Re: [Goanet] America - A Socialist Economy
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote: Marlon, The request was for numbers. I live in a world where numbers are everything, and sentiment is not worth a penny. In simple terms, it is much easier to understand a salesman who informs you that your investment will make 4% annually verses a salesman who tells you, I will make you lots of money. -- I think you missed out my comment that 70% of the world's venture capital was being invested in America. Technological innovation and its commercialization is what ultimately determines a nation's standard of living. --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote: WRT your two points: 1) The Chinese have and are marketing an electric car that is far more advanced than anything the US has to offer. This is just the beginning of inovation that will surely come out of China. Here is the link to the NPR program. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99286134 --- BYD is a good company, but the details on this car remain sketchy. Lithium ion has several issues: cost, safety, recharge speed and energy density . Except via fuzzy accounting or excessive govt. subsidies, I do not see how anyone can make these cars so cheap ($22K). Toyota, a company that is acknowledged to be the most efficient auto manufacturer in the world, loses money on every hybrid car its sells - and hybrids are far cheaper than plug in electrics. For now, they are a marketing halo product. Even GM's soon to be released and much acclaimed plug in electric car, the Volt, is a dubious proposition. GM is marketing this car as something that will save it. It will not. In the next 10 years, I believe the biggest bang for the buck in engine efficiency will come from the implementation of Homogeneous Charge Compression Ignition (HCCI) technology - and not from the more sexy hybrid or battery technology. Perhaps by then, battery technology will become more mainstream. As far as battery research is concerned, most of the cutting edge work is happening in America - not China. Ironically, the future may be in the use of a variation of the common lead acid battery known as the lead carbon battery. See: http://seekingalpha.com/article/115257-lead-carbon-a-game-changer-for-alternative-energy-storage --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote: 2) When you report false numbers in China, the Govt takes you outside and shoots you. When you report false numbers in the USSA, the govt gives you a bonus, prints money to pay the bonus and then passes legislation to tax 90% of the bonus. The final part of this process is for the USSA govt to appoint managers to run the companies that have fantasy profits/losses. In this regard, it feel that the Chinese method promotes far more fiscal responsibility than the USSA's 'democratic' method. In China, anything is the truth - so long as the government says it is so. Your understanding of China is rather naive. Regarding the much maligned issue of the AIG bonuses, the fact is that the original core team responsible for this mess, were fired, forced out or had quit a long time ago. The current staff that were supposed to get the bonuses were brought in at the government's request to clean up house and many of the executives were receiving no salaries. But yes, fundamentally, the US is wrong in letting these companies live. They should have been shut down in the first place. Marlon
Re: [Goanet] Kala Academy, programmes Mar 28-Apr 3, 2009
thanks a lot for the programs of kala Academy, Silvia
[Goanet] Kamat lands in trouble as SC stays ordinance, Silly excuses to protect Timblo....
This posting refers to two recent ones; by Marshall pointing us to the news-report on The Supreme Court staying the infamous Cidade Ordinance (also carried by Goanet in its news service), and to Arwin's short but angry outburst against the villains of the piece, the now infamous Timblos who own the hotel. Marshall erroneously reads victory in the stay order issued by our apex court. I do not feel this is warranted. While Claude states the obvious in his comments, namely, that following the Court order, the Timblos will have to demolish the illegal structures before April 30th or whatever, it is quite obvious, from the same report, that Timblo's lawyers are totally unfazed and are preparing themselves for a long haul in the courts. I think it should be made clear that it was never in doubt that The Supreme Court was going to sit back and allow itself to be shown disrespect. The writ of the law in Taleigao and its environs up to Dona Paula does not, thank God, run all the way to Delhi. In this respect though, my sympathies are more with Arwin. The Timblo's lawyers are paid the handsome fees they are, to do exactly as they have done admirably, namely, find loopholes to push through the Timblo writ and delay matters as long as possible. There is a shamelessness inherent in this ugly episode that is disgusting beyond belief, and in this regard, readers may want to revisit a very eloquent letter by Dr. Anil Desai from London, who asked the very same question, albeit more politely: Is there no hounour left in the Timblos? I think we have to take this to another level, one that will hit them where it hurts. The net belongs to the people thus far, and the people have truth on their side. We need some concerned Goans abroad, particularly the UK to make the Timblos' dishonesty and greed public, and lobby with chartered tours operating from the UK and Europe to boycott the Cidade de Goa hotel. Young Goans would do all of us a great service if they put this issue up on Facebook. If someone can get us telephone numbers, email IDs of senior managers at the Cidade de Goa, one could send them mails protesting their behaviour. Some will immediately say that this is a piecemeal solution, but it has its advantages. It helps build our solidarity and will allow us to remain optimistic, while, on the other hand, also showing the Timblos, that Goans are not as stupid as they think we are! Cheers, Hartman
[Goanet] Guns of Navarone
They are the MAGNIFICENT SEVEN of Salcete with their blazing guns in all directions like Digamber of Margao, Churchill of Navelim/Varca, Filipe Neri ofVelim/Chinchinim, Joaquim of Cuncolim/Chandor, Micky Pacheco of Benaulim/Majorda, Aleixo of Loutulim/Verna, and John Philip of Vasco. These Sashthikars have been terrorising all opposition members like Parrikar and his fellow Hindutvawaddis who are at present cowering with fear like scalded cats. In case one of these guns falls silent because he has been sent to New Delhi, still Digamber and co. can still rule the roost as one of the magificent seven was not of much use anyway. In any case let us all Sashthikars hope and pray that they do not meet the fate of the Guns of Navarone which ultimately fell silent due to the machinations of Parrikar, Modi and Advani.
Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Taking caste seriously: being anti-brahmin is not enough
Dear Adv.Jason Keith Fernanades, I read your article and found it interesting. I request you to avoid these words or provide meaning of the words in your future articles. Obfuscates ( obscure,confuse) edifice , succinctly ,critique, plethora ,upheaval and fitna. Your articles are meant for common man ( who understand little English) ie Dalits,Sudra,Muslims,Christians,Brahmins,Hindus etc. Please remember the only draw back with Sanskrit language today is that... only the Brahmins learn and understand it and sometimes use it to control or show superiority over other castes. All the best please keep the good work going. Allah Hafiz, Jaffar Ali Bin Mohamad Yusuf Farokhi --- Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ ---
Re: [Goanet] American (USA) 'socialism' (2) (Rens Metaal)
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 09:29:37AM -0700, Mario Goveia wrote: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:34:21 +0100 From: Patrice Riemens patr...@xs4all.nl Rens wrote: Bah, Bah en Bah, This is some sloppy writing. Mario observes: I agree. For you to introduce yourself to us with what sounds like passing gas, is beyond sloppy:-)) Rens wrote: Just one thing, Mario, and others: I had said I'd fwd (with permission) Rens' pvt mail to me commenting to the thread on Goanet (that's a public list, so I don't need perm to fwd) I had send to him. He belonged to the Dutch laughteres (though he's either in Beijing or in Jeddah ;-) Hence Rens needs no to introduce himself to this list. He's my guest as it where. This completely asides from the merits of Mario's answer (which I'll dully fwd), and which appear to me, at first (sloppy of course) sight to fall under the header 'another demented libertarian rant' ... ;-) But Cheers all the same, we're on IMFL! (speak of taxes, Karnataka is horrendous - with booze) patrizio the Dinosaurs! (real socialists, them!)
Re: [Goanet] American 'socialism' (Rens Metaal)
Patrice Riemens forwarded this message from Laurentius Metaal: This is some sloppy writing. First of all there is nothing wrong with a bit of socialism but in the US context that is not the case. Socialism US style has very often to do with lobbyists and is thus not socialist at all. With the exception of socialized medicine, in my humble opinion a basic human right, which should finally be taken serious there is at present only something at work which is called a desperate attempt to nationalize some parts of the system since it has been proven that the so called free market of lobbyists does not work and the tax dollars at least have not resulted in government bodies that do what they are supposed to do: regulate. Patrice, Rest assured that Obama (blessed be, his name) has made it crystal clear that he is going to turn the USSA health system upside down. Health reform was one of his main campaign promises. A few days ago, he said the health situation in the US is so deplorable that every minute of the day a US family has to file for bankruptcy because they can no longer afford to pay their medical bills. Imagine this, a person works his/her whole life to provide for the family and then the family is forced to sell all their assets to pay for one family members health care. Any progressive society will work to insure safety nets are available for its most vulnerable citizens. The society that puts profits before health, is a society that produces bankrupts. The real tragedy is when a society spends taxpayers money in foreign countries at the costs of debauching its currency, its infrastructure and the basic services it provides to its citizens. Mervyn1650Lobo __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Marshal of Communalism
I find it really amazing that Marshall can use such a broad brush to make a generic claim that Indian Americans support the BJP and furthermore support hindutva violence. It is becoming rather transparent that Marshall is rather paranoid about the larger world around him. Perhaps Marshall was an unfortunate victim of communalism which has resulted in him unwittingly emulating those he so despises. Marlon --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: It is indeed reassuring to hear from Marlon that all is hunky dory with the Indian Americans and that they do not love the BJP because of its ideology. I request him to carry this message to all the victims of hindutva violence especially in Gujarat, Orissa and Mangalore, while distributing his certificate.
Re: [Goanet] Nasci's western non-vegetarian food for thought
Hi all, I do not wish to respond to Santosh, since his 'change of subject title' in this email is malafides! Santosh has thus exposed himself as to how 'manipulative' and 'ugly debater' he has become; and has done so several times. Hah Ha! Santosh it seems, has yet to learn to consume and appreciate 'good Food', whether veg or non veg, primitive Indian or modern Indian or western traditional or sophisticated food! Is he like those many Indians who are primitively conservative?? Looks like; or else he would not be so absurd in his thoughts. Cheers! Nascy Caldeira --- On Thu, 26/3/09, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote: It is 'not for man to decide who should live and who should not'??? Then why 'medicate at all'; why medicine and surgeons, nurses et al?? What will Santosh do for a living? Mario G will not have survived up to now! Nasci, Can you explain your logic behind your above statement? Your answers would give us some good non-vegetarian food for thought, not prepared and consumed the lowly primitive Indian way. Cheers, Santosh --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote: By all means, do allow contraceptives but strictly disallow and prevent 'abortion' of known healthy babies. Food for Thought? Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now.
Re: [Goanet] Obsession with other people's religion
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: For once Santosh and Vijay Prashad are on the same wavelength. Marshall is giving you bogus information as usual. Vijay Prashad's wavelength is on the extreme left fringe of the invisible spectrum. I trust only those who are in the neutral center of broad daylight. But more importantly, Prashad spreads lies about others for political reasons. I would not trust anything he says or writes, knowing that he tried to shill for communist criminals who murdered a girl, and that he falsely claimed that her innocent father and brother were her murderers, instead. Please see his slanderous hearsay accusation below: http://www.counterpunch.org/prashad05232007.html Here is the relevant quote: Stories were blown out of context, and allegations flew around (sexual assaults, murders) that have since been shown to be false. The most sensational was the murder of a young woman, Tapasi Malik, who had been a leader in the Singur struggle against the land acquisition. The blogs and the capitalist media blamed this death on the CPM. The Central Bureau of Investigation is now of the view that she was killed by her father and brother. Sudhanva Deshpande and Vijay Prashad Now here are the real convicted murderers: GUILTY: CPM’s Suhrid Dutta, ally Debu Malik for killing Tapasi Express News Service Posted: Nov 12, 2008 at 0306 hrs http://www.expressindia.com/story_print.php?storyId=384632 Life term for Suhrid, Debu in Tapasi case Express News Service Posted: Nov 13, 2008 at 0331 hrs IST http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/life-term-for-suhrid-debu-in-tapasi-case/385174/ Given this evidence, which was provided earlier, I do not understand why anybody would copy and paste in this forum any garbage that Vijay Prashad writes. I would have been ashamed of myself if I did so. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Roman catholic Hindu
Respected editor, All religions came to this land.They were never brought nor invited. The local population followed certain traditions of living.The cultural traditions existed in this part of continent from the Himalayas to Rama-setu and from Assam to Sourashtra.The common language of these traditions was Sanskrit.The outsiders who came with their religion called the locals as Hindu as they could not pronounce Sindhu,(name of the river they crossed).Thus the traditional way of living was known as Hinduism.All the sanskrit literature,rich in Arts,Science,Economics and Philosophy was plundered by the outsiders.Much of the literature then had no Authors,as everything was written in the interest of better human living.The very pronounciations of Sanskrit words created healthy vibrations on human body.Take the example of single letter OUM. The existance of various age old temples in this part of world,proves the history.The language Sanskrit was made non-existant for selfish interest by the outsiders without any foresight losing the values of human living. With best regards, Damodar Bale.
[Goanet] Hindu Janajagruti Samiti backs Sri Ram Sena in Goa
Hindu Janajagruti Samiti backs Sri Ram Sena in Goa Iran before the Islamic Revolution was a nation envied by nations around the world, as a kingdom under the then Shah that prospered in leaps and bounds. But what do we see of Iran in around four decades of Islamic law run by their powerful culture protecting clerics? Is Iran even a shadow of its former self? No doubt, the wars with Saddam's Iraq took its toll of the entire region but the woes of Iran multiplied under the guise of protecting Islamic culture from the influence of western culture supported by the Shah. Will it ever reach the pinnacle that it once achieved under the Shah? I doubt it. Ram Sena in the South has evolved with a similar ideology of protecting India from the influence of western culture. Supported by the communal BJP and it's more action oriented saffron brigade, they have taken on themselves to be, not just the moral policemen, but also the judge, jury and the executioner, all in one, with scant respect for democracy or the basic fundamental rights of a democratic society. The attack on the girls in Mangalore has clearly exemplified their visceral hatred and distorted perceptions. With perverse delight, they got it all on tape, isn't that audacity at its highest? What sort of a society do we live in, where girls are pulled out, abused and bashed? It is even more disgusting to know that the law and the Government did nothing about it. It is really pathetic. Now the Ram Sena has set its sight on our beloved Goa, and a few loonies from our side of the fence, with similar feathers, have pledged their support. Mr. Ravi Naik has been aggressive in barring the cultural march of the Ram Sena into Goa, I hope and pray that he sticks to his word and does all he can to prevent these contaminated creatures from entering Goa. At the moment we have enough monkeys on our backs, whom we are fighting to tackle and contain, and could very well do without adding some more. History is history and one cannot change it even with our irrational thinking. The Mughals have had a long history in the sub continent of which Shivaji's was only a fraction of that time. No doubt he was a great Maratha fighter but certainly not bigger than the Mughals, and the facts will not change even if we think otherwise. But what has Shivaji got to do with Goa to change our history books? If the information is wrong or deceptive then a change is required but for the sake of a few loonies you can't change history. I don't think we Goans have to run for cover every time these loonies have an itch. I just can't understand why the Government bows down to these slimy characters and does not react to the mass protests all over Goa against mining and mega housing, RP2021 and SEZ, where a lot more, is at stake than mere history books. Is the Government concerned only of the selected few stray dogs that bark at the sight of their own shadow? And not at all interested in what most if not whole of Goa wants? We just cannot allow these sort of distorted ideologies breeding cultural and communal resentment in our beloved Goa. Beware Goans, we have heard a lot of promises from our politicians in the past, which have been waylaid most of the times, so lets all stay awake and not let Ram or any other Sena tell us what we should do with our lives or we will surely be what Iran is today. A chaotic nation. Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] URGENT PRAYERS REQUIRED for Kennedy D'Souza
Dear Members and Friends, This is an appeal for Prayers. You might be aware that Kennedy D'Souza (husband of Shanti, father of Kyle and son of Annette and Henry D'Souza) is in Mumbai for treatment. Kennedy underwent one operation to remove a tumour in the head about 2 weeks back and was recovering well, unfortunately his condition suddenly detoriated as he developed a swelling in the operated area and was admitted into the ICU with related complications. The 2nd tumour lies in a very delicate position and cannot be operated. He requires to have injections to shrink the tumour at a cost of approx. 3Million Kenyan Shillings - this is in addition to the operation that he has already undergone. We understand this morning that he is responding to treatment. We are therefore appealing for prayers in unison. Kindly say a Rosary and Prayer for Healing at 7.15 pm tonight (26/3/09) that Jesus, Mother Mary and the Holy Spirit may perform a miracle healing and avail the funds required for his treatment. HEALING PRAYER Jesus, may Your healthy blood circulate in Kennedy's ailing body, and may Your pure and healthy body transform his weak body, and may a healthy and vigorous life throb within Kennedy, if it truly Your holy will. Mary, Our Mother, we seek your protection and intercession with your Divine Son for Kennedy's miracle healing. O Holy Spirit, soul of our soul, life of our life, we adore You, worship You and bow down before You. Strengthen Kennedy in all his weakness, heal him of his tumours. We prayer all this through Jesus', Mary and the Holy Spirit ... AMEN Thank you and God Bless you all. For and on behalf of the family GWS RELIGIOUS SUB COMMITTEE
[Goanet] Calling for a class action suit against Fomentos asking for compensation
Denial of beach access to me for thirty years --- what price ? Now that the Supreme court has upheld the public trust doctrine, it is time to hit while the iron is hot. Consider --- lack of beach access for a whole generation has had serious detrimental effects on Taleigaon and the surroundings. For all you know, Babush might not have turned into a monster if he had got enough beach air in the summers! Consider the price of beach access at a minimal Rs. 10 K a year. For 50,000 Goans in the surroundings of Taleigaon, Dona Paula, Panjim a fact already acknowledged by the Supreme court, thirty years of denial of beach access amounts to Rs. 1500 crores. It is time to file a class action suit in the supreme court right now itself and get this money which is due to us from the Fomentos. Let us gather signatures and do this as soon as possible. Contact me offline for any help. Save Goa Campaigner
[Goanet] 7 Ways to Deal with Annoying People and Still Get Things Done - Stepcase Lifehack
Some advice to annoying Goanetters to the annoyed ones! How about that!!! Con http://www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/7-ways-to-deal-with-annoying-people-and-still-get-things-done.html
Re: [Goanet] Nirmala Sawant slated for NCP ticket for North
The Goa Su-Raj Party has taken note of the news reports that the NCP will be given the North Goa seat for the 15th. Lok Sabha Elections to be held on April 23, 2009. The Goa Su-Raj Party has also taken note that Ms. Nirmala Sawant has been shortlisted for the Ticket and that she will be formally joining the NCP on Guddi Padwa day. In the wake of the rumours that NCP Chief Pawar had Ms. Nirmala Sawant in mind for the North Goa seat after having had talks with her, we quizzed the Goa Chief of the NCP, Dr. Wilfred D'Souza to shed light on the rumour. His response was I don't Know - No body has told me There is a reason why Goa Su-Raj is interested, not, in that sense, to know who gets the NCP's ticket, but to know if Nirmala Sawant will get it. And the reason is linked to the visit that the undersigned paid to Nirmala Sawant at her residence at Marcela the day after (Sunday) the mammoth Congress meet at the Lohia Maidan was held with big-shorts of the Congress such as Mani Shankar Iyer, Priyaranjan Dasmunsi in attendance, just before the assembly by-elections were held in 2005. The Goa Su-Raj had noted with keen interest the conspicuous absence of the only lady ex Congress Minister on the dais Ms. Nirmala Sawant. The half-hour meet was cordial covering a lot of ground, especially about the strategy of mounting an effective campaign in the Cumbarjua Constituency basically to see the defeat of Pandurang Madkaikar who was slated for the Congress Ticket. As a Congress woman still, it was expected that she will fight Madkaikar tooth and nail but clandestinely, with Goa Su-Raj intending to be in the fray. Would she support our candidate? Would she suggest a suitable candidate? Would she join Goa Su-Raj and contest on its ticket? where many such questions asked. And her forthright answer to our offer was thus: Quote Mr. Lobo, I appreciate your offer. But I must decline it. IF AT ALL I LEAVE THE CONGRESS PARTY, I SHALL NOT JOIN ANY OTHER POLITICAL PARTY Unquote To that the undersigned has told her this: Quote Ms. Sawant, we respect your decision and we rather anticipated it. Our offer is made out to you by me in the capacity as the President of the Party and does not have the official sanction of the Party's Executive, especially when the Party is bound by the unwritten rule that Goa Su-Raj shall not give entry to any Ex-Mla. I am taking the chance in the understanding that I may be able to convince the Executive to make this one-time exception. I am not sure if I will succeed or not. Therefore, please do not throw this offer out of the window. Rather tie it to your 'SHENDO' [hair knot] so that it reminds you every time you shake your head Unquote Ms. Sawant had just laughed as a response. It so turned out that Nirmala Sawant resigned from the Congress and subsequently contested the by-elections against Pandurang Madkaikar as an 'Independent' with Goa Su-Raj supporting her through not fielding its candidate. The Goa Su-Raj Executive member was in the fore-front of being one of her main campaign managers. The unfortunate tally was: Madkaikar at 10016 against Nirmala's 9445, a mere shortfall of 571 votes. Therefore, in the wake of the above news reports about Nirmala's impending entry into the NCP, we at Goa Su-Raj believe that Nirmala must tread carefully. 'A WORD' of a serious person, a serious politician, is expected to be the 'WORD OF HONOUR', never to be discarded or forgotten for whatever reason at all. Nirmala has one option though. She can deny that anything like the above has ever transpired and we on our part shall not pursue the matter as this chapter has been closed. But hopefully, she will be able to ignore the ever louder growing knocks at the 'SHENDO' should she accept the NCP's offer. The Goa Su-RajParty wishes her well and would like to see her in Delhi, soon. It is a matter of fact that the Goa Su-Raj Executive has since completely closed the doors to Ex-MLAs with the passing of a BY-LAW banning the entry of Ex-MLAs into the Party. The understanding is that WE AT GOA SU-RAJ DO NOT NEED TO LEARN FROM EX MLAs HOW TO LOOT GOA. WE ARE QUITE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT OURSELVES floriano goasuraj
[Goanet] Supreme Court stays Ordinance
Hartman D'Souza: Marshall erroneously reads victory in the stay order issued by our apex court. I do not feel this is warranted. While Claude states the obvious in his comments, namely, that following the Court order, the Timblos will have to demolish the illegal structures before April 30th or whatever, it is quite obvious, from the same report, that Timblo's lawyers are totally unfazed and are preparing themselves for a long haul in the courts. Response: Hartman, I am well aware that the SC has only issued an ad interim injunction on the operation of the Ordinance. Being well versed with the functioning of courts, I can assure you that it is a major decision. Generally the HC and SC are averse to passing any ad interim injunctions against the government at the admission of appeal stage. They prefer a preliminary hearing of the case before passing any ad interim injunction orders. The very fact that the SC made adverse comments on the Goa govt is itself significant. It gives an indication of the direction of the thinking of the court. I know that this is a small victory and that there is a long haul ahead. The government and Ciadade have the money, resources and influence to get what they want. It is equally important for the people to bring pressure on all the 40 MLA's to sign their opposition to the Ordinance / Bill. In a struggle of this kind, we should celeberate even small victories as they act as morale boosters and bring out the fence sitters into the streets. Regards, Marshall
[Goanet] Cost of Member of Parliament
Politics is not a SERVICE anymore but a PROFESSION. An Important Issue! Salary Govt. Concessions for a Member of Parliament (MP) Monthly Salary: Rs. 12,000/- Expense for Constitution per month: Rs. 10,000/- Office expenditure per month: Rs. 14,000/- Traveling concession (Rs. 8 per km): Rs. 48,000/- (eg. For a visit from South India to Delhi return: 6000 km) Daily DA TA during parliament meets: Rs. 500/day Charge for 1 class (A/C) in train: Free (For any number of times) (All over India ) Charge for Business Class in flights: Free for 40 trips / year (With wife or P.A.) Rent for MP hostel at Delhi: Free. Electricity costs at home: Free up to 50,000 units. Local phone call charge: Free up to 1, 70,000 calls... TOTAL expense for a MP [having no qualification] per year: Rs.32, 00,000/- [i.e. 2.66 lakh/month] TOTAL expense for 5 years: Rs. 1, 60, 00,000/- For 534 MPs, the expense for 5 years: Rs. 8,54,40,00,000/- (Nearly 855 crores) AND THE PRIME MINISTER IS ASKING THE HIGHLY QUALIFIED, OUT PERFORMING CEOs TO CUT DOWN THEIR SALARIES.. This is how all our tax money is been swallowed and price hike on our regular commodities. And this is the present condition of our country: 855 crores could make their life livable!! Think of the great democracy we have… FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO ALL REAL CITIZENS OF INDIA . ARE YOU? I know hitting the Delete button is easier...but...try to press the Fwd button make people aware! Regards Solanki
Re: [Goanet] Nasci's western non-vegetarian food for thought
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I do not wish to respond to Santosh, since his 'change of subject title' in this email is malafides! . Is he like those many Indians who are primitively conservative?? Hi Nasci, Thanks for responding to me. Please do so again. Let us continue this nutritious (western non-vegetarian) discussion. Who are these many primitively conservative Indians? Are they vegetarians? Do they change the subject title of emails, which is malafides? Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] America - A Socialist Economy
The US is still the most dynamic economy in the world, given that it is still the most free market economy. The above statement only works when you provide the numbers. For example, the numbers that compares the dynamics of the economy of China v/s that of the USSA. With out the numbers, your contention is pure sentiment. - Marlon wrote: Two points: 1) A nation's long term standard of living is determined by technological innovation. Around 70% of the world's venture funding still goes to the US. In the two emerging fields of clean energy and bio tech, I expect an onslaught of innovation to be unleashed in the US in the next few years. 2) The Communist party of China cannot be considered to be a reliable source of statistics. Its over reliance on exports (specially to the US), its now imploding real estate bubble, its party controlled banking sector as well as its obvious political risks suggest to me that China has even worse problems ahead. All nations have their problems - the difference is that the US being an active democracy means that its problems are more easily identifiable and addressed. Marlon, The request was for numbers. I live in a world where numbers are everything, and sentiment is not worth a penny. In simple terms, it is much easier to understand a salesman who informs you that your investment will make 4% annually verses a salesman who tells you, I will make you lots of money. WRT your two points: 1) The Chinese have and are marketing an electric car that is far more advanced than anything the US has to offer. This is just the beginning of inovation that will surely come out of China. Here is the link to the NPR program. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99286134 2) When you report false numbers in China, the Govt takes you outside and shoots you. When you report false numbers in the USSA, the govt gives you a bonus, prints money to pay the bonus and then passes legislation to tax 90% of the bonus. The final part of this process is for the USSA govt to appoint managers to run the companies that have fantasy profits/losses. In this regard, it feel that the Chinese method promotes far more fiscal responsibility than the USSA's 'democratic' method. Mervyn1650Lobo __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/
Re: [Goanet] Roman catholic Hindu
Thanks for alightening but i find 3 letters in your word below:-) hAVE a nICE dAY Seb - Original Message - From: damodar vinayak bale dvb...@rediffmail.com ..no Authors,as everything was written in the interest of better human living. The very pronounciations of Sanskrit words created healthy vibrations on human body. Take the example of single letter OUM. The existance of various age old temples in this part of world,proves the history.The language Sanskrit was made non-existant for selfish interest by the outsiders without any foresight losing the values of human living. With best regards, Damodar Bale.
[Goanet] STT: Will you forgive him?
STT: Will you forgive him? - Ok, will you forgive your wife? What for? What she has done? - She cheated on you.. she slept with some one…, will your forgive her? I don’t believe you, I know she will never do this to me..we are together for 10 years with 2 kids… - What if it is true? Well, she is finished. End of our marriage. - Come on, it’s a mistake she feel guilty about it now, she wants to confess.. she loves you No means no, I will never forgive her - Ok, what about you? Did you remain faithful to your wife? I mean, you never slept with anybody during the 10 years? ‘Uloi re ogi kiteak asa?’ In this world, as a husband or wife, we often face so many problems. We are human beings so we are bound to make mistakes. Most mistakes are easily forgiven and forgotten but there are certain mistakes which are very hard to forget or forgive such as the one mentioned above. Often we men think, it’s Ok for we are men or some may even say, it’s OK as we have to live away from our wives for years and so it’s not a big deal if we sometimes pay Friday or Sunday visits to Srilankans/ Philippines or other nationalities onshore or at office or workplace etc How about the wives? They too live away from their husbands for years. It’s OK for them too? Women wants or their expectations are same as men. Infact, where we were in our teens, we understood from our seniors that women need more than men. Marriage is built on love, sharing, trust, loyalty, sacrifices, understanding, forgiveness etc There is no one superior or inferior in the marriage. If she betrays him, then he has every reasons to be angry, upset, feel rejected, frustrated etc Similarly, if he has done any act of betrayal then she too has the very same reasons (nothing less) to be angry, upset etc. She too has a right to take extreme decisions An advice: If you have gone wrong somewhere (perhaps due to temptation) and this being your one off blunder and you regret it immediately after and vow never to do it again.. Take my peace of advice: Never confess it to him (Husband) or her (Wife) because you never know how he/she might take it or what it may end up with. Because some betrayals have not forgiveness. Something like this such as LOVE, MARRIAGE, TRUST, BETRAYAL, FORGIVENESS etc is beautifully brought up by Joywin in his new Film ‘FAMILY With Annie Quardros, Ulhas Tari, Jane, Kids Kish, Kerensky, Antonette de Maina, Comedian Marcus, Comedian Selvy etc. Rs.150 VCD. It’s a family film not to be missed, a must to every husband and wife Check this out - a trailer.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9LJwBuUBok VCD cover: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3384196043/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Happy Gudi Padwa new years years to come to all
Happy Gudi Padwa A happy new year to all and also a happy years to come to all of you With regards -- Sanjay Barve
[Goanet] Goa news for March 27, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Naval chopper crashes off Goa - Times of India http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Naval-chopper-crashes-off-Goa/articleshow/4316748.cmscid=1320301091ei=-g_MSfidM6CikQSb5_ibDQusg=AFQjCNFZ8KwPLMgihF6BN25rSrJtrrplzg *** Bullfighting is now a legal sport in Goa - Business Standard http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/bullfighting-is-nowlegal-sport-in-goa/57298/oncid=1319947336ei=-g_MSfidM6CikQSb5_ibDQusg=AFQjCNGknluODDXBqi0k-mJq-ADCoKvuZg *** Parents protest arbitrary fee hikes - Times of India http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Parents-protest-arbitrary-fee-hikes/articleshow/4320801.cmscid=1321101279ei=-g_MSfidM6CikQSb5_ibDQusg=AFQjCNHJn-ZFpRSD9oRGSn4c9zt3NkzXZA *** German whistle-blower\'s complaint not registered by Goa police - Sify ff led to the arrest of a Polish hit man this month, complained of harassment and threats by local politicians, the Goa police have failed to register his complaint, an official of the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14875524cid=1320848687ei=-g_MSfidM6CikQSb5_ibDQusg=AFQjCNF6nXpIo5CJLb-n-G03svQK4AHDSA *** Goan to be sworn in as HC judge - Herald Publications rald Publications, IndiaA Goan lawyer along with two others will be elevated as additional judges of the Bombay High Court onThursday morning. President Pratibha Patil issued orders for the appointments of Filomeno Lopo Sales Rosario Dos Reis, Rajesh Govind Ketkar and Ravi ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=19214cid=2cid=0ei=-g_MSfidM6CikQSb5_ibDQusg=AFQjCNG_3WSxoG1uEDFAwJzRflncP_Q54g *** Virbhadra folk dance reflects martial arts tradition - Times of India mes of India, IndiaGoa is a land where Lord Shiva is worshipped in varied forms. Virbhadrais one of the attendants of Lord Shiva who is regarded in Goa as one of the sons of Parvati and Lord Shiva. Although there is no temple or a shrine dedicated to Virbhadra in Goa, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Virbhadra-folk-dance-reflects-martial-arts-tradition/articleshow/4320800.cmscid=0ei=-g_MSfidM6CikQSb5_ibDQusg=AFQjCNGPcX93RpejAbwW1BQ-cg2KqbttiQ *** Goa gets EC nod to term Princess state disaster - Times of India mes of India, IndiaPANAJI: In a significant development the Election Commission of India approved the Goa governments plea to declare the River Princess a state disaster, but in view of the prevailing code of conduct, warned against any ostentatious publicity to the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa-gets-EC-nod-to-term-Princess-state-disaster/articleshow/4316746.cmscid=0ei=-g_MSfidM6CikQSb5_ibDQusg=AFQjCNGO5Tepx0W7loJBNPdfTtNAOH4VUA *** Qatar Airways to fly to Goa, Amritsar - istockAnalyst.com (press release) 0. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/3151069cid=0ei=-g_MSfidM6CikQSb5_ibDQusg=AFQjCNE-iNgZ_kU6BPrdCnLHaKtnAcfT7Q *** Goa to crack down on beachwear \'hurting religious sentiments\' - Times of India mes of India, IndiaPANAJI: The Goa government will crack down on the sale of clothes, particularly beachwear, carrying images of Hindu deities and quotations of scriptures on them. The action follows a representation made to the North Goa collector by the Hindu ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa-to-ban-religious-beachwear/articleshow/4319708.cmscid=1320906198ei=-g_MSfidM6CikQSb5_ibDQusg=AFQjCNHg3Kwar4sO7Kr-y5nt6Yjf1n7llA *** Retirement treat: Cycling around Goa and the world - Times of India mes of India, IndiaPANAJI: They're discovering Goa at every bend and turn, drawing attention wherever they go. Friends, six of them from Europe, have hopped onto mountain bikes and are riding around the world. Right now they are in Goa. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Retirement-treat-Cycling-around-Goa-and-the-world/articleshow/4320798.cmscid=0ei=-g_MSfidM6CikQSb5_ibDQusg=AFQjCNHKpDqwE1Wvgv1zqpts2C7uzHgbrQ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Nasci's western non-vegetarian food for thought
Dear Santosh, What is wrong with you? Why are you asking questions - the answers of which I already gave you yesterday? I repeat: MalaFides: Origin - Fontainhas (Mala). There the first email (Fides) changed the title to femail (Fidelia). Hence the words Malafides. Inappropriate use follows: Mala fides, Tuka Urrack Primitively Conservative: Origin - Ilhas (Tiswadi). From the original founder of this territory who was our cousin (Primo) and his uncle (Tio) both of whom were known to be the first Goveian (Goan) fiscal conservatives. This Primo and Tio company were later known in English as PrimiTive. After that (somewhere when I was a teenager so should be in the early 18th century) all conservatives who practiced their fiscality (fiscal + rascality) were known as Primitive Conservatives. good afternoon from here jc Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I do not wish to respond to Santosh, since his 'change of subject title' in this email is malafides! Is he like those many Indians who are primitively conservative?? = Santosh wrote: Hi Nasci, Thanks for responding to me. Please do so again. Let us continue this nutritious (western non-vegetarian) discussion. Who are these many primitively conservative Indians? Are they vegetarians? Do they change the subject title of emails, which is malafides?
Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Taking caste seriously: being
Why do you use two spellings in two cases? Are these errors? Zafar and Jaffar Farooqui (quite unusual) and Forokhi. At least you are using the standard spelling for Hafiz, although it is spelt in different ways. Btw that a nice gesture—Allah Hafiz. May you too be protected. While your point is laudable, Jason is using pretty straight English. People can make that effort. Certain things may only be said in certain ways. People who do not understand fitna could ask their Muslim friends. venantius j pinto From: zafar ali farooqui fz...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Taking caste seriously: being anti-brahmin is not enough (del) I request you to avoid these words or provide meaning of the words in your future articles. Obfuscates ( obscure,confuse) edifice , succinctly ,critique, plethora ,upheaval and fitna. Your articles are meant for common man ( who understand little English) ie Dalits,Sudra,Muslims,Christians,Brahmins,Hindus etc. Allah Hafiz, Jaffar Ali Bin Mohamad Yusuf Farokhi
Re: [Goanet] Nasci's western non-vegetarian food for thought
Santosh, Laughter is good for all; vegans and non vegans! Specially for those many Indians who may be primitively conservative! These 'many' could be either, based on their degree of enlightenment and immediate environment. I am 'laughing'. I now feel as though I 'will live and live it up' past a century of life. Cheers! Nascy. --- On Thu, 26/3/09, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I do not wish to respond to Santosh, since his 'change of subject title' in this email is malafides! . Is he like those many Indians who are primitively conservative?? Hi Nasci, Thanks for responding to me. Please do so again. Let us continue this nutritious (western non-vegetarian) discussion. Who are these many primitively conservative Indians? Are they vegetarians? Do they change the subject title of emails, which is malafides? Cheers, Santosh The new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7: Faster, Safer, Easier.
[Goanet] LINK: The Better India
The Better India is an attempt to bring out the happy stories, the unsung heroes/ines... http://www.thebetterindia.com/ -- FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 http://twitter.com/fn On Facebook: http://www.new.facebook.com/people/Frederick-Noronha/502514643
[Goanet] Planes, choppers in the skies
The media here had a story about a chopper crash. Was it the usual (and uncritically-met) spindoctoring which allowed the reports to focus on the crew of three rescued safely and no civilian damage angles? As usual, reports of this kind end with the statement that a court of inquiry has been ordered. Of course, we never learn of what emerges from this! See the reports here: http://tinyurl.com/dku3cw Sometime ago, using the Right to Information Act, help from a friend in Kerala, and the support of the edition of a national magazine, one managed to dig-up some shocking information about the Sea Harriers that the Indian Navy purchased from the UK. Put briefly (quoting the emerging article): The aircrafts have not been in a single war, but in the past two decades, 16 out of 31 Harriers have crashed. http://www.livemint.com/2007/11/26013747/The-Indian-Navy8217s-deadly.html Something serious going on here! FN -- FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 http://twitter.com/fn On Facebook: http://www.new.facebook.com/people/Frederick-Noronha/502514643 All the sugar, Twice the caffeine - Ad slogan for Jolt Cola
[Goanet] shubhescha
Navya Varshachi shubhescha to all members of GN forum Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
Re: [Goanet] America - A Socialist Economy
marlon menezes wrote: I think you missed out my comment that 70% of the world's venture capital was being invested in America. Technological innovation and its commercialization is what ultimately determines a nation's standard of living. For a moment there, I was under the impression that you were taking the road most people here do i.e. when the numbers are hard to find, they take the easy way and find them in the most convenient blog. The blog writers haven earlier taken the easier way and just manufactured the numbers. BYD is a good company, but the details on this car remain sketchy. Lithium ion has several issues: cost, safety, recharge speed and energy density . Except via fuzzy accounting or excessive govt. subsidies, I do not see how anyone can make these cars so cheap ($22K). Toyota, a company that is acknowledged to be the most efficient auto manufacturer in the world, loses money on every hybrid car its sells - and hybrids are far cheaper than plug in electrics. I am sure you are aware that the Japanese Govt has been financing the research for the hybrid cars of Toyota and Nissan for the past ten years. Japan wants to clean up the air in its cities. The US car manufacturers, on the other hand, put all their money and efforts into lobbying the US govt NOT to improve emission standards. For that reason alone, people want the US car manufacturers to pay the price. They are voting with their wallets, buying hybrids instead of gas guzzlers. As far as battery research is concerned, most of the cutting edge work is happening in America - not China. Ironically, the future may be in the use of a variation of the common lead acid battery known as the lead carbon battery. Just this morning, Bloomberg had a slew of reports about the Chinese Govt introducing subsidies to promote alternative energy production. Here are the numbers, the Chinese Govt will provide a subsidy of US$2.93 per watt for solar projects with a generation capacity of at least 50 kilowatts. Note the price is per watt. This is a heck of a lot of money. All the Chinese solar stocks prices jumped (went thru the roof?) today. If you are interested, the ones that trade in N. America are: Suntech Power Holdings, STP Yingli Green Energy, YGE JA Solar Holdings, JASO LDK Solar Co, LDK In China, anything is the truth - so long as the government says it is so. Your understanding of China is rather naive. My understanding of China is limited to the prospects of making money :-) I think every American does the same, being happy as long as China is providing cheap goods and buying the US debt. Regarding the much maligned issue of the AIG bonuses, the fact is that the original core team responsible for this mess, were fired, forced out or had quit a long time ago. The current staff that were supposed to get the bonuses were brought in at the government's request to clean up house and many of the executives were receiving no salaries. But yes, fundamentally, the US is wrong in letting these companies live. They should have been shut down in the first place. In addition, this morning, Hussein bin Obama said on his Internet Town Hall meet that the US auto industry must be preserved, not symbolically but so that people could have jobs. Socialism at its best. Mervyn1650Lobo __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
[Goanet] STATE GOVT EXPOSED(ALLOTMENT OF LAND TO SEZ'S) - WELL DONE 'CAG', LET THE CULPRITS BE JAILED ASAP. GIVE BACK GOAS LAND TO GOANS!!!
STATE GOVT EXPOSED(ALLOTMENT OF LAND TO SEZ'S) - WELL DONE 'CAG', LET THE CULPRITS BE JAILED ASAP. GIVE BACK GOA WHAT RIGHTFULLY BELONGS TO GOANS!!! DRIVE AWAY THE CORRUPT INDUSTRIES PANJIM, MARCH 25 Blatant irregularities of the State government in the allotment of land to seven special economic zones (SEZs) in three industrial estates have been thoroughly exposed by the findings of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India (CAG). The CAG report tabled in the Goa assembly on Tuesday has listed out numerous irregularities indulged in by Goa Industrial Development Corporation (GIDC) in allotting 38,40,886 square metres of land to seven SEZs - in its five industrial estates. Allotment made for SEZs not only lacked transparency but GIDC sacrificed land acquired for small and medium scale industries under the Industrial Growth Center (IGC) Scheme for the advantage of SEZ companies, the report revealed. Allotment to SEZs was made without publicizing, that too before the State government formulated its SEZ policy,nbsp ; says the CAG. Verna industrial estate (VIE) was established under the IGC scheme of government of India for which financial assistance of Rs 10 crore was received. But shockingly, area to the extend of 24.05 lakh square metres allotted for five companies for SEZs in Verna formed part of the total area of 65.81 lakh square metres acquired for IGC. UNDUE CONCESSION: Making a special concession for SEZ allottees, the GIDC also removed a clause from the lease deed that enables revision of the annual lease rent (ALR) as and when premium rates are revised . This was an undue concession to SEZ allottees remarked the CAG report. LOWER LAND RATES: Sins committed by GIDC do not end here. Bending over backwards to satisfy the SEZ promoters, the GIDC allotted land at a lower rate. Revision of premium rate at Verna phase IV, effected only after major chunk was allotted at lower rate , tentatively fixed, resulted in a loss of Rs 36.89 crores. GIDC had in March 2004 acquired 35.88 lakh square metres of land in Verna and Loutolim villages for expansion of phase IV of Verna industrial estate. It commenced allotment in September 2005 in the areas even before the layout plan was prepared and sub-divisions completed at tentatively fixed (September 2005) premium rate of Rs 600 per square metre .The rate was subsequently revised in August 2006 to Rs 750 per square metre but allotted 24.6 lakh at Rs 600 per square metre and only 15,365 square metres for Rs 750, CAG said. Based on the board's decision, GIDC allotted land admeasuring 16.73 lakh square metres to four companies at premium rate of Rs 600 - namely K Raheja Corp, Paradigm Logistics, Inox Mercantile and Planetview, for setting up SEZ s. EXTRA ALLOTTMENT: The GIDC is also guilty of excess allotment of land to the four SEZ companies that were allotted land in phase IV of VIE. Inclusion of area to the extent of 5.28 lakh square metres initially in the deeds over and above the allotted area was irregular. The unauthorized inclusion of additional land was an undue favour to the companies which helped them to obtain SEZ approval , the CAG noted. KERI: Based on requests (March 2006), GIDC allotted 12.32 lakh square metres in March/April 2006 in Keri, to Meditab Specialities - a subsidiary of Ciplas at premium rate of Rs 80 per square metre while 2.04 lakh square metres land was allotted in Sancoale at a lease premium of Rs 270 per square metre. Meditab was allotted land at a time when GIDC was in the process of implementing a pharma park by itself on land available at Keri and a consultant had already been appointed for the purpose. NO PERSPECTIVE PLAN: GIDC had been pursuing industrial development on an adhoc basis with no perspective plan. The auditors found that GIDC had no system to assess the requirement in accordance with any specific project of its own or local demand of industries. It deviated from its established role of acquiring and allotting land directly to the entrepreneur by allotting land to developers for further allotments by them. GIDC, CAG found, allotted land before completing basic development activities, paving the way for faxing arbitrary rate of lease premium. It also revealed that allotments were made without transparent selection procedures. Print Send This Article To Your Friend http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=19217cid=10
[Goanet] songs with mog
Hi guys I hope you will like this pls have fun mog to all from jjandson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xemrFC_1tIM NostalgiaTurely Goan Restaurant part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCROwu1Nz54 Nostalgia part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w764bVATVks Goan New Konkani love song 2009 -Sodchona http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw0DqTz4HPw sergio play guitar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_zHafTvXmU Dhavon Yho - Edwin-- Goan Konkani Love Song 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypyg027XBeM save goa save konkani
