[Goanet] Beijing Chalo
Beijing kicks off anti-beggar campaign HERALD Jan 4,'08. Beggars were a rare sight in Chinese cities until about 20 years ago when economic reform and a loosening of social controls allowed a massive influx of migrants from rural areas. In 2006, Chinese media said Beijing authorities made a pledge to rid the city of beggars ahead of the hosting of the Olympics with little apparent effect. They also planned to expel migrant workers but officials denied the report. The plan for beggars consists of officers patroling the city 24x7 looking not just for beggars but also peddlers, pamphlet distributors, tricyle taxi drivers sans licenes. Police will focus on the city's main boulevard as well as six key districts. The campaign is intended to promote a harmonious [homogeneous?] , civilised and sound urban environment for the Olympic Games. Any takers for this approach in Goa? If so, why? If not why not?
[Goanet] United Goa Tourists’ Association
United Goa Tourists' Association Visitors to the state have their own selfish demands too By Cecil Pinto The British segment of the marchers was easily the biggest and loudest, and contained more obese pink skinned people than any other section of the protestors. Less Visas - Less Pounds!, Pound for Pound – We spend less but eat more!, Charter trash, brings in cash, were some of the wittier signboards. On the periphery of the group one could see elderly couples handing out pamphlets. I picked up one which read, We are looking to buy a small Portuguese type house anywhere in Goa. Please contact… What else is new? The first ever United Goa Tourists' Protest March, held on 2nd January 2008 on 18th June Road in Panjim, was a massive success. In mid-December 2007 ex-Minister for Tourism, Mathany Saldanha, had made a stupid statement warning tourists to leave Goa because the anti-SEZ movement was going to get violent. With his irresponsible statement Mathany attracted the ire of not just the common man but also the tourism industry and tourists – who have nothing to do with SEZ. The United Goa Tourists' Association was formed, made up of people of all colours and nationalities currently holidaying in Goa. The President and Committee members change every two weeks, passing the baton as it were to the newer arrivals. This is a semi-permanent body with transitory wants and needs, said spokesman advocate Aires Rodrigues. How exactly Aires came into the picture is anyone's guess but he seems to be the spokesman for every aggrieved group these days. Dozen in a Trax, we cum for sax, said another signboard. This from a raggedly bunch of only male Indian tourists of indeterminate ethnicity but probably from Bihar, Rajastan and Madhya Pradesh judging from their attire and paan spitting. I spoke to a middle aged man, reeking of alcohol fumes, dressed in a lungi and a short sleeved banian who exclaimed. Why phor they are closing Baina yaar? We want sax!. At this point I realized they were not lovers of jazz. The Brits were followed by a group of thickset suited Russians surrounded by stunningly sexy showpiece wives and body guards. Stalin rocks! claimed one banner, Help us bring Moscow to Morjim said another. I queried a decent looking guy in a three piece suit wearing sleek dark glasses. We are wrongly being labeled Mafiya. We are just businessmen who like the weather here. All we are asking for is sole rights to gambling and drug dealing from Morjim to Arambol, and a free hand to buy property. A bunch of not-so good looking ordinary Russians followed, who, to put it quite politely, were even less appealing than the unhealthy overweight Brits. A few good looking young women barely managed to balance the equation. What are your demands?, I asked around till I found a tall ramp-model like woman who seemed to be the only one capable of speaking English. We wants all signboards and menu-cards in Goa to be in Russian. Most of us not understanding English and we not able to learning even basic words and phrases. I pointed to an attractive woman carrying a signboard that said, Our husbands are boring and we want to date young Goan studs. Isn't that dangerous?, I asked her. Not at all? she said, Her husband not understanding English either! Followed this was an interesting group of young Indian couples dressed quite brazenly in natty Western outfits. The women wore short mini skirts, backless tops, sleeveless tight t-shirts, low cleavage blouses, very low waist jeans etc, and in general were much more 'revealing' than the stereotyped promiscuous Goan Catholic young woman in Bollywood movies. They also were very ill at ease in their obviously brand new outfits. I cornered one rather plump woman who had somehow squeezed into a tiny skirt and blouse. Are you comfortable dressed this way?. I don't care if I am comfortable, she replied, In Ahmedabad I would never get away dressing this way. Now I can take my chance these four days in Goa and dress and look and feel sexy, for myself and my husband. Her wrestler's shoulders and thunder thighs did not go well with her chosen outfit, but then I'm no fashion guru. What are you protesting against?, I asked her husband, who seemed to be quite proud of his wife's affected Western appearance. We are not protesting anything. We did the North Goa and South Goa tours and are now waiting for evening to do the noisy boat cruise. A young clique of Scandinavians followed. Couples, singles, families – all carrying huge back packs. I spoke to a tall bearded man carrying a small boy on his shoulders, We would like a Special Economic Zone just for us second generation hippy wannabees. Cheap lodges. Cheap scooters on hire. Cheap vegetarian food. No police harassment for using marijuana. Utopia, I thought to myself. Following this lovely group was another one made up of rowdy aggressive looking young Israelis all on scooters and motorbikes.Goa Rave – Rave is Goa. The males were showing off their
[Goanet] 10 new VCDs
Yesterday, I bought 10 new VCDs .. For VCD cover pic, pl click on the links provided below each VCD description VCD No: 162 THANK YOU BROTHER by Comedian Marcos With Com Sally, Com. Slevy, Com. Marcos, Oldrin, Vail etc etc Rs.150Dec/2007 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2166586768/ VCD No. 163 KAZAR By Social Cultural Group of Nagoa Songs VCD Rs.150Dec/2007 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2165790093/ VCD No: 164 DEV PODVEDAR by Rons A Live Show in America With Normandez, Espirito, Evett, Aleena, Demi, Jonas, Alex, Vinsent, Hycinth, Hendretta, Tony, Marcus, Rons etc Rs. 150 (2 CDs)Dec/2007 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2165789367/ VCD No. 165 AXIRVAD DEVACHO by Agnelo Fernandes With Antush, Felcy, Fr. Ashley, Fr. Savio, Fr. Remy, Baptist, Gracy, Fr. Auxemio, Winnie, Pratiksha, Roland, Cecelia etc Rs.200 (2 CDs) Dec/2007 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2166582508/ VCD No. 166 CHINTNAM NHUIM SOPNAM by Joywin Fernandes With Roseferns, Phelia, Anie Quadros, Ulhas Tari, Kiran, Hezel, Anthony, Fatima, Mahesh, Felipe Ameida, Peter de benaulim etc Rs.150Dec/2007 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2166584064/ VCD No: 167 SUKH MEULEM by Elvis Pereira With Neville Pereira, Rosita, Joyce, Anthony, Cyril D souzz, Luis Fernandes, Raquel, Domacin, Sanchia , Boney etc etc Rs.150Dec/2007 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2165790889/ VCD No. 168 SANGAT HO GUNEANV KONNACHO by Neville Pereira With Olga, Greg, Romaldin. Eddie, Alex, Joseph. Lilly etc et Rs.150 Dec/2007 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2166585806/ VCD No. 169 DUKHAM by Querobin Carvalho With Querobin, Marcus, Xavier, Caji, Selvy, Lawry, Osvie, Laurent, Peter-Roshan, Francis de Tuem etc Rs.150 Dec/2007 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2165789777/ DVD/VCD No: 170 BHUELANTLO MUNIS by Tony Coutinho Chris Perry (With English subtitles by Isidore Dantas) With C Alvares, Ophelia, Rico Rod, Cyriaco Dias, Robin Vaz, Souza Ferrao, Paul Romy, Seby Coutinho, Betty Ferns, Ivo, Helen etc etc Rs.300 Dec/2007 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2165788371/ (for mailing/posting DVDs to the country where you live, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED], the charges are.. The cost of DVD Rs.300 plus the cost of Postage - Nirmonn Amchem Noxib also available Rs.300 each) VCD No: 171 TAMBDI MATI by Philip de Orlim With Antonette de Calangute, Felcy, Shruti, Clara Dias, Sucorrine, Roseferns, Anthony San, Lawry, Ulhas Tari, Aurelio, Seby, Luis Bachaan, Com. Domnic etc etc Rs.150 Dec/2007 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2165791265/ A bonus.. Cajie de Sanvordem Special http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085909301size=l [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria-ism of Religion/Cafeteria-ism of religious interpretation
Selma wrote: For instance at some point it becomes untenable to believe that the world was created in seven days while simultaneously believing in the gradual evolution of mankind. Mario responds: You seem to be speaking here about Christian-suprmacists of the Franklin Graham category from your lofty perch as an agnostic-supremacist. Clearly that was an allegory, designed for brilliant analysts to deconstruct and smugly derive much satisfaction from, centuries later. In the meantime, you seem to have missed the gist of the religion completely. Selma wrote: However, the crux of the matter was that Jesus Christ had deeply misrepresented the feelings of the dutiful son and completely misunderstood his angst. If Christ could show such deficiency in his understanding of human nature, than his being Divine was an untenable position for me. Mario responds: Clearly, Jesus Christ was not as brilliant or insightful or perspicacious as you are. Selma wrote: If one does believe in salvation resting in just one religion,... Mario responds: Selmabai, even Jesus Christ did not believe this, or did your surgeon's scalpel of a mind finally miss something in your brilliant deconstruction of the Bible:-))
Re: [Goanet] Nelson Ferrao
anil desai wrote: I admit I am new to Goanet. Sill, I am worried about this fantastic project. Viruses seem to be affecting it. Anil Desai et aliae, As an old timer here on Goanet, I can assure you that you have nothing to be worried about. Secondly, I can also assure you that there are no viruses that have shown affection to Goanet. I have seen some postings from Nelson Ferrao. He/shes his/her best to articulate concerns of many Goans. Does it then matter who he or she is? Articulate? If you have any idea what 'Nelson Ferrao' wrote, it is because you have achieved oneness with the author. For the rest us, his/her style of writing and misuse of words, is torturous to read. We have seen that style before. Several times. As for your question, the answer is yes. It does matter if the person is real or bogus. Counter the arguments he makes rather than accusing him of being a fraud or whatever. Been there. Done that. I, for one would say, keep it up Nelson. The above sentence reminds me of this 2007 award winning one from G.W. Bush. All I can tell you is that when the Governor (Arnold Schwarzenegger) calls, I answer his phone. Mervyn3.0 Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Keeping out-of-state cars out of Goa
To Goanet - The fatuous fervour with which Indians - of all ages - have embraced 31st Dec is hard for the civilized mind to decode. The New Year's Eve just gone by will be most remembered for what it was - a national disgrace. Women groped, fondled, molested raped all across the country: these were the accomplishments of the night. The celebrations had the stamp of the crude, the vulgar and the uncouth, qualities usually associated with North Indians and their Holi revelry. The mayhem caused by all the outsiders in Goa on the 31st has robbed our own celebrations of their traditional dignity. Be that as it may, my concern here is with the motor vehicles that invade Goa during the season. This is a fairly recent phenomenon, concomitant with the rapidly rising levels of car ownership all over India. It begins soon after Deepavali when vehicles from MH and KA pour into Goa and the numbers build up all through Nov and Dec reaching a crescendo of chaos on Dec 31, when the MH and KA savages are joined by their counterparts in GJ, DL, AP and elsewhere. These entrants present more than a nuisance to Goans. Clogging our roads, parking just about anywhere, using public spaces as toilets - very simply, Goa is turned into a trash can. Note that these car rompers do not contribute much by way of tourism rupees. Because they come in their own car, a dozen packed in one jeep, our taxi drivers derive no benefit. Because they sleep in their cars or on beaches or in open gardens, they offer nothing to our hotels. Their contribution to garbage, however, is generous. Only the restaurants conceivably stand to make money. Which begs the question: Should we tolerate these levels of abuse and inconvenience to our lives so that restaurants can make a killing? To ask the question is to answer it. How can we deter these cars and the hordes they pack from swamping Goa? There are two options. One, shoot them at the border. The problem with this option is that a few Goans may object on grounds of cruelty to animals. Therefore, I shall immediately move to option 2. Two, think of the whole state of Goa as a hotel. During the peak season when demand is high the hotel tariff registers a steep increase. Use the same principle. Require every car bearing a number plate other than GA to pay a stiff entry fee at the border during the period beginning with Deepavali and ending on Jan 10. If I were to put a number, 50,000 rupees per vehicle sounds about right for now. Those who really want to come to Goa will be forced to take group public transport (train, bus, airplane). This way we will eliminate the hop-into-your-car-let's-go-to-Goa desi bhai and behenji. Regards, r Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[Goanet] I may be 60..
Ok, what do Sylvestor Stalon, Michael douglas, Amitab bachan , JoeGoauk have in common? Ans: they are all in their 60s Yet JoeGoaUk feels he is different, see what he has to say in this matter.. I may be 60.. Yes, I may be 60, But consider myself very lucky (Very grateful to God) I may be 60, But all of my 32 teeth are intact (Infact, I have 33) I may be 60..every time) But I am not yet baldy (I do lose lot of hair everyday- loss enough to block the bathroom drainage I may be 60 But I still have all my hair natural black (I am lying, I use Godrej Hair Dye) I may be 60 But my mustache colour is still black (w/o any greying) (And I am not lying here) I may be 60.. But I have normal eye sight (except when it comes to newspaper Ads small print) I may be 60.. But never been to an optician (because I know for sure he will give/prescribe me a pair of specs) I may be 60.. But I am still S. active (never used D. sprays and V. tablets) I may be 60 But I am still (re)productive (my wife gone to her Maimger for partak for the 3rd time now) I may be 60.. But I am not into 40s.50s or 60s (I think its Lolita Complex) I may be 60.. But I am lucky to be called 'sexy' (Thanks to the beautiful young women who gave me the title) View my profile here.. http://www.blogger.com/profile/00737567043178530632 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] QMC waiting for another death.
From John Fernandes Quepem Contact No.9822169547 Quepem town is heading toward spread of epidemic as the insect, mosquitoes and flys in Queped town has been drastically increased, thanks to the apathy of the Quepem Municipal council. It may be recalled that since last one month the Quepem Municipal council has not lifted the garbage from the town which has resulted in piling up the garbage all around the town That all the garbage tins meant for garbage are over flowing and in some places tons of garbage is seen gathered all around the tin . That as the garbage has not been lifted it has been decayed in the garbage tins which spreads a bad a dour in the town which resulted in increasing the mosquitoes, insect and other flys in the town. Previously mosquitos and other flys were seen only in the fish market, now they are seen every were. Hundred of mosquitoes are now moving on our vegetable which were previously hardly seen , this may be the result of not lifting the garbage from the town whispered one of the Vegetable vendors who sells her vegetable in the open market who dont want to disclose his name. Due to movement of flys on our vegetable the daily sale of our vegetable has drastically decreased laments another vegetable vendors. @@ Is the Quepem Municipal Council is waiting for another death of a child to take place? If one minutely inspect the playing instruments which are there in the Quepem Municipal Garden one can conclude that the QMC is waiting for the same. It may be recalled that on 26th of December Miss Veera Carvalho, a 7 year old girl from Igramol Deao died when a tourism bench put up the QMC infront of the Holy cross church lost its base and fell on her . The incident so happen due to the negligence of QMC to maintain the said benches put by it . Now all the playing instrument which are there in the Quepem Municipal council are in a dilapidated conditions. They either own out or rusted or not in a good conditions. Even then the children are seen playing over them. When this correspondent visited the garden today evening a hordes of Children mostly of migrant labourers where seen playing over the partly broken or damage instrument which are presently there in the Garden. The Quepem Municipal Garden was renovated in 2001 under MPLAD scheme ,at the cost of Rs.8,52,843/- and was innagurated on 2/2/2002 by the then MP Shri Edward Faleiro .It is regretting to note than since then the QMC has not any sort of maintenance to garden. As a result most of the playing instruments intalled at that time have been damaged. There are no benches to seat if one though of taking rest in the garden. The four wooden benches which are there in the garden are in a totally broken conditions. There are two hammocks one of which is lying on the ground, while other is in a rusted position . one ladder and a ring which are also own out . All other playing instrument are totally in a broken condition. The hay which was grown up in the garden in the last rainy season has been cleaned up by the QMC labourers, however it has been piled up at as many as 10 places in the garden. The iron poles of the broken instrument is posing danger to the children . The conditions of the plants, the lawn on the ground and the conditions of the plants planted in the basket made on the compound wall clearly shows whether the QMC is maintaining it or not. The one Citizen of Quepem claims that if the Quepem municipal council cannot maintain/repair the playing instrument which are there in the garden and which are posing danger to the life of small children or they should they should better close the garden itself. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[Goanet] FRIDAY BALCAO:Life after a Road Accident in Goa: Handling issues of Compensation Disability.
- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO Dear Cybergaonkars on Goanet, Greetings for the New Year 2008 ! We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO on 11th January from 4pm. to 6pm. at Goa Desc Resource Centre No.11, Liberty Apartments, Feira Alta, Mapusa. TOPIC: Life after a Road Accident in Goa: Handling issues of Compensation Disability SPEAKER: Open Discussion. We invite you to express your viewpoint by attending the Friday Balcao event but if you cannot attend, then please send your views and action plan suggestions by post to FRIDAY BALCAO Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507 or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes, Roland Martins --- Don't miss out on the discussion. Information is power, Share it equitably. Lets make things happen in Goa !! --- GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy =
[Goanet] Mando festival in Goa: Jan 7 and 9, 2008
The annual Mando Festival, the event of a colourful form of Konkani music, gets underway at the Kala Academy in Panjim on Janury 7, 2008 (5 pm) and at Narcinva Damodar Naik Hall in Margao on January 9, 2008 at the same time. Groups to take part in the event willo come from Merces (four groups, children's group), Dona Paula, St Xavier's Mapusa and Merces (teenagers' group), YMCA Panjim (senior citizens group), Merces, St Xavier's Mapusa, and Chimbel (original category), St Xavier's Mapusa and Merces (dance category), and Merces and St Xavier's (traditional category). In Margao, participants will come from Fatorda and Velim (children's category), Margao, Navelim and Velim (teenagers' group), Velim (seniors), Sarzora, Nuvem, Margao and Velim (original category), and Nuvem, Margao, Velim, Fatorda, Margao, Rivona and Sarzora (traditional category), besides Velim (dance category). Comperes for the event will be Dr Bicaji Ganecar, Tina Costa, Thomas Fernandes and Ana Tereza Rodrigues (Panjim) and Dr Bicaji Ganecar, Swati Naik, Ana Tereza Rodrigues and Thomas Fernandes (Margao). -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph +91-832-2409490 Links from Goa: http://goalinks.livejournal.com/
[Goanet] Goa news for January 6, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** AIFF gets corporate partner for Goa academy - Hindustan Times [Jan 4, 2008] For starters, a 'world class' academy will be built in Goa for 100 boys. Dasmunshi said workon the academy would start by March 31. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=7831885e-7ffe-444d-9ac4-cedcc3963a97cid=1125776580ei=CSGAR6ftOqXeqwO23-nVDA *** Centre wont impose SEZs against Goas wishes: Chief Minister - Hindu [2 hours ago] PANAJI: The Centre will not thrust uponGoa any special economic zone (SEZ) against the wishes of the State and its people. Chief Minister Digambar Kamat, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2008/01/06/stories/2008010655710900.htmcid=1125540794ei=CSGAR6ftOqXeqwO23-nVDA *** Sporting Clube prevails over East Bengal - Hindu [2 hours ago] Margao: Sporting Clube de Goa prevailed over East Bengal by a solitary goal in an ONGC I-League ninth round match at the Nehru Stadium here on Saturday. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2008/01/06/stories/2008010656411700.htmcid=1125836905ei=CSGAR6ftOqXeqwO23-nVDA *** It was Renzel who wanted Anurag:Karan - Times of India [18 hours ago] It had nothing to do with my patch up with Anurag, adds Karan who has just returned to Mumbai after a short New Year holiday in Goa. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India_Buzz/It_was_Renzel_who_wanted_AnuragKaran/articleshow/2676702.cmscid=1125815428ei=CSGAR6ftOqXeqwO23-nVDA *** SC allows resumption of mining in Goa - Economic Times [Jan 4, 2008] GOA: Iron ore extraction at 16 mining sites in Goa can resume after the Supreme Court gave the go-ahead, on the condition that they pay a combined Rs 100 ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/PoliticsNation/SC_allows_resumption_of_mining_in_Goa/articleshow/2676079.cmscid=1125782572ei=CSGAR6ftOqXeqwO23-nVDA *** Notification for Goa SEZs cannot be withdrawn: Centre - Business Standard [Jan 2, 2008] The central government today said Goas recent decision on seeking de-notification of three special economic zones (SEZs) was legally untenable. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.business-standard.com/economy/storypage.php?leftnm=3subLeft=1chklogin=Nautono=309573tab=rcid=0ei=CSGAR6ftOqXeqwO23-nVDA *** Goa rapped over economic zones - Financial Times [Jan 2, 2008] By Amy Yee in New Delhi India's commerce ministry yesterday disputed a decision by the state of Goa to scrap plans for special economic zones, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ft.com/cms/s/da9aeadc-b99e-11dc-bb66-779fd2ac.htmlcid=0ei=CSGAR6ftOqXeqwO23-nVDA *** \'Golden Quadrilateral road project will cover 6500 km\' - Economic Times [7 hours ago] The Golden Quadrilateral connecting various cities will be covering 6500 kms and will be a six lane project, the minister, who was down in Goa to address ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/Economy/Golden_Quadrilateral_road_project_will_cover_6500_km/articleshow/2677640.cmscid=0ei=CSGAR6ftOqXeqwO23-nVDA *** Kashmir Festival to be held in Kolkata, Indore, Goa - Hindu [Jan 3, 2008] New Delhi (PTI): After wowing Delhi,the art and craft as well as culinary specialities of Jammu and Kashmir are set to travel to Kolkata, Indore and Goa. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200801041116.htmcid=1125763123ei=CSGAR6ftOqXeqwO23-nVDA *** Goa Minister appear before a local court in a threatening case - Newindpress [3 hours ago] PTI PANAJI: Goa health Minister vishwajeet rane on Saturday appeared before a local court in a case pertainingto his alleged involvement in threateninga ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEP20080105081048Page=PTitle=NationTopic=0cid=0ei=CSGAR6ftOqXeqwO23-nVDA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Archbishop's Appeal for a Week of Prayer for Orissa
Pardon me for displaying my ignorance on his issue. Both posts below claim of an original attack. But neither said who did the original attack. The link provided by Santosh to the story in The Telegraph does not claim who orchestrated the attack. (see below) If the attack was orchestrated, then there should be a trail of the conspiracy. Let's have some names or institutions, instead of more innuendoes and what someone believes on either side of the divide. Even if there was an original attack, this looks like a repeat of the Gujarat riots saga. Who ever starts it, the chaos spins our of control with loss of life and property, most of the brunt suffered by the minority. Then to claim the government could / cannot do much to stop it is specious. Do we want another Gujarat or Rwanda type event ... who and however it was started? From the Telegraph: Though the Swami believes that the “violence was spontaneous”, the attack on him “was orchestrated”, to eliminate him. “And that has put the region’s Hindus on the defensive,” he said, while talking to The Telegraph Kind Regards, GL Miguel Braganza AFTER attacking the vehicle with a swami and injuring his driver and POLICE security officer, can one truthfully claim that the violence was unprovoked? If the answer is an assertive YES, I am your fairy godmother! --- Santosh Helekar The interest of communal harmony would have been better served if this official religious body had acknowledged that these horrendous acts of violence also involved, and were most likely provoked by, an attack on a swami, as had been mentioned by Miguel and others. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1071228/jsp/nation/story_8715577.jsp
Re: [Goanet] Goan convention in Toronto
Hi Nelson Please could you say what was particularly good about the Lisbon Convention and would be useful info for the Toronto Convention? Unfortunately, I could not attend in Lisbon. Cornel DaCosta nelson ferrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All Are we going to discuss any matters relating to the state of affairs of Goa? or it is going to be a pure social gathering! The one organised in portugal was very good and this one should be organised on a similar basis.
Re: [Goanet] What Religion is doing in Goa?
From: Dr. U. G. Barad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:40 AM Subject: [Goanet] What Religion is doing in Goa? .*Considering all that is going on in Goa, I sincerely appeal each and every one in the net to start with constructive thinking rather than being destructive. Let's use our talent, knowledge and our experience in re-shaping our already destroyed Goa to bring back good sense and civility. Let's keep our religion out in this attempt. Don't forget Goans has to do this NOW or it will be NEVER - beyond anyone's control! Dear Dr.U.G.Barad, I do agree that we have to be constructive, not destructive. But I agree to disagree with you: let us renew the society unitedly through Religion, not by keeping it out. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Events in Goa...........
The excitement is palpable, as Goans return to their motherland for the Grand Global Goans Reunion Dinner Dance on January 19th, when Goans from the diaspora will meet and dine and dance the night away at the Mandovi Riviera in Panjim. The event promises to be an exciting one for Goans who have dispersed to the four corners of the Globe, when many of us will be meeting friends and acquaintenances after several decades. Viva Goa !! Goa's renowned Forefront Band will playing at the Dinner Dance, and the guest of honor will be Mr. Eduardo Faleiro, Commissioner for NRI Affairs, Goa. The following weekend will see a series of events organized by alumni of St. Joseph;s Convent School Zanzibar (Tanzania) culminating with a grand Ball at the Marriott Hotel, Goa. It is my understanding that tickets to all events organized by this group have been sold out, attesting to the popularity of the events. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria-ism of Religion/Cafeteria-ism of religiousinterpretation
Dear Selma, 1.Bible does not teach that the world was created in seven days. Just read the two creation accounts of Genesis 1:1-2:4a and 2:4b-25, coming from two different traditions. God is the Originator. Bible does not exclude theories of evolution. 2.Jesus has a point in his parable about the Prodigal Son (or better the Elder Son) (See Lk 15:2: Jesus responded to the Pharisees who despised the common people). Jesus came for the vulnerable. All of us need God's love. This is divine logic, not human logic. Unfortunately you seem to have missed it. Yet do not worry. He is the Saviour of the World. This is not cafeteria religion, but scientific biblical interpretation. Fr.Ivo - Original Message - From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria-ism of Religion/Cafeteria-ism of religiousinterpretation Selma wrote: For instance at some point it becomes untenable to believe that the world was created in seven days while simultaneously believing in the gradual evolution of mankind. Selma wrote: Each person chooses their own untenable positions, for me it was the rather benign parable of the Prodigal Son. The reason this parable has such resonance is because every human being imagines themselves to the Prodigal Son. Unfortunately even as a very young child, I identified with the other son; the good, dutiful son who did all the right things. My own elder brother was very errant, and my mother went out of her way to accommodate his many failings and lack of academic interest. Of course, being ten I knew all about Law and Justice and little about motherly love. However, the crux of the matter was that Jesus Christ had deeply misrepresented the feelings of the dutiful son and completely misunderstood his angst. If Christ could show such deficiency in his understanding of human nature, than his being Divine was an untenable position for me. Mario responds: Clearly, Jesus Christ was not as brilliant or insightful or perspicacious as you are. Selma wrote: If one does believe in salvation resting in just one religion,... Mario responds: Selmabai, even Jesus Christ did not believe this, or did your surgeon's scalpel of a mind finally miss something in your brilliant deconstruction of the Bible:-))
Re: [Goanet] Archbishop's Appeal for a Week of Prayer for Orissa
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pardon me for displaying my ignorance on his issue. Both posts below claim of an original attack. But neither said who did the original attack. The link provided by Santosh to the story in The Telegraph does not claim who orchestrated the attack. (see below) If the attack was orchestrated, then there should be a trail of the conspiracy. Let's have some names or institutions, instead of more innuendoes and what someone believes on either side of the divide. It is hard to pardon anybody who accuses others of resorting to innuendo while admitting his own ignorance of the issue. An ignorant man who truly wants to find out the details would at least care to read Miguel's original Goanet post on it. He would learn from the IANS news service report posted by Miguel that the Christian Panas people who clashed with the Hindu Kandha tribals attacked the swami, and the whole thing escalated into mindless violence. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Goan miscellany: HERALD(Goa), Jan 6, 2008
GOAN MISCELLANY By Valmiki Faleiro You are damned if you do, you are damned if you don’t. That sums up the unenviable situation for Goa’s Chief Minister, Digambar Kamat. Digu did. He must now face some inevitable music. After a bit of dithering, he rose as a true Goan, and decided to scrap the Special Economic Zones (SEZs) in Goa, on New Year’s Eve. Almost immediately, half a dozen elected representatives from his side, including three ministers, began plotting to unseat him. SEZs are decidedly suicidal for a small State like Goa. These economy boosters, tried with varying degrees of success in several countries including big neighbour China, were adopted – perhaps with some degree of wisdom – by the Union Ministry of Commerce. SEZs are essentially meant for the big States with vast resources of desolate, idle land. They are meant for far-flung corners with little habitation and infrastructure, where no industrialist, however magnanimous, would otherwise dare venture. That is the reason why a whole array of tax and law incentives have been provided to willing entrepreneurs to pioneer these virtual Industrial Republics in secluded pockets of the country – where normal laws of the land will have no effect. That SEZs were OK-ed in Goa by a few individuals for huge amounts of underhand cash is beyond doubt. The transactions for Goa’s 18 SEZs (some of which masquerade as parks, habitats or enclaves), one learns, took place not only in Panjim but also in Delhi. In the face of such powerful financial interests, it would be virtually unthinkable for any Chief Minister to go against the pecuniary interests of his own political party, to soothe local tempers. Digambar Kamat truly deserves applause – and continued public support. The gap between policy (to scrap the SEZs) and its ultimate realization is fraught with legal and political pitfalls. The SEZ lobby has already upped the ante, via the Union Commerce Secretary. I dare say Kamat must now not stand on political prestige, but take the help of people who have studied the issue … men like Manohar Parrikar, Arvind Bhatikar, and Goa’s legal minds. As for threats to his position, I would, if I were in his shoes, any day prefer going down standing for Goa, than acquiesce in the daylight murder of the little that is left of the Goa we once knew, in order to save one’s chair. Half the 12-member Digambar Kamat cabinet happens to be made of personal level, first-name basis, close acquaintances, if not friends. I know at least three of them will not be pleased with how I think :-) GOA BROADBAND: When Dayanand Narvenkar, Goa’s IT minister, unveiled the Rs.120 crore 10 GBPS (gigabytes per second) Broadband network, only a dude would not smell a swindle. At least one public and one private sector service provider already had fairly extensive high-speed Optical Fibre Cable networks in Goa. Any of them, by open bidding, could have been commissioned to weave internet links between Goa’s eleven talukas – at a fraction of the proposed cost. My otherwise livewire friend, Manohar Parrikar, the Opposition Leader, cried foul about a week after Prime Minister, Dr. Manmohan Singh, inaugurated the first phase of the Goa broadband project. (By the way, I consider Dr. Singh a true friend of Goa – remember it was he who included Goa in the small list of places for the five-year tax holiday when he was Finance Minister, in 1993.) It was quite uncharacteristic of Manohar-bhai to lock the stable door after the horses had bolted. SIMRAN SALUTE: Dr. VN Jindal, the much-respected Neuro Surgeon and Dean of Goa Medical College hospital, issued an order as administrative head to a nurse from GMC’s maternity section: “As per instructions of Health Minister, you are suspended.” Following day, Dr. Jindal issued another order: “As per instructions of Health Minister, the suspension order is revoked.” Thereby hangs a tale, which reflects the personal, day-to- day trauma of nurses, doctors and Deans in Goa’s public hospitals. The nurse, Simran, was in the midst of a childbirth in GMC’s Maternity room, when a male visitor sought entry to meet a female staffer. Simran stoically refused him entry. The visitor called the Health Minister from his mobile phone and complained. The Minister, apparently, decided to speak directly to the nurse. The visitor tried giving his mobile to her, asking her to speak to ‘Baba,’ the Minister. “I don’t need to speak to any Baba,” said Simran, matter-of-factly, “we deliver babas everyday here at GMC.” To Simrans with such spines, my singular salute … may your tribe increase! (ENDS) The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at: http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=330 == The above article appeared in the January 6, 2008 edition of the Herald, Goa
[Goanet] SEZ Mathany
The whole piece is most illuminating. There are enough challenges posed to our fragile tourist economy by the external environment without internal elements fomenting trouble for patently political reasons. How Goa will get over this habit of shooting itself in the foot is something we can wait for with bated breath. Cheers.
[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Bodi Ukholchea Adim Chint
Bodi Ukholchea Adim Chint Ghorant bhitor sortoch, pixi koxi zavn apnnalea eklech putachea gholleak lagpi avoi aiz kitem kai mhonnlear put laginch asun taka zap keli nam. Sumanantle sutten Sonvara disa tigelo ghorkar ghora asta tednam iskolachi yevnchi yevn polleak kis korpi bail, tachea tonddank porian polle nastanam bhitorlea rumant ghusta. Veglich torechi vagnunk pollevn nhoi fokot ghorkar tothaklo punn 3 vorsancho put Lenny pasun khoreanich hich apli mogall avoi kai mhonn chintukuch poddlo. Poilech pavtti aple avoik unchamboll zaleli ti pollevn tacher bhirant aili, ani bapaixim vochunk kori tedna vatter aslele eke khellnink (toy) addlun Lenny dhornnir poddpachea vellaruch Richard-an taka ghott dhorlo. Disonam re tuka? Vattter vostu asat teo disnoant? Sarkem pollevn chollunk zainam? Hatantlim pustokam ani her vostu rumant dovorun bhair sorun yetnam tinnem aplea putacher dhengxo ghalun vicharlem. Avoichea mottea avazacher put bhielo. Bapaik veng marun huddkea huddkeamni roddunk laglo. Richardachem mostok challvolem. Bailechea islean motte dole korit mhonnlem. Savita, tuka vaitt zavnchea adim tujea ragacher tabo dovor. Bhaili khorkhorai ghevn tum ghorant bhitor sorlam. Tujea sobhavacher nodor marlear, tuka pixeanchea sunneamnim chablam dista. He toren vagunk, tujem zalam kitem? Richardan tapsannimcho pavs votoun vicharlem. Kazari jivintantlim 7 vorsam ekvottan sorlim. Punn kednanch Richard-an aple bailek he toren vagleli pollevnk nam nhoi mhonn ek ragachem utor taka vo tanchea morgad putak ucharunk nam. Kazarachea 4 vorsam uprant anvgovnneanim magon ghetlelea follacher aiz ti poilech pavtti tapleli. Ani hakach lagon Richardache mostokak tiddok choddun tannem koddok tallean vicharlem tednam tinnem aple hat dakhoit mhonnlem. Hea tallttanim (palms) palmatoricho mar khaila. Ek dis homework korunk nam tor fatrancher dimbieo ghalcheo poddleat. Klasik late pavlim zalear, mathear pustoka dorun iskolachea kompanvdan dhavnnim ghatleat. Klasin uloitanam sampodlim tor, tednache chimtteanche dhag ajun distat. Ghora kodden avoik-bapaik kolit kelar vo tokrar dilear mhoji avoi mhaka sangtali, tticher zavn asa mhonn dusri avoi. Sogllem sonslelem dekhunuch aiz mhaka xist (discipline) mhonnttlelea sobdacho orth sozmota. Adleo gozali atam kiteak uspitai? Ani tevui zalear rag-kirod ghevn? Mhaka dista, hea disanim tum newspaper sarko vachinam. Xikxokanim, iskolantlea bhurgeancher koslei toren tras vo mar-pet korunk zainam mhonn Bhurgeanchea Hokk Rakhtole Aeogan (National Commission for Protection of Child Rights) nove kaide jahir keleat te sangche sangun hea kaideancher khor niall korpak Principal-an amkam homework dila. Zalear, iskolantli khorkhorai ghorant kiteak haddtai? Richardan vichalem. Oh my dear I am so sorry, apli chuk ollkun tticher Richardaxim yevn putachea polleak hat lavn kori tedna put bhyelelea porim zavn bapaichea kakeant odik chitkun ravlo. Tujea khas dolleanim tunvem pollelem nhoi? Khaxea avoichea dhengxeak amcho put kitlo bhyelo poi to? Dusreanchim lhan bhurgim iskolant xiktat. Tanchea ghorant tankam apurbai mellta ani kallzant koslich bhirant nastanam avoi-bapaichea mogan tim vaddtat. Punn iskol ek dusrem ghor. Thoinsor xikxonnam borabor dusreo somajik-atmik, monisponnache xistin fuddarache roste cholunk xikoitat. Tticher Savitan aplea ghorkarak sanglem. Hem tujem mandun ghetam hanv. Toddem bhov mansugeche gunn bhurgeam sovem asunk zai mhonn. Punn tticheareanim aplea ragacher tabo samballunk zai. Todde pavtti ghorchem kestanv iskolant haddun bhurgeamcher rag kaddtat. Ttichericho ghorkar offisantle cholie thaim boro aslear to rag bhurgeancher kaddcho? Ghorkarnn, aple avoik tras dita mhonn Sir-an iskolachea bhurgeank sotavop? Ekach utran amche xikxiki/xikxok (teachers and sirs) asat tim bhailem kestanv iskolant ghevn yetat ani innosent bhurgeank tapoitat. Tankam ginean naslelim ani dusrea nanvanim opman kortat. Zati-katicho veglozar korun unneponnan lektat tednam bhurgeancher kuddichi ani monachi dukh zata mhonn Bhurgeanchea Hokk Rakhtole Aeogan gomun ailam. Chodd pois kiteak vetai? Polle amchea porak. Kitlo bhyelolo asa poi to. Dusrea bhurgea vixim hoch namuno (example) tuka puro. Punn hanvem Zannam hanv. Tuka khub sonsnikai asa mhonn, tticherik fuddem ulovpachi bond korun Richard-an mhonnlem. Punn aichi tuji kornni nhoinch mhaka, amchea putak porian vaitt disun monacho probhav tacher zalo mhonn tuka ugtem dista. Toddea velan to zagear yetlo tea mhonnosor anik ek aik Kitem? Hea fuddem tunvem mhojerui zobordosti korchi nhoi mhonn xiddkaitam. Kosli? Todde pavtti mhozo obheas favo te porim zainam tednam repeat-repeat korcheak tuji magnnim astat Shut up you naugty Lino B. Dourado . http://www.goa-world.com/goa/poems
[Goanet] Centre won't impose SEZs against Goa's wishes: Chief Minister
Centre won't impose SEZs against Goa's wishes: Chief Minister Special Correspondent PANAJI: The Centre will not thrust upon Goa any special economic zone (SEZ) against the wishes of the State and its people. Chief Minister Digambar Kamat, who returned from New Delhi on Friday, got this assurance from Union Commerce Minister Kamal Nath. Mr. Kamat told The Hindu that he was very much satisfied with his discussions with the Minister in New Delhi on Thursday. Shantaram Naik, MP and Goa Chief Secretary J. P. Singh were present at the meeting. Mr. Naik said Mr. Nath had asked the Chief Minister to give a representation in writing citing the grounds for seeking de-notification, which, the Commerce Ministry would examine. Ground realities Mr. Naik said the Minister was of the view that no SEZ could function if a State government and the people were against it, and therefore, ground realities were relevant in such matters. Putting to rest the controversy over lack of powers to the SEZ Board to de-notify an SEZ in response to a State government's withdrawal of its earlier recommendation, Mr. Naik said an authority which had power to issue a notification had inherent power to withdraw it and that no specific provision was required for that purpose. Mr. Naik did not see any need to amend any provisions of the SEZ Act. 'Misrepresented facts' Mr. Naik said the notified SEZ applicants had misrepresented facts regarding requirement of land, environment hazards, employment potential, etc. As such they could not seek any relief from the State government for reversing its decision. http://www.hindu.com/2008/01/06/stories/2008010655710900.htm ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] Silver lining?
HERALD 6/1/07 p.5: In this report titled Centre will not thrust SEZs on Goa: Kamal nath to Naik there is this ingenious argument put forward by Shantaram Naik, Rajya Sabha MP which may be worth noting for future use in a different context. He says: An authority which has power to issue a notification has INHERENT power to withdraw it and that no specific provision is required for the purpose. If that be indeed the case then what is preventing the Goa government or at least the high powered committee looking into the Mopa project requesting the Centre to revoke the Union Cabinet resolution of 2000. This would go a long way to leveling the playing field in the decision about Mopa. Currently it is inherently biased in favour of a mega project at Mopa which would necessitate the closure of Dabolim civil enclave to ensure viability. Hence the ICAO's foregone conclusion that two airports cannot be viable and two airports constitute a second best solution. If the resolution is revoked then an objective look can be taken of what kind of Mopa project will co-exist with Dabolim civil enclave for the long haul. Previously the only precedent for such revocation may have been the PM's unilateral decision to roll back the Cabinet decision regarding some PSU or other in Tamil Nadu when threated with an ultimatum by coalition partner DMK some months ago. Shantaram Naik provides another arrow in the quiver.
Re: [Goanet] Centre won't impose SEZs against Goa's wishes: Chief Minister
Centre won't impose SEZs against Goa's wishes: Chief Minister PANAJI: The Centre will not thrust upon Goa any special economic zone (SEZ) against the wishes of the State and its people. Chief Minister Digambar Kamat, who returned from New Delhi on Friday, got this assurance from Union Commerce Minister Kamal Nath. First of all, why is Goa's internal policies dictated by the Center, do Goans have any spine? Secondly, why is this nonsense that SEZs won't be implemented repeated without contesting the bigger hoax. SEZs have been the latest in a long line of land grab scams (food parks, IT parks, RP 2011). The SEZs will be given a new name and the con game will continue. Does anyone doubt that the land mafia and greedy developers will quietly go away? Does anyone believe what the sewer rats (Goan politicans) say anymore? Regards, George
