Re: [Goanet] North East

[Fr. Ivo C da Souza]

From: "Nascy Caldeira" 
dear Santosh,
U have surely 'lost the plot' much earlier, and now I feel that U are 
loosing it, and that's for sure!
U know what I mean. I nor any goanettors, do not need to be a 'Scientist' or 
a neurosurgeon/ scientist to 'read you', behind the lines.

Keep writing like this and damage your own earlier good reputation!
Regards!
Nascy Caldeira
Down Under.

--- On Mon, 9/2/09, Marshall Mendonza  wrote:

Santosh: Having provided fatality numbers in India from a source that I
consider to be multi-partisan
Response:
An institution linked to the RSS and headed by persons associated with the
RSS is considered multipartisan. Ha ha ha!! That was a good joke. Tell us
another one, just like the other one, tell us another one too ..

***While reading the news I found the following. I suppose it is reliable 
information.

I have to cut and paste for the readers so as to help ourselves.
This helps us to diagnose what is affecting and inffecting our humanity and 
empathy.

Let us forgive them, but be alert! This is violation of human rights.
Regards.
Fr.Ivo


Attackers asked me not to speak to Christians or Muslims
Posted by: "Ancy S DSouza Paladka" mangaloreancathol...@gmail.com
Sun Feb 8, 2009 6:22 pm (PST)
`Attackers asked me not to speak to Christians or Muslims'
Govind D. Belgaumkar and Sudipto Mondal

MANGALORE: "They wore tilak on their foreheads and kept telling me
that non-Hindus are inhuman," Shruthi, a student of St. Aloysius
College here, who was attacked by suspected Hindutva activists on
Friday for speaking to a Muslim boy while travelling in a bus, said on
Sunday.

She was reacting to reports that the group which attacked and abducted
her was from the Democratic Youth Federation of India.

She said that they asked her not to speak to Christians or Muslims
because they were "inhuman." "They insisted that only Hindus are human
beings and others are not," she added.

This is the third such attack reported in the city in the recent past.
On August 24, a bus was intercepted at a prominent junction in the
city. A Hindu girl and her Muslim fiancée were dragged out of the bus
and assaulted by a group.

On August 8, activists of Bajrang Dal stopped a bus in the city and
assaulted Syed, Zulfikar and Ameen.

The activists took offence to the fact that these youth helped a few
girls with their bags as they did not get seat in the bus. Bajrang Dal
leader Sudarshan Moodabidri had claimed responsibility for both the
attacks.

Ms. Shruthi said that the people, who had attacked Shabeeb (her
friend), had taken away his cellphone. Shabeeb tried to call his
friends when the group surrounded him.

She said that she was not able to contact Shabeeb to find out his
whereabouts and condition.

Source: The Hindu
http://www.hindu.com/2009/02/09/stories/2009020954780500.htm

[Goanet] With no income, Neura family struggles to live in Merces, Goa

[Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com]

GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) 
  









With no income, Neura family struggles to live


Manuel Vaz

MERCES, FEB 7, 2009

Goa is being rated as one of the best State in the country and Chief Minister 
Digambar Kamat makes a mention of it on many occasions. However, the picture is 
not quite rosy for many and there are still some families in the State, who 
cannot even afford a single meal and find it difficult to make both ends meet.

In one such instance at Gudiwada-Neura, Bhima Naik (45) and his wife Raksha 
(40) have no source of income and are struggling to survive. Bhima is afflicted 
with polio and has cataract in one of his eyes, while Raksha Naik suffers from 
tuberculosis.
The couple also has two children to look after and they are entirely dependent 
on generous donors for their survival.
Being polio-afflicted and with poor vision, Bhima is unable to do any job and 
the family was dependent on Bhima’s wife Raksha, who was doing menial jobs, to 
earn their livelihood.
However, Raksha contracted tuberculosis and became bed-ridden due to weakness 
and is currently undergoing DOTS treatment.
Her weakness means that Raksha is unable to work, thereby depriving them the 
only source of income and now the entire family is completely dependent on 
charity.
Their daughter Rakhi Naik (13), who was studying in Std 7, has also left 
school, while Saish is five years old.
The house, where the family stays, is also in a dilapidated condition, with a 
weak roof posing threat of collapse. And to compound their miseries, the 
century-old traditional pathways leading to Naik’s house are blocked due to 
construction of compound walls by neighbours, thereby forcibly restricting the 
movement of the family members.
This correspondent himself found it difficult to enter the Naik’s house and was 
surprised to find the house virtually fortified by walls on almost all sides.
As it is, the Naik family is living a hand-to-mouth existence and fighting a 
legal battle in such circumstances is definitely an arduous task, which has 
meant that the Naiks have had to suffer the injustice silently.
www.oheraldo.in 
 
- Goa-World.Com Team requests Manuel Vaz to contact us at 
goaworldto...@gmail.com 
in order to assist the Naik family in Merces in their hour of need.  A group of 
individuals and  subscribers of Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter have voluntarily came 
forward to contribute towards this cause.  Any person/organization also wishing 
to contribute may  email their name, contact telephone in order to 
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[Goanet] God and you

[Albert Desouza]

Every Christian should reason out his moves on earth. God has given us a power 
to reason. We should always accept the owner and creator of this world -God the 
Father. He is known as I am who am. This God is the power, love and everything. 
In this world everything that comes to us -namely air, water, sunlight, sun 
moon and stars comes from God. The Bible teaches us everything. The very 
begining of the Holy Bible -Genisis- tells us lots of things- The very first 
thing that this chapter teaches us  is God is love-He has created this lovely 
world.He has ordered us "Increase and multiply and fill the earth-He loves 
human beings and promises to take care of them. God created Moses for us 
.Through Moses we got the ten commandments. We have to follow these 
commandments and with the help of these commandments we have to bind ourselves 
to God. Mary is the creation of God. Her role is only to bring Jesus into the 
world. Nobody not even God or Mary herself has asked you to make Mary the 
mother of God. Does any one reason out what it means to make a creation equal 
to the creator ? It is blasfamey. Mary is the mother of Jesus who teaches us 
only to follow God's plan and to show concern for fellow creations. When Jesus 
was resurected and went up to Heaven and the Holy Ghost descended on the 
apostles Mary was there but the Holy Ghost did not touch her for she did not go 
out like Peter and other apostles to preach the good news of Jesus. The bible 
does not speak about Mary much because she has not much role in creations and 
spreading the good news of Jesus her son. The Catholic church in the begining 
of the 19th century or 20th century has zoomed devotion of Mary for its 
survival only. They have made her the mother of God and we are made to believe 
that Mary will stand before God and plead for us and that is the reason we see 
lots of holy people wearing a necklace of Rosary and reciting Rosary. Even 
Lucia who was supposed to have seen Mary at Fatima never made any public 
statements all her life. She could have preached her appariation. Even ETWn 
could have had interviews with Lucia to allow the world to know what the truth 
was. Nothing came out till she died .We are made to believe that Mary was seen 
with a rosary and she told the three children to recite the Rosary. Now the 
Rosary is a creation of some priest and how could Mary suddenly think of Rosary 
when there are so many beautiful prayers praising God ? It could have been the 
Magnificat which she had sung. I would be happy if the church had to tell us to 
sing the magnificat every day instead of the rosary. Many of the priests and 
nuns themselves are in a confused state and they mention about the believers 
and what they do openly in their sermons forgetting that these priest can be 
seen on the TV channel .Sometimes one priest will take against the other 
priest. Like One priest openly critised the Potta fathers in his sermon and 
said that it is Milagrimcho bazaar. -Miracle market- It is high time we ask God 
to change us. Our life needs a change. We have to come closer to God the father 
and through Jesus we can be saved for It is Jesus who has promised us to save 
if we go to the Father through Him and not through Mary. Do not be offended. Do 
not be an emotional fool .Love God above all things and like Mary love your 
neighbour as she has loved her neighbours when she was on this earth.
albert de Souza 
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[Goanet] Daily Grook #318

[Francis Rodrigues]

DAILY GROOK #318
___

FASHION LESSON
___
by Francis Rodrigues


designer gear
makes a show,
homemade wear
looks sew-sew!


_
puns & word-play of all kinds,
hey...read between the lines!
_


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[Goanet] Churches of the Goa Archdiocese

[Antonio Menezes]

There are more than 150 churches in the Goa Archdiocese out of which, more
than a third  are dedicated
to Our Lady as follows:

OUR LADY OF the Rosary ( 8 churches),  Immaculate Conception 5,  Miracles
4,  3 churches each for
Mother of God,  Grace,  Lourdes,  Piety, and Scorro ,  2 each for
Assumption,  Bethlehem, Candelaria,
Fatima, Help,  Hope, Merces,  Remedios,  and  Snows and one each for
Amparo,  Consolation,
Desterro,  Flight,  Glory,  Guadalupe, Help,  Help of Christians, Livra
Febres,  Mount Carmel,
Penha de Franca,  Pilar,  Sea,  Sick , Victory,  M  other of the Poor and
Queen of Martyrs.
(Total  67 churches)

SANTAS:  St. Anne (5),  St.Rita of Cassia (2),  and one each for  St. Agnes,
St. Catherine, St.Clare,
St. Elizabeth and St. Tereza of Jesus.   ( Total 12 churches )

SANTOS;   St. Francis  Xavier ( 10),  St.Anthony 7,  St. Joseph 5,  St.
Sebastian 5,  3 each for
St. Thomas,  St. Michael, 2 each for St Lawrence, St Cajetan  St. Matthew,
St. John the Baptist,
St. Alex,  St. Andrew,   and one each for  St Bartolomeu, St.Blaise,  St.
Christopher,
SS Cosmas & Damien,  St. Diogo,  St. Francis of Assisi,  St. Jacinto, St.
Jerome, St. John of
the Cross, St. John the Evangelist,  St. John Facundo,  St. Peter, SS Philip
& James,
St. Roque and St Stephen  ( Total 60 churches )

Holy Cross 4,  Holy Family 2,  Holy Spirit 2,  Holy Trinity 2,  Saviour of
the World 2,   and one
each for Bom Jesus,  Guardian Angel,  Jesus Mary Joseph,  Reis Magos and
Sacred
Heart of Jesus.  (Total 17 churches )

Source:  Directory of the Goa Archdiocese

Re: [Goanet] Attack on Women at an Indian Bar Intensifies a Clash ofCultures - NYTimes.com

[Fr. Ivo C da Souza]

From: "Ruby Goes" 
Subject: [Goanet] Attack on Women at an Indian Bar Intensifies a Clash 
ofCultures - NYTimes.com


Goanetters,
> The whole world knows. Shame!
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/09/world/asia/09india.html?_r=1&th&emc=th


***All of us are disturbed with such news. Let us listen to what the people 
say. I am providing a posting coming on
the Website on this topic, without touching it nor giving any comments. Our 
discussion can be guided by people who have a scientific knowledge of the 
problem.

Regards.
Fr.Ivo

Even the sutras allowed some alcohol on happy occasions
Posted by: "Ancy S DSouza Paladka" mangaloreancathol...@gmail.com
Mon Feb 9, 2009 10:49 am (PST)
Even the sutras allowed some alcohol on happy occasions

Ramayana has it that Ram offered Maireya, a favourite wine of the
royalty, to his bride Sita

The Other Side | Mrinal Pande

The Sri Ram Sene, or Lord Ram's army, whose self-appointed guardians
recently dragged young men and women out of a pub in Mangalore and
thrashed them for drinking in public, may be disappointed at what the
scriptures say.

Contrary to what the Sene believes, Hindu scriptures are full of
references of gods, goddesses, kings and queens enjoying their drink.

Ramayana has it that Ram offered Maireya, a favourite wine of the
royalty, to his bride Sita. And later, when on their exile, while
crossing the Ganga, Sita vowed that if they survived the 14-year
ordeal and returned unharmed to Ayodhya, she'd pour a thousand jugs of
wine into the river as thanksgiving. When the couple did return, says
Valmiki, author of the epic, the city celebrated with binge drinking
and happy slogans. A delirious Ayodhya, writes Valmiki, reeked of joy
and wine for days.

True, the Rig Veda frowns somewhat on alcoholic drinks and says they
may cloud one's judgement and lead minds astray. But a little later,
the sutras (treatises on the Vedas) say that people may swill
alcoholic drinks on happy occasions such as the arrival of an honoured
guest, entering a newly built house or the arrival of a bride into the
family. The sutras also lay down a caste-based list of who shall drink
what. They forbid the warrior castes from drinking grain-based liquor,
but permit them to drink wine brewed from fruits and flowers.

Traders and sailors and non-caste folk could drink what they liked.
Later, Vedic literature mentions several popular drinks such as Kilala
(a sweet fermented alcoholic drink), and Masara (filtered rice gruel
liquor much like the Handiya still drunk by the tribals in central
India) and Madira (a honey-based drink).

Ramayana refers to four types of liquors, Kautilya's Arthshastra
(fourth century BC) mentions a dozen and Charaka, the medicine man,
refers to 84 kinds of alcoholic drinks. Kautilya mentions that in his
time, there were liquor vends in most villages and janpads (districts).

Rice, barley, honey, sugar cane products, sap of coconut and palmyra
trees and numerous sweet fruits (ber, grapes, mangoes and dates) and
flowers (Mahua and Kadamba) were used to create intoxicating brews.
Dhataki flowers were used to tinge extracts with eye-catching red colour.

Not content with the home brewed, by the beginning of first century
AD, our ancestors were also importing at least two kinds of
grape-based wines from Afghanistan (Gandhar). The chief minister of
Karnataka, so vociferous against the pub culture in his state, would
do well to know that the southern states took the lead in importing
and exporting alcoholic drinks as trade with Rome grew. Ports in
southern India were importing large quantities of Roman wines
delivered in containers called amphorae, when their northern brethren
were still making do with crude brews extracted from grains. Toddy or
taadi, distilled from palmyra and coconut palms, remained the aam
admi's favourite drink down south. Arrack, a distilled version of
taadi, was especially beloved of sailors who frequented the coastal
regions. Kuttanad (in Kerala) was voted the producer of the best kind.
Another favourite was thoppi extracted from fermented rice. The
flavour of this extract was enhanced by distillers who poured the brew
into hollow bamboos and buried it in the earth to mature. In the
mountainous regions, honey was fermented similarly to produce an
expensive alcoholic beverage for the elite.

Records of around seventh century AD include drinking traditions of
Kashmir and the North-East. Chinese traveller Huen Tsang notes
warriors favoured fruit and sugarcane-based drinks, while traders
enjoyed strong distilled liquor. Some Brahmins were happy to imbibe
alcoholic beverages in the company of women.

Despite the ban on drinking in Islam, there are references from the
Sultanate period to drinks being served at gatherings of nobility.
Among the Mughul emperors, Babur enjoyed wine as did Jehangir and
Shahjehan; Aurangzeb was a strict teetotaller.

The first distillery was registered in Kanpur in 1805. Today each
district and village has either a licit or i

[Goanet] Talking Photos: Of fashion shows and beauty contests

[JoeGoaUk]

Talking Photos: Of fashion shows and beauty contests

Isn't she beautiful?
She was even more beautiful whilest dancing (wud u like a vid clip?)

Kash! Mein unki umar ka hota!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3266329590/

Some more (with venita, judges, GTDC satardekar etc)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3264434269/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3264434263/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3266328876/


Girls, here is something for you

Full monty.
Sorry, it's from Monty Sally fashion show 
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Wud u like a clip on this?


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Re: [Goanet] Fanatic Christian Principal

[Fr. Ivo C da Souza]

From: "marlon menezes" 

Dear Fr. Ivo,
I am equally critical (and supportive) of all religious faiths. I believe 
there is a place for religion in society and if people wish to believe in 
something, they should be free to do so. I also support the right of 
people to proselytize, which includes christian prosetylization in India.
***I am glad that your are critical and supportive of all religious faiths, 
that you give a space for religion in the human society and in human 
existence, that you support the right of people to "proselytize" (I would 
prefer the word: "proclaim" what we believe, in words and in deeds, in works 
of education and care of the needy and abandoned children of God). I should 
add that religion is a structural dimension of  human existence, that all 
have the right of expression, but it should be in charity and love, in 
dialogue with others. Listening to others and reacting to them with 
politeness is certainly the right behaviour. Proclamation is part and parcel 
of Christianity. It is rooted in God's revelation. This should not lead us 
to despise others with superiority complex but to dialogue with others. All 
religions are ways to God, they are salvific means. But all religions cannot 
be equally good. They can also be "distorted". We are left with a choice. 
All ways to a goal are not equally good, we choose the best one. When there 
are several remedies of different trade marks and medical companies, we 
choose the best ones. The physician is careful to give what he thinks is the 
best product for the patients. It is not the religions that save, but God 
saves us through religions, cultures and even atheistic beliefs. I hope you 
know the teaching of the Catholic Church, when you are criticising it...


You claim below that you are not a fundamentalist, but then state "we know 
what we claim". You seem to be overly cocky in the undeniable superiority 
of your religious faith over others - christian uber alles. It seems that 
your religious beliefs allows for no give and take with other faiths. 
There is one absolute and it is the christian way. Sorry, but this IS 
fundamentalism.
***Knowing one's own religion, which we are professing, is necessary. 
Therefore, I said that "we know what we proclaim" (not as you wrote: "we 
know what we claim"). We do not profess superiority, but our conviction that 
salvation comes from God, revealed by Jesus of Nazareth. We are in dialogue, 
by listening and being critical and rational about what we believe, as you 
are "critical (and equally supportive) of  all religious faiths". But sorry, 
this is not "fundamentalism". We call "fundamentalism" the conservative 
intepretation of Bible which does not take into account the 
historico-critical exegesis. Creationism would be "fundamentalism".
But the biblical concept of Creation is not "fundamentalism", it does not 
exclude the theories of Evolution. Interpreting wrongly the Bible and 
thinking it is the only way is "fundamentalism"... Bible and Science should 
be in dialogue. Religion and Science cannot be at odds... Faith and Reason 
cannot be in conflict...

Regards.
Fr.Ivo


--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Fr. Ivo C da Souza  wrote:
> I am for dialogue... The Church is rooted in God's Revelation. This is 
> basic to all discussion.
> We are not fundamentalists, we do not "spout venom against hindus and 
> muslims", we know what we proclaim. Marlon may have a bias against 
> religion and religious people, but then this is not a rational attitude. 
> This is "a-theistic fundamentalism" to the core... If atheism is 
> rational, theism is also rational.

Regards.
Fr.Ivo

[Goanet] Photo(s): Santa Cruz (Saint Augustine) Chruch

[Goa Observer]

Quote>>
Support for Goa observers - Message # 7
Thanks for your photos of the Holy Cross.
Back
home in Goa next to my house high voltage electricity pole line is
passed.  And the symbol(KATHRA/DANGER) which is mention on this main
picture which can be seen within the front Alter is exactly the metal
plate put on electric pole.
Could you please check it out for my sake if this Cross is blessed by the 
church and where is the location.
We(Christian)
are corrupted in every way and if we have a wide look on this earth. 
We are the PERFECT PROSTITUTES for others on our own land.
>>end Quote

- Mr. Joaquim Almeida

Yes, you have a keen sense of observation. It really is a danger sign. I 
haven't been able to gather much facts about it. It's situated on a scenic 
narrow road with ponds n grasslands on either side. Somewhere between Taleigao 
and Santa Cruz (Saint Augustine) Chruch.  Below are some snaps of the beautiful 
Church.

Links

http://www.flickr.com/photos/goaobserverstream/3243498986/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/goaobserverstream/3243498992/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/goaobserverstream/3243498994/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/goaobserverstream/3243503280/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/goaobserverstream/3243503294/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/goaobserverstream/3243508770/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/goaobserverstream/3243508774/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/goaobserverstream/3243508780/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/goaobserverstream/3243508786/sizes/o/

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[Goanet] India's second humanoid robot unveiled at Quark

[Venantius Pinto]

Bhogos Saiba.
NOT, "one that never FALLS down," but one that is never FAILING(as in
INFALLIBLE). Also imperishable.
Acyuta: one of the 24 incarnations of Vishnu and Krishna.

venantius
___
From: "D'Souza, Avelino" 
Subject: [Goanet] India's second humanoid robot unveiled at Quark

Acyut in Sanskrit means "one that never falls down," said Samay Kohli,
leader of the team, and exuded confidence that Acyut 2 would live up to
that image in the RoboGames ahead and romp home with a medal

More at:
http://www.hindu.com/2009/02/09/stories/2009020959921000.htm

~(^^)~

Avelino

[Goanet] Schools of controversy (Frederick Noronha)

[Goanet Reader]

Schools of controversy

A state which lacks any ability
or attempt to provide the bulk
of its people with productive
jobs, has no right to clip
their wings, educationally.

DEVIL'S ADVOCATE/By Frederick Noronha

  It's that time of the year when parents -- mothers
  specially -- scurry around to find a suitable
  school for their children. From a State which had a
  wide choice of rural-and-urban schools, we are now
  creating an artificial scarcity in Goa.

Thanks to the ill-conceived, opportunistic (from varied
angles) and badly motivated approach, primary education in
Goa is being segregated on class lines. While the few, pricey
English-medium primary schools are being avidly sought, a
wide range of (mostly Church-run) schools are seeing
better-off students leave them.

Instead of studying in their own villages, young kids are
forced to go to urban and semi-urban areas.

  In fact, the middle-classes have seceded from what
  used to be perfectly acceptable schools till the
  early 1990s. So, these are now falling lower in
  standards. Even as a new set of unfunded,
  fee-charging primary schools mushroom, there is a
  perceptible decline in the earlier set of schools
  that equipped generations of Goans to migrate or
  tap the national and global market of English jobs.

(Even while the Portuguese ruled here, Lisbon was realistic
enough. The colonial administration realised that English
medium schools were in demand. Salazar notwithstanding, in
the 1940s, a crop of new schools opened in places like Mapusa
and Margao and Guirim, some of which celebrated their golden
jubilees recently. Other English-medium schools like St
Joseph's in Arpora and Mater Dei in Saligao, have been around
long enough to educate four or more generations. Many of them
have gone on to do amazingly well, more so when you consider
they've come out of a tiny ruralscape, not some large metro.)

Today, as Goa goes ahead bullheadedly destroying the future
of its children, we need to take stock what's happening.

Irony is rife in the field of education.

Church-run institutions were the guinea pigs and the major
party affected by the primary medium switch-over. Their
administrators went ahead, despite protests from parents.
These institutions got affected simply because, in times when
no grants were given to this stage of education, it was
largely the Church network which ran non-governmental primary
schools.

Today, these institutions have a comical policy. They start
of with pre-primary education in the English medium, then
switch to Konkani for Std I to IV. After Std V, almost the
entire of Goa shifts over to English as the medium.

Even Romi Konkani-backers recognise that there is some
problem somewhere. But while they blame the difficulties
caused by the sudden switch-over, their suggestion is to
continue a higher dose of Konkani in middle school too!

  While Goa is going about dismantling its long links
  with English, with a vengeance almost, other States
  are doing differently. Of course, anyone
  questioning this approach in Goa would probably be
  termed "denationalised" or "anti-Konkani".

But spare a thought for the reality elsewhere.

Writes the British newspaper The Guardian: "After two decades
during which English language teaching was banned in primary
schools, West Bengal has woken up to the fact that it needs
to re-engage with a language that is now recognised as a key
to economic development."

The writing is on the wall elsewhere too. After a
14-year-battle, a court ruling in Karnataka in mid-2008 saw
students in unaided private schools free to choose their
medium of instruction. In 1994, not long after Goa's primary
education went 'regional', Karnataka ordered all recognised
schools to follow Kannada or the respective mother tongue as
the medium of instruction from Std I to V. Strangely, this
did not apply to schools started before 1994!

Earlier this decade, even Modi's Gujarat decided to introduce
English as a subject from Std I.

 In fact, statistics say English (after Hindi and
 Marathi) is now the third most important language in
 India if one goes by the medium of instruction at
 upper primary level. India's southern states in
 particular have seen a dramatic growth in English
 medium upper primary schools.

In post-license permit raj days, the courts are questioning
the logic of State-diktats on must-teach
mediums-of-education. When linguistic minorities went to
court, it was interpreted that they have a right to include
any choice of medium of education, which could be English.

For instance, Tamil Nadu's high court ruled in favour of the
Association of Matriculation Schools and others, to quash a
state order mandating all primary schools in the state to
change to the Tamil medium within a stipulated period.

 

[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (10Feb09)

[alexyz fernandes]

Outside a Panjim Bar

"He's a Graduate from the Grape Escapade"


To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit:   www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by  www.goasudharop.org

[Goanet] Talking photos: Please Identify these fruits/Tree (with pictorial Ans.)

[JoeGoaUk]

Talking photos: Please Identify these fruits/Tree (with pictorial Ans.)

Another bigger version: See Figs below
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3259271877/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3260103376/sizes/l/
Abv pics taken from Vasco Market.

Which is the ans for below: links posted earlier.

Please Identity these fruits/Tree

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3240486585/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3241319950/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3241320234/sizes/l/

Close-up with some ripped ones
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3241319196/sizes/l/

Also seen in this pic, posted earlier (Sept 2006)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/241091342/sizes/l/

Clues”
- Late evening and nights (during the season) the fruits/tree attract plenty of 
bats, flying foxes etc

Bats/F Foxes seen here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/262725757/sizes/l/

- I think, there is a mention of it in the Bible

Such as Anjeer/Rumall or rumllam *Rumllikode' as local bus stop near 
Nuvem/Majorda



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[Goanet] Talking Photos: New GMC Subway

[JoeGoaUk]

Dear  Jen,

I was bit surprised when you reply back saying ‘the Verna subway is used and 
much appreciated by many’

My doubts were only cleared yesterday when I heard of one Subway at Verna 
Electronic city,  existence of which I was not aware of.

In my post, when I said Verna Subway, I meant to say Fr. Agnelo Verna subway.

As for New (Rs 7,18,28,955.94 ) GMC Subway, one may read the news item that 
appeared in NT recently (Quoted below),

As a matter of fact, only last night around 7.30, I saw the GMC subway in total 
darkness which indicates that the Subway was only open for a week or so ‘as a 
show piece’?

It seems our politicians were very much eager to get it officially inaugurated 
on 26th Jan 2009 (knowingly it was not fully completed yet)

Typical publicity stunt.





Quote:

Dear Joe,

The subway in Verna is used and much appreciated by many. I believe the one at 
GMC will be even more used.

regards,
Dr. Jen, PhD (UK)
Vasco-da-gama, Goa


===

From: JoeGoaUk 
Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photos:  New GMC Subway

Talking Photos: Inauguration of GMC subway

There are about 6 exit/entry points, including 2/3 wheelchair access etc
looks like the work done hurriedly, it was messy inside.
Monsoon has not started yet, water seen logged inside the drainage already

Ok, check this out..

Gate No. 1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3231517793/sizes/l/

Credit to Ministers etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3231518305/sizes/l/


Underground (with 26 shops- 13 each side,  not in use yet)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3232366492/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3232366786/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3232366180/sizes/l/

Now the question is,,

Will the public use it?

Or will it lie unused like that of Verna, Nuvem, Navelim Subways?
==

Quote:

Recent News item from NT:

PANAJI - The newly built subway transversing the NH-17 opposite the Goa Medical 
College and Hospital, Bambolim lies forlorn and unused, as people still cross 
the highway dangerously risking life and limb and defeating the very purpose of 
the subway.
The imposing 20-mt wide and 62-mt-long subway was inaugurated by the Speaker, 
Mr Pratapsing Rane on January 26 and has a provision for 24 commercial shops of 
9 sq mt each.
The structure�s awarded cost was Rs 7,18,28,955.94, work commenced on February 
11, 2007 and was completed on January 25, 2009, according to the GSIDC.
Along with the subway work, the work of the highway was also taken up and this 
has turned the situation all the more critical as with the improvement of the 
highway the vehicles now travel at greater speeds. But this does not seem to 
deter the people as even families with young kids can be seen literally dodging 
traffic to get to the other side.
The authorities have put up dividers but the work is still half-done and at 
present the hustle and bustle continues outside the GMC on the roads as the 
subway and its shops lie unused. �Just the other day a car hit a woman,� says a 
roadside vendor, Ms Jyothi (name changed).
Another problem is that there is no bus bay and the buses stop right on the 
road. People crowd around while on the other side some more try to cross to 
catch the bus. A commuter, Mr Raj (name changed) said that they have to run 
across as many times the buses see a large crowd and do not stop.
�The subway is far away and too dark. There is still nobody in there,� says 
another daily commuter, Ms Mary (name changed). She is emphatic, �I am not 
alone. Everybody does it.� Concedes the PWD engineer, Mr J Chimulkar, �The 
electricity connection has still not been received.�
A round of the subway reveals that some couples already are using it to get 
some private time out, as there are hardly any people. The shops too are still 
closed as they have not been tendered out. �They will be tendered out after the 
NHAI gives us the permission for the same,� says Mr Chimulkar, though he says 
that he does not anticipate any problem.
Some of the vendors say that they have received notices from the panchayat to 
move from there with one saying that they were supposed to have been shifted on 
February 4. �We were asked to move out,� says Ms Jyothi, but even after the 
date no one has come back to us. However, a shop owner, Mr John (name changed), 
occupying the same premise for the past 17 years says that he has not been 
approached at all. He says that on the contrary he has approached the 
authorities but nothing has been done. Among the shops there is also a 
horticulture gadda and another one under a government scheme.
Shopkeepers say that initially they would have problems but once everything is 
properly done things should be okay but want some things to be finalised as 
quickly as possible.
According to sources the 62-mt subway consists of three staircases and three 
ramps for entry and exit, each ramp is 7-mt wide and 26-mt long. The ramp is 
followed by a 12-mt pass

[Goanet] The Accidental Activist - the Absolutely Accidental Activist

[Venita Coelho]

The Accidental Activist - the Absolutely Accidental Activist

By Venita Coelho


There is more than one accidental activist in my house. The second one is just 
eighteen months old. My little daughter came to me when she was just nine 
months 
old. As a single mother, adopting had been a process fraught with tension. I 
had 
planned to spend lots of time bonding with my daughter. Instead of which we 
found 
ourselves plunged into activism. The Moira Action Committee had just been 
launched 
in response to the news that an objectionable building project was planned in 
our 
village. I strapped baby to my chest in a harness and set off to photograph the 
site. We scrambled around in dense thickets of trees under a blazing sun. Baby 
obligingly clung on.

The entire family helped make the awareness posters. The cats played with the 
tape 
and string, the dogs lay down on the paper at crucial moments, and the mongrel 
ate 
the tube of gum. Baby was in charge of retrieving the roll of sticky tape from 
the 
cats and took her role most seriously, running to fetch it whenever we asked.

A few days later I put baby in her stroller and off we went to document the 
garbage 
that littered various spots in Moira for the Awareness Evening. At the 
awareness 
evening baby played on the adjacent football field while fiery speakers 
denounced 
mega projects, and locals declared how much they loved their village.

>From there on her progress was rapid. A little while later she attended a 
>couple of 
Goa Bachao Abhiyaan meetings. All the talking bored her and on both occasions 
our 
departure was hasty. The second time it was also a little odiferous.

Then came the incident in which Aires Rodrigues and Prajal Sakhardande were 
beaten 
up. Baby sat in her new car seat and rode happily into town to attend the 
protest 
meet. I had also been assigned the task of video taping the event. So with baby 
on 
one hip and a camera in one hand I prowled Azaad Maidan, wondering when my back 
was 
going to give out. Luckily a little patch of sand occupied her attention and 
obliging strangers kept an eye on her.

Then came the Gram Sabha in which I was carted off by the police. I found 
myself 
becoming paranoid about Baby's safety. Threats had been made openly at the 
Sabha - 
'we'll see how you stay in this village' - and we fear the most for that which 
is 
most precious to us. For a long time whenever I left baby and her grandmother 
at 
home, my hands would be cold until I got back.

With the Regional Plan out, Baby's life became a little more hectic. In one day 
she 
went to Mapusa to get the maps scanned, travelled to Panjim to get them 
printed, 
stopped by at the GBA office to collect the power point that explained them, 
went 
back to collect the maps, and returned in time for a meeting of the Consumer 
Forum 
in Moira. Phew!

We organized a series of awareness meetings in wards across Moira. For the 
Povacao 
meeting, I had to wake up baby who promptly became cranky. I drove to the 
meeting 
with her asleep on my chest, and then stood in the hot sun for more than an 
hour 
with a baby on my hip explaining what the Regional Plan held for the villagers. 
I 
handed out offers of help and my number with the proviso 'if you call me while 
Baby 
is sleeping I shall kill you'.

Last week Baby went down with viral fever. I put her, hot and feverish, on my 
lap 
and began to type my column. From time to time a little voice said 'Mama?' and 
a 
hand reached out to hold my busy fingers. I stopped typing. The paper would 
have to 
do without their column this time.

A few days later Baby was feeling better, so off she went to see the Chief 
Minister. 
She was the youngest member of the GBA delegation that went to the Secretariat 
to 
ask him to revoke 16 and 16A.

Then the other morning I found a virulent mail on Moiranet. It accused me of 
being 
untrustworthy, of holding back information, of having a hidden agenda. 
Previously 
MAC and I had been accused of being 'lazy bums' of being 'elitist' and 
prejudiced 
and we'd been given a virtual 'kick in the backside'. I sat there staring at 
the 
vicious mail. I thought of how I had compromised my daughter's childhood, 
dragged to 
her around with me to meets, sacrificed time meant for her - for this. Was it 
worth 
it?

I guess the answer is yes, but sometimes it is the absolutely accidental 
activists 
that pay the heaviest price.   (ENDS)

==
The above article appeared in the February 3, 2009 edition of the Herald, Goa 

[Goanet] Goa news for February 10, 2009

[Goanet News Service]

Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa victim\'s email spoke of sex attack - guardian.co.uk
[Feb 7, 2009]  In an email sent two days before her death in
Goa, Keeling reveals to a Spanish friend that she went to a rave
party where she took drugs, including MDMA, ...
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*** Cricket, barons and Bollywood stars - its all happening in
Goa - Hindustan Times
[Feb 6, 2009]  Considering the monies at stake, Goa's famed
five star facility, the Fort Aguada resort, could well be called
Fort Knox for a day with millions of dollars ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=e4eab0af-001f-44cf-8ae9-0a18c7aa7014&ParentID=81081204-ab7a-4399-b867-db2a7b88a91e&SectionName=HomePage&cid=1301187454&ei=i8qQSe-3F4rKlQSCm62pCg&usg=AFQjCNFWUGsYebry1ALhKnAmC_sRH5eONQ

*** Rohit Shetty\'s film titled All the Best; shooting in Goa -
Business of Cinema
[9 hours ago]  MUMBAI: Director Rohit Shetty's film which has
been titled All the Best is all set to leave for Goa next month.
The first schedule of the film will be ...
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*** Jonathan Marques is buried in Goa - Reading Evening Post
[13 hours ago]  By Paul Robins Friends and family of Whitley
teen Jonathan Marques said their last goodbyes at a poignant
funeral service in Goa. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2044569_jonathan_marques_is_buried_in_goa&cid=1302644909&ei=i8qQSe-3F4rKlQSCm62pCg&usg=AFQjCNHVt6l4iR1Qpj2E_UTIhxSPy1L5Pg

*** Goa makes screening of new-born mandatory in private
hospitals - Indopia
[11 hours ago]  Panaji , Feb 9 All new born babies in private
hospitals in Goa would have to go through a mandatory screening
fordiseases failing which their birth ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://www.indopia.in/India-usa-uk-news/latest-news/498082/National/1/20/1&cid=0&ei=i8qQSe-3F4rKlQSCm62pCg&usg=AFQjCNE6zM5riwPSEcMa1FsAC4Wetb4h2Q

*** 24x7 water supply by 2012 in Goa - Times of India
[Feb 8, 2009]  PANAJI: Goa is the number one state in water
supply sector and with the effective maintenance and operation
of the system with continuation of the above ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/24x7_water_supply_by_2012_in_Goa/articleshow/4096288.cms&cid=0&ei=i8qQSe-3F4rKlQSCm62pCg&usg=AFQjCNGWH_xm91nrV3_GKA3GKqextirWWw

*** Goan stall features at Lisbon Trade Fair - Times of India
[Feb 8, 2009]  PANAJI: With its goals firmly in sight for 2009,
Goa made its first move into tapping new markets with Portugal.
A state delegation visited the Iberian ...
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*** Print Buyers Program at GOA - What They Think
[20 hours ago]  First on the GOA agenda is a double session,
half-day Print Buyers Workshop on Thursday, February 26, from
1:00 pm - 5:00 pm and aimed at print buyers, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://members.whattheythink.com/news/newslink.cfm?id=35456&cid=0&ei=i8qQSe-3F4rKlQSCm62pCg&usg=AFQjCNEhAWqhjOJSLLjixO-EBXUjbJWcJA

*** Marginal increase in Goa\'s electorate - Times of India
[19 minutes ago]  PANAJI: The total strength of the electorate
in Goa has marginally risen to 10,18068 after the Election
Office carried out the annual special summary ...
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*** Conmen strike offshore Casino in Goa, three held - Times of
India
[6 hours ago]  PANAJI: Three employees of an offshore casino in
Goa were arrested for conniving with conmen, who are believed to
have swindled the casino operators to the ...
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Re: [Goanet] North East

[Santosh Helekar]

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Nascy Caldeira  wrote:
>
> U have surely 'lost the plot' much earlier, and now
> I feel that U are loosing it, and that's for sure! 
> U know what I mean. I nor any goanettors, do not need to be
> a 'Scientist' or a neurosurgeon/ scientist to 
> 'read you', behind the lines.
> 

Hi Nasci,

Good to hear from you. Tell me, how many Goanetters misunderstand what is 
written on Goanet as well as you do?

BTW, do you know Jacob George who is linked with Australian corporates? Can you 
do me a favor and check whether he wears western shirt and pants? Otherwise, he 
might be a Hindu.

Cheers,

Santosh 

[Goanet] Watch Feb 22: Another Big Gathering at Campal

[SHRIKANT BARVE]

Watch Feb 22: Another Big Gathering at Campal
Sai Paaduka Darshan Jagruti Ratha Yatra 

Vice President of the committee Shri Shaikh Mustafa Kadar offered coconut at 
Shri Mahalaxmi Temple and Mrs. Vrushali Parsekar offered ‘oti’ to start a 
Jagruti Yatya (Spread the knowledge of Sai) This Yatra will cover whole of Goa 
in next 12 days. Schedule is as under: Pernem Jan 9, Bardesz Jan 10, Bicholim 
Jan 11, Sattari Jan 12, Ponda-Shiroda Jan 13, Savordem Jan 14, Sange-Quepem Jan 
15, Canacona Jan 16, Salcete Jan 17, Marmugao Jan 18 and Tisvadi Jan 19. 

All 42 Sai Mandir committee members held a meeting previous week at Hotel 
Delmon and formed a committee to celebrate Feb 22 Paduka Darshan sohala at 
Campal . 
President : Shri Anil Khaoute  Vice President Shri Shaikh Mustafa Kadar, 
Secretary : Pradip Palayekar, Treasurer: Vivek Parsekar. 
 
Sai Baba's Padukas to arrive in Goa on Feb 22
http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2009020218


Shrikant Vinayak Barve



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[Goanet] Attack on Women at an Indian Bar Intensifies a Clash of Cultures - NYTimes.com

[Ruby Goes]

Goanetters,

The whole world knows. Shame!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/09/world/asia/09india.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

rubygoes

[Goanet] Goanet highlights: Keni's story, wasting taxpayer's money, rethinking migration to Canada... (by Selma Cardozo)

[Goanet News]

Goanet highlights
By Selma Cardozo
se...@goanet.org

Goanet Reader brings us a short story by the late Chandrakant Keni.
"Hippy Girl" has been translated from its original Konkani form, for
which Keni was renowned,  into English by Augusto Pinto.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-February/173399.html

Aires Rodrigues, in an "Expensive Pil" poses the question, was it the
incompetence of Advocate General Subodh Kantak that prompted the Goa
Government to engage the services of Senior counsel and former
Advocate General Mr. Vijay B. Nadkarni at a whopping fee of Rs 75000/-
per hearing to defend the two parliamentary secretaries Mr. Nilkanth
Harlankar and Mr.Francisco Silveira in the High Court?
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-February/173423.html

For those planning on migrating to Canada, Roland Francis, tells us
why it might be a good idea to delay the landing, given the current
economic climate.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-February/173520.html

Marshall Mendonca gives us a snapshot of troubled spots in India,
including the North East and Kashmir.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-February/173543.html

The funeral video, The Last Journey of Jonathan Marques" presented by
Eddie Fernandes, pays tribute to a life taken too soon.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-February/173641.html

In an excellent article entitled "Goan Policemen," Valmiki Faleiro
writes poignantly about the courage and cowardice of Goan police.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-February/173585.html

Lino Dourado gives us his Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Dhiro Khorench Chalu Zat'leo?
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-February/173603.html

Goanet Reader previews the first chapter "Of Mangoes and Monsoons" by
Suresh Kanekar.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-February/173636.html

Goa Sudharop invites nomination to recognise and honour Goans.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-February/173643.html

Goanet Reader brings us an article by Anjali Monteiro and K P
Jayasankar, entitled, "Love in the time of Moral Policing." This is a
must-read for those of us grappling to understand the rise of the
moral brigade in India.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-February/173652.html

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cc's) to goa...@goanet.org You can also view the archives online at
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-February/

Re: [Goanet] Goan policemen: HERALD(Goa), Feb 8, 2009

[Valmiki Faleiro]

Dear Venantius,

Thank you for the kind words! The cop whose mind you portray with
rather colourful imagery below, who had the audacity to whack Auda
with his swagger stick, was a Superintendent of Police, no less. To
our collective shame, a Goan (and, if the detail matters, a Catholic.)
Who's remindful of the patron saints of Calangute and Curtorim, and
whose family name sounds like Rakshas, the devil!
Rgds, v



From: "Venantius Pinto" 
Subject: [Goanet] Goan policemen: HERALD(Goa), Feb 8, 2009



The retired (retarded) police officer who hit Auda Viega must have been a
serious English speaking asstard. The sheer balls to say that and that too
to a woman. What have Goan women and Goans done to deserve such knobheads. I
am sure that that are others of their ilk who are reading this. 


Keep it up Valmiki Faleiro.


venantius j pinto




From: "Valmiki Faleiro" 
Subject: [Goanet] Goan policemen: HERALD(Goa), Feb 8, 2009

GOAN POLICEMEN
By Valmiki Faleiro

[Goanet] 'Unborn baby girl' sings, pl listen to it

[JoeGoaUk]

'Unborn baby girl' sings, pl listen to it 


I need not mention much about it. 
It’s all there in the song.. Please listen to it (about 3 minutes) 

Thanks. 


Please listen to this cry 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbJOZV6mlv4 

  

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(The  middle one being the Queen) 

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Re: [Goanet] North East

[Nascy Caldeira]

dear Santosh,
U have surely 'lost the plot' much earlier, and now I feel that U are loosing 
it, and that's for sure! 
U know what I mean. I nor any goanettors, do not need to be a 'Scientist' or a 
neurosurgeon/ scientist to  'read you', behind the lines.
 
Keep writing like this and damage your own earlier good reputation!
 Regards!
 
Nascy Caldeira
Down Under.

--- On Mon, 9/2/09, Marshall Mendonza  wrote:
Subject: [Goanet] North East
To: "goanet" 
Received: Monday, 9 February, 2009, 9:24 AM

Santosh:Having provided fatality numbers in India from a source that I
consider to be multi-partisan

Response:
An institution linked to the RSS and headed by persons associated with the
RSS is considered multipartisan. Ha ha ha!! That was a good joke. Tell us
another one, just like the other one, tell us another one too ..
Cheers!!
Marshall



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Re: [Goanet] North East

[Santosh Helekar]

--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Marshall Mendonza  wrote:
>
>  An institution linked to the RSS and headed by persons
> associated with the
> RSS is considered multipartisan. Ha ha ha!! That was a good
> joke. Tell us
> another one, just like the other one, tell us another one
> too ..
>

The above claims that the Institute for Conflict Management and the persons 
associated with it are linked to the RSS are blatant falsehoods.

Even the tenuous earlier statement from a nameless blog that one of its 
principals, Dr. Ajai Sahni was a member of ABVP or Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi 
Parishad when he was a student is not supported by any other independent 
source. Please see the result of this Google search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Dr.+Ajai+Sahni%22+ABVP&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

Ironically, this search and another one for "Dr. Ajai Sahni" "Akhil Bharatiya 
Vidyarthi Parishad" yields the following link:
http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/sair/Archives/7_16.htm

Please note this quote on the Malegaon and Modasa bomb blasts in particular:

QUOTE
Hindu Jagran Manch behind the Malegaon and Modasa bomb blasts, claims 
Maharashtra Police: The Maharashtra Police on October 22 claimed that the Hindu 
Jagran Manch, an Indore (Madhya Pradesh)-based Hindu extremist group was 
responsible for the September 29 bomb blasts in Malegaon (Maharashtra) and 
Modasa (Gujarat). This extremist group reportedly has links with the Akhil 
Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP), the student wing of the Rashtriya 
Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS).

A day after, on October 23, the Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) arrested three 
persons on charges of being involved in the September 29 blast in Malegaon. 
They were identified as a Sadhvi Pragnya Singh Chandrapal Singh, Shiv Narayan 
Gopal Singh Kalsanghra, and Shyam Bhawarlal Sahu. While Pragnya Singh was 
arrested from Surat (Gujarat), the other two persons were arrested from 
unspecified places in Madhya Pradesh. Subsequently, the Nashik Chief Judicial 
Magistrate’s Court remanded the arrested to Police custody till November 3. The 
three accused reportedly had started the Rashtriya Jagran Manch, a sister 
organisation of the RSS. They have been booked under various sections of the 
Indian Explosives Act and the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act. The ATS 
chief Hemant Karkare said that the Forensic Sciences Laboratory (FSL) report 
had revealed "traces of RDX" in the September 29 blast in Malegaon. Indian 
Express ; The Hindu, October 23-24, 2008.
UNQUOTE

Now please tell me if any organization that was linked to ABVP or RSS would 
have posted the above news as a statement of fact on their website.

Other searches for "Dr. Ajai Sahni" "Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh" and 
"Institute for Conflict Management" "Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh" provide 
absolutely no official or unofficial connections between these entities.

The reliance on unnamed partisan blogs by the author of the above post to make 
wild, provocative and slanderous statements against organizations and people is 
very disturbing. 

Please check out the webpages of the blog which was used by him as a source of 
information in this forum to slander members of the Institute for Conflict 
Management:
http://sanghparivar.wordpress.com/

Can anybody tell me who its owner is? 

Who claims responsibility for the authenticity of the information displayed on 
it?

Why is this blog attacking everybody who speaks out against violence committed 
by Maoist extremists, is a businessman, or is in favor of capitalism?

The other disturbing fact about the above poster is the inability to understand 
that it is wrong to engage in guilt by association to slander somebody in a 
public forum. The height of such egregious behavior was a wife being deemed 
guilty by virtue of being associated with her husband who may or may not be 
connected with a political party that the poster is opposed to. The joke really 
is that the wife actually belongs to the Congress party. Please see this 
incredible quote from the said shady blog in terms of the scope of dishonesty 
that it displays:

QUOTE
Ms Rani Gargi Bloeria, is the wife of former Chief Secretary of Jammu and
Kashmir, Dr Sudhir S Bloeria. He is a soldier-turned-bureaucrat who served
as additional secretary (Kashmir Affairs) in the Union home ministry prior
to his appointment as enforcement director. In fact his wife represents him
in the organization. In 2005, Ms. Rani Gargi Bloeria elected as the Deputy
Mayor of Jammu Municipality along with BJP candidate Shri Kavinder Gupta as
the Mayor! It proves her proximity with Hindutva
forces
 even though she represent India's secularist party, Indian National Congress.
UNQUOTE

Despite all this, since the poster has claimed that he can take on anybody in a 
debate because of his knowledge of facts, I would like to ask him again to 
provide statistical facts regarding fatalities from 

[Goanet] India's second humanoid robot unveiled at Quark

[D'Souza, Avelino]

India's second humanoid robot unveiled at Quark

Panaji: India's second humanoid robot, which was formally unveiled
during Quark 2009, the ongoing three-day technical festival, at BITS
Pilani Goa campus on the first day of the festival on Saturday, was the
cynosure of all eyes. 

With Acyut 2 expected to get more 'facelift' and learn more 'tricks of
trade' in the next few months, a five-member team of the Centre for
Robotics Intelligent Systems, BITS Pilani, Rajasthan, is all geared to
participate in the RoboGames 2009 in San Francisco, U.S.

Acyut in Sanskrit means "one that never falls down," said Samay Kohli,
leader of the team, and exuded confidence that Acyut 2 would live up to
that image in the RoboGames ahead and romp home with a medal!

Mr. Kohli told The Hindu on Sunday that Acyut 2's predecessor, Acyut 1,
India's first humanoid robot, was showcased at the RoboGames 2008 in San
Francisco last year and it managed to get the sixth position among 30 to
32 countries that participate in the games.

He said the project cost for the Acyut 2 was worked out to Rs.24 lakh,
of which already Rs.12 lakh has been spent and they are confident that
the balance funds, needed for adding more functions, to make it more
automatic and give it more human-like structure, would be mobilised in
the near future.

The team of young engineers of the Robotics Centre has been gaining in
confidence, which can be seen from the fact that Acyut 2 is much bigger,
more professional in skills and much closer to a human being as compared
to Acyut 1.

More at:
http://www.hindu.com/2009/02/09/stories/2009020959921000.htm

~(^^)~

Avelino

[Goanet] Lion Roars

[Lionel Messias]

*Lion Roars*

*Civic Rights Don't Matter*

Does it always have to be so overwhelmigly against the real Goemkar?
Pandurang Madkaikar's defense of the stall owners (almost all non-Goans
including other illegal squatters of Church land) at Old Goa whose illegal
stalls were demolished by the government did not take into account the
hardship they cause to the taxpaying public using the public road built with
tax money. On one side of the road are these stalls, on the other a double
line of taxis and tourist vehicles. In the centre jaywalking tourists,
touts, hawkers and taxi drivers. It's a perennial problem, but as is
occurring now with dangerous finality, nobody takes into account what the
citizen taxpayer wants or, has a right to. It is always about the polluter's
or in this case, the transgressor's so-called rights. It is the righteous
indignation of these two that matters only in Goa nowadays. In this case
Madkaikar without an afterthought said the stalls owners have to be given
places where they can do business. In other words, if it means occupying a
kerb, public and or even private property, so be it. Perhaps this is why the
government and CCP do not have the political will to make the 18th June Road
a vehicle free road. There are vehicle free plazas like this across the
planet where the absence of traffic actually encourages shoppers and
sightseers. Can't be done because the traders would protest. And we don't'
won't to upset traders raking in the moolah, do we?

The fact that the road turning off the Panjim-Ponda highway was choked by
these stall owners, and the road from the Gandhi Circle leading to the Sao
Pedro ferry crossing to Divar are probably Goa's worst, does not matter. A
stretch in the former is almost entirely covered by sand through the year,
while the other where there are no potholes, has tourist buses, illegal
stalls, hawkers and jaywalking tourists. What is important in Goa, are the
'rights' of illegal squatters and stall owners. Isn't it ironical that the
word 'rights' needs to be used here? These for instance are easily the most
'righteously' protected car parks or in the case of some, public land
usurped for a selfish few to ply their trade. The coal van parked
perpendicular to the zone marked for parking instead of vertically, opposite
the Azad Maidan. A glass trader who for years has placed two huge wooden
frames outside his shop at St. Tome, so that he has free access to the
public road. The garage owner near the ICICI bank at Panjim who has the
audacity to place No Parking signs in the parking zone. The steel trader
next to the Dhume clinic in Panjim who uses instead a trolley cart to
preserve his own private car park. The stalls at the garden opposite the MES
who have usurped the pavement for themselves. But the prize goes to Soul Of
Asia which has even laid out a green carpet on the road and stationed a
guard to prevent cars from parking in front of the shop close to the
Education Department. If you have some of your own 'landmarks' to expose do
write in giving exact details and find them mentioned in this column next
week.


*Rewind*

Remember the Central Library your government is building for you at Patto
Plaza at a cost of Rs 15,95,00,629.70. The Plaza is the place that looks
like an Olympic standard steeplechase course with dangerous potholes, broken
concrete drain covers, drain covers that could break anytime with your
vehicle on top, vehicles and pedestrians fighting for a place on the road
because the pavements disappeared a long time ago. I didn't forget. I
promised to tell how conscientious successive governments have been about
propagating the arts and culture in Goa. Trust me, there's money to be made
in every nook and corner in Goa, under every stone. Figure it out for
yourself. I did the donkey's work, you do the thinking.

*Expenditure for the last 5 years:*
*
Kala Samman Scheme* - 2003-4 Rs 87.17 lakh, 2004-05 Rs 152.22 lakh, 2005-06
Rs 157.51 lakh, 2006-07 200.26 lakh, 2007-08 Rs 222.16 lakh

*Grants to cultural institutions *-2003-4 Rs 19,15,974, 2004-05 Rs
32,44,585, 2005-06 Rs 31,58,298, 2006-07 Rs 35,32,594, 2007-08 Rs 40,88,498.


*Scheme to provide special financial assistance for organizing cultural
events *– 2003-04 Rs 27,02,500, 2004-05 Rs 30,85,000, 2005-06 Rs 69,40,000,
2006-07 –Rs 1,91,06,400, 2007-08 Rs 1,54,35,179.

*Dhalo Fugadi Festival *-2003-04 Rs 3,00,000, 2004-05 Rs 4,21,344, 2005-06
Rs 6,35,000, 2006-07 Rs 58,945, 2007-08 Rs 6,63,752.

*Deepotsav festival *-2003-04 Rs 54,230, 2004-05 Rs 63,677, 2005-06 Rs
29,460.

*Mahila Sanskrutik Melava *– 2003-04 Rs 1,85,250, 2004-05 Rs 1,88,675.

*Kalakar Kritagnyata Nidhi *-2006-07 Rs 5,10,000, 2007-08 Rs 6,00,000.


*(Feedback lionroars@gmail.com, 9763718501)*
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[Goanet] Bafta & Grammy Awards 2009

[Olga Maciel]

In pictures: Bafta Awards 2009 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7878077.stm
 

In pictures: Grammy Awards 2009 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7878177.stm
 

In pictures: Australian fire damage 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7878128.stm
 
 
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[Goanet] In Everloving Memory of RALPH GONSALVES

[Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com]

One Year in the Lord's vineyard

in Everloving Memory of
  
RALPH  GONSALVES
 
Born: 11 July 1987   Died: 10 February 2008
 

 

  


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
With tearful eyes we watched you,and saw you pass away. 
Although we loved you dearly, we could not make you stay, 
Its lonesome here without you, We miss you so each day, 
Our lives arent the same since you went away. 
Each time we see your picture You seem to smile 
and say "Dont cry, Im in God's keeping, 
We'll meet again someday."
 
There will be a Eucharist celebration for the soul of our Ralph on Tuesday, 
10th February 2009, at Mae de Deus Church, Majorda, Goa, at 7:30 am followed by 
prayers and blessing of the grave.
 
A Tribute of Love from:
Dad: Roque
Mom: Joyce 
Brother: Russell 
Sister/Bro-in-law: Janessa/Nazarius 
& Niece: Narissa.

[Goanet] Goan policemen: HERALD(Goa), Feb 8, 2009

[Venantius Pinto]

 The retired (retarded) police officer who hit Auda Viega must have been a
serious English speaking asstard. The sheer balls to say that and that too
to a woman. What have Goan women and Goans done to deserve such knobheads. I
am sure that that are others of their ilk who are reading this. And if you
are then say something.

Man, we are something else, having been raised and raising our own in the
land of the 5,000 year old civilization. Such urbane cruelty. Such misogyny.

Besides that I have a faint feeling that Valmiki may just succeed in
bringing absolute pride to the Goan mind--Hindu and Christian. He
consistently manages to speak in such a way that forces negative forces to
look at the good that is being and has been wrought by those of their own
communities. It is hard to keep ignoring the good that comes from within
ones own communities--as depiected in Valmiki Faleiro's recent article of
the professionalism and humanism of Vishwanath Varik (VV) and Santoba Desai
(SK). Viswanatha (Lord(nath) of the Universe) and Santoba (-ba, btw is a
Marathi suffix meaning father, signifying reverence).

Keep it up Valmiki Faleiro.


venantius j pinto



> From: "Valmiki Faleiro" 
> Subject: [Goanet] Goan policemen: HERALD(Goa), Feb 8, 2009
>
> GOAN POLICEMEN
> By Valmiki Faleiro
>
> Of how Goan policemen at times were. Like Vishwanath Varik (VV)
> and Santoba Desai (SK): daring, yet tactful.
>
> Not another police firing, I must have barely thought, when VV, in a split,
> secured his
> holster and sprang vertically ? with a deafening shriek. His assailants
> scampered just as
> instantly. The crowds dispersed in a melee. No firing, no teargas, no
> lathis.
>
> I have seen officers like VV and SK restraining lathi-wielding cops
> from chasing fleeing crowds. SK once hit his men to disengage them from
> beating a
> protestor fallen to the ground in another turbulence in Margao.
>
> Sensing a major problem, SK rushed onstage. He tried convincing his
> ultimate boss, the
> Chief Minister?s husband that he could speak after the Opposition rally was
> over.
> Gurudatt began shouting back at SK in chaste Marathi. In full public view,
> SK suddenly
> lifted the diminutive CM?s hubby, carried him in his arms across the road
> to his chamber,
> deposited him into a chair, served chai and biscuits and engaged him in
> conversation,
> until the yonder rally was over.
>
> Not all Goan officers were hunky-dory. During the Meta Strips agitation,
> protestors were
> peacefully demonstrating outside the factory, oblivious of a Court order
> forbidding demos
> within some distance from the premises. When police enlightened them of the
> injunction,
> the protestors quietly began walking towards the non-ban line. Suddenly, a
> (now retired)
> senior officer whacked the buxom activist Auda Viegas from behind. ?Why are
> you hitting
> me,? Auda demanded, ?when I am walking away.?
>
> ?I know you are walking,? he replied, ?I would like to see you running.?
> Neeraj Thakur, ha,
> may as well be beatified! (ENDS.)
>
> The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at:
>
> http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=330
>
>

[Goanet] Patch of Humour - Monday-muse (9 Feb ’09)

[Pravin Sabnis]

MONDAY MUSE (9 February 2009)
 
A PATCH OF HUMOUR
 
A woman had a below-knee amputation as a result of having diabetes and smoking 
all of her life. When she was regaining consciousness in the Recovery Unit, her 
doctor-son smiled at her and said ‘Well mum, how does it feel to have one leg 
in the grave?’ She laughed out loud. Till the day she died, she told that story 
to her friends and each time, she laughed again. 
 
The son, Dr. Patch Adamsis an inspirational icon who has changed the despair of 
his patients with his cheerful clowning! Convinced of the powerful connection 
between environment and health, he employed many creative ways in using humour 
to bring hope and healing to his patients... including dressing up like a clown 
and decorating the patient’s bed with colourfull balloons. Along with friends, 
Patch founded a model "happy" hospital – the Gesundheit Institute – where the 
pain of patients is treated with a patch of humour. 


Humour helps because smiling and laughing triggers the secretions of 
morphine-like chemicals known as endorphins. Endorphins strengthen the immune 
system (responsible for fighting disease and enhancing recovery), reduce pain, 
and relax the body. Humour also works because it distracts people from their 
worries and pain and it restores perspective. Humour doesn’t alter the 
situation, but it helps you to cope with the pain. 
 
Surely, we can learn from the example of Dr. Patch Adams. Surely we can “be 
better” at facing every despair with a genuine display of care and humour.  
Surely we can spread cheer and hope by lifting the spirits of those who seem to 
have succumbed to the situation. And of course, we must start with our own 
selves by seeing the positives in every problem that seizes us!

To BE BETTER at taking every hindrance head-on
We must choose to sing the positive humour song…
 
- Pravin K. Sabnis
9 February 2009, Goa, India.
 
A life coach with a passion to connect people to their passion & potential, 
PRAVIN K. SABNIS employs creative competencies in theatre & trekking in his 
UNLEARNING UNLIMITED workshops conducted for leading corporate & other groups. 
The MONDAY MUSE series (based on JCI-India’s annual theme) was started on the 
first Monday of the year 2004.


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