[Goanet] Coconut, value addition ... a query from a journo
Dear Shree Padre, Permit me to copy your query to the online network Goanet, since I believe much in the power of collective wisdom. Goanetters, Shree Padre is a respected journalist living in north Kerala (just outside Mangalore) and involved in farm and water journalism. His knowledge of, and commitment to, rainwater harvesting is impressive. In Goa, the coconut and its by-products go into making handicrafts (Coco Franco in Camurlim, Bardes is one such person), while the PVV group has also been using it to cover their bottles. Local villages use this tree (which, strangely, is not considered a "tree" under the local Tree Act!) for a range of products, right from rafters for their roofs to brooms for sweeping traditional village floors. When I met a community radio campaigner from the Philippines, he was telling me about virgin coconut oil -- something I had never heard of earlier, though there are a number of pages about it, and how to create it, on the internet. Vinegar is also another by-product of the coconut toddy. But I'm not sure if this product is widely used in Indian cooking apart from in places like Goa. Dessicated coconut is being created, but am not sure if this done in Goa. Probably some of the agricultural universities in coastal Maharashtra have also done some work on this. Have you thought of contacting the Solutions Exchange network of the UN in Delhi SEE: Solution Exchange: an Initiative of UN Country Team in India Solution Exchange is a new initiative of the United Nations Country Team in India that offers communities of development practitioners a UN-sponsored space ... www.solutionexchange-un.net.in/ Unfortunately, in Goa, the coconut economy seems to be collapsing, in part at least, because we don't have the 'coconut plucker schools' that Kerala has, and while it probably makes good economic sense to enter this field, there are class and dignity-of-labour issues which block sufficient new entrants among the younger generations. --FN * * * Dear FN, Yours is a coconut paradise. I know there is a family in Goa that makes lot of Value additions from Coconut shell. I'm interested to know about any other value additions happening around you. Maybe with the exception of coconut fenny. We at Adike Patrike are studying & throwing light on Coconut VA. Got some interesting stories from Kerala. Virgin Coconut Oil is a new product that has very good future. But the benefits can be bagged only if farmers or farmer groups venture out this. Regards, Shree Padre Water Journalist Post Vaninagar Via: Perla - Kerala, 671 552 Phone : 04998 - 266148 E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.farmedia.org/profiles/Padre.html http://www.rainwaterharvesting.org/People/RuralJY.htm#shre http://www.goodnewsindia.com/Pages/content/conservation/shreePadre.html http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/mar212006/spectrum1554472006320.asp http://www.farmedia.org/adikepatrike.html http://www.civilsocietyonline.com/Sept07/sep077.asp Jal hai to kal hai -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph +91-832-2409490 Links from Goa: http://goalinks.livejournal.com/
Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria-ism of Religion
On 03/01/2008, Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If one does believe in salvation resting in just one > religion, this is a rather shameful precept and should > be worn not on your sleeve but rather like a tattoo, > hidden from sight, seeing that it is an affront to > every civilised notion of humanity. It's called monotheism. While I don't subscribe to it myself, I see nothing as shocking as Selma sees in this point of view. Many global religious (and even non-religions) believe their theirs is the 'only true path'. Right from Christianity to Islam, to Marxism, those in denial about global warming, and even George W. Bush when it comes to his policies on Iraq and so many other positions that affect so many on this planet. I don't believe that religions which aren't monotheist or 'one-true-godish' in nature are any more liberal, modernistic or tolerant that those which do. FN -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph +91-832-2409490 Links from Goa: http://goalinks.livejournal.com/
[Goanet] Bookworm... at Sant Inez, Goa
Bookworm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is a library and activity centre for kids in Goa, located in the Panjim suburb of Sant Inez. They've launched an online version of their monthly calendar, and you can request them to add you to their mailing list if you wish. Says Sujata: "We are delighted to finally be able to convert our monthly schedule of activities at Bookworm into a format that we can now send out to you. We hope that the attached schedule, allows you to plan trips to the Library for your children and that we see more of you in 2008!" The January 2008 calendar includes All Things New (for various age groups, 4-6, 6-8, 9-11, craft, favourite tales, puppet play, and art attack... on different days of the month. To download a copy of the January 2008 calendar, click on http://www.divshare.com/download/3334143-729 -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph +91-832-2409490 Links from Goa: http://goalinks.livejournal.com/
Re: [Goanet] inward migration (serious danger ahead)
To Goanet - nelson ferrao wrote: >this whole issue has been manipulated and distorted. The whole issue about >this inward migration is not about genuine indians coming for productive >purposes in Goa. It is about mass influx of Migrants, with hutments all over >public land, roaming all over Goa with no fixed jobs. it is about all these >guys defecating, urinating and spitting in public places. It is about all >these guys involved in shaddy activities with increase in crime. There is a perceptible increase in loiterers in Goa these days. Panjim is full of these loitering ghatis - on the riverwalk, at Miramar, in our public parks and gardens - and they have no fixed jobs. A few inquiries reveal that a large number of muslims are streaming into Goa, and these aren't only of Bijapur origin. They now come from Bangladesh and Assam (illegal entrants from Bangladesh). I hear that they trace a fairly standard route. They first come to Mumbai, hang around there, and then take the Konkan Railway into Goa. This calls for a serious investigation for if this trend is proven to be true, the implications for Goa are enormous. Digambar Kamat is not going to be the guy initiating any such inquiry, for he relies heavily on his muslim vote bank (some jokingly call him Paigambar Kamat). Regards, r Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria-ism of Religion
Thank God we are all cafeteria customers when it comes to our respective religions. Society progresses because human beings are able to discern that two differing positions cannot concurrently be tenable. For instance at some point it becomes untenable to believe that the world was created in seven days while simultaneously believing in the gradual evolution of mankind. Each person chooses their own untenable positions, for me it was the rather benign parable of the Prodigal Son. The reason this parable has such resonance is because every human being imagines themselves to the Prodigal Son. Unfortunately even as a very young child, I identified with the other son; the good, dutiful son who did all the right things. My own elder brother was very errant, and my mother went out of her way to accommodate his many failings and lack of academic interest. Ofcourse, being ten I knew all about Law and Justice and little about motherly love. However, the crux of the matter was that Jesus Christ had deeply misrepresented the feelings of the dutiful son and completely misunderstood his angst. If Christ could show such deficiency in his understanding of human nature, than his being Divine was an untenable position for me. The reason I write this is because of late, some rather strong posts have been made about eternal salvation and this being achieved primarily through Jesus Christ. This position as the truth is untenable when juxtaposed against every human beings unalienable right to embrace whatever belief system he finds comfort in, and lead a moral live within that system. If one does believe in salvation resting in just one religion, this is a rather shameful precept and should be worn not on your sleeve but rather like a tattoo, hidden from sight, seeing that it is an affront to every civilised notion of humanity. selma Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [Goanet] Things I've noticed about.....
Dear Selma, Nelson Ferrao is a nice "Catholic sounding" nom de guerre ;-) It could be a catholic, a saffronite or an atheist comrade or a little bit of everything confused. ;-) It would be nice to know when this "Nelson Ferrao" of nelson ferrao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> email ID joined the Goanet ...just to discuss SEZ when it got a little hot for some folks with "Hindu sounding " names ...possibly with other nom de guerre to boot. The only person who is likely to know Nelson Ferrao is his Creator in the Cyberworld . google, giggle , google!! or can someone put a phone number and address to this thing?? Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:44:22 -0800 (PST) From: Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Things I've noticed about. --- nelson ferrao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nigel > well said. You have appreciated work of everybody > concerned unlike some > people on this forum who have taken sides and have > been busy denying the > contribution of others and praising themselves to > glory. > Together we stand and devided we fall. > cheers > Nelson Nelson ferrao: a) His email address is Goan fanatic. b) He sometimes spells didn't as "dint" c) He doesn't like Muslims "flooding" into Goa d) He doesn't like to start his sentences with an uppercase letter. I wonder if anyone else on Goanet can vouch for Nelson ferrao? selma -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Security Threat in Moira w.r.t. a Robbery at My Place
Writing in moira-net Bosco D'Sa of Moira said "Dear Netters, I would like to discuss... our village... specially our day to day problems... as we are facing a security threat with a lot of non Goans... specially from Karnataka, Orissa and the other adjoining states." I'd like to reply to him on goanet because his apprehensions are similar to those which a lot of other Goan villagers, and indeed town people have and because the 'ghanti' which is whom D'Sa is actually referring to, is one of the most favourite subjects of goanet and anyway there's already a flourishing Insider - Outsider discourse on here. I can speak from experience about the subject of security, as I had the not so pleasant experience of having my house burgled in broad daylight some 4 years ago. The robbery took place between 8 a.m. and 2 p.m. the time when both my wife and I are at work. The thieves got away with an amount of about Rs. 1 lakh in gold jewelery and cash. Who did it? The knee jerk reaction would be to blame the 'ghanti'. But if one thinks about it, this has to be an Insider job, for only someone with knowledge of our movements could have planned this pretty daring operation. Actually maybe I exaggerate on the daringness bit, because although my house lies on the main road, behind it is a forest and my place can easily be approached from there without being seen. But it's also possible for a local to have come in through the back or even front gate without arousing much suspicion. The neighbors are anyway too busy with their own chores to pay any notice. What I'm trying to say is that - yes it is possible that that the robbery was an outsider job, but I doubt it. The whole thing was too amateurish, the idiots actually missed the most valuable, and for sentimental reasons most precious item, a gold set gifted to my wife by her Mum. Most probably it was someone who I'm on Hail Fellow Well Met terms; and if at all an outsider was in on it, he was a pawn masterminded by the former. So let's get to he bottom of the problem. Moira is at present crawling with ghantis, as on the left hand side of the road digging is going o to put a cable for broadband, courtesy BSNL, and on the right hand side, digging is going on to lay a cable for broadband, courtesy Goa Govt. And we must welcome them both with both hands because 1) we the rich arrogant residents of Moira all crave for BB and 2) not one of us is prepared to do the dirty work that is involved in laying those cables. Are those dirty smelly ghantis thieves? I doubt it. So who are the criminals of Moira? Come with me for a drink to any of the many bars in my village. and just observe who are the customers there. Yes, many of my childhood friends will be found drinking there. Many do not have any known source of income. So from where do they get the money to fund their not that cheap addiction, at least when there are no Parliament, Assembly or Panchayat elections, when there is a lot of funding indeed? Your guess is as good as mine. Don't mistake me - of course there are professionals who come to Goa every now and then and do those spectacular jobs on the jewelery stores and the stinking rich. But these aren't the people Bosco is worried about, because my guess is they will be as inconspicuous as they can be. Let me conclude this already overlong missive: the ghantis are not thieves, not that is, until they become sufficiently Goanised. Until they become accustomed, after living here in accommodation which we provide to them on rent, so that we can live a life of luxury, to a lotus eating life, like the one you and I live, At that time there's no point in pointing fingers at them - by that time they're like us only -no? Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
[Goanet] GMAS on the latest developments on SEZ
To Goanet - January 3, 2008: Goa's Movement Against SEZs (GMAS) met this evening to take stock of the situation arising from the Union Commerce Secretary's remarks that the notified SEZs cannot be denotified. The following statement was released by GMAS at the conclusion of this meeting. r * GMAS Press Release GMAS strongly condemns the statement of the Union Commerce Secretary Gopal Pillai that smacks of neo-colonialism and runs totally counter to the wishes of the people of Goa. GMAS at its meeting today decided to immediately write to the Chief Minister of Goa seeking a copy of the confirmation letter sent to the Union Ministry for scrapping the SEZs including the notified ones. GMAS has also decided to call upon all legislators to pass a resolution in the forthcoming legislative session of the Assembly to scrap all SEZs, Food Parks, IT Parks, IT Retreats, IT Resorts, IT Habitat, Townships, and new Industrial Estates. GMAS also made it clear that the issue of land is entirely a state subject and its use is the prerogative solely of people of Goa, and since the Goa govt does not want any SEZs in the state, all SEZs (including Parks, Habitats, Retreats etc) should go. GMAS reiterates that it is not concerned with the statements of Ministry of Commerce. GMAS regards the state govt as the sole representative of the people to get all SEZs, including the notified ones, in any form to be scrapped. Matanhy Saldanha Convener, GMAS January 3, 2008 ** Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[Goanet] Centre can review all Goa SEZs: Nath
In sharp contrast to the stand taken by his secretary yesterday, Commerce Minister Kamal Nath on Thursday said the Centre can review all special economic zones in Goa as it does not want to thrust SEZs on the states. "Centre can review all Goa SEZs," Nath told reporters after meeting Goa Chief Minister Digambar Kamat in Delhi. Nath said there was "absolute provision" in the SEZ Act for everything, including review of the notified zones. Commerce secretary Gopal Pillai had said on Wednesday the Centre cannot de-notify three SEZs from Goa since they had become "legal entities" after their notification. http://www.rediff.com/money/2008/jan/03sez.htm Pravin K. Sabnis visit: www.unlearningunlimited .blogspot.com www.poems-pravinsabnis.blogspot.com www.monday-muse.blogspot.com 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html
[Goanet] Centre not to impose SEZ on Goa, Nath assures Kamat
Centre not to impose SEZ on Goa, Nath assures Kamat New Delhi (PTI): Reversing the stance taken by his secretary, Commerce Minister Kamal Nath on Thursday assured Goa Chief Minister Digambar Kamat that Centre will not impose any special economic zone on the state and is willing to review even those projects that have been notified. Sticking to his gun for scrapping all the SEZs in the Congress-ruled state, Kamat had a series of meetings with union ministers, including Nath, and senior party leaders to press for endorsement of the decision taken by his government. A day after Commerce Secretary Gopal Pillai virtually rejected Goa Government's decision saying notified SEZs could not be scrapped, Nath said Centre could review all zones. Kamat later told reporters at the Congress headquarters: "Goan people do not want SEZs. SEZs will not come to Goa. The Congress government will not go against the people". Nath also said: "The central government does not want to thrust upon any state SEZ which is not conducive." When asked about the fate of the three SEZs already notified, Nath said: "There is absolute provision in the (SEZ) Act for everything." Kamat said the state government would send a formal communication to the Centre in two-three days recommending revocation of all 15 SEZs in Goa. "I am satisfied with my meeting with the Commerce and Industry Minister," he said. The Goa Government had on December 31 announced scrapping SEZs following widespread protests by political parties, including the Congress and the opposition BJP. Three of the SEZs - Cipla's Meditab Specialities, K Raheja Corporation and Peninsula Pharma Research Centre- have already been notified. http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200801031923.htm COMMENT: So now, it will be in the realms of the Courts - guess who will come out tops ? It ain't over until the Fat Lady singsand she is biding her time ! Any betting persons out there ? I say the crooks will win ! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] DISSIPATIVE GOVERNANCE
For favour of early publiction, please. Averthanus _ DISSIPATIVE GOVERNANCE. Averthanus L. D'Souza. The strong and unambiguous voice of Goa's citizens has finally succeeded in overcoming the short-sighted and destructive policy of the Goa Government which was based on the greed of business interests and their pliable political friends instead of on the greater good of Goa. Bowing to the coordinated and persistent opposition of the people, the Chief Minister has finally decided to scrap the misconceived policy of setting up Special Economic Zones in Goa at the behest of the Central Government. The Goa Government has been compelled to respect the wishes of the common man; however, this has been done grudgingly and reluctantly. There are still some Ministers and MLAs who insist that SEZs will be good for Goa. It is interesting to note that while they make these assertions, they do not advance a shred of evidence to back up their claims. The common Goan citizen is now convinced that these renegade politicians are merely acting as the stooges of manipulative businesses, quite obviously for a consideration. It is high time that the citizens, specially of their constituencies, ensure that these politicians are not re-elected when the next round of elections come around. We do not want traitors to represent us in the august halls of the Legislative Assembly. We have been informed by the Chief Minister and by some legal luminaries that since the setting up of the SEZs was the prerogative of the Central Government, there are legal obstacles to the freedom of the Goa Government to scrap those SEZs which were already notified by the Central Government. However, there appears to be no contention to the fact that if the Central Government has notified some areas, then it can also de-notify the same. Since the Goa Government has made its request clear, it should be expected that the Central Government will respect the decision of the State Government. Since the notification of the SEZs is an executive action of the Central Government, there should be no legal hurdles to denotify them by a similar executive decision. The Central Government should not play a cat and mouse game with the people of Goa whose clear preference has been made known to the Goa Government, and passed on to the Central Government. The question which agitates the Goan citizen, however, is of a more fundamental nature. What was the procedure which was followed in arriving at the decision to permit the applicants to set up the several SEZs in Goa? The Chief Minister, in a discussion with representatives of the SEZ Virodhi Manch admitted that many established procedures were not followed. He also admitted that it was a grave default that the projects were not placed before the people before they were recommended to the Central Government for approval. This admission shows up a serious lacuna in the way the administration is conducted. For one thing, it exposes the arbitrary manner in which the Goa Industrial Development Corporation functions. It appears to have (mis)appropriated to itself the power of decision making which appropriately belongs to the Cabinet. This is a very serious breach of the norms of a Cabinet form of Government. No Corporation should be allowed to misappropriate the powers of the Cabinet. Furthermore, the GIDC has been shown to have breached its own norms and procedures. One example cited is the fact that an applicant was allotted more land than it had requested in its application; for another, an application for land was approved even without the project details being presented to the Board of the GIDC.These actions of the GIDC are not only highly irregular; they tantamount to criminal breach of established procedures.This is why the SEZ Virodhi Manch strongly demands a CBI or a Judicial Enquiry into the functioning of the GIDC. This is a very serious matter, and the Chief Minister will be in serious error if he sweeps this demand under the carpet. His personal credibility as well as the credibility of his Government is at stake here. He will be well advised to immediately constitute either a CBI or a Judicial Enquiry and demand a final report within the shortest possible time - not more than six months from now. Another fundamental dissonance in the functioning of the Government is the fact that many of these redundant Corporations are functioning as parallel governments without accountability to the legally elected Government. Each of these Corporations acts independently of other Corporations or other Departments of the Government. A glaring example of this is the construction of a drainage system along the Miramar - Dona Paula bypass road by the Goa State Infrastructure Development Corporation without any reference whatsoever to the Corporation of the City of Panjim. When several Corporat
[Goanet] Wendell brings the Lounge Lizard home to Goa
Wendell brings the Lounge Lizard home to Goa January 3, 2008 The world's leading premium brand Chivas Regal in association with the Goa Marriott presents Goa's own Wendell Rodricks and his Lounge Lizard Collection. Presented to Mumbai, Delhi and Bangalore as a part of the First ever Chivas Fashion Tour, Wendell brings the Lounge Lizard home to Goa just in time for Christmas and New Year. The Wendell Rodricks Lounge Lizard collection for the show is inspired by and aimed at the young lounge reveler. At this evening the asymmetrical lines and sharp silhouettes along with an eclectic mix of weaves and fabrics would be the highlights. More at: http://www.fibre2fashion.com/news/fashion-news/newsdetails.aspx?news_id= 47348 ~(^^)~ Avelino
Re: [Goanet] GMAS responds to Union Commerce Secy's statement
Cancelled??? SEZ who??? I, somehow, have a gut-feeling that all this rigmarole...cancelation at one level, non-acceptance of same at a higher one, is but an astute byzantine manouvre. To extract Digu from a boiling chaldron as well as, eventually, save intact all the SEZ factors: Investors, bribed politicos...the whole golden goose alive! We can but wait and seeor, promptly get about seriously driving as many nails as required in the coffin, with Digu in'it or not... Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, 2008-01-03> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:34:08 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] GMAS responds to Union Commerce Secy's statement> > To Goanet -> > In response to the Union Commerce Secretary's statement today> that the Goa Govt has no locus standii to denotify the notified > SEZs, the GMAS Convener Matanhy Saldanha spoke to the news > media this evening in Panjim. The press statement is reproduced > below.> > For news of Union Commerce Secretary's position, see -> > http://tinyurl.com/292cu6> > > GMAS's Press Statement on Jan 2, 2008 -> > Goa’s Movement Against SEZs (GMAS) deplores the Union > Government’s stance on the 3 notified SEZs. It is now clear > that the Union Governent has scant respect for the wishes > of the people of Goa despite knowing the fact that the SEZs > are not in the interest of the state of Goa, and that they have > been opposed at all levels. Before going public on such > serious issues, it is the bounden duty of the Government > of India to verify the basis on which the SEZs were forwarded > for approval in the first place. > > GMAS’s opposition to the SEZs is with the government of > Goa, and it is the responsibility of the State government to > respond to the Union government appropriately to get the > notified SEZs scrapped.> > GMAS takes serious view of the brazen reaction of the > Union Commerce secretary. Before adopting this autocratic > posture, the Union Government should have clarified with > the State government its reasons for recommending > de-notification of the 3 notified SEZs. Perhaps the Union > Government has gone into panic mode for it appears that > there is much to hide at the Union level as well.> > GMAS wants to make it absolutely clear to the Goa government > that we are not concerned with the decision of the Union > government and it is for the Goa govt to make sure that > the notified SEZs are scrapped along with all the other SEZs. > GMAS would like to state that the people of Goa are not > going to take this lying down. > > GMAS will meet on January 3rd to discuss the recent > developments and to take appropriate action to the > insensitive response of the Union government.> > Matanhy Saldanha> Convener, GMAS> January 2, 2008> **> > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet] Ghost Stories on Goanet
In Loyola High School of the 1950's I remember one evening in the courtyard, we were all gathered to watch a show. The show consisted of shadow puppets on a large white 'screen', cut-outs of wood shaped like people, animals, trees etc, also paper & cardboard with a light behind so the cut-outs were displayed on the screen. I dreamed of this scene only a few nights ago, for the first time in nearly half a century! When we originally had this treat, it was 'scary' for me, wetting my bed in a nightmare. My dorm mates must have had a good laugh that time & every time I had this nightmare, intermingled as it was with the issues surrounding my father's treatment of my mother at the time, and me being away from family.. But yes please, will anyone who has stories to share about childhood ghost stories & other stories, come on this forum and give us all a good fright. I promise my bed will still be dry in the morning, ha ha. John Monteiro --- cedrico dacosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ghost Stories on Goanet it was quite thrilling to hear someone out there trade ghost stories on Goanet... while i was reading that one, one person does instantly come to mind...no he was not a ghost, but many students during those days used to be scared out of their wits even to see his shadow move around...Rev Fr Savio Rodrigues the then principal at Loyola High School margao. who ruled, groomed and mentored the institution with an iron fist. Fr Savio, used to teach us history..Cedric da Costa ---
Re: [Goanet] IFFI and the hassles of registerign online for journalists
Posting it to goanet. I had sent it to goajourno but I haven't seen it appear there. However, i have sent it again to goajourno. This is reference to IFFI and the problems journalists had registering online. Esther Kar was the media in charge for IFFI. eugene I had emailed Ethel regarding my accrediation and also to Esther. To my surprise Esther wrote back saying that my online application is not in their database. I had applied before the closing day. She then said to me that I need to get a PAIDdelegate pass. Never got any reply from Ethel. I was in Goa during the IFFI but I did not care to go to the media centre and meet Esther. She seems to have some attitude problem. A bureaucrat indeed. No wonder Goan Observer thrashed her badly. The PIB is like any other government department. I had bad experience with it during the Pravasi Divas meet in 2004 in Mumbai. Despite applying more than a month and also faxing a letter from the Indian Consulate in Toronto, Canada, I was shocked that my media pass was not ready. I saw the fax lying on the table. One of the officials told me that I would not be able to attend the meet. I was kept out of the hall where the PM inaugurated the meet for more than half an hour. I was then let in without a pass. Next day at the media centre I was giving a runaround. I was told that they had run out of media passes and a new print order was given. It would arrive later in the day. Henceforth, I decide not to attend the Pravasi Divas meets. I was keen on going to Hyderabad the following year. No doubt, it is a tamasha. But I felt that even tamashas need to be covered. On the other hand, I had no problem getting media pass for the Dubai film festival. I enjoyed some of the films, including gala primiere of AIDS Jagoo, by Mira Nair, Loins of Punjab and many others. Eugene Correia Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[Goanet] Goan convention in Toronto
When is the Goan convention in Toronto and who is organising it? Eugene Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[Goanet] Goa CM heads for Delhi for talks to resolve SEZ row
Goa CM heads for Delhi for talks to resolve SEZ row 3 Jan 2008, 1445 hrs IST,PTI PANAJI: Goa Chief Minister Digamber Kamat on Thursday left for New Delhi to hold talks with the Congress leadership to seek help to end the special economic zone (SEZ) row in the state. A day after the Goa government announced scrapping of all the 15 SEZ projects in the state, including three already notified, the Centre questioned the decision. The Union Commerce Ministry on Wednesday refused to denotify the three SEZs, raising prospects of fresh trouble in the coastal state where anti-SEZ groups had been vehemently protesting against setting up of the trade zones. The protesters, including a section of the ruling Congress and some other political parties, had put their agitation on hold after the state government's decision. Sources close to Chief Minister's office said that Kamat, along with MP Shantaram Naik, would meet the Congress leaders in Delhi to seek their intervention to resolve the sensitive matter. "We will meet party leaders first as Union Commerce Minister Kamal Nath is not in Delhi," Naik said over phone from the national capital. Naik, who was critical of the Centre's decision not to denotify SEZs, said the statement by Union Commerce Secretary "absurd, fallacious and illogical". Issuing a notification is an executive decision which can be changed if public interest demands, he pointed out. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Goa_CM_heads_for_Delhi_for_talk s_to_resolve_SEZ_row/articleshow/2671754.cms ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] 'SIR' will triumph Tiatro lover's hearts
SIR will triumph Tiatro lover's hearts Ace Comedian Agostinho twice over the winner of covetous GULAB awards, as the best comedian actor, presents his super hit Konkani tiatr SIR, which acclaimed the finest show of this season is running in Goa in full swing. SIR is an intelligent script with a beautiful message, which revolves around the life of a student who holds on to his ego only to get back at his professor for slapping him when he was student. The SIR tiatr will be held at Hawally A.C. Auditorium on 18th Jan, 2008 at 3.30 Agostinho entire troupe will feature in this Tiatr. In addition Super Star Jose Rod, Marcus-Laurente-Cajetan de Sanvordem will entertain you. Also for the first time on Kuwait Konkani stage a novelty duet will be performed exclusively by Edward Estibeiro! Rush for your gate pass: LIMCA CARGO (Tony Golden Goa), Niclas- 9732917, Laurente-6262597, Chequinho-66364366, Philip-9494518 Directors comments The word SIR I feel has been misused in todays world. Instead of using it out of real respect, people are using it for flattery with the intention of getting favours done. Thats the message I want to give the audience in my tiatro-SIR & The first Konkani-e-cinema "BLACK will be screened at 5.45 p.m. at the Indian Embassy Hall, B-1 Diplomatic Quarter, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on 31st January 2008. For more details, www.t-bush.com For Entry Passes, kindly contact the below: Alex BraganzaMbl: 050 191 5882 Bhaskar Govekar Mbl:050 340 4616 Caje Afonso Mbl: 050 834 1502 Franklin D'Costa Mbl: 050 647 0697 Jerome Coutinho Mbl: 050 623 5946 Jose D'Costa Mbl: 050 716 0654 Marcus D'Costa Mbl: 050 940 2617 Michael FernandesMbl: 050 726 8034 Victor D'Mello Mbl: 050 468 2046 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Ghost Stories on Goanet
Ghost Stories on Goanet it was quite thrilling to hear someone out there trade ghost stories on Goanet... while i was reading that one, one person does instantly come to mind...no he was not a ghost, but many students during those days used to be scared out of their wits even to see his shadow move around...Rev Fr Savio Rodrigues the then principal at Loyola High School margao. who ruled, groomed and mentored the institution with an iron fist. Fr Savio, used to teach us history...his lecture was divided into two...one --- book knowledge and two -- worldly knowledge or general knowledge... he used to regale us with many a Goan ghost stories of his times and one of his personal experiences was the infamous colva-benaulim road... I hope many would trade ghost stories on this forum, specially the old grandmother's types and not about the living 40 ghosts that haunt the red-roof-top building at Porvorim and who masquerade around with a tambdi-light atop their cars... Well those were lovely times and those who are connected to Goanet and were fortunate to be in the batch of Fr Savio's history classes would remember...another era...another time...! Regards Cedric da Costa Dubai - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [Goanet] What has Religion got to do with Politics and Visa Versa ?? !!
"Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's & Give unto God what is God's" This is not just for the Catholics amongst us, this relates to all humans on the planet. In other words keep the two issues SEPARATE. I agree with Dr Barad on this. So many ills of the world are due to combining both these together & made into one. Keep politics separate from religion. One is for the body (giving unto Caesar the taxes due, ie politics), the other for the soul/spirit (giving unto God what is God's ie fulfilling your spiritual requirements). Both are needed to feed, nourish & make you whole, the human being is a complex animal, requiring constant attention, but should take his politics & religion separately. When we eat & drink we sit down to enjoy it, when we go to the beach & go swimming, we dont eat & drink at the same time, (excuse the comparison). Combining the two at the SAME TIME can make the belly feel rough, the results follow soon after.. John Monteiro - "Dr. U. G. Barad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote = I've been following the thread in our net on RELIGION. Let me first say that I don't know much about religious philosophy nor I am interested either. To me, no religious conviction is bad but politicizing any religion is very bad and that all religions must be autonomous and away from politics. It's not the ordinary people who politicize religion and label other religion as the evil monster. In fact it's those handful of persons who command authority and who are paid to work for them are responsible for politicizing the religion.. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad ---
[Goanet] Goanet] Torture of Christians in Orissa is .... about money, honey.
Dears, Before this Christian v/s Hindu debate gets out of focus, let us go back to the ground reality: The Christain Panas [formerly SC and now demanding ST status because the Constitution does not recognise SC for no-Hindus] wanted to put an arch in the market. They were prevented. The Christian Panas beat up a swami, his driver and a police escort. The Hindus burnt churches, seminaries, houses, convents. "TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE ONE RIGHT." said Mahatma Gandhi. The following is an extract of the full report below. It has also been confirmed by a priest that the swami, drive and ploiceman was beaten up BEFORE the violence erupted. The report:QUOTE "The region has witnessed numerous clashes in the past over attempts of conversion and re-conversion of tribals and Panas by both Christians and Hindus. The trouble had escalated in the early 1990s when the Kui, Kuvi and Kuee groups were added to the Kandhas in the ST list. Since then, Panas — who are classified as a Scheduled Caste (SC) — have been demanding their inclusion in the ST list as well. An ST can continue to get extra benefits as a tribal even after conversion to Christianity, but a SC member cannot. The Kandhas have been opposing this demand. It was in this backdrop that Hindu and Christian groups clashed on Christmas Eve in Brahmanigaon, about 150 km from district headquarter Phulbani. The problem intensified the same day when some people attacked the vehicle of local Hindu leader Swami Laxmananda Saraswati near Daringbadi when he was on his way to perform a yagna in Brahmanigaon. Then the tribals attacked Panas, damaged their churches and drove them out of their homes. "Although there are isolated incidents of Panas attacking tribals, by and large it was a collective attack by thousands of tribals on Christian Panas and the main reason was not religion alone," a district police official said. Tribals feel local member of the state legislative assembly, Mr Padmanabha Behera and senior Congress leader and Rajya Sabha member, Mr Radhakanta Naik have joined hands and are helping Panas. UNQUOTE It is not about religion or Christmas. The issue is about SCHEDULED TRIBE status to the Panas SC converts and the facilities there to. IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY, HONEY. ;-) Mog asundi, Miguel Fresh violence in Orissa before Home Minister's visit IANS Phulbani (Orissa), Jan 2 The Union Home Minister, Mr Shivraj Patil arrived in Orissa on Wednesday to assess the situation in riot hit Kandhamal district amidst reports of fresh violence in the region over the past two days. Hundreds of people on Monday torched two houses, one each at villages Rabingia and Barpada, about 150 km from district headquarter Phulbani. Another mob attacked a house at Daringbadi village on Monday, the police said. A senior district police official told IANS there was no report of fresh violence since Tuesday morning, "but the situation continues to remain critical". Mr Patil is scheduled to visit some parts of the riot-hit district, about 200 km from state capital Bhubaneswar. At least three people were killed in the district and dozens injured in communal clashes since Christmas Eve. The Home Minister arrived at the state capital on Wednesday morning, to be received by state Congress president Mr Jayadev Jena, leader of opposition, Mr J B Patnaik and senior officials, including state chief secretary, Mr Ajit Tripathy. On December 24, mobs allegedly owing allegiance to the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) and Bajrang Dal torched 14 churches in the district. Christian groups claim that nine people were killed in the attack. The Biju Janata Dal and Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) coalition government in Orissa has been accused of not taking appropriate and timely action in the matter. The state government has clamped a curfew in the district and deployed more than 1,500 policemen, including three companies of paramilitary forces, but the situation continues to remain tense. Kandhamal has a population of over 600,000. Of them, 450,000 are from the Hindu Scheduled Tribe (ST) Kandha while most of the others are Panas, 95 per cent of whom are Christians. The majority of the riot victims in the hill-slope villages surrounded by forests were Christians. "Members of the Pana community are financially better off than the tribals. They have been dominating politics and occupy powerful posts in government," Mr Lambodar Kanhar, a tribal leader and secretary of Kui Samaj — the apex body of the Kandha tribe — told IANS. Kui is the mother tongue of the Kandhas. The region has witnessed numerous clashes in the past over attempts of conversion and re-conversion of tribals and Panas by both Christians and Hindus. The trouble had escalated in the early 1990s when the Kui, Kuvi and Kuee groups were added to the Kandhas in the ST list. Since then, Panas — who are classified as a Scheduled Caste (SC) — have been demanding their inclusion in the ST list as well. An ST can continue to get extra benefi
[Goanet] A whiff of Goa in Mumbai (Rahul Srivastava in the Mumbai Mirror)
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/net/mmpaper.aspx?Page=article§id=47&contentid=20080102200801020358202188e234036 A whiff of Goa in Mumbai The reason why Mumbaikars rush to Goa may be nostalgia for a place that reminds them of their past Rahul Srivastava This is the time of the year when we reactivate the Mumbai–Goa hotline with a particular vengeance. Thousands of Mumbaikars zoom off to this tiny state for a temporary respite from their mad city. Is it only the beach parties that pull them to Goa? Or a deeper nostalgia? A nostalgia for a place that reminds them so much of their own past? I know of Juhu residents who are haunted by childhood memories when they visit a quiet south Goa beach. Of friends from Koliwada, Dharavi, who remember how easy it was to catch fish in their own neighbourhood, when they enviously observe commuters in Panjim coolly get off their scooters, drop a line in the Mandovi and pull out a mackerel that they take home for dinner. The nostalgia is heart-felt and deep for many Mumbaikars. And it's a nostalgia that is based on real connections between these two destinations. So real, in fact, that Goa battles its own tendency of becoming like Mumbai all the time as well. Many Goans feel that the twain will meet -- and very soon at that -- in one large urban melting pot. One that is already transforming many Goan villages into slums and its towns into versions of Mumbai suburbs. The point to ponder over is: can Mumbai re-connect with its own Goan heritage? And can this re-connection have any value for its future? By Goan heritage, I don't only mean the common Indo-Portuguese flourishes enshrined in the Bandra, Gorai, Khotachiwadi Matharpakadi architectural legacies. But the structural connection that Mumbai shares with Goa -- its village mode of organising habitats. Just as Goan villages are in danger of being understood as slums in the new urban order that is being superimposed on the state, Mumbai's villages are loosing all possibilities of redeeming themselves from their slum status. The gaothans of the city -- now the object of much scrutiny and debate in the usual FSI mode that we constantly use when thinking of urban development -- are moments in the city that can potentially help maintain some elements of urban sanity. So we don't have to rush off to Goa for an annual escape but can actually walk down a lane and relax in a different time-zone right here, every other day. The gaothans of Mumbai are as much part of the Goa-in-Mumbai imagery as are the common flourishes of their Indo-Portuguese architecture. That's why it's important to pay as much attention when residents of Kumbharwada or Koliwada in Dharavi assert their distinct histories, when they make demands that push forth their own needs to be incorporated within the city's new aspirations in a special way. The sad part is that not only are the developers against the protection of these habitats, but even housing activists are reluctant to deal with their independent spirit. Within the epic-story of Mumbai's housing needs it is easy to view these villages as unfair beneficiaries. It took me a long time to understand that the spirit of Goa in Mumbai does not lie in its architectural flourishes, but in its gaothan history. And it's a history that has remained miraculously alive even under extreme conditions. Let's hope it becomes a basis for some element of civic sanity by our great visionaries intent on making Mumbai a better city. Otherwise it makes absolutely no sense for us to rush off to Goa for an escape from ourselves even as we go about killing every bit of Goa that already exists within. Or maybe it makes perfect sense. • Rahul Srivastava, a PUKAR associate, specialises in urban issues, and writes on traffic, trains, illegal construction, Mithi, monsoon... in short, all things that make Mumbai go grrr
[Goanet] A million thanks to one and all
Dear Goanetters, "What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others" - Periccles. One of our Goanet friends made a bouquet of all your valued messages on the demise of Jorge, and sent them to me, as if on a tray. When I thanked him for his gesture, he said, "I am glad you've read what Jorge de Abreu Noronha, your dear departed husband, meant to just some lives he touched ... at Goanet." (Since this friend does not deign that I disclose his identity, I shall respect his wishes.) Thank you, each and every one of you, for all the wonderful things you said. Jorge really seems to have lived his "dash" well. It may please you to know that Jorge's dinner on Saturday, 24/11 was "pez" with "kalchi coddi" -- of the previous day's "sambarachi coddi" made with dry prawn and "sambar" powder bought from Dr. Nandkumar Kamat's brothers at "Mercearia Mukunda" in Pangim. He ate it with relish. He asked me to cook the same for Sunday dinner. I did that again, but the "tondda laicheac" was left-over fish roe "Vindalho" and I told him that was it. If he wished to continue to have pez at night instead of vegetable soup, it would have to be with "chepni ambli" or "tor," perhaps something lighter. All of you, I guess, were right. Jorge was a Khoro Goenkar. Just as he would, let me set some records right: He was not Mapuca born but Pangim born, at his maternal grandmother's place. He did not teach at a University in Oeiras -- there is no University in Oeiras. Thank you, each one of you, once again and wish you a Very happy New Year, My mother used to say "mellea phatlhant konn monna". I don't know how far that is true. One of my friends who called me from Goa said to me "Livia, you are a big girl" and immediately my mind started hammeing "big girls don't cry, big girls don't cry" .But this, definitly, cannot be true. Livia.
