Re: [Goanet] Is Indian Humility Virtuous or Despicable?

2009-06-12 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo

Most if not all attacks have been opportunistic.  

As I said before, the law-and-order situation has gone down hill in the last 10 
years or so, ever since Labour came into power in the state, and the civil 
libertarians have had the upper hand against police actions. The last Police 
Commissioner appointee had a "softly, softly" approach to criminal damage 
(personal attacks, graffiti et al), which IMHO has is the root cause of these 
issues. The current Police Commissioner is no better, and calls from the public 
for a tougher approach seem to fall on deaf ears.

Attacks against Indians are but a fraction of attacks other people have 
suffered.  We already have had two "good samaritans" dead, who went to the aid 
of those being attacked.

To quote Andrew Bolt, a columnist in Herald Sun:

" 
That so many Indian students are bashed and robbed can be largely explained by 
the kind of part-time jobs they tend to take, being hard workers - the late 
shifts in 7-Eleven stores, taxis and petrol stations, for instance. 
 
Imagine how safe these students are when they then go home alone late at night, 
often walking or taking near-deserted trains back to the tough suburbs where 
the cheap rents are. How safe would your own children be? 
 
But some attacks aren’t so easily explained away. Some, you might say, are 
“racist” in that Indians are famously peaceable - less likely to break the law 
and less likely to fight back when attacked by those who do. To thieves and 
thugs, they’re soft targets. That said, other attacks, as Victoria Police now 
belatedly admit, are indeed no-mucking-about racist. But to whose shame are 
these racists, really? 
 
True, video footage of the infamous pack-attack on Sourabh Sharma on the 
Werribee train shows thugs of various ethnicities, including, it seems, the 
Anglo kind. 
 
But what police and many journalists refuse to confirm or even discuss is what 
victims and their spokesmen repeatedly say - that many of their attackers are 
Africans, Islanders and, less often, Asians who are newcomers themselves, 
beneficiaries of our eagerness to seem kind and tolerant. 
 
Hear it from Macquarie University student Mukul Khanna, called back home by his 
worried parents: “A lot of my Pakistani friends have left the place after being 
brutally attacked and robbed . . . Interestingly, the attackers are mostly not 
locals and are themselves people of foreign origin.” 
 
Or read it in an edited statement that Tanveer X, bashed in January, gave to 
Beyond India Monthly: “When I turned on Anderson Rd I saw four black men . . . 
One of them came running behind us and hit me with the stick. Then they started 
hitting my wife . . . I want action against those African guys.” 
 
And have it confirmed in this Herald Sun report from last year, when Indian 
taxi drivers protested at having been the victims of most armed robberies on 
cabbies: “This year between May 8 and August 2 there were 12 reported robberies 
on taxi drivers in Flemington, Moonee Ponds and Ascot Vale. “Police will not 
officially acknowledge any particular ethnic group is a target, or that any 
other group is carrying out the crimes. But in every case the victims told 
police their attackers were African . . .” And in all but two their victims 
were Indians. 
 
Note yet again the reluctance of police to admit they have trouble with African 
gangs—or gangs of any particular ethnicity. "
So there you are.

Part of the problem is that some Indian students (and my wife sees them every 
day on her journey to work by tram - we live near LaTrobe University) are 
arrogant, put their feet up on the seat opposite, talk loudly among themselves 
in Hindi (just as one would in the din of Mumbai and Delhi), ogle women, and 
generally act obnoxious - not all, but a few.  Besides that, the body odour and 
the stale smell of cooking on clothes.  And it is these few that give all other 
Indians a bad name. 

Gabriel.


- Original Message 
From: Mario Goveia 
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Friday, 12 June, 2009 12:30:06 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Is Indian Humility Virtuous or Despicable?


Shame on Australia for being
racist and allowing this to happen.

Shame, shame, shame all around.

Mario responds:

Hey, Roland,

Calm down, man!  With all this shame-shame-poppy-shame business, and perhaps a 
couple of straw men and a few gross generalities thrown in for good measure, 
are you, perhaps, also displaying the same lack of confidence you are decrying?

I'm not even sure what version of Indian humility you are talking about when 
you cite some Indian 16-year-old.

I wonder what our intrepid Aussie Goanetters, Ruby Goes and Gabriel de 
Figueredo, think about all these accusations by Roland that "Australia" - the 
entire country, no less - is "racist" and "allowing" Indian students to be 
attacked???  


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[Goanet] Disseminating ignorance

2009-06-12 Thread Tomazinho
To.

 

The Editor

Gomantak Times, St. Inez, Goa.

 

Sir,

 

Please publish the below given letter in 'Letters to the Editor' section.

Thanks

 

Tomazinho Cardozo

 

Disseminating ignorance

Mr. S. M. Borges's letter - Disseminating ignorance - published on your daily 
dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is frustration only 
because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as a columnist with the 
issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets excited immediately if any one 
states that DKA was formed to fight the injustice meted to Konkani in Roman 
script. It is because he is wearing glasses through which he can see only 
Konkani in Devnagori script and nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani 
in Roman script should be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script 
in the Official Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all 
his might because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script 
as soon as possible. 

 

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels that 
everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious to me and 
hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering questions of Mr. 
Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

 

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind of Mr. 
Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to one, face to 
face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media - printed as well 
as electronic - and the people. If that happens then only we shall be in a 
position to state who is disseminating ignorance, false information and 
manipulated history.

 

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges to organize this debate and if he 
is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the same. If 
agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone 9822170102. 

 

Tomazinho Cardozo

Candolim


[Goanet] Daily Grook #435

2009-06-12 Thread Francis Rodrigues



DAILY GROOK #435
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BATTER SHATTER
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by Francis Rodrigues



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batsman out
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[Goanet] Three new postings on Benualim blog

2009-06-12 Thread sebastian Rodrigues

 
Hello!
Three new postings are uploaded on Benaulim blog:
1. BANAULEKARS PROTEST 
http://bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/2009/06/banaulekars-protest.html
 
2. OF LEGENDS, LAWYERS & LADRAOS 
http://bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/2009/06/of-legends-lawyers-ladraos.html
 
3. LIES OF THE SARPANCH NAILED 
http://bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/2009/06/lies-of-sarpanch-nailed.html
 
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Re: [Goanet] Comment about Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of Portuguese origin

2009-06-12 Thread Sapna Shahani
Jason, It wasn't my intention at all to provoke. By the way, I was raised
Catholic (I am Anglo-Indian). What gives me the impression that Inquisition
information is not known to visitors from outside Goa are my interactions
with people I have met over 20 years of living in Goa on and off.
Please don't confuse me with right-wing Hindus whom I've been given to
understand have used this history to their advantage. I have no affinity for
those types, in fact, quite the opposite.
I was just struck when I learned that the Inquisition in Goa was possibly
one of the worst in the world (according to the Rough Guide). This was years
after I had started visiting Goa and after numerous visits to Old Goa. So it
made me wonder why I never heard about that before, and I simply wanted to
hear perspectives on this subject from this list.
I'm sorry if I touched some nerves, I didn't realize it was such a sensitive
issue, and I thought this list had intellectuals who could respectfully
debate with one another.
I hope future posters would reply a little more gently, so as not to scare
away first-time posters like myself who may be non-Goan, but have
significant respect for the land, and are trying to contribute to the
economy in a positive way. In particular Jason, I thought your comment that
'my lack of awareness about contemporary politics is just another one of my
blind spots' was out of line. I didnt think we knew each other well enough
for you to know any other blind spots that I may have.
Best,
Sapna.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Jason Keith Fernandes <
jason.k.fernan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Sapna,
>
> From the sounds of your email it sounds like you are provoking us.
>
> What gives you the impression that the cruelties that once took place in
> the vicinity of the Basilica are not known? How did you come to this
> information? Clearly it is not that difficult to ascertain as you make it
> out to be?
>
> If at all, there is more (mis)information about the Inquisition than there
> is information, so perhaps we would do well to investigate that.
>
> But I am curious, what exactly do you hope to achieve from broadcasting
> this information to the visitors to the site? Perhaps you know that the
> 'information' about the Inquisition, is very often used to place
> contemporary (and native) Catholics in an uncomfortable position. Is this
> the intent of your inquiry? If not, then perhaps the lack of awareness about
> contemporary politics is just another one of your blind spots.
>
> My apologies for the terseness of the message, the bite is not intended to
> offend, merely to make a point.
>
> sincerely,
>
> J
>
>
>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:43:19 +0530
>> From: Sapna Shahani 
>> Subject: [Goanet] Comment about Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of
>>Portuguese origin
>> To: goa...@goanet.org
>> Message-ID:
>><8c1ee09c0906120913j92f1c80wab680693362d3...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> As a non-Goan who's lived here on and off for 20 years, I'm very curious
>> about Goa's history with the Inquisition.
>> How is it that the gory history of Goa's past remains virtually unknown by
>> outsiders or tourists? The Basilica of Bom Jesus is a beautiful building
>> but
>> I find it odd that visitors don't know what cruelties once took place in
>> the
>> vicinity of the Basilica.
>>
>> Would love to hear the thoughts of people on this list...
>>
>> Best,
>> Sapna.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
> -
> Read my thoughts at www.dervishnotes.blogspot.com
> 
> For a successful revolution it is not enough that there is discontent. What
> is required is a profound and thorough conviction of the justice, necessity
> and importance of political and social rights.
> (B R Ambedkar)
>


[Goanet] No nuke secrets with missing Kaiga scientist: officials (Lead) Text

2009-06-12 Thread Goanet News
No nuke secrets with missing Kaiga scientist: officials (Lead)  Text

Kaiga (Karnataka)/Bangalore, June 12 (IANS) Lokanath Mahalingam, the
senior scientific officer of the state-run Kaiga atomic power plant in
coastal Karnataka who is missing since Monday, had no access to
sensitive documents or nuclear secrets, top officials said Friday.

"There is no sensitive and strategic information with him," G.
Nageshwara Rao, director of operations of Nuclear Power Corporation of
India that operates atomic powers plants in the country, told
reporters at Kaiga, 500 km from Bangalore.

"Mahalingam was in charge of training the new recruits," Rao added.

V.V. Sanath Kumar, director of the Kaiga power plant, asserted there
was no fear of Mahalingam being kidnapped for possessing nuclear
secrets.

Mahalingam, a 47-year-old mechanical engineering graduate, was working
in the simulation training centre at the power plant.

Mahalingam, who hails from Chennai, left home in the Kaiga township
Monday morning for a walk. There has been no trace of him since then.
His wife Vinayakar Sundari lodged the missing-person complaint with
police Monday evening.

Rao flew down from Mumbai, the headquarters of NPC, to address the
press along with Sanath Kumar in the wake of speculation in a section
of the media that Mahalingam was a top nuclear scientist with
knowledge of nuclear secrets because of which he might have been
kidnapped.

The Uttara Kannada district police, the Central Industrial Security
Force (CISF) which guards the Kaiga power plant, and forest department
officials have been searching for Mahalingam since Tuesday.

"We're yet to get any information about Mahalingam. The search is on,"
Uttara Kannada district superintendent of police Raman Gupta said.

Kaiga township is surrounded by the 1,000-acre Mallapur forest, where
police have been carrying on their search operation.

Due to seasonal heavy rains, police personnel are finding it hard to
negotiate a swelling Kali river in the Western Ghats, adjoining the
township.

The police had already searched in the 100-acre Kaiga township but
failed to trace Mahalingam


[Goanet] CHARGESHEETED NCP MINISTER MUST BE SUSPENDED TOO

2009-06-12 Thread Aires Rodrigues
The disciplinary action committee of the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP)
has rightly suspended from its primary membership its Member of Parliament
Mr.  Padamsinh Patil who is accused of involvement in a double murder case.

NCP leader and Union minister Mr. Praful Patel has stated that the party
would like to keep a distance from the accused MP Mr. Patil as he faces the
legal process and that if he proves his innocence there will be no problem
in taking him back.

Mr. Praful Patel has also stated that the NCP was following a convention in
public life that a person who is facing investigations in a criminal case
should not be associated with the party.

The NCP should follow the same yardstick and invoke this convention against
NCP Minister in Goa, Mr. Micky Pacheco who was last month  chargesheeted by
the Goa Police for having assaulted a Goa Government Junior Electrical
Engineer, Mr. Kapil Natekar. This NCP Minister, Mr. Micky Pacheco, who has a
history of assaulting people should face the criminal trial as an Aam Aadmi.

Propriety demands that for any trial to be free and fair, no accused should
continue as a Minister as he would manipulate the police and make a mockery
of the legal system which would be subversive to the rule of law.

Aires Rodrigues
Ribandar


[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (13Jun09)

2009-06-12 Thread alexyz fernandes
***  Goa's 7 Wonders  ***

"I've 2 Wonders:

1) I always WONDER if Goa will have CLEAN Politicians.

2) ...No (longer) WONDER why all this GARBAGE"


To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit:   www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by  www.goasudharop.org







[Goanet] Migrant Labourers and Outsiders

2009-06-12 Thread Bernado Colaco

While living in the UK on three occasions bharatis were loud mouthing Goa. I am 
not to sure why? I have heard that Rajasthan is a very nice place full of 
palaces. Why do these foreign/Indian combination not live there. Or does the 
Indian husband feel inferior about his culture? Or maybe the Indian husband is 
afraid of dakus!
 
Best
 
BC
 
 
Any special reason why they love Goa so much, and not any other part of India? 

As, according to you, Goans are Indians, and by that default Goa is India, why 
not love/settle say in Belgaum, or for that matter, Sawantwadi, or even, 
according to some, the much superior Mumbai? 

What makes Goans so lovable? Aren't other Indians as lovable? 

Cheers,

Gabriel





[Goanet] Comments about Bom Basilica

2009-06-12 Thread Bernado Colaco

First off all your stay in Goa is illegal. Second the In quistion issue has 
been trashed on this forum. In fact could you tell us about Hatti Mere SATI.

Best

BC


As a non-Goan who's lived here on and off for 20 years, I'm very curious
about Goa's history with the Inquisition.
How is it that the gory history of Goa's past remains virtually unknown by
outsiders or tourists? The Basilica of Bom Jesus is a beautiful building but
I find it odd that visitors don't know what cruelties once took place in the
vicinity of the Basilica.

Would love to hear the thoughts of people on this list...

Best,
Sapna.





Re: [Goanet] Comment about Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of Portuguese origin

2009-06-12 Thread Jason Keith Fernandes
Dear Sapna,

>From the sounds of your email it sounds like you are provoking us.

What gives you the impression that the cruelties that once took place in the
vicinity of the Basilica are not known? How did you come to this
information? Clearly it is not that difficult to ascertain as you make it
out to be?

If at all, there is more (mis)information about the Inquisition than there
is information, so perhaps we would do well to investigate that.

But I am curious, what exactly do you hope to achieve from broadcasting this
information to the visitors to the site? Perhaps you know that the
'information' about the Inquisition, is very often used to place
contemporary (and native) Catholics in an uncomfortable position. Is this
the intent of your inquiry? If not, then perhaps the lack of awareness about
contemporary politics is just another one of your blind spots.

My apologies for the terseness of the message, the bite is not intended to
offend, merely to make a point.

sincerely,

J



> --
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:43:19 +0530
> From: Sapna Shahani 
> Subject: [Goanet] Comment about Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of
>Portuguese origin
> To: goa...@goanet.org
> Message-ID:
><8c1ee09c0906120913j92f1c80wab680693362d3...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> As a non-Goan who's lived here on and off for 20 years, I'm very curious
> about Goa's history with the Inquisition.
> How is it that the gory history of Goa's past remains virtually unknown by
> outsiders or tourists? The Basilica of Bom Jesus is a beautiful building
> but
> I find it odd that visitors don't know what cruelties once took place in
> the
> vicinity of the Basilica.
>
> Would love to hear the thoughts of people on this list...
>
> Best,
> Sapna.
>
>
> --
>
>
-
Read my thoughts at www.dervishnotes.blogspot.com

For a successful revolution it is not enough that there is discontent. What
is required is a profound and thorough conviction of the justice, necessity
and importance of political and social rights.
(B R Ambedkar)


Re: [Goanet] Comment about Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of Portuguese origin

2009-06-12 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
Dear Sapna,

You make a very good point. I agree with you absolutely.

In fact, I believe that very few people know about the Gory past of
our entire subcontinent.

I suggest that we all should contribute to this exercise.

Some of our contributions may include:

a: The Most Unholy Inquisition - wsr to the targeting of the Jews
b: The atrocities of Sati. As a woman, I suggest you research and
write about this crime which killed (God alone knows how many)
millions of mothers, grandmothers, daughters, sisters and cousins;
many of these  burnt-alive widows .were still young children when
married to these old chaps.
c: The Caste system and the systematic (life and generation to
generation) enslavement of the Sudras and lower castes.
d: The brutal killing of female foetuses
e: Dowry burnings

(I believe my learned friend Valmiki Faleiro is writing about How  the
Aryans came and swiped land from the natives of the subcontinent).

Like you Sapna, I too believe  that visitors to India must know the
truth, the ENTIRE TRUTH and nothing but the Truth about the place and
people we often describe as 'peace-loving and peaceful'.

BTW: as one who believes that he is a Harijan, I have done my bit by
writing about the horribly discriminating Apartheid Caste System of
India which, quite ironically, surprised the firangi Portuguese who by
the way abolished (by decree) the Sati burnings in Goa and (what is
now) Mumbai.

There is another female oriented topic which might interest you, and
that is the devadasi system of enslavement.

In closing, please do not take the above to be my routine response to
the the saffron haters of the Catholic church - who pose these topics
on different discussion lists AND get very offended when Sati, Caste
and devadasi topics are raised.

I do not believe that you are one of them.

You apear to be a genuine person. So I say to you: If today is the day
to wash clothes, and the washing machines are not being used, Let us
wash ALL the dirty laundry - in public.

good wishes

jc



2009/6/12 Sapna Shahani 

As a non-Goan who's lived here on and off for 20 years, I'm very
curious about Goa's history with the Inquisition.
How is it that the gory history of Goa's past remains virtually
unknown by outsiders or tourists?

The Basilica of Bom Jesus is a beautiful building but I find it odd
that visitors don't know what cruelties once took place in the
vicinity of the Basilica.

Would love to hear the thoughts of people on this list...


[Goanet] Comment about Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of Portuguese origin

2009-06-12 Thread Joao Barros-Pereira
*Comment about Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of Portuguese origin*
*Fri Jun 12 09:13:19 PDT 2009*

As a non-Goan who's lived here on and off for 20 years, I'm very
curiousabout Goa's history with the Inquisition.

How is it that the gory history of Goa's past remains virtually unknown by
outsiders or tourists?
 Joao writes: A sign of a civilized and mature people, in my view, is to
let bygones be bygones. We have a recorded history of the Inquisition but it
does not mean it has to have a place of pride on tourism billboards.
  People of various communities have, at one time or the other, been
cruel to other weaker communities, as well as to people living within their
own community. What is important is not to accuse and hold responsible the
people who are alive today for crimes committed a long time ago. It will
only open a can of worms, and make today a hell while we're fighting over
the past! Life, after all, is to be lived in the present  A wise man
once said, an eye for and eye makes the whole world blind. Most of us have
only one eye, let's not lose the other, too.

The Basilica of Bom Jesus is a beautiful building butI find it odd that
visitors don't know what cruelties once took place in thevicinity of the
Basilica.

Would love to hear the thoughts of people on this list...Best,Sapna.


[Goanet] Tunch mhoji Vokol, tunch mhoji bhail

2009-06-12 Thread JoeGoaUk
Tunch Mhoji Vokol, tunch mhoji bhail
 
Oi, hanvenui sacrament zoddla
Hanvenui Altara mukar bhas dilea
Hanvenui Deva samkara koblat kelia
 
Bhurghea ponnavelo mog to mhozo.
Oi, tukach havem vinchun kaddla
Tujech sovem hanvem sonskar zoddla
Sukant ani dukant tuka visvaxi raunk bhas dilea
Tuch mhojem Sukh, tumch mhojem dhuk
Tunch nhozo uzvadd, tunch mhozo kallok
 
Soglem mhojen aslem-naslem soddun ailam
Tum gorib munn zanno asonui,
Hanv tuje xim goribkaen ravonk ailam
Tuka ani fokot tukach chittkun ravonk ailam
 
Naka maka her sounsarik jivit
Naka maka her cheddvam-bhailo or pozollponnam
Naka maka her sounsarik vostu
Naka maka computer, intternett, lepttop
Naka maka Ttivi, Reddio, viddio, ddividdi, mobail, empitri
Naka maka Mottari, mottor saikoli, 
Naka maka flettam, bongle, er kanddixon
Naka maka battam-bhemsam
Naka maka dduddu-Bhangar
Naka maka konnacheoch dhenngio
 
Tukach sasnak visvaxi ravtolom
Tujich sodanch seva kortolom
Tujeach Marg-dhorxonnar choltolom
Tuzoch pattlav kortolom
Tukach chittkun rautolom
 
Oi Jezu, Tunch mhoji vokol, Tumch mhoji bhail
 
Fr. Joe


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[Goanet] LionRoars

2009-06-12 Thread Lionel Messias
Real Issues

*No-win situation*

I have often said ‘if you are one of those who buys into the Goa-is-at-peace
bullshit, read our rival. Its news makes you think Goa is a world of Nirvana
all the way. If you are troubled (a.k.a concerned) by the Goa around you,
read the Herald. Here are some more real time news events to ponder on. In
fact these have hardly been written about in the past, at least not in the
way it should have made you sit up and your hair stand up. There is this
little known egg nest called the Goa State Scheduled Caste and Other
Backward Classes Finance and Development Corporation Ltd whose accounts were
last finalized in fiscal 2000-01. I can’t tell, but you can bet your last
buck that your government has an equally long-winded answer as to why it
happened. Perhaps part of the reasons are that for seven consecutive years
up to 2007-08 it pumped in equity of Rs 5 lakh, 31.67 lakh, 5 lakh, 5 lakh,
5 lakh, 5 lakh, and 5 lakh respectively. The one with the less rambling
name, Goa State Scheduled Tribes Finance and Development Corporation Ltd was
last audited in 2006-07. But, what you really need to do is walk into these
offices and see how hard(ly) your government babus work, i.e.’ if you can
get past the small detail of the empty tables and chairs that greet you when
you walk in.


*Estate Management *

Call it a new Special Economic Zone in the making, but the GTDC’s intention
(hopefully it won’t fructify or, that the many NGOs and activists will not
wait until the eleventh hour to protest) to create ‘better’ infrastructure
by inviting ‘Expression of Interest’ from the private industry, hints at
just that. Only this might be packaged to look like some friendly
neighbourhood infrastructure instead. You know, that usual bull that it will
create jobs for Goans (those that didn’t go abroad, but are in queue), da,
da, da. But it already gives one a sense of déjà vu. So, let me give you a
corresponding case of memory retrieval. Quote from the Audit Report of the
Comptroller & Auditor General of India: ‘The Goa Industrial Corporation has
been pursuing industrial development on an ad-hoc basis. It did not prepare
a perspective plan defining both short term and long term plans for
development of industrial infrastructure ….’ The CAG also said ‘The
Corporation had not resorted to open invitation for Expression of Interest
(EOI) from interested entrepreneurs …;” Allotments were made without any
kind of selection process, instead a ‘direct approach system’ was in vogue.
Need I say more?


*Ad-hocism is the buzzword*

How ad-hoc? Trust me, off the cuff won’t even begin to describe the next
land scam being cooked up. In the lingua franca of GTDC, it will lease out
land to create new infrastructure under the Public Private Partnership (PPP)
model. This could happen next month. In the dialect it used; it also said
the government does not want to restrict itself to any infrastructure in
particular. Ergo, it wants to let private industry submit bids and only
afterwards, will GTDC decide what is best suited for the peoples’ land it
unfortunately has become the ruler of. Now, if that does not smack of some
intensely sneaky scheming, I don’t know what does.


*Worst case scenario*

Scenario 1. Based on this open invitation to virtually pick your booty and
enjoy, there is no gainsaying that the worst kind or, for that matter even
corporates with a brand equity (what’s the difference really?) will not
cordon off used tracts of land, and levy an entry fee for whatever
entertainment is on offer. And if you have been reading the Herald2day
lately, Goans had stopped picnicking in Colva because of the in-your-face
domestic tourists who arrive there by the busloads and appropriate the
beach. Goans stopped going to Baga nearly a decade ago. They have been
prevented from entering the beach at Taleigao and, in fact there are already
a few 5-star hotels that did become obstacles for locals wanting to picnic
on the beaches where they exist. Scenario 2. Should Goa allow these powerful
don’t-give-a-fig-for-the- locals businessmen to take over prime beach land,
most of it coming under the CRZ? Especially, when GTDC has itself admitted
with amazing candour that it does not know what it wants from the PPA. And,
that means it does not know what the Goan tourism industry needs. Remember,
the realtors who booked prime land at the Rajiv Gandhi IT Park in Dona
Paula?


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[Goanet] Goa Sudharop: Goan cooking demo, San Jose, California

2009-06-12 Thread George Pinto

Goa Sudharop is pleased to host the Goan cooking demo by Chef Extraordinaire 
Tony Moniz at the annual DIA DE PORTUGAL this Saturday, June 13, from 
11-11:30am in San Jose (Kelley Park). All invited.

Event details at http://www.diadeportugalca.org/festival/festival.html

Saturday, June 13th – Dia de Portugal Festival
10am to 6:30pm, History San Jose, Kelley Park, San Jose, CA
www.diadeportugalca.org

Thank you.

Goa Sudharop
www.goasudharop.org



Re: [Goanet] Torches in the Fields at Night

2009-06-12 Thread Alfred de Tavares

Santosh...Selma...pls help me remember the lines...

 

Was it not my namesake, Tenysson, somewhere in the 'Idylls of the King'

who moans: Like the swine that see only the blade of grass before (beneath?)

their eyes

 

Chachaaa...


 

 
> From: valley_fale...@hotmail.com
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:19:57 +0530
> Subject: [Goanet] Torches in the Fields at Night
> 
> 
> Yes, Jim I fully endorse on what you have said. We are not bothered or 
> concerned about our relatives and friends and yet spend our time saving frogs 
>  where has human values reached ? What are we doing to the numerous 
> suicides and murders taking place in our Goa ??? what action do we plan for 
> our forests being destroyed in Goa ???
> 
> 
> 
> FROGS ARE ONLY SEASONAL , BUT THE CONSTRUCTION LOBBY HAS BEEN FILLING 
> CULTIVABLE FIELDS AND PRECIOUS TREES ARE BEING CUT RIGHT THROUGH THE YEAR FOR 
> CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY . Is this infrastructure development ??? Who is making 
> money and destroying the beauty of Goa  

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[Goanet] India' Child workers

2009-06-12 Thread Olga Maciel


In pictures: India's child workers 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8096944.stm
 

Week in pictures: 6-12 June 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8096887.stm
 
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[Goanet] Dhoram, Sojea & Jaanu Maanu - 3 new VCDs

2009-06-12 Thread JoeGoaUk
Dhoram, Sojea & Jaanu Maanu - 3 new VCDs
 
3 VCDs bought today..
 
VCD No. 250
DHORAM by M Luis
With Querobina, Com Philip, M Luis, Boavida, Teddy de Majorda, Manuel, 
Milagres, Leena, Alex Dourado etc
Rs.150  May/2009
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3620278400/
 
VCD No. 251
SOJEA by Sammy
With  Sammy Fernandes, Com. Joana, Com Michael, Com Selvy, Com. Ben 
Evangelisto, Com. Jesus, Com Humbert, Annie Quadros, Anita FErnandes,Ambika 
Dias, Amanda Dias, Rafael Rodrigues, Anif Fernandes, Jane, Newton D’ Souza, 
Jacinto Gracias etc
Rs. 200 (2 CDs) May/2009
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3620278922/
 
VCD No. 252
JAANU MAANU by Jackie
WithCom Ambe, Com Selvy, Com. Janet, Com Sally and Jack-E
Rs.150 June/2009 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3620278642/
 


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[Goanet] Goa news for June 13, 2009

2009-06-12 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** India reports two more swine flu cases, total 14 - Sify
ear-old woman who arrived from New York on June 5 has ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?a=jglpdXejjea&title=India_reports_two_more_swine_flu_cases_total_14&tag=topnews&?vsv=TopHP1&cid=1258647342&ei=-uQyStabDYqwNajkvYcI&usg=AFQjCNHET6rtM8KPpcOCmJZnFQ2x5bkU6g

*** Injury-time penalty sees Goa through - Hindu
&
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/12/stories/2009061256292000.htm&cid=1259303998&ei=-uQyStabDYqwNajkvYcI&usg=AFQjCNGALXJOag9k8e0mNhrYq9blVIpjwA

*** London Passenger Tests Positive For H1N1 Flu In Goa -
Bernama
&
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsworld.php?id=417600&cid=1259278787&ei=-uQyStabDYqwNajkvYcI&usg=AFQjCNHXYMDNnejoPxhvE08AjiKVQYFC-g

*** Sesa Goa buys Dempo\'s mining - Wall Street Journal
argest acquisition in India's iron ore industry, Sesa Goa, a
subsidiary of London-listed Vedanta Resources, today acquired
Goa-based Dempo group's mining and maritime businesses for Rs
17.5 billion in an all-cash deal. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124477538725409047.html?mod=googlenews_wsj&cid=1259165391&ei=-uQyStabDYqwNajkvYcI&usg=AFQjCNGQtlw5j0wPVPXgQ2HmGga6W-W_fQ

*** Goa, India, boasts quiet neatness and tropical vegetation -
Hunterdon Review
605) in Old Goa, then glance at the ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://www.recordernewspapers.com/articles/2009/06/12/entertainment/doc4a30e1bf6c176599952262.txt&cid=1259796883&ei=-uQyStabDYqwNajkvYcI&usg=AFQjCNFYqGBG29s8VesqULyqIznfEHuNEQ

*** Sensex Ends Down 1.1% - Wall Street Journal
which is recovering from India's biggest corporate fraud - lost
0.5% to 80.45 rupees, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124480887081709817.html&cid=1259603493&ei=-uQyStabDYqwNajkvYcI&usg=AFQjCNHvaIHGNa2s6mtnKqPU06T_vvb2Vw

*** Goa Can Restrict Sale of Land to Foreigners -
Daijiworld.com
&
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=61127&n_tit=Goa+Can+Restrict+Sale+of+Land+to+Foreigners&cid=1259636054&ei=-uQyStabDYqwNajkvYcI&usg=AFQjCNHCyGHUwl93Z-YLtxKJr_K7cncW9A

*** Challenge for young brains in Goa - Times of India
ound development definitely ain't kidstuff. And if you want to
test your ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Challenge-for-young-brains-in-Goa/articleshow/4646608.cms&cid=0&ei=-uQyStabDYqwNajkvYcI&usg=AFQjCNEpbeHLVNqV5iSVoqcniG_tDQxBJw

*** Technology to make Goa police responsive - Times of India
ffs oncriminal activities, the power of technology will be used
to make the Goa police more accountable if a state committee has
its way. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Technology-to-make-Goa-police-responsive/articleshow/4647745.cms&cid=1259507383&ei=-uQyStabDYqwNajkvYcI&usg=AFQjCNFpyUsCuvO_TZw5wiH5ISWOFWGNiA

*** Goa mulls changes in marriage laws - Times of India
mes of India, IndiaPANAJI: Months after Goa's marriage laws
rendered film star Sanjay Dutt's marriage illegal, a legislative
committee has recommended that the provision of a compulsory one
month residence proof for couples be scrapped. Chairman of the
ad hoc committee ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa-mulls-changes-in-marriage-laws/articleshow/4648827.cms&cid=1259593297&ei=-uQyStabDYqwNajkvYcI&usg=AFQjCNG_5E8CAXdf8cazuRjXLHSqFfnI5A


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of Portuguese

2009-06-12 Thread Venantius Pinto
It should have been the Se Cathedral over Bom Jesus. Its good that the
historian Precival Noronha pointed this out. But all is cool in love, war,
advertising AND Goan sentiments.

venantius j pinto

>
> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:57:48 -0400
> From: "Goanet News Service" 
> Subject: [Goanet] Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of Portuguese
>
> Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of Portuguese origin
>
(del)

> Another heritage landmark, the Se Cathedral standing barely 300 metres from
> the
> Basilica was also on the list of 27 monuments. "Perhaps, Basilica was a
> favourite
> among voters because there is a lot of sentimental and spiritual attachment
> to it as
> the mortal remains of the patron saint of the East Indies, St Francis
> Xavier are
> kept in a mausoleum in it," said Percival Noronha, a historian.

(del)


[Goanet] Comment about Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of Portuguese origin

2009-06-12 Thread Sapna Shahani
As a non-Goan who's lived here on and off for 20 years, I'm very curious
about Goa's history with the Inquisition.
How is it that the gory history of Goa's past remains virtually unknown by
outsiders or tourists? The Basilica of Bom Jesus is a beautiful building but
I find it odd that visitors don't know what cruelties once took place in the
vicinity of the Basilica.

Would love to hear the thoughts of people on this list...

Best,
Sapna.


[Goanet] Goan kantaram (Konkani music)... in Europe

2009-06-12 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरो नया]
Sigrid Pfeffer's  work on Konkani kantaram has
also got reflected here:
On Monday there is a broadcast on bytefm, a german internetradio about the CD:

Mo., 15.6.09, 6 pm (5 hours later in India)

Bricolage Deluxe diesmal mit einem Indian-Special!! Wir widmen uns
heute in Bricolage Deluxe einer fast vergessenen Musik aus dem
Bundesstaat Goa. Es geht um die Konnkani-Musik, jetzt
wiederzuentdecken auf einer Cd-Compilation. Filmmusik aus Indien ist
seit einigen Jahren ziemlich angesagt bei uns. Aber man kann jenseits
von Bollywood immer noch erstaunliche Klänge entdecken. Die
Musikjournalistin Sigrid Pfeffer reist seit Jahren immer wieder in ihr
Lieblingsland Indien und sie kam durch einen Zufall auf die Musik aus
dem Bundesstaat Goa. Und so gibt s inzwischen die Cd  Konkanni Songs
Music from Goa   Made im Bombay . Außerdem neue Tracks von den Midival
Punditz aus Neu Dehli, Olli and the Bollywood Orchstra aus Paris und
Kalkutta sowie anderen Bollywood-Protagonisten.

http://byte.fm/index.php?cont=sendungen_detail&sendung=63&termin=11959

Also see:
http://www.jungewelt.de/2009/05-04/042.php
http://blog.zeit.de/tontraeger/2009/04/22/frau-pfeffer-horchte-auf_2501
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[Goanet] Talking Photos: Clouds

2009-06-12 Thread JoeGoaUk
Clouds etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk19/3617848552/sizes/l/
 
Thick, dark Rain cloud
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk19/3617028895/sizes/l/
 


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Re: [Goanet] Migrant Labourers and Outsiders

2009-06-12 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo

Any special reason why they love Goa so much, and not any other part of India? 

As, according to you, Goans are Indians, and by that default Goa is India, why 
not love/settle say in Belgaum, or for that matter, Sawantwadi, or even, 
according to some, the much superior Mumbai? 

What makes Goans so lovable? Aren't other Indians as lovable? 

Cheers,

Gabriel.

- Original Message 
From: Ana Maria de souza-Goswami 
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Thursday, 11 June, 2009 12:54:36 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Migrant Labourers and Outsiders

Some of my women friends are foreigners married to Indians and they simply love 
Goa. They have settled in Goa, because they love the place, like the people and 
have integrated into the Goan Society.  


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[Goanet] LionRoars

2009-06-12 Thread Lionel Messias
*Kantak cares not*

Thanks to Aires Rodrigues and Advocate General Subodh Kantak, the thankless
(trust me, you can’t imagine how much) task of writing this column is made
easy on the rare occasion. What I love about these two gentlemen is that
Kantak matches Rodrigues’ increasing incidents of exposing him, by simply
increasing his own financial bottomline. Actually, the truth is Kantak is
more than one step ahead – after all, time is money! There is no comparable
word for this in business lingo, but there’s a beautiful term any layman
will understand … I think its called cock-a-snook. Kantak has been
cocking-a-snook at Rodrigues, apart from the rest of the world too. Anyways,
it reminds me of Snoop Doggy Dogg – the hardcore rap music about violent
street life in the US of A, I think first put on the pop charts by IceCube.
So, while Rodrigues raves on with his ‘Gangsta Rap’, Kantak stays ice cool.
You dig? Here’s the latest ‘Rap’ on Kantak. Rodrigues in his inimitable
style, says he has been paid Rs 3 crores 99 lakhs 46 thousand 750 rupees by
the Goa government between February 2005 and February 2009 (see table
below), making your government, India’s most litigious government beyond
reasonable doubt. That, according to Rodrigues makes Kantak not only India’s
highest paid Advocate General but India’s highest paid constitutional
authority as well.

He says: “Last year’s re-structuring of fees payable to Kantak was a sham as
Kantak is now getting paid up to Rs 5 lakhs a month, though the Advocate
Generals of bigger States like Karnataka, Maharastra and Gujarat average
around Rs 40,OOO a month.” I say Goa must be India’s most litigious State
advisedly, even after taking into account Modiland where the 2002 communal
riots spawned a bunch of cases against the Gujarat government that are yet
to see any conclusion. Thus, Rodrigues does make a point. According to
Rodrigues, Kantak gets paid three times the salary of President Pratibha
Patil, whose monthly salary is Rs 1.5 lakh, and almost five times the salary
of the Chief Justice of India - whose salary is Rs 1.10 lakh per month. Amen
to that.


*Doggone it*

Information Rodrigues obtained under Right to Information reveals Kantak met
with three accidents since February 11, 2005 for which he stitched the
government with a total repair bill of Rs 1, 38,256. This is when it gets
side-splitting. Very funny, because though I have gnashed my teeth in
frustration (seriously, that’s why I took a two-week Sabbatical because of
the futility of it all), this one caused mirth. Hugely, I might say. Here’s
why. Kantak’s first accident on July 22, 2006 was due to a coconut falling
on the bonnet of his official car; the other two accidents occurred on April
10, 2008 and January 20, 2009 and were caused by stray dogs! While in one
case his official driver claimed to have lost control because he braked
suddenly to avoid a stray dog, in the other case, a stray dog hit the front
bumper of his car! Yeah! Right. Now, one really hopes that Kantak, an animal
lover himself, wins his Rs 15 crore defamation suit against Rodrigues.
Because, if my memory serves me right, Kantak said he would use that
compensation, partly towards the welfare of stray dogs. There is of course
the inevitable twist in the tail concerning who drives Kantak’s official car
most of the time, but unfortunately as Rodrigues has no RTI evidence on this
for obvious reasons, I’ll let it be for the moment. Bow Wow!


*The high cost of official litigation *



Month Fees Retainership



11.2.2005 to 28.02.2005 2,24,000 -



1.3.2005 to 4.3.2005 74,000 -



16.6.2005 to 30.6.2005 47,000 9,750



Arrears June 2005 1,05,000 9,500



July 2005 3,08,000 19,500



Arrears July 2005 5,40,000 19,000



August 2005 4,46,000 19,500



Arrears August 2005 7,70,000 19,000



September 2005 4,07,000 19,500



Arrears September 2005 7,05,000 19,000



October 2005 2,09,000 19,500



Arrears October 2005 3,75,000 19,000



November 2005 2,03,000 19,500



Arrears of November 2005 3,65,000 19,000



December 2005 3,38,000 19,500



Arrears December 2005 5,90,000 19,000



January 2006 5,99,000 19,500



Arrears January 2006 1,02,5,000 19,000



February 2006 3,68,000 19,500



Arrears February 2006 6,40,000 19,000



March 2006 4,97,000 19,500



Arrears March 2006 8,55,000 19,000



April 2006 4,16,000 19,500



Arrears April 2006 7,20,000 19,000



May 2006 1,16,000 19,500



Arrears May 2006 2,20,000 19,000



June 2006 3,95,000 19,500



Arrears June 2006 6,85,000 19,000



July 2006 4,94,000 19,500



Arrears of July 2006 8,50,000 19,000



August 2006 4,31,000 19,500



Arrears August 2006 7,45,000 19,000



September 2006 8,48,000 38,500



October 2006 9,52,000 38,500



November 2006 1,1,36,000 38,500



December 2006 1,0,40,000 38,500



January 2007 1,0,64,000 38,500



February 2007 1,0,68,000 38,500



March 2007 1,9,60,000 38,500



April 2007 1,2,32,000 38,500



May 2007 64,000.00 38,500



June 2007 6,08,000 38,500



July

[Goanet] Konkani... on BBC radio

2009-06-12 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या
Fri 12 Jun 2009
23:15
BBC Radio 3

-- Forwarded message --
From: Sigrid Pfeffer 
Date: 2009/6/12
Subject: bbc radio

hi there,

Tonight Trikont's KONKANI SONGS CD will be featured on BBC Radio 3.

TODAY, 23:15 on Radio 3
Lopa Kothari
Lopa Kothari is joined in the studio session by celebrated blues
singer Taj Mahal.

in the attachment you'll find the playlist and this is the link/lifestream:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00kszv7

best regards

sigrid





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[Goanet] DNA: World: 2 Indian sites among '7 Wonders of Portuguese Origin'

2009-06-12 Thread Ruby Goes
Goanetters,
This article may be of interest to some of you.

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1263954

Orla best from multicultural Sydney.

Rubygoes
(Keeping warm)



[Goanet] Com. Janet, Filip, Ambe with Buska, Marcus Vaz, Pascoal Rod, CD Silva etc to perform in Wembley /Swindon/Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Bahrain/Kuwait

2009-06-12 Thread JoeGoaUk
Com. Janet, Filip, Ambe with Buska, Marcus Vaz, Pascoal Rod, CD Silva etc to 
perform in Wembley /Swindon/Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Bahrain/Kuwait
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3618291427/sizes/l/
 
 
Gulf tour dates as follows:
Dubai 2nd July
Abu Dhabi 3rd July
Bahrain 8th July (or 9th)
Kuwait 10th July
 
UK
Swindon 18th July
Wembley 25th July 
 
For more details of UK tour and the Tiatr flyer
Please click here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3618291427/sizes/l/
 
The tiatr ‘SOGLLIM KHOXEAL’ by Com. Janet and fillip almeida
With  comedian Queen Janet, Filip Ameida, Com Ambe, Buska, Shruti, Pascoal Rod, 
Marcus Vaz, C D Silva, Tony de Ribandar, Aldair, Satyam Tari, Anthony Caido etc
 
Our Senior Tiatrist C D Silva, the man of thousand faces, will also release his 
new VCD ‘ Farikponn’ in the Gulf and UK.
 
Some photos: 
 
CD Silva with Remie Colaco (2008)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk12/2870687036/
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/2417194005/
 
 
Bushka, d/o of young Chico
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3578636067/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/207794080/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk12/2522193807/
 
shruti naik
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/83988628/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/81788135/
 
Marcus Vaz
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/1065930128/
 
 
Janet, Tony de Ribandar etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/950525735/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk12/2837631932/
 
 
Com. Ambe (VCD cover)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/1815399271/
 
 
One of them is Aldair I think ( the second one)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqY-GWqI6DI
 
Pascoal/Marcus etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX0VwOSHWns

 
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[Goanet] The Seven Deadly Sins: Envy

2009-06-12 Thread Holy Spirit Interactive
History tells of a statue that was erected to Theogenes, a celebrated victor in 
the 
Greek public games. The erection of this statue so excited the envious hatred 
of one 
of his rivals that he went every night and strove to throw the statue over by 
repeated blows. Ultimately he succeeded, but alas, the statue fell upon him, 
and he 
was crushed to death beneath it. Such generally is the end of the man who 
allows 
himself to be carried away by the spirit of envy.[1]

St. Thomas Aquinas defines envy as "sorrow or sadness over another's good 
because 
that good is regarded as something withheld or taken away from the envious 
person's 
excellence or reputation." The CCC puts it more simply: "It refers to the 
sadness at 
the sight of another's goods and the immoderate desire to acquire them for 
oneself, 
even unjustly. When it wishes grave harm to a neighbor, it is a mortal sin.[2]

Do you sometimes think as you drive: "Why does my neighbor get to drive that 
lovely 
Mercedes, while I am saddled with this tin can." Or, when you see a beautiful 
woman 
in the mall: "Why did God make her so pretty and me so plain? I wish it would 
be 
other way around." Or, if you're in the spiritual 'business': "Why has God 
blessed 
him with such a successful ministry, and me, despite my years of service, with 
just 
a handful of people?"

That's envy. And it's deadly. Like Basilea Schlink said, envy is like "a 
poisonous 
root in our soul that can kill others, and ourselves." Or, if you prefer 
Scriptural 
quotations, here's one from the Book of Proverbs: "A heart at peace gives life 
to 
the body, but envy rots the bones" (Proverbs 4:30 NIV).



http://www.holyspiritinteractive.net/columns/aneelaranha/sevendeadlysins/07.asp




[Goanet] Free Software-in-education expert to visit Goa

2009-06-12 Thread Frederick "FN" Noronha
Dr. Sasikumar from C-DAC Mumbai will be in Goa from 18-20 June, 2009
to conduct a workshop at Goa University. If any educational network
could take advantage of his presence in Goa and host a lecture, Sat
June 20 at 4 pm could be the ideal slot.

Please contact Prof VV Kamat to check options and/or finalise
vvka...@unigoa.ac.in

"Open Source and education has a lot of mindshare match,": says Dr. M
Sasikumar, Principal Research Scientist and Incharge of the R&D Unit
at the Centre for Development of Advanced Computing (CDAC) in Navi
Mumbai. An interview with a passionate supporter of FLOSS in
education.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq8X6Z1K-nI

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[Goanet] Quality control on Indian Traditional Drugs Lok Sabhs Q/A

2009-06-12 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE

Measures to ensure quality of Indian Traditional Medicines
Lok Sabha
http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=45782

Government have taken following steps to ensure the safety and quality of 
Ayurvedic, Siddha and Unani medicines (ASU): 

i. Mandatory testing for heavy metals has been introduced w.e.f. 01.01.2006 for 
herbal Ayurveda, Siddha and Unani medicines (ASU) which are being exported. 
This has been done to meet the regulatory requirements of importing countries. 

ii. State Drug Licensing Authorities have been directed to ensure full 
compliance by all Ayurvedic, Siddha and Unani (ASU) drug manufacturers with the 
provisions of Rule 161 (1) and (2) relating to displaying on the label of the 
container or in a leaflet to be inserted in the package of any Ayurvedic, 
Siddha and Unani (ASU) drugs, a list of all the ingredients along with 
quantities used in the manufacture of the preparation. 

iii. Captain Shreeniwasmurti Drug Research Institute for Ayurveda, Chennai, 
Indian Institute of Toxicological Research, Lucknow and Sri Ram Institute for 
Industrial Research, New Delhi have analyzed about 600 plants and it was found 
that lead arsenic and mercury levels were within the permissible limit. 

iv. Good Manufacturing Practices have been made mandatory for all Ayurveda, 
Siddha and Unani drug (ASU) manufacturing units in the country through an 
amendment of Schedule T of Drugs and Cosmetics Rules, 1945. 

This information was given by Smt. Panabaka Lakshmi, Minister of State for 
Health & Family Welfare in written reply to a question in the Lok Sabha today. 

DS/GK/traditional/423
Shrikant Vinayak Barve

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Re: [Goanet] The state of US capitalism and Ayurveda medicine

2009-06-12 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Bosco,


Thanks for your response and your comments to my post.  Since you are a 
reasonable and logical person, I am taking the liberty to explain my 
post. Partisans do not necessarily tell the truth or a lie.  Their distortions, 
as we see abundantly on Goanet, occurs when they express their  opinions.  A 
fact / truth does not become a lie, just because it comes from a partisan 
source.  In fact likely, the partisans because of their interest, do the 
research. Some frequent posters on Goanet and who are expert web-surfers, quote 
/ copy these partisan-sources, without giving the web-link (reference) its 
credit.

In the link I provided (see below), Ariana Huffington does not even appear in 
the web-link. Likely  you did not see the videos of the web-link. The first 
video-link, shows O'Reiley making a  condemnation, in his usual 
obnoxious-self.  The second web-link, depicts the distortions of the truth with 
the actual facts.  The two web-links speak for themselves with no commentary / 
explanation provided / required.

Likely you fell for another poster's chronic mis-characterization of the 
Huffington Post. This blog carries articles written by many authorities in the 
US, including leading politicians, and other experts; like judge Posner an 
authority on antitrust, etc.  You and others should follow the Huff-Po, for 
useful national and international news. Many credit the demise of MAJOR 
newspapers to  factors, chief among which is the Huff-Po. It is usually updated 
three to four times a day, and sometimes oftener with Breaking News.  The 
web-links provide for some good comedy.  Each of the posts in the blog, 
provides for readers' input. What more would  one want for free.  Perhaps 
Goanet could follow a similar format.

Huff-Po usually provides unedited web-links (print and video) to other news 
sources, including  Fox News. This is the best way they quote the right wing of 
this country.  With Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, the naked facts (from the 
source) speak for themselves with no commentary needed.  

Rather than concentrate on the source of information, we should focus, rebut or 
expand, on the facts / information itself.  Or else, as often happens on 
goanet, we only get 'talking points' written-for, or copied-from the "Talking 
Heads"; with the other half of the post being the regular character 
assassination. When there is no sense to be made, personal name-calling is just 
so much more fun, and attention-getting.  It also is grandstanding, when there 
is nothing to stand on. When the faux-pas is displayed for all to see, we get a 
weasel-retreat.:=))  This by itself is really hilarious.  Goanetters are smart 
enough to distinguish factual information from sloganeering.

Regards, GL


--- Bosco D'Mello 

I concur with the comments in para 1. All politicians are less than completely 
truthful.
Re the weblink above - that is another in a series of partisan websites 
vis-a-vis US 
politics. It provides the opposite view of the links that Mario provides. I 
would 
not use it as a reference for anything.


 Gilbert Lawrence

Darn those instant references,  fact-checking, transcripts and video-links. 
More increasingly, the right-wing is being caught red-handed lying about 
the facts.  See below:
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/05/rick-sanchez-rips-bill-or_n_211971.html





Re: [Goanet] The state of US capitalism and Ayurveda medicine

2009-06-12 Thread Mervyn Lobo

Bosco D'Mello wrote:
> Whatever search engine Mario is using, it seems he only finds right-wing, 
> conservative sources for his information. How very interesting!!



Duh! The National Post? 
For those who are not aware of it, this is another one of those newspapers who
publish articles with opinions, numbers and 'facts' that are no where near the 
truth. As such, people stop buying the paper and it has to operate at a 
perpetual
loss. 


I guess the National Post must be relying on the US model of capitalism 
since it produces, at a loss, items no one wants to buy.


My last comment on this subject is about today's news. This morning, Obama 
released his plan to revolutionize the US health care system. Peace be upon 
him. 
If he succeeds in getting the funding, I am moving back to the US. Think about 
it.
Free medicals, cheap housing and a weak currency. Now is the time to move. 
All that is required is for me to find a place with good donuts and where the
govt is giving subsidies to keep people working in failed industries.   

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Re: [Goanet] Governments Goan Identity Hypocrisy

2009-06-12 Thread Arwin Mesquita
 I named this particular project after confirming that the over-whelming
absolute majority of the buyers are Foreigners and Rich Indians
(non-Goans).   Just naming something as PEACE VALLEY does not mean that that
what is actually stands for!! I suggest you take some on the ground in Goa
to get an understanding of the % of non-Goans buying these premium real
estate... and then tell me whether these monstrocities are really beneficial
to Goa & Goans.
Arwin
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:01:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: marlon menezes 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Governments Goan Identity Hypocrisy
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--- On Thu, 6/11/09, Arwin Mesquita  wrote:
 For instance, it is well
> known that
> Mega-Projects have a detrimental effect on the demography
> of Goa; by not
> bringing in so many migrant workers but also by the huge
> influx of Rich
> Non-Goans purchasing apartments; which are beyond the reach
> of most Goans!!
--->
What about the needs of the rich Goans? Why should their rights be trampled
upon? Sorry, I believe in equal rights for rich and poor Goans.


> For instance at Sirvoii, Quepem there is Mega-Project
> called ?PEACE VALLEY?
> by Sanathan Buiders; details can be viewed over the
> internet i.e. 200 crore
> project over 75,663 sq km complete with 57 villas, 174
> apartments Golf
> Courses, Horse Riding, Helipad etc I would understand that
> these apartments
> would be beyond the reach of ordinary goans and am curious
> to know who the
> purchasers will be?
--->
It may be out of reach of ordinary Goans, but what about the extraordinary
Goans, expat Goans, temporary (for most of one's life) expat Goans, such as
you, wanna be Goans etc?

Since places like "Peace Valley" seem to be antithetical to Goan culture,
perhaps you can establish an alternate venue to promote our dying culture.
We can call it "Death Valley". Instead of golf courses etc, we can have
shooting ranges, so that we can shoot ourselves in the foot.

Dev Boredom Korum
Marlon


[Goanet] Jitendra Deshprabhus' mature comments about Dr.Willy

2009-06-12 Thread cyril D'Souza
This is with reference to the recent news item about Dr.Willys' exit from the 
NCP 
and the subsequent slandering and rumours being floated. Let me first and 
foremost 
congratulate Mr. Jitendra Deshprabhu for the excellent performance in the 
recently 
concluded Lok Sabha Elections . Though he lost by a small margin of just 5000 
votes 
he could have done better had it not been for the infighting within the ranks 
of 
the NCP sadly instigated by the likes of  a legislator from  South  Goa.

Being a coalition partner NCP candidate was given the North Goa seat and 
ofcourse 
Dr.Willys' supporters in Calangute, Saligao and elsewhere went about 
distributing 
cards and people did vote for the NCP but the recent fiasco is uncalled for 
especially when the NCP is reeling after the suspension of one of its MPs from 
Maharashtra. IN the wake of all this we Goans welcome Mr. Deshprabhus' remarks 
and 
comments about Dr.Willy that the later being the ex CM of Goa had played a 
major 
role in its progress bringing Goa to the level it is today and that he respects 
the 
former NCP president of Goa unit. By uttering these mature comments he has not 
only 
respected the octogenarian dotor from Saligao but has also paid respects to all 
Dr.Willys'  supporters and sympathisers across Goa who supported Deshprabhus' 
candidature during the Lok Sabha polls.
However the comments made by Ms.Fatima de Sa are in bad taste  and seem 
immature as 
they reflect utter frustration within the rank and file of the NCP . A little 
introspectionn needs to be done and I think it is high time all secular parties 
sticjk together and strengthen the hands of the UPA government at the centre .

Yours truly,

Col.Cyril P.D'Souza ( Retd.)
Gauravaddo - Calangute
Goa




Re: [Goanet] Next Chief Minister, it's going to be Parrikar

2009-06-12 Thread Melvyn Ferrao
Kids, its not good to have so much faith in Goan voters.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:55 PM, JoeGoaUk  wrote:

> Yes, next election, next CM, it's Parrikar
>
> so say these Trio Kids
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCxFDv5gzcs
>
> There is something about Babush & Filip Neri too.
>
> Besides, Preeti Zinta
>
> Watch Benzer- Jr. Peter-Roshan
> Watch Bladwin  - Jr. Mini Mario
> and many other Juniors
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCxFDv5gzcs
>
>
> joego...@yahoo.co.uk
>
> for Goa & NRI related info...
> http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/
>
> For Goan Video Clips
> http://youtube.com/joeukgoa
>
> In Goa, Dial  1 0 8
> For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
>
>
>
>


[Goanet] Why can't we celebrate OLA?

2009-06-12 Thread Bernado Colaco

Dotor JC,

Do you mean if Borgy was wearing a kashti it would extrapolate the sexy 
pollution. Don't you think Wendy would be happy that his fashion items were now 
on public display?

Regards

BC


A well-known advocate friend from Margao would characteristically ask:
you wore a 'kashti' (loincloth) until 1510? So the next time we see
you wearing pants/trousers, would you want us to set them on fire?

Baba Valmiki, Naka re baba i.e. Perish the thought of forcing Borges
to walk around in a kashti. Isn't there enough of pollution in Goa
already?





[Goanet] Daily Grook #434

2009-06-12 Thread Francis Rodrigues


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[Goanet] Vedanta Took Over Sesa Goa; Sesa Takes Over Dempu Mines

2009-06-12 Thread augusto pinto
http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2009061215

Something very significant is happening in Goa. First Vedanta
Resources which is based in London, took over Sesa Goa. Now the Dempos
have sold off their Goa mining operations for 1750 crore rupees to
Sesa Goa Will others  follow suit?

For us, who makes how many crores is of no significance, But what are
the social and political implications of such huge financial deals?
Could anyone explain?

Er... Did I just hear someone say Goa is being sold? To Outsiders?

Augusto

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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 580 -POLITICIANS AND THE LAW

2009-06-12 Thread John Gomes

ADV AIRES RODRIGUS MAY HAVE HIS FAULTS, but he is forging the needed new 
frontier where most people fear to go.Yes, and inspiteof risk to his life. 
Kiran Bedi has recently clearly stated that the politicians have rendered the 
police force SPINELESS. Same goes for the bureaucrats by transferring them and 
using every foul means to supress  "Satye Meva Jaya te" ! They have killed 
Administration in Goa. Any administration worth the name is because of the 
Courts.They are now after the Press.In Delhi  a lavish lunch at the 5 star 
Ashoka Convention Hall for 500 media persons sitting at 60 well decorated 
separate tables with AICC Media Department Head announcing "There is nothing to 
report,, enjoy the music and food". In Goa Panchayat Raj Minister took all 
reporters to  the Dargalim  site to brainwash them into ignoring the facts and 
plaintive cries of the few genuine farmers left who are protesting conversion 
of orchards and fields into a huge sports
 and building complex and cannot be bribed/ are not interested in their being 
well compensated ! They have even suggested alternative barren land Sites where 
of course there will be no big money to be made.He has also ordered that 
government officers must not listen to Village Panchayats and Gram Sabhas have 
no powers to discuss development projects.I hope the Goa media will keep their 
spine intact! NOTHING WILL CHANGE UNLESS PEOPLE FORCE CHANGE.
 
 
 
 
 
 

--- On Wed, 10/6/09, goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org 
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From: goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org 
Subject: Goanet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 580
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009, 10:57 PM


 


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