also some srious REVISION going on. I predict that in a few years, Goa will be known as Gomantak, and The Catholic Religious ceremonies will be held in Sanskrit. ( Gomantak later to be known as Maharashtrawadi Gomantak? ) Just recently, the Goa Govt honoured over a hundred members of the Rt. Wing RSS (amigos de Hindu Mahasabha) from outside Goa as Freedom Fighters. They were probably PRAYING for the Portuguese to leave. Prayer is important I suppose. This was a slap on the face of genuine Freedom Fighters like your father and many others. But so be it. But What did our valiant Goa based Freedom Fighters and Goa Journalists do ? That is another story (;-) Our own Goa Journos are busy spreading revision and some very pure lies. Having said that - our friend Ben Antao and I were chatting (over the phone) about you, and so also Fernando do Rego. Our prayers and good wishes are with you. Keep well and do keep in touch. God Bless you and your family. All the best for 2004 Ema ani Jose = The Goan Forum Website http://www.thegoanforum.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]CHRISTMAS JOY
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[Goanet]Venue change for Young and not so young Goans meet up on the 29th
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Hi everyone, It turns out that one of the gang is related to the owner of a shack in Candolim. She is pulling all the strings she can to make sure we get the royal treatment while we are there. Anyway, we are now meeting up at at shack called Calamari. It is a shack on Candolim beach opposite a roadside restaurant called Congo. Its on the road leading to Fort Aguada in Sinquerim. The date and time are unchanged - ie. 12 noon on the 29th of Dec. Everyone is welcome to join us. At last count, there were about 30 people who expressed interest in joining us. Please help spread the word!! Marlon ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Crucifying trees in the City of Panjim
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- -- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- - Crucifying trees - The corporation of the city of Panjim in its enthusiasm of illuminating the waterfront parts of the city seems to have given a free licence to the contractors to use three inch long iron nails for attaching the decorative strips of electric bulbs. These iron nails would permanently damage the trees. This act of killing the trees, by slow death was brought to the notice of the Mayor. Near Azad Maidan, inside the Mermaid Garden and all along the D.B.Bandodkar road, one can see the use of nails driven hard inside the trees. I counted 10-40 nails on single trees. More than 100 trees are affected. The festival of lamps could be a good idea as a novelty, but using the trees as if they are dead wooden poles has exposed the butchering spirit of the Corporation and unfortunately now it is too late to repair the injury. In my report (August 2000) on the trees of the Panjim city I had already cautioned the PMC chairperson and the councilor Ms. Patricia Pinto about such practice. The Mayor has also disappointed me by not taking action against pouring of the concrete near the root zone of the trees, as one can see near the Braganza Garden. All the trees need some space at the base, near the roots to expand and for drainage. Burying the trees in concrete and asphalt is an act of butchery. The Corporation would be held responsible for premature death or collapse of any trees injured by the nails and action of concrete and asphalt. After a telephonic talk with Mayor on Dec. 22 morning, I was happy that Ashok Naik was concerned and promised action. I had assured him that I would not make this an issue in press. But after a detail survey I found that the damage is permanent and some palms in the Mermaid Garden may start dying soon. The Corporation has not added much to the arborial wealth of the city. I am compelled by my conscience as a citizen to bring the above facts to the notice of the public. A mass mortality of these trees could be expected during the monsoon 2004. The gains of the festival of lights would be neutralised by the arborial losses. Do not crucify the trees for artificial lighting. Illuminate your souls with some compassion. I have grown with these trees as a child and as a student studying in the city since 1966. Their loss is my loss. And if you think with a little compassion, may be yours as well. Dr. Nandkumar Kamat, Member, Goa State Environment Protection Council -- in Readers Speak HERALD 24/12/03 page 6 --- === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]See you in the RAUL column, Mr Nair!
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Fred Noronha wrote: [Goanet-Admin Team has neither the inclination nor time to 'investigate' statements made those postings to this list. The issue of faked IP addresses being used to post abusive and insulting matters onto this list has been a matter of discussion among individual members of this list though.] Thank You Mr. Noronha. I understand. Here is Mr. Nair who has confused someone else with me and made an insinuation.which is blatantly false. I understand. It does take a lot of time to find out Vivek's IP address and compare it to mine. Yep! Thank you. In any event, I believe that the point has been made. The point being that Mr. Nair has been advised of the error he has made. Time alone will tell us if Nair will be man enough to come forth with an apology or correction in the place he made the ghuspott. good wishes to all Let's hope we all have a Happy and Peaceful New Year jose __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet-news]Who's going to show up?
Goanet meets in Goa: Dec 27 at 12 noon, Jan 7 at 4 pm. Meeting point: Kala Academy Canteen, Panjim. See you there! -- Goanetters, if you want (and can) put a face to the email addresses, do come along for the informal meets in Goa on Dec 27 (12 noon, Saturday) and Jan 7 (4 pm). We'll meet up informally at the Kala Academy canteen. What happens thereafter depends on who shows up... and if we can agree on where's a suitable place to eat out (if there's interest in this). Dr Santosh Helecar is in town. Have exchanged photos with this guy, spoken to him on phone, know his dad, but never met him so far. Augusto Morais from Ribandar is in to. So are Eddie Fernandes (UK) and Marlon (Goacom). Joel and me are anyway around in Goa itself. Herman and Vivian(a), the other two members of the admin team, will be in Goa in early January. Bosco is stuck in the cold and is holding the fort in Canada. I hope other regulars like Aires, Tony CA, Miguel Braganza, Floriano (great to see you back on email), the many silent Goanetters reading this list back in Goa and whoever else is in town can make it. FN -- Frederick Noronha: http://www.fredericknoronha.net Ph 0091.832.2409490 Freelance Journalist : http://www.bytesforall.org Ph 0091.832.2409783 http://fredericknoronha.blogware.comCell 0 9822 122436 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Dear Fred and/ or Bosco, please investigate this blatant Nair abuse
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Goanet-Admin Team has neither the inclination nor time to 'investigate' statements made those postings to this list. (The issue of faked IP addresses being used to post abusive and insulting matters onto this list has been a matter of discussion among individual members of this list though. But that is another matter ) What *is* relevant to Goanet however is the violation of the Goanet rules. Some individual posters -- which could be pseudonyms too -- have been persistently indulging in such a behaviour. Specifically (i) the use of abusive terms in carrying out the debates (ii) using deliberatively provocative postings and hate-based arguments, which could be seen as meant as flame-baits to incite people on the basis of ethnic origins, religion, etc. This is a general reminder to all concerned to stay within the Goanet rules while posting to this list. FN On Thu, 25 Dec 2003, Jose Colaco wrote: Dear Fred/Bosco May I request that you investigate the following NAIR claim of someone in Uganda sharing the same ISP as me in Nassau? you know about IP addresses and the rest - please do the needful. I await a public correction and apology from Nair sincerely jose colaco FYI I have a dyanamic Cable Bahamas IP address 24.244.174.65 - 24.244.190.200 in Nassau and what appears to be a static DSL IP address in Florida 65.80.16.171 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]bharati rule
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- (Bernado Colaco worte: When I reffered to you as a mallu, Goanet decided to block my post. I know that truth hurts.) Phew! What's so hurtful about being a Mallu, Colaco? Will you feel hurt if I call you a Goan? I'm proud to be called a Mallu. As for Goanet blocking your post, I've nothing to do with it. I guess it must be due to your demented bullshitting. (BC: Goa should be ruled by Goans. Bharati neo colonialism is a failure.) Pray who's ruling Goa now? Do you mean that Ravi Naik, Rane and Willy D'Souza are not Goans? What's this Bharati neo colonialism that you blabber about? Please explain that. Then we decide whether it's a failure or not. (BC: Our foreign exchange earned for the past 4 decades has gone to help the bharati economy. The local puppetry now go to the Non Resident Goans with begging bowls to save Goa.) What foreign exchange are you talking about? The income from mines? Who're you trying to kid, Colaco? Do you really believe that the Indian economy runs on a handful of iron ore mines in Goa? For your edification, it's the other states, whom you so contemptuously refer to as bharatis, that subsidise the Goan economy. Please come and take a look at the Goa of today. Does it look anything like the impoverished colonial backwater that it was when taken from the Portuguese? As for State ministers and business delegations going abroad seeking investments from NRIs, including Goans, I would like to inform you that they are not seeking alms as you seem to think. They are trying to convey a message of liberalised policies back home and inviting them to invest in their homeland. Is asking someone to do business with us tantamount to begging? If you think yes, then I would say it's better than robbing other's wealth, which was what the colonialists did with the help of quisilings like you. Now, I don't want to enter into any further argument with you for the reason I had mentioned in one of my earlier postings. You're incorrigible! -- R.K. Nair _ Send DD, pay no commission. http://server1.msn.co.in/msnleads/suvidha/dec03.asp?type=hottag Click here. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]Re: Utopian Goa
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Tony, Hindi is not the official languange of India but a (one of the) official languages of India. Constitutionally, Hindi has the same status as any of the other languages -- including Konkni and English -- encompassed in the 8th Schedule of the Constitution of India, close to 30, I believe. Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, 2003-12-26 From: Tony Correia-Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Re: Utopian Goa Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:44:23 +0530 Ref. Cornel's following query in a recent post: Can someone please explain what the word bharati means? It has not been part of the vocabulary I have encountered. The Constitution of India defines the nation as India that is Bharat i.e. both terms can be officially used to describe the country. In general practice India is used in English and Bharat in Hindi - the national language. The term Bharati is therefore synonimous with Indian. ---Tony Correia-Afonso. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]European Portugues V/s Indian Portuguese.
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Ola Senhor Radakrishna Nair, Esta ouvir or ja dormiu,abaixa de caixa. Great Mrs. V. Fernandes what an article, must say you are indeed a very well read person, hope your light of knowledge spreads to the rest of Goans. Must thank you for that. Vivek --- A. Veronica Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Dear A. Veronica, Thank you for your good wishes for the season. Would you remember the exact text of the lesson about MAS (b.1835)in the text book you mentioned, and what it said about the Portuguese respect for the Goans? Did it mention what were the activities of MAS in Africa as captain of Manica and Quiteve, as *feudal lord* of Barue and Gorongosa and son-in-law of the African princes Xipapata and Gambate Machouta? Apparently (?)he lived with many other women *n'hanhas*, who guarded his vast landed properties and *aringas*. MAS always maintained that his lands were not his, but belonged to the Crown of Portugal. However, there were complaints that he never paid any dues to the Crown as the Bungos did! For his collaboration with Portuguese authorities to put down the revolt of Bungos in 1887, he was guest of the Portuguese royal family and even delivered a speech at the Sociedade de Geografia in Lisbon during a session dedicated to him! Teotonio R. de Souza The above was posted on this forum on 21st of this month by Dr. Teotonio R. De Souza. In reply to this I would like to comment as follows: I do not clearly remember the exact details of that lesson on Manuel Antonio De Souza whose statue was erected at Mapusa and later on destroyed, in its place now Ghandijis monument is lying. I still do not remember if the lesson was from the book or from any article on that great Goan brought by our Professor Oliveira from Calangute. Prof. Oliveira was a very kind hearted Goan, he loved Goa and Goans especially the students coming from poor strata of society. In this connection I think he lectured on Manuel Antonio De Souza when his monument was officially declared opened at Mapusa. Prof. Oliveira even said that see how nice it is on the part of Portuguese Government of Goa to give honourable place and respect to a Goan. This is the only thing I can remember very well and extremely well so far. About Portuguese respect to Goans, yes I must also admit that European Portuguese respected Goans more than Indian Portuguese from beyond the borders of Goa. Portuguese respected Goan identity but later on Bharati Portuguese who forcibly occupied Goa are trying to dilute Goa and Goans in an ocean making them non-entity. I am not a supporter of Portuguese rule in Goa, Goa is not Portuguese fathers property neither it is of any one elses to treat it ugly. It is purely a property and monopoly of Goans and they alone should have been left to decide their future without outside interference. After all havent Mozambiqans and Angolans done soon after the bloodless revolution in Portugal brought in by the book Portugal e Futuro by Gen. Antonio Espinola 12 years after the forcible ouster of Portuguese from Goa? No doubt Portuguese made us to bow down before their white skin but in the post 19.12.61 period Bharatis made us to stoop down before the white Gandhi (Nehru?) Topi and that too in the name of liberation? The best beneficiaries of post 19.12.61 period in Goa are the Naiars, Kuttys, Menons, and all such people who came to Goa not only to earn but also to destroy Goa. The industrial peace of Goa was spoiled by one Nair from Kerala. It is thru these types of Naiars that Kerala is become unwanted for the industrialists to create more fertile industries. The trade union activities are become so powerful in Kerala that labour unions can do anything. It is good to support the labour and workers but due to one negative aspect of it industrialists are shying away from the land of Naiars to pump in industries there. For this reason Malyalis are spreading everywhere because of lack of employment facilities in their state which is otherwise known to possess best of manpower available anywhere in India. This best of manpower is become worst of unwanted elements and to our regret low quality of Naiars, Menons, Kuttys and others invaded Goa and in the name of their third class educational degrees we Goans soon after 19.12.61 adored them because such degrees were few in Goa. Even our Church leaders having educational institutions under their possession welcomed them with open arms. The first
Re: [Goanet]Utopian Goa
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- MR.Nair, Not supposed to be in uganda but I am very much in Uganda taming wild animals like you, when you see no support coming to your articles against portuguese that is the time you go wild, so all you need is indeed a Goan like me who can tame you.Mr. Nair if you are in Goa and abusing goans with all those names then you should pack up and go to a crackpot place, outside Goa, and I can see the day not very far for Guys like you move out soon from Goa. What are you talking about bharati, come out of the village and see for your self who are migrating out of the so called bharat it is your tribesmen, who have formed a clout everywhere,who follows the dignified and respectful pledge and the national anthem of India in priciple it has only remained in books and speeches of the politicians, first before you speak volumes of bharati learn to practice them. How many bharatis have benefitted from the Portuguese embasssies in Goa and elsewhere in India , this embassies gave most of the bharatis the platform for greener pastures. Mr. Nair should you want to go ahead with this debate you will be sliced to pieces by many goans who are reading this since no goan will tolerate an outsider abusing him/her. If you are a south indian behave like one since I have a lot of respect for them, you seem to be of the 100th race of south indians, please do not spoil the name of Goans as we goans do not abuse outsiders. Have a great boxing day and take care otherwise you will be boxed to pieces. Vivek -- Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- (Bernado Colaco wrote: I guess Nair speaks of accepting bharati failure in Goa. For more than 4 decades of brainwashing Goans have become naive and guillible in accepting a 3rd world rule.) What is the alternative to bharati rule that you suggest, Colaco? As for India's Third World status, do you know that Portugal is the poorest country in Western Europe, the new Sick Man of Europe? Btw, how come you in Nassau share the same ISP with the other crackpot Vivek, who's supposed to be in Uganda? A Merry Christmas to you once again! -- R.K. Nair _ Murphy's Laws. They are crazy and funny. http://server1.msn.co.in/features/murphy/index.asp Buy the complete book online now! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Yahoo! India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones. Go to http://in.mobile.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Utopian Goa
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Mr. Nair, I have replied to you on your first request but let me summarise this for a respectful person like you. When you say that how I share the same ISP with the other crack pot colaco,(Mr. Colaco is not a crackpot and you have displayed you frustration on the net) As labelling me a crackpot indirectly all i would say yes ONE CRACKPOT RECOGNISES THE OTHER.I do not know who you are and where you come from, unfortunately I am not in goa to show you how peaceful and loving goans like me can define the meaning of CRACK POT legally and physically to you so that next time you know well advance not to abuse anyone with your cracking dictionary. Before I forget Mr. Nair respect is not gained by calling others abusive names, but respecting oneself first. Vivek --- Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- I repeat my question to Vivek: How come you in Uganda share the same ISP with the other crackpot Colaco, who's supposed to be in Nassau? A Merry Christmas to you once again! -- R.K. Nair _ Spread festive cheer. Download X'mas wallpapers. http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/christmas/downloads.asp Get into the mood! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Yahoo! India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones. Go to http://in.mobile.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Dear Fred and/ or Bosco, please investigate this blatant Nair abuse
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Mr. Nair, Firstly you seem to be a well respected writer, and it would not reflect good on you by calling other's crackpot, if you differ on something with someone either debate on it constructively and positively or call it quits, but mudslinging and character assasinating displays ones weakness and loss of confidence.Mr. Colaco is to be equally respected like you, how would you feel if someone had to title you with some abusive names? Mr. Nair if you recall I did write to you about the word PORTUGUESE, this word has given and been giving sleepless nights to respectful people like you, there is always a debate about them. On some it acts as a stimulant while on others it works well . Lastly let not the Portuguese word be a bone of contention, let's learn to admire and respect what they did or left (Good things are never remembered and bad things are never forgotten) you decide what you wnat to remember and forget? Whether you like it or not the presence of portuguese in Goa and their influence in Goa will never be wiped of from history. Greetings of this festive season to you and your family Vivek Jose Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Dear Fred/Bosco First of all - compliments of the Season. May I request that you investigate the following NAIR claim of someone in Uganda sharing the same ISP as me in Nassau? you know about IP addresses and the rest - please do the needful. I await a public correction and apology from Nair sincerely jose colaco FYI I have a dyanamic Cable Bahamas IP address 24.244.174.65 - 24.244.190.200 in Nassau and what appears to be a static DSL IP address in Florida 65.80.16.171 = Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:51:14 +0530 I repeat my question to Vivek: How come you in Uganda share the same ISP with the other crackpot Colaco, who's supposed to be in Nassau? A Merry Christmas to you once again! -- R.K. Nair __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Yahoo! India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones. Go to http://in.mobile.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Who's going to show up?
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Goanetters, if you want (and can) put a face to the email addresses, do come along for the informal meets in Goa on Dec 27 (12 noon, Saturday) and Jan 7 (4 pm). We'll meet up informally at the Kala Academy canteen. What happens thereafter depends on who shows up... and if we can agree on where's a suitable place to eat out (if there's interest in this). Dr Santosh Helecar is in town. Have exchanged photos with this guy, spoken to him on phone, know his dad, but never met him so far. Augusto Morais from Ribandar is in to. So are Eddie Fernandes (UK) and Marlon (Goacom). Joel and me are anyway around in Goa itself. Herman and Vivian(a), the other two members of the admin team, will be in Goa in early January. Bosco is stuck in the cold and is holding the fort in Canada. I hope other regulars like Aires, Tony CA, Miguel Braganza, Floriano (great to see you back on email), the many silent Goanetters reading this list back in Goa and whoever else is in town can make it. FN -- Frederick Noronha: http://www.fredericknoronha.net Ph 0091.832.2409490 Freelance Journalist : http://www.bytesforall.org Ph 0091.832.2409783 http://fredericknoronha.blogware.comCell 0 9822 122436 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]LINK: www.kalaacademy.org ... Western music section
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- WESTERN MUSIC The Kala Academy's Department of Western Music was formerly known as Academia de M*sica started during the erstwhile regime in 1952 to popularize Western music, a legacy of long association of the Portuguese with Goa. The traditions of Western Music were gradually introduced in the local way of life including religious singing. A large number of Goans have made their professional mark in Western musical skills not only in India, but abroad. It was therefore found necessary that in Goa, known for the Goa Symphony, orchestras, singers, drummers, pianists and others, the Academia de M*sica becomes an integral part of the Academy to promote and preserve Western music under one roof. Various subjects taught by the Department of Western Music include solo singing, strings, piano, wind and classical guitar. Violin, viola, cello, bass, jazz, trumpet, flute, clarinet are also taught in this faculty. +---+ +---+ The subsidiary subjects include choral singing, sight reading, musicology besides theory, history and general knowledge connected with music. The Department of Western Music has also provided linkages to primary, secondary and college level courses with those of Trinity College of Music, London. ADMISSION (1) Admission is open to all. The minimum age for enrollment is 8 years. Minimum education required is the ability to understand, read and write English. The academic year starts in January. Application forms must reach the office by end of November of the previous year. ++ ++ All applicants will be required to take an aptitude test conducted by a committee consisting of the Director, members of the staff and experts. Students are required to undergo mandatory training in Solfeggio, Ear training, Musical appreciation, and Theory of Music. +--+ +--+ (2) Hobby courses are also available. STAFF - Director (In Alphabetical Order) Alberto Baretto - Guitar Anita D'souza - Violin Devatha Durairaj- Piano and Theory of Music Francis Almeida - Guitar Goretti Vaz- Violin Jean Kalgutkar - Choir Keyboard Harmony Lovella Fernandes - Piano Orlando Vaz - Solfeggio Savio D'souza - Piano Susan Badyari - Flute Tryphan Fernandes - Violin Teresa Figueiredo - Cello/Violin Many foreign artists under the auspices of their respective countries
[Goanet]Death of ex Kuwait Goan Gabru.
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Death of ex Kuwait Goan Gabriel Soares. With deep regret I got the news of the death of ex Kuwait Goan Mr. Gabriel Soares from Agarvaddo Calangute. It was in the obituary column in Herald dated 24th December I noticed his death. Gabriel Soares popularly known in Kuwait amongst his friends and colleagues as Gabru worked in Kuwait for over 25 years for M/s Yacoub Y. Behbehani. He died on 23rd of this month and interred on the next day in the local cemetry of Calangute. The late Gabru was popular amongst Goans in Kuwait before his voluntary retirement from Kuwait about 15 years back. He was staying at Darwaza Abdul Razak where his Flat was always flooded with friend circle. He was a very sociable person involving himself in diverse social and sports activities. He had thin physique but thick mind and was a well read person having vast knowledge of many subjects of world affairs. On World soccer he was like an encyclopaedia and many times he used to share his knowledge with me. A non aggressive man he was always a docile and soft spoken. He was helpful in nature in many aspects. Thru his personal influence he would if possible help Goans in finding jobs. Even he helped financially many people, once given help for the worthy cause he would never ask for its return, that was his sterling quality. He was one of the main persons who helped me to establish G.O.A. (Goan Overseas Association), G.O.A. in the beginning had two soccer teams, one GOA Maroons and the other Whites, later on GOA Whites was disbanded. In the inception year of our soccer at Sour Grounds in 1979 I was playing and captaining Salmiya Youth organised by Peter D'Souza who was that time working for Abdul Aziz Al Mutawa, Bosch Division. As my admirer Gabru always used to come to see me playing and support our team. Along with him was Assumption De Sa another founder member of G.O.A. After that inception year Peter and myself decided to have one strong team and it was my decision to have a team/Club of reputed persons in the committee as well as participants. Hence I confided in Gabru who immediately agreed and till his retiring from Kuwait he remained faithful to G.O.A. working hard for the cause of G.O.A. Along with Gabru who joined to establish G.O.A., soccer mad Assumption De Sa, his brother and president of G.O.A. Raymond De Sa who is become a strong unifying factor of the Club (both from Arpora), John Felix D'Souza (Anjuna), Messias Barreto as Vice President(Candolim), Peter D'Souza (Camurlim), Domnick Correia (Nagoa Bardez) and Pascoal Soares (Calangute younger brother of Gabru). While leaving from Kuwait during the farewell party hosted in his honour, G.O.A. presented its Jersey for Gabru which he always displayed in his house in Goa with pride. Even though he was in Goa he always enquired with me about the activities of G.O.A. and other clubs. When Gulf Goans Hotels Co. was established he was very much active and instrumental in getting share holders for this company. Along with his colleague and friend Assumption De Sa he tried hard to help promotion of this venture which is the only so far of Gulf Goans. In the initial stages he pumped into this company a good amount in the form of shares and pushed me also to get inducted into this venture since in the beginning it was something strange for many of the share holders. Vincente D'Souza was the architecht of this company and Gabru in the initial stages helped Vincente D'Souza to go ahead and because of their tireless work then the Goans from Kuwait under Gulf Goans Hotels Company managed to erect its edifice in the form of Hotel Goan Heritage at Ghavravaddo Calangute. Though he was so helpful for the promotion of this Hotel project yet he never aspired for anything personal glorification for him. Even when once I proposed his name to be one of the Directors of this Company in the meeting held at Shuwaikh Modern Restaurant he politely declined. This shows his humility. For the cause of Goa and Konkani he would support to the best of his abilities. When Konkani movement gained momentum in Kuwait in late 1970s with the initiative of Novem Goem Pratisthan for the starting of Konkani Daily Novem Goem, he was one of the persons who gave his donation without uttering a single word. When I approached him for the donations to send to NGP in Goa, he brought his Cheque Book and gave in my hand and told me to write the amount of my choice. When I insisted that it was his prerogative he refused first but on my further insistence he wrote one thousand rupees and that time it was a big amount when many others gave only one hundred rupees. For the cause of direct flight we organised Tiatro to raise fund, here also he came forward by selling our tickets and arranging
Re: [Goanet]Utopian Goa
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Nair, When I reffered to you as a mallu, Goanet decided to block my post. I know that truth hurts. Goa should be ruled by Goans. Bharati neo colonialism is a failure. Our foreign exchange earned for the past 4 decades has gone to help the bharati economy. The local puppetry now go to the Non Resident Goans with begging bowls to save Goa. Please visit Portugal before you offer some naive comments on this list. Thank you Colaco (Bernado Colaco wrote: I guess Nair speaks of accepting bharati failure in Goa. For more than 4 decades of brainwashing Goans have become naive and guillible in accepting a 3rd world rule.) What is the alternative to bharati rule that you suggest, Colaco? As for India's Third World status, do you know that Portugal is the poorest country in Western Europe, the new Sick Man of Europe? Btw, how come you in Nassau share the same ISP with the other crackpot Vivek, who's supposed to be in Uganda? A Merry Christmas to you once again! -- R.K. Nair Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]European Portugues V/s Indian Portuguese.
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Dear A. Veronica, Thank you for your good wishes for the season. Would you remember the exact text of the lesson about MAS (b.1835)in the text book you mentioned, and what it said about the Portuguese respect for the Goans? Did it mention what were the activities of MAS in Africa as captain of Manica and Quiteve, as *feudal lord* of Barue and Gorongosa and son-in-law of the African princes Xipapata and Gambate Machouta? Apparently (?)he lived with many other women *n'hanhas*, who guarded his vast landed properties and *aringas*. MAS always maintained that his lands were not his, but belonged to the Crown of Portugal. However, there were complaints that he never paid any dues to the Crown as the Bungos did! For his collaboration with Portuguese authorities to put down the revolt of Bungos in 1887, he was guest of the Portuguese royal family and even delivered a speech at the Sociedade de Geografia in Lisbon during a session dedicated to him! Teotonio R. de Souza The above was posted on this forum on 21st of this month by Dr. Teotonio R. De Souza. In reply to this I would like to comment as follows: I do not clearly remember the exact details of that lesson on Manuel Antonio De Souza whose statue was erected at Mapusa and later on destroyed, in its place now Ghandijis monument is lying. I still do not remember if the lesson was from the book or from any article on that great Goan brought by our Professor Oliveira from Calangute. Prof. Oliveira was a very kind hearted Goan, he loved Goa and Goans especially the students coming from poor strata of society. In this connection I think he lectured on Manuel Antonio De Souza when his monument was officially declared opened at Mapusa. Prof. Oliveira even said that see how nice it is on the part of Portuguese Government of Goa to give honourable place and respect to a Goan. This is the only thing I can remember very well and extremely well so far. About Portuguese respect to Goans, yes I must also admit that European Portuguese respected Goans more than Indian Portuguese from beyond the borders of Goa. Portuguese respected Goan identity but later on Bharati Portuguese who forcibly occupied Goa are trying to dilute Goa and Goans in an ocean making them non-entity. I am not a supporter of Portuguese rule in Goa, Goa is not Portuguese fathers property neither it is of any one elses to treat it ugly. It is purely a property and monopoly of Goans and they alone should have been left to decide their future without outside interference. After all havent Mozambiqans and Angolans done soon after the bloodless revolution in Portugal brought in by the book Portugal e Futuro by Gen. Antonio Espinola 12 years after the forcible ouster of Portuguese from Goa? No doubt Portuguese made us to bow down before their white skin but in the post 19.12.61 period Bharatis made us to stoop down before the white Gandhi (Nehru?) Topi and that too in the name of liberation? The best beneficiaries of post 19.12.61 period in Goa are the Naiars, Kuttys, Menons, and all such people who came to Goa not only to earn but also to destroy Goa. The industrial peace of Goa was spoiled by one Nair from Kerala. It is thru these types of Naiars that Kerala is become unwanted for the industrialists to create more fertile industries. The trade union activities are become so powerful in Kerala that labour unions can do anything. It is good to support the labour and workers but due to one negative aspect of it industrialists are shying away from the land of Naiars to pump in industries there. For this reason Malyalis are spreading everywhere because of lack of employment facilities in their state which is otherwise known to possess best of manpower available anywhere in India. This best of manpower is become worst of unwanted elements and to our regret low quality of Naiars, Menons, Kuttys and others invaded Goa and in the name of their third class educational degrees we Goans soon after 19.12.61 adored them because such degrees were few in Goa. Even our Church leaders having educational institutions under their possession welcomed them with open arms. The first students strike in Goa at Arpora School in 1963 was organized thru the instigation of a Malyali teacher and that was the big setback for that great Goan educationist and strict disciplinarian Fr. Mendonca. Most of those days Malyali teachers poisoned the minds of innocent and virgin Goan students who were not accustomed to chicanery and crookedness at that tender age. Good that Goa had little of Naiars besides the bearded one who wanted to convert Goa into another Kerala. It was in front of Pravasi Hotel in Vasco his car was burnt down for creating confusion in Goa. These Naiars, Kuttys, Menons and others from Kerala swamped
