[Goanet]Correcting Goa's politics
Dear Cajetan, It is important that we remain rooted in facts, always. Goa SuRaj Party is yet to win a village Panchayat seat. I doubt if it will ever win an Assembly seat. Four candidates that used the party could not muster a thousand votes between them in the last election to the Assembly. Elections to the assembly are not won through brownie points on Goanet, much as Floriano Lobo[President for life of GSRP] would like to believe. . From: Cajetan Rego [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whether we should choose the Goa Suraj party: How can we be sure that the Goa Suraj Party will get rid of all Goa's problems? The people who actually do the work are the beaureucrats and Govt. servants. How will Goa Suraj change their lethargic attitude? Sack everyone who does not perform? If they do it, virtually all Govt servants will be sacked. Will Christians be disenfranchised? I think we are simply overreacting by saying that Christians will be disenfranchised by the BJP. Disenfranchising Christians is just not practical in a high-literacy state where the Christian population is significant. A few incidents here and there caused by overzealous people cannot be generalized as an assault on any religion. Not bringing Parrikar back to power, just because of this hypothetical fear, we will be depriving ourselves of an efficient Government. If we cannot appreciate the development Parrikar achieved for Goa, I think we don't deserve any development at all. I am not a BJP activist or party worker and had thought Goa would be ruined when Parrikar came to power 4 years ago. My attitude towards his rule has since changed after seeing his developmental efforts and efficiency. We need an educated and non-corrupt person as the CM. Rather than going with a general hate wave, I would request all readers to apply their mind and elect a progressive Government. Cajetan Rego Comprem, Tivim Goa The literate people are more easily frightened than the illiterate ones. The normal voting percentage of Catholic voters is low. Inject a little fear and it will tend towards zero. If not try to get some witnesses to file statements or affidavits about the Fontainhas name plaque smashing case of 18 June, 2004. It will soon be time to comemorate its anniversary with a requiem mass at St.Sebastian or San Tome chapel. In Dharavi slums there would have been a 'raasta roko' or 'chakka jamm'. The VCD 'Goa Freedom Struggle' was produced by the Directorate of Education and inspired by Manohar Parrikar[ according to the 'credits' on the film]. Was it a stray incident or was parrikar one of the few over-zealous persons? Parrikar gave us an efficient Government which gave us completed bridges [even across the Chapora river between Siolim and Chopdem] that one thought would be forever under construction or ,worse , proposed. If you think it was a non-corrupt government, please re-read Manohar Parrikar's own statements on Mr. 10% Dhavlikar, Mr.Crorepati Monserate and Mr. Corrupt Madkaikar . All the three worthies were part of his non-corrupt government till 28 January,2004. I do not know what Parrikar would have said if his 'stone pelting' Minister for Law and the 'rave king' Minister for Agriculture or 'Belgaum professional' Minister for Forests had deserted him or if there was an alternative to the Disneyland former Minister of Tourism or the latter day ramponkar had a chance of shifting his nets to the otherside. It would be interesting to know his mind. Having said that, if there is a General Election tomorrow, the BJP would win majority of the seats hands down. Its candidate would have my vote, too. We only fool ourselves if we think that Congressmen in Goa will learn any lesson from the past experience. They have no time to think. It would be better for Ravi Naik to shift and lead the MGP to win 7 Assembly seats and become a coalition CM with the support of Bhandaris across party lines, than to be the GPCCI Chief and be a Congress MLA in the wilderness of the opposition benches. Even the one-man-party of Dr.Willy is better of than the Congress in Goa today. At least there is some credibility. Viva Goa. Miguel
[Goanet]Correcting Goa's politics.....
Guys, Gals: If you are pro-Congress, dont get too excited by people abandoning the BJP party and joining the Congress party. That is human nature. Get on the winning bandwagon. As soon as Congress is voted out of power I predict that there will be en-masse defections to the BJP accompanied by horror stories about corruption in the Congress heirachy. This is politics in Goa.
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On 22/04/05, Cajetan Rego [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to express my opinion on a few points people have raised on this topic. Will Christians be disenfranchised? I think we are simply overreacting by saying that Christians will be disenfranchised by the BJP. This is Goa as against Gujarat where explicit official orders were issued to burn houses. Just because such a thing happened there, it does not mean that it will happen here. Disenfranchising Christians is just not practical in a high-literacy state where the Christian population is significant. A few incidents here and there caused by overzealous people cannot be generalized as an assault on any religion. Not bringing Parrikar back to power, just because of this hypothetical fear, we will be depriving ourselves of an efficient Government. RESPONSE: Respectfully I think your reasoning is clouded or blinkered. Parrikar has filled all this faithfuls in Government positions, Catholics were left out en masse. I also quote from today's ebytes:- o Real estate developer, a close Parrikar aide, joins Congress: Prominent real estate developer and builder Dinar Tarcar who was known to be a close associate of the former chief minister Manohar Parrikar joined the Congress party, along with a large number of his supporters and friends Wednesday. Tarcar is a partner of Landscape Developers. Tarcar said the last four-and-half years had been a bad experience in Goa, alleging that there was rampant corruption. Tarcar said the Congress party had a long, healthy and democratic tradition and does not involve in politics of vengeance, and had no dictators. (H) So it seems people are now coming forward with their gripes. Perhaps you are one of those quite happy to tolerate a dictator and someone who will eventually kick your butt. As I have written before the true extent of the corruption will only come to light when a full and complete audit is undertaken by the Governer, hopefully. Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England
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Mr. Rego, Below is what Herald says. I'd like to know your views now ~~~ o Real estate developer, a close Parrikar aide, joins Congress: Prominent real estate developer and builder Dinar Tarcar who was known to be a close associate of the former chief minister Manohar Parrikar joined the Congress party, along with a large number of his supporters and friends Wednesday. Tarcar is a partner of Landscape Developers. Tarcar said the last four-and-half years had been a bad experience in Goa, alleging that there was rampant corruption. Tarcar said the Congress party had a long, healthy and democratic tradition and does not involve in politics of vengeance, and had no dictators. (H) Cheers, Seb Dubai If we cannot appreciate the development Parrikar achieved for Goa, I think we don't deserve any development at all. I am not a BJP activist or party worker and had thought Goa would be ruined when Parrikar came to power 4 years ago. My attitude towards his rule has since changed after seeing his developmental efforts and efficiency. We need an educated and non-corrupt person as the CM. Rather than going with a general hate wave, I would request all readers to apply their mind and elect a progressive Government. Cajetan Rego Comprem, Tivim Goa
[Goanet]Correcting Goa's politics
I would like to express my opinion on a few points people have raised on this topic. Whether we should choose the Goa Suraj party: How can we be sure that the Goa Suraj Party will get rid of all Goa's problems? The people who actually do the work are the beaureucrats and Govt. servants. How will Goa Suraj change their lethargic attitude? Sack everyone who does not perform? If they do it, virtually all Govt servants will be sacked. If our health services are not upto the mark, what can Goa Suraj do that other parties could not? How will they attract industires to the state? How will they improve Goa's roads? I am sure some members of the party are active on Goanet. I request them to elaborate on how exactly they would bring about a change in Goa. The party's website does not detail out their manifesto. Will Christians be disenfranchised? I think we are simply overreacting by saying that Christians will be disenfranchised by the BJP. This is Goa as against Gujarat where explicit official orders were issued to burn houses. Just because such a thing happened there, it does not mean that it will happen here. Disenfranchising Christians is just not practical in a high-literacy state where the Christian population is significant. A few incidents here and there caused by overzealous people cannot be generalized as an assault on any religion. Not bringing Parrikar back to power, just because of this hypothetical fear, we will be depriving ourselves of an efficient Government. If we cannot appreciate the development Parrikar achieved for Goa, I think we don't deserve any development at all. I am not a BJP activist or party worker and had thought Goa would be ruined when Parrikar came to power 4 years ago. My attitude towards his rule has since changed after seeing his developmental efforts and efficiency. We need an educated and non-corrupt person as the CM. Rather than going with a general hate wave, I would request all readers to apply their mind and elect a progressive Government. Cajetan Rego Comprem, Tivim Goa __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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On 4/8/05, Cajetan Rego [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In January 2005,though things were not completely perfect, there was no crisis in the state. Goa ranked as the No.1 state in India. The Parrikar Government had.. RESPONSE: I had dismissed Cajetan Rego's posting off hand, without countering the post. I have since had a rethink, coming to the conclusion that one should counter such posts with due forte. It is easy to be dismissive and confine such posts the garbage bin, however many of our readers might have actually succumbed to the propaganda ( as I see it) so it is right and fitting to re butt what was posted. I find it difficult to come to terms with 'Parikkar's accommodation with Shri Monserate', as he put, it just so that he could continue in governance. This act in itself shows that Parrikar would move Heaven and Earth to remain in power. There is more than meets the eye and what Parrikar has stated in regard to the removal of Monserate is just hogwash. It in fact shows that the man is not above accommodation when and if it suits his purpose. He was even willing to look aside as Monserate milked the cow - this is what he has clearly stated - it was only when he felt that Monserate had overstepped his given line that Parrikar eventually intervened!. So now you have it an ex CM who is willing and able to overlook graft. What followed , in regard to the expulsion is just bull, for Goan public consumption. Cajetan Rego seems to think that Parrikar's accommodation of people who err and who do so big time, is quite alright - the aim being to remain in Government. Cajetan Rego has conveniently side stepped the inexcusable expulsion, of Felipe Neri and the contorted fix perpetrated by the Speaker and some more members of the Government. I would remind readers, that Parrikar's hand was in this - if not, then he is not fit to lead the Government - knowing nothing of what goes on! Parrikar not wanting greetings on his birthday and acknowledgment according to Cajetan Rego is meant to deceive the people of Goa. Parrikar is deliberately painting himself as a goody, goody. The truth of funds misappropriated will only come to light, if and when the Governor proposes a complete audit of the expenditure incurred. Parrikar has not answered pertinent questions put to him and his Government; for instance the overspend on building the Cineplex as compared to costs of building a similar project elsewhere in India. Goa was a tourist destination long before Parrikar came on the scene and for Cajetan Rego to give credit to Parrikar for this happening is, well quite ignorant. Anyway what good is it to the local people of Goa ? Most of the money earned does not remain in Goa. A very big proportion of the people working in the tourism are not Goans. So there is nothing to crow about Goa being the showcase of Indian tourism; what this has created, is in fact inflation which the local people can ill afford. There are scores of people in Goa relying on remittances from relatives working abroad - cut that off and many would be destitute. The bottom line is that Goa and Goans are being exploited in monetary terms as well as in terms of the environment and available resources. Cajetan Rego has conveniently ignored Parrikar's push to exclude Catholic Goans in Government Administrative posts. In a short space of time, with more and more Catholic Goans taking employment abroad, the strings that will be pulled, will be to the detriment of many Goans. Parrikar is very sweet with words - words cost nothing, unfortunately people like Cajetan Rego are easily bought. The only one who did support Parrikar on this forum in the past was Gaspar Almeida. He has gone quiet recently, perhaps because of the adverse events that befell his beloved BJP. Now in his place we have Carlos 6143 and Cajetan Rego. Unofrtunately if things go wrong, the rest of Goanetters will not be able to vent our feelings on either Carlos 6143 or Cajetan Rego, we do not know these people. Now if Gaspar Almeida were to throw his hat in with these two then we can and will be able to have our fingers pointedly and wagging at that. I would urge our readers not to be taken in by such shallow postings which are nothing but propaganda. I have said this before - you court the BJP at your own peril. It is a crying shame that accommodation by some members of the Congress Party were responsible for bringing this blight on the people of Goa. The people of Goa should now look to electing people from a different shade, why not try the Goa Suraj party and the recent incarnation from Margao? Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England
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On 4/9/05, floriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like a Parrikar tootsie is at work here. It is a fact that Congress, NCP, UGDP, MGP have been and are 'SCREW-BALLS' But what you don't realise is that the BJP is 'CASTRATED BALLS'. And you call yourself a Goan? Floriano - Original Message - From: Cajetan Rego [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: [Goanet]Correcting Goa's politics Just imagine the hell Goa will turn into if the Congress comes in power... .. A Goan RESPONSE: For sure the writer is a Parrikar tootsie, as mentioned by Floriano. Can't see Saffron and does not have the courage to post their residency. Agreed that the previous political parties were no better; do Goans have just two choices, bad and worse? The BJP, if they return to power in Goa, will in time disenfranchise the Catholic minority and it will be too late and there will be sack cloth and gnashing of teeth. Goans have already had a fore taste of this. -- Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet]Correcting Goa's politics
Looks like a Parrikar tootsie is at work here. It is a fact that Congress, NCP, UGDP, MGP have been and are 'SCREW-BALLS' But what you don't realise is that the BJP is 'CASTRATED BALLS'. And you call yourself a Goan? Floriano - Original Message - From: Cajetan Rego [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: [Goanet]Correcting Goa's politics Just imagine the hell Goa will turn into if the Congress comes in power... .. A Goan
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On Apr 8, 2005 8:53 AM, Cajetan Rego [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -A Goan RESPONSE: Alleluia! The Governor was a real ogre to do away with the saviour of Goa. Jai Hind, Jai Hind. Bring back Parrikar, bring back the goondas, bring back law and order unto themselves, fill all the administrative jobs with party cadres! Screw the Catholic Goans and the sooner the better! While you are at it why don't you post your full address? Another Carlos6143 ? I am simply amazed that people want to post but are bashful or rather have no courage to come out in their own recognizance. Do you really expect to be taken seriously on this basis? Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet]Correcting Goa's politics
In January 2005,though things were not completely perfect, there was no crisis in the state. Goa ranked as the No.1 state in India. The Parrikar Government had received praises for the efficient organization of the IFFI. Goa is among the top tourist destinations in the world. There is surplus electricity. A stable and efficient administration had led industries to look at Goa as an investment destination. Wipro and Patni were all set to start their units in Goa. The River Princess was about to be removed. There were plans of an International airport. The sky bus was successfully tested. Panjim now looks like a European city. Goa has the smooth roads rarely to be found in India. There is no communal tension. Goa University has tied up with the prestigious IITs. Government schools in Goa have been upgraded. And all this fast track development had been achieved in four years' time under the leadership of a well-educated and sincere politician, Manohar Parrikar. Just when, the people of Goa thought they had a stable and progressive government, Parrikar was tempted to dismiss a corrupt minister. This minister had always been using the government machinery at his own pleasure. He was indeed a filmi 'goonda'. Parrikar had inducted him in the government because he had no other option when he came to power. Without his support Parrikar could not have pulled Goa out of political instability and power would have fallen in wrong hands. Throughout his tenure, Parrikar did a tightrope-balancing act, tolerating the whims and fancies of someone he eagerly wanted to evict. Eventually the tantrums went out of control and Parrikar had to dismiss him. In a couple of days, the entire numerical alignment in the legislative assembly changed. Those who had sung praises for Parrikar, turned into foes overnight. A smooth sailing government a few weeks before, now went into turbulence only after one member had been dismissed. If there had been something seriously wrong in the Governments functioning, or if there was a state crisis, or if the government was found to be indulging in criminal activities, the Governor would have been justified in overthrowing the government. But in Goa, only an MLA had been disqualified from voting at a trial of strength. This does not give the governor enough reason to dismiss a government, the praises of which he himself had been singing until few weeks before the entire fiasco. All of Goa knows this story. Take your memory back to the days when power was in the hands of an inherently unstable Congress. The chief ministers changed every now and then. There was absolutely no development in the state. Goa would be in the news only when the government would get toppled. Parrikar had broken this legacy and given Goa a stable government. The chief minister is supposed to be the mastermind behind the administration of the state. Issues related to health care, finance, industry, infrastructure, are guided by the CM. Every shuffle in the leadership causes the previous governments policies to be reversed. This is the main reason why Goa had not seen sufficient industrial investment. Wipro who had earlier shown interest are now rethinking their plans. There is no doubt that a Congress government will lead Goa into political turmoil. Just a day after coming into power, there was a mad rush for ministerial berths. Questions were raised about whether this government would last for over a week. If they come to power, you are sure to witness several side switches and musical chairs. These people who pretend to be united are the same people who have toppled each other. There is still intense rivalry between them, and they will give vent to it when the time comes. Just imagine the hell Goa will turn into if the Congress comes in power. After the elections, the numerical alignment will change even further and the same politicians with criminal background will lobby for cabinet berths. They include semi-literate people who have not even finished their primary education. So sorry has been the state of Goan politics that even a smuggler once became the chief minister. These people have no sense of duty or patriotism. They live flashy lifestyles, evident from the expensive birthday parties they throw and the cars they travel in. Contrast this with the lifestyle of Parrikar. He explicitly asks people not to issue greetings on the newspapers for his birthday. His attire is that of a common man. His simplicity makes him stand apart from other politicians. He has excellent contacts with some of the top industrialists of the country. His visions for Goa have always been progressive. The cyberage scheme has made Goa the most computer-literate state paving the way for E-governance in the future. The social security scheme and medical insurance scheme are similar to ones existing in many foreign countries. He got rid of the infamous slums in Baina. He gets criticized for
