Re: [Goanet]Goan dance bands of yesteryear: Some personal reflections

2005-01-08 Thread rene barreto

--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 From: cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: goanet@goanet.org
 Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:11 PM
 Subject: [Goanet]Goan dance bands of
 yesteryear: Some personal reflections
 
 
  Goan Dance Bands of Yesteryear: Some Personal
  Reflections.
 
 
 RESPONSE: A very nice, well written piece
 indeed. It brought back memories 
 of me having sweaty palms, downing a dram of
 whiskey, quickly followed by 
 strong mints, before venturing to ask a winsome
 Goan lass for a dance! Boy 
 oh boy, what a thrill to hold a girl - not like
 nowadays you dance there and 
 I dance here. The stirring of the loins! those
 were the good old days.
 
 Able Correa (my Uncle's brother) is alive,
 although not keeping too well. I 
 shall pass on the article to him
 
 cheers,
 
 Gabe. 


 I agree with what Gabe says , I also
agree with Mervyn , I ma not sure if he fits in
the* Yesteryears * :- ) 

 The 60s  , as many would accept , was
the best for the years for the real Music .There
has been a revival in some quarters. I know as I
hear my youngsters play some of the * Oldies * on
the hi-fi's at times. 

I am not into music but I have helped
many Musicians in my time  In organizing
Music shows . in Tanzania , Goa and in
London.
( self promotion organization : -) )
http://www.geocities.com/g.m.s/founder_members.html

Cornel's great and stimulating post gave
me a thought , I am suggesting that - The
Musicians of Yesteryear's here in London -
organize a Get together , I am sure that Gabe ,
our ex-President of GOA UK will give us his
support. I am sure our friend Eddie - Goan Voice
Uk ... will come to our support as always. 

 I call upon all the Goans in London to
share with us the names of musicians of
yesteryear's who live in London and would like to
JOIN us for an evening out or maybe for a Picnic
in the Park. 


 I am sure Cornel will be happy to lead
the * Goan Goldie's * of the 60's ! 

 


  rene barreto



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Re: [Goanet]Goan dance bands of yesteryear: Some personal reflections

2005-01-08 Thread Mervyn Lobo
cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
My goodness, Cornel!
Just the kind of email I needed before popping a cold
one on a Friday night :-)

Am going to re-read your work tomorrow morning, but
for now, the following are my (light hearted?)
comments:
1) 80% of your description could be inter-switched for
any Goan Institute in East Africa.

2) My first sports trip to M.I. was in 86. I went
together with T.I for an Easter sports festival. You
may be pleased to know those red bougainvillea plants
at the N.I. now bloom amber flowers :-)

3) You have forgotten to mention the tunes, All of
me and Isle of Capri. No mention either of Mr.
Acker Bilk. Lastly, every horn player in those days
was judged by how well he played Stardust. 

Mervyn2.0



 








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[Goanet]Goan dance bands of yesteryear: Some personal reflections

2005-01-07 Thread Gabe Menezes
From: cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:11 PM
Subject: [Goanet]Goan dance bands of yesteryear: Some personal reflections

Goan Dance Bands of Yesteryear: Some Personal  Reflections.
RESPONSE: A very nice, well written piece indeed. It brought back memories 
of me having sweaty palms, downing a dram of whiskey, quickly followed by 
strong mints, before venturing to ask a winsome Goan lass for a dance! Boy 
oh boy, what a thrill to hold a girl - not like nowadays you dance there and 
I dance here. The stirring of the loins! those were the good old days.

Able Correa (my Uncle's brother) is alive, although not keeping too well. I 
shall pass on the article to him

cheers,
Gabe. 




[Goanet]Goan dance bands of yesteryear: Some personal reflections

2005-01-06 Thread cornel
Goan Dance Bands of Yesteryear: Some Personal  Reflections.
This is a spontaneous piece on hearing of the death, at ninety-four of Artie 
Shaw in America. Shaw was an outstanding clarinettist and big band leader. 
Also, a contemporary of Benny Goodman, an equally brilliant fellow American 
clarinettist and  a big band leader too. I was able to  recall tunes made 
famous by Shaw such as Begin the Beguine, Lady Be Good, Moonglow, and 
Frenesi among so many other tunes he played. These were also the tunes that 
generations of Goan musicians  played in Goa, Bombay, Karachi, Calcutta, 
Nairobi, Mombasa, Kampala, Dar es Salaam, Iringa, Colombo, and on the high 
seas on  many ocean liners. However, any composite picture of the many 
outstanding Goan musicians, including classical and film musicians, has yet 
to be produced and it is my hope that an article like this will provide some 
impetus to a musically inclined Goan, or other historian to generate a much 
needed account of this area. Indeed,  earlier posts on Goanet, stemming from 
Tony Barros in New Jersey,  indicated much interest in this theme, and 
hopefully, this will be boosted further.

It has often been said that music runs in Goan veins. I agree of course, but 
want to add that it has flowed with much sentimentality and nostalgia for 
'Goaness'.  Early training in Goan villages on the violin, and  in hymnal 
singing  generated and supported  a distinctive Goan musicality and 
sociability  in my view and also created a productive  symbiosis between the 
musicians, in a group, and those enjoying what they generated. This has also 
been  true for sport where many Goans have excelled, then and now, but 
perhaps more may be on record for sport, because of greater press 
availability, than for music, but hopefully, this anomaly will be rectified 
in the near future.

Every one of the places mentioned above has a narrative  to tell and if only 
we could delve deeper into  memory lane, what a lovely story we would be 
able to tell of so many musicians who gave and have continued to give so 
much pleasure to fellow Goans and others.

In the little town of Mombasa, where I was brought up, I recall Goan amateur 
bands from Abel Correa and his Toe Ticklers, Neves Pereira and his Pieces of 
Eight,  Raul da Costa and his Luar Blues, Edmund Silveira and his jazz 
trio,  and Nelson Pereira and his Gay Caballeros i.e before the word gay 
took on modern connotations!

Interspersed with the above bands,  was my group, the Melody Dance Band 
(MDB) between 1957 and 1961 but we musicians did play in support of each 
other when necessary, and I personally played the saxophone and clarinet 
across three bands. Additionally, as Mombasa was a major port, we had the 
good fortune of having periodic visits from large ocean liners like the SS 
Kenya, SS Karanja and SS Kampala which variously plied between India, East 
and South Africa, the Meditteranean and the UK. On board these ships were 
outstanding Goan professional musicians who  played alongside the local Goan 
bands from time to time when their ships docked. Further, Goan dance bands 
between neighbouring East African countries like Kenya, Tanganyika and 
Uganda helped to add variety too.

Until about 1960, wind instruments like the saxophone, trumpet and clarinet 
dominated the dance band  scene with the support of rhythm,  percussion and 
other instruments. Subsequently, a major change came about with the 
electric, lead, rhythm and bass guitar and these effectively replaced the 
traditional lead wind instruments. Phillip Mascarenhas and his Shiftas, in 
Mombasa, represented this transition which was undoubtedly related to 
developments in the technology of amplification and the new found immense 
versatility of stringed instruments including the keyboard, and changing 
taste of course.  For instance, in all my playing in Kenya, I had never once 
blown my saxophone, into a microphone. The explanation for this was 
simple--we had access to just one mike, provided by the organisers of a 
dance and intended primarily for the master of ceremonies (MC) to make 
necessary announcements. When possible, we would use the single microphone 
to amplify our pianist's best efforts. For the rest of the time the wind 
instrumentalists blew as hard as they could,  and particularly exhaustingly, 
if a dance was held in the open air as on a tennis court bedecked with palm 
fronds and lighting.

Our single (rhythm) guitarist had built a most basic  amplifier, with the 
help of an electrician, and  which was housed in a plywood box shaped liked 
a little coffin! This would be manoevoured with utmost care to avoid any 
disruption to the delicate  wiring and the valves (yes valves!) which were 
in general use in radios before the advent of transistors. What I say may 
sound pitiable today but one distinct advantage at that time was that every 
musician could actually hear what he/she was playing. I point this out if 
only to indicate that