[Goanet] Re: Monorail vs Skybus
<< ... what are the safety measures in place if the sky-train comes to a halt in between two stations? In monsoons? Will the sky-train survive blasts of 75 kmph winds or more? ... questions that I had put to the Konkan Railway web-site a couple of years ago, as yet unanswered. >> Gabriel F Believe the answers to Q8 & Q12 of the FAQ's, appended below, also answer your questions, Gabriel. Lawrence - See http://www.konkanrailway.com/website/skybusmetro/html/faq.html FAQ >> Frequently Asked Questions 8. How are the breakdowns handled? Sky Bus is exactly like a railway line- same standards of operation, except the "train", in our case is only 38m long! Redundancy in driving motors is provided-even if 50% motors fail, the Sky Bus units can haul themselves and clear at the traverser. If all fail, then fellow Sky Bus unit has extra power to push it and take it out at the traverser. 12. What are the safety measures in the system? Compared to conventional railway systems, the center of gravity of the mass being carried on the wheels is bought down to the closer to the wheel support- hence dynamic safety is many time improved In conventional railway wind can topple the trains and in Kerala once, an express train went into river by being toppled by wind!! In Sky Bus wind cannot topple- there is positive link between the rail guidance system and the Bus Coaches- with 400% safety factor built into multiple suspenders. The railway bogies in conventional system have propensity to lose control on derailment, but additional safety in Sky Bus bogie is that we have derailment arresters, which prevents the wheel from jumping off the rails. So we are ensuring that there is no derailment. In normal railway systems, when collision takes place, derailment also occurs, and carriages capsize killing people. But in Sky Bus no collision can take place between the coaches- even after the 3 levels of braking fail and the Sky Bus units hit each other in a collision, the Sky Coaches in which people are traveling, will only swing to and fro- but will not collide with each other nor capsize. B.Rajaram Managing Director Konkan Railway Copyright(c) Konkan Railway 2004 -- PS: If you wish to have a *Gmail* e-mail address, do write to me. Will send you an invitation to open a *Gmail* e-mail account. :-)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Monorail vs Skybus
Lawrence, Your comment in the second para, about Portuguese names etc. is certainly uncalled for, and mischievuous, to say the least! You should apologise unconditionally, to all Goans with Portuguese names! I must say, you have got the KRC and the Skybus 'filters' on permanently; you fail to remove these filters even after the Sky Bus tests have proved themselves a failure, of a big magnitude. Nasci Caldeira From: Lawrence Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: Monorail vs Skybus Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:53:20 +0530 Gabriel, Know not what filters you use to read Averthan D'Souza's posts. I too, believe, the tone and content, are, to put it very mildly, * really unfortunate*. Yes, Averthan may be entitled to his opinion. But, should members of Goanet be subjected to having to read the rantings of those who seem allergic to anyone whose name is not of Portuguese origin? Lawrence
Re: [Goanet] Re: Monorail vs Skybus
--- Lawrence Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gabriel, > >> Yes, Averthan may be entitled to his opinion. But, > should members of > Goanet be subjected to having to read the rantings > of those who seem > allergic to anyone whose name is not of Portuguese > origin? > Lawrence, Rajaram should have stood trial when the demonstration of his pet project not only failed, but resulted in the death of a junior engineer. Coming to the Portuguese times, I wonder if you know what happened to the failed Municipal building in Panjim. Lets see if anyone knows the story - my own recollection is my father's version which was told to me when I was in my mid-teens. In that rectangular space next to the Panjim garden (Garcia de Horta aka Municipal Garden), which has now been converted to some sort of a children's park, stood a building of a style similar to Margao's town hall (or Municipality). As the space was getting cramped, the idea was to build a modern cement-concrete structure in the late 1950s, when the technology was fairly new to the builders of the time in Goa. It collapsed whilst being built. The resultant enquiry found the chief civil engineer (a Goan catholic, whose name I won't mention in case I am incorrect) guilty, with the resultant razing to the ground of the building and the imprisonment of the chief civil engineer. I don't know if any deaths were involved. That is why, 'till today, the Panjim municipality is housed in non-descript buildings, which were meant to be temporary accomodation. Anyway, coming back to Rajaram, I wonder whether any payment has been made to recompense the family of the dead engineer. On the other hand, what are the safety measures in place if the sky-train comes to a halt in between two stations? In monsoons? Will the sky-train survive blasts of 75 kmph winds or more? These are some of the questions that I had put to the Konkan Railway web-site a couple of years ago, as yet unanswered. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Movies: Check out the Latest Trailers, Premiere Photos and full Actor Database. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Re: Monorail vs Skybus
--- Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- karmarkar d <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think the posts by Averthan D'souza are really > > unfortunate. > > > Karmarkar and co do not know the meaning of third world situation. On the other hand Goans are brain washed with lofty projects. B. Colaço ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Re: Monorail vs Skybus
Gabriel, Know not what filters you use to read Averthan D'Souza's posts. I too, believe, the tone and content, are, to put it very mildly, * really unfortunate*. Yes, Averthan may be entitled to his opinion. But, should members of Goanet be subjected to having to read the rantings of those who seem allergic to anyone whose name is not of Portuguese origin? Lawrence -- PS: If you wish to have a *Gmail* e-mail address, do write to me. Will send you an invitation to open a *Gmail* e-mail account. :-)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Monorail vs Skybus
--- karmarkar d <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the posts by Averthan D'souza are really > unfortunate. > Dear Karmarkar, I don't know if you've caught on to what Avertahanus was saying. At this moment in time, there is not much point in spending crores on fancy mass transit systems. Where will the power to power the locomotives come from? The more important issues are those of garbage disposal and infracture like 24x7 water supply, proper drainage, sewage treatment and converting current toilet facilities in every house and building to connect to proper sewage drainage (too may septic tanks can lead to ground-water contamination and proliferation of mosquitoes via improperly installed vent pipes), constant electric supplies, smooth roads, enforce building regulations and ensure that buildings are used for the purpose they were built for. - We've had enough issues with flooding as a result of hurried, improperly-thought-out IFFI hullabaloo, not to speak of massive leaks in the "newly-restored" Kala Academy buildings. - One look at the environs of the INOX theatre will indicate massive pot-holes on the road between the theatre and Don Bosco's school. - The pavements alongside the Campal-Miramar road, whihc were destroyed to make way for the road expansion, have yet to be rebuilt. As a result, people overflow on to the road, making the road expansion practically useless. - Goa requires 24x7 traffic lights installed in the major cities, to ensure proper flow of traffic. This alone will go a long way to make the roads safer for everyone. Once the above issues have been resolved and properly implemented can one think of "spending" on the fancy mass-transit systems, which I am sure require "adequate" supplies of electricity to operate. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Do you Yahoo!? Messenger 7.0: Free worldwide PC to PC calls http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Re: Monorail vs Skybus
I think the posts by Averthan D'souza are really unfortunate. When there is no development, we Goans cry foul and when the Government makes an effort people immediately raise a stink. The Goa Govt has called for a global expression of interest for an Mass Rapid Transit System (MRTS) system and not a monorail only, which means any one can apply including skybus, metro, LRT or anyone else. But let me clear some doubts about the monorail which Mr Averthan is not aware. Monorails operate in most parts of the world. Japan has monorails operating as Mass Transit networks in 11 cities including Tokyo and Osaka. Kuala Lumpur has installed a beautiful monorail system and Chonqing in China has opened a high capacity system to carry over 7 lakh passengers per day! Now if this is not high capacity what is? As for safety, Monorails are the most safe mass transit systems in the world with no operating fatalities in over 100 years of monorail operation. The govt has only decided to call for expression of interest and now many companies will surely apply and the cheapest and best will get this project. BOOT means the shortlisted companies will do their own feasibility studies as they are investing the money and would want to make sure the project is viable rather that depending on a govt study which they might not agree with, remember they are investing and it is not a tender where GoG is spending. This i am sure will lead to employment for thousands of us Goans and increase in business and include Goa on the world Map in a positive way. We should all welcome this proposal and send suggestions on routes etc so that we all can benifit from this wonderful project.
