[Goanet-News] Goanet-CyberMatrimonials - June 2009]

2009-06-19 Thread Frederick Noronha

Goanet-CyberMatrimonials - June 2009


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FEMALE (Looking for a Groom)

34 year old Goan female, looking for a goan male for matrimony aged 34-42 yrs.
Email: roses1...@yahoo.com

32 year old Goan RC female from Bastora. Bcom, LLB invites marriage alliance from 
decent Goan RC bachelor upto age 40, well educated, preferably working in Goa.

Email: jsouza1...@yahoo.com

34 year old RC Goan female in Canada looking for a goan male in Canada/UK/India/Gulf 
countries.

Email: goldenoneeleve...@yahoo.com with your details and photograph.

RC Goan female, slim, attractive, warm, fun-loving, westernised person with musical 
and creative talents. Our family is highly educated, westernised and liberal, but 
strong on family values. We are looking for a partner for her who is a highly 
educated professional, financially secure with similar family background and values.

Email: ua0...@gmail.com

24 year old RC Goan female, extremely loving, down to earth, helpful and simple, 
financially independent, staying with parents in Bahrain. Seeks alliance from 
educated Goan bachelors upto 28 years.

Email: alpereira...@hotmail.com

Goan RC spinster, born May 1980, post-graduate, working for a reputed software 
company in Hyderabad, India. 5'1, average build, wheatish complexion, pleasing 
personality, outgoing, with good family background. Looking for a Goan bachelor, 
God-fearing, upto 33 yrs of age, well-educated and strictly non-smoking.

Email: merlyn.rodrig...@gmail.com

34 year old Goan RC female, nice and affectionate girl . Live and work in 
Canada.
Email: seabluesk...@yahoo.com

A pleasant person nearing 40 would like to meet sincere Goan single men residing in 
the London area.

Email: clared...@yahoo.com

43 year old RC Goan female,  B.Com, petite, soft-spoken, pleasant natured working 
for a national bank in Mumbai looking for a suitable groom between 44-48, RC 
graduate, working in India or abroad.

Email: d_al...@yahoo.com

Mother of a 27year old, fair, 5 feet 2 inches tall, good looking, simple  pleasant 
girl. She is taking care of family business in Mumbai. She is looking for a simple 
and a good looking male who is pleasant and easy going and who is well settled in 
Mumbai or abroad.

Email: xmendo...@yahoo.com with photographs.



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MALE (Looking for a Bride)

Alliance invited for Goan R C bachelor, born and brought up in Delhi, 35 yrs, B Com, 
5' 6, good natured, hard working, working as an Executive in Trade Forwarding 
Company in Muscat, Oman. Seeking a Goan Girl of age up to 30 yrs old. Must be 
educated, God fearing with good family values.

Email with details and scanned photo to jessica...@yahoo.com

38 year old, fair 5feet, 7 inches tall, good looking and pleasant male divorcee no 
kids, obtained annulment from the church.  He is a Sales and Marketing Manager in 
Abu Dhabi.  Looking for a professional preferably a nurse who is pleasant and 
easygoing.  He has been brought up as a firm Goan RC in a God-fearing well respected 
family.  Has been living in Abu Dhabi for the last 15 years, enjoys travel and 
socialising.

Email: ton77...@hotmail.com

RC Bachelor, 39, tall good-looking, athletic, Administrative Executive working in 
the hospitality industry in Ahmedabad looking for an RC spinster aged 30-35 willing 
to settle in Ahmedabad.

Email: russeldso...@eth.net

36year old Goan RC bachelor, post graduate, residing in London, works as Analyst, 
seeks suitable proposals from USA, UK, or Australia, 28-34 years of age.

Email: kenyansk...@hotmail.co.uk

Mother of a 28year old, wheatish complexioned, 5 feet 3 inches tall, good looking  
pleasant. He is running a family business in Mumbai. He is looking for a simple and 
good looking girl who is pleasant and easy going and who can assist him in his 
business. He enjoys traveling, socialising and a very humorous person.

Email: xmendo...@yahoo.com with photographs.


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Re: [Goanet] Us jheel ka pani_From Urdu into Konknni, Marathi, English, and Japanese

2009-06-19 Thread Venantius Pinto
Us jheel ka pani_From Urdu into Konkani, Marathi, English, and Japanese

Urdu:
Mirza Ghalib par ek ladki peshaab kar deti hai. Mirza sahab farmate hai.
Aa chanchal shoq hasina yeh kaisi nadani hai?
Ladki jawaab deti hai.
Mirza sahab aap jis jheel se nikle hai yeh us jheel ka pani hai
__
in konknni:
Mirza Ghalib-acher ek cheddun mutta. Mirza saib mhunta
O sobest cheddva yem kit tujem nennar-ponn
Cheddun zavab dita
Mirza saib tu jya vallant-san bair sorla yem tya vallant-lem udok

in marathi:
Mirza Ghaliba-var ek mulgi lagvi karte. Mirza saheb mhunto
he kasluh nadan-punn
Mulgi uttar dete
Mirza saheb aapand jya vavuatun bhaher shirle / nigale, he tya
vavuache / vavuantele pani

in English:
A girl urinates on Mirza Ghalib. Mirza sahab / sir says,
O beauteous girl *this indeed is such innocence*? (such innocence this
(is)?)
The girl responds.
Mirza sahab, the brook that you came from, this water is from that brook

an attempt in Japanese (romaji, ie., in roman script):
Sho'ojo wa Ghalib-sama (Mirza) ni shouben shimasta. Ghalib-sama wa imashita.
Kawaiso no o-jo'o-san nani ga mu'jakina koto sore o?
Sho'ojo ga ha'nnoo shimashita
Mirza-san wa shousaashi kara ikimashita no de, ano shousaashi no o-mizu desu

venantius j pinto


Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Portugal’s seven wonders spark controversy

2009-06-19 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo

Ah Freedom Fighters!  

Who designed and engineered the building?  Materials and labour may have been 
local, but weren't the locals considered Portuguese citizens?  

Forced labour? Is Karmali so sure about this? 

 
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Subject: [Goanet] NEWS: Portugal’s seven wonders spark controversy

The laterite stone used to build the basilica was sourced from Goa.
The limestone used to reinforce it was from Goa. The wood used for
roof arches was from Goa. The Portuguese have no business saying these
structures are Portguese in origin, he said.

He also noted that forced labour - prisoners of the Inquisition - was
used to build these monuments. The labourers were indigenous, who
worked till they dropped dead, Karmali said, adding that the GFFA had
asked the state government to raise the matter with the central
government.


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[Goanet] More about Aussie Racism (or not)

2009-06-19 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25656955-5000117,00.html
 
Copping a fair gobful
Andrew Bolt
June 19, 2009 

UNTIL last week, when a black man and a white man bashed Sunny Bajaj, I thought 
I could tell a racist thug from a good one.
Not that I thought the difference mattered much, to be honest. Broken teeth are 
broken teeth, after all, and will hurt just as much if the bozo who broke them 
has not a racist bone in his tattooed knuckles. Or so I figured. 

But now I see that's just one of the many dumb things I've got wrong about this 
new racism game. 

It's so mortifying. Here I am, desperate to hate racists, but suddenly unsure I 
could spot one even by the light of a burning cross. 
My confidence was finally snuffed out just the other day, when Bajaj, a Deakin 
University student now nursing bruises and a fractured finger, became the 
latest unfortunate Indian to be mugged in Melbourne. 

Here's the Times of India report: 
Bajaj is the latest victim of the racial attacks that have been unleashed in 
Australia in the past two months and seem to be continuing unabated . . .  I 
was returning to my car after shopping when two men accosted me and asked for 
money. When I said I didn't have any, they began abusing me and then attacked 
me without any provocation. One of them was white and the other seemed to be of 
African origin. 

To my shame, when I first read of this appalling assault I didn't see at first 
the Australian racism that the Times now informs me is plain to an honest eye. 

Forgive this witless sinner, but I'd actually been relieved to read that a 
white Australian and a black newcomer had worked together like brothers, 
overlooking any trivial difference of race to focus instead on what truly 
united them - which in this case happened to be a mutual desire to get ahead by 
bashing people and stealing their stuff. 

In my madness I even hummed a few triumphant bars of McCartney: 
Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony 
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh lord why don't we? 

Ha! I exulted. Even our sociopaths turn out to be committed multiculturalists. 
Bajaj may have his bruises, but at least no man could call this proof of our 
racism. 

Oh, how stupid. You see my mistake, of course. I'd entirely overlooked the fact 
that even when multiculturalists bash an Indian, it's racist. And now another 
recent case that's confused me becomes clearer. 

For some years in the poor Sydney suburb of Harris Park, gangs of mainly Middle 
Eastern men were robbing even the staff of Wesley Mission. Gordon Moyes, then 
the mission's head and now a NSW politician, said last week his staff weren't 
the only victims: I found that over a period of time many elderly Anglo-Saxon 
women were attacked and robbed . . . 
But there were no cries of racism. In fact, I doubt you even heard this was 
happening, so normal do we now consider such violence. 

But then Indians started to move en masse into the suburb, and the Middle 
Eastern youths attacked them, too. Boy, you've now heard of that. Indeed, for 
three nights in a row this month, as you saw on television, there were protests 
in the suburb's streets by Indians denouncing this racism. 

Deeply moved by the plight of these Indians and those in Melbourne, 
Hark-the-Sydney-Morning-Herald professional angel David Marr again blamed his 
eternal demons - John Howard and his racist Australians -- for yet more ugly 
breakouts of anxieties that are old and widespread. 

So attacks on white grannies are not racist, but attacks by the very same 
people on Indians are. There's the difference, made clear to me at last. That 
may explain why it was not racist when three Asian criminals last month stabbed 
to death Luke Mitchell in Brunswick after he tried to save a stranger from 
attack, but why it was racist when some other men last month stabbed Sravan 
Kumar Theerthala almost to death at a Melbourne party. 

I THINK I'm getting the hang of it, but yet another stabbing still has me 
stumped. Tell me, should I see racists at work in this alleged crime, as 
reported this month in the Gold Coast Bulletin?  With dried blood in his hair 
and 11 stitches across his throat Gold Coaster Jack Donnelly considers himself 
lucky . . . Mr Donnelly, who has a prosthetic leg, said he noticed he was being 
followed by a group of men who he described as of Asian appearance. . .  
They were yelling 'piss off Aussie' and 'good on ya Skippy' . . . They slashed 
my throat with the bottle . . .  But now I'm in quicksand - unsure if I've 
spotted a racist, or just made myself seem one. Boy, this is tricky. 

You see, even I now dimly realise that in today's definition of a racist crime 
it's not just the race of the victims that matters, but the race of the thugs. 

How else to understand a baffling difference in the reporting of two Sydney 
riots, one from only last week? 

In 2005, largely white crowds of knuckleheads in Cronulla - sick of police 
inaction against 

[Goanet] My article in today's Herald : The price of corruption

2009-06-19 Thread Samir Kelekar

http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=23318cid=14


  


[Goanet] Goa news for June 19, 2009

2009-06-19 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Pooja Bhatt wants more Goans to participate in film
festivals - Hindu

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200906181621.htmcid=1262780584ei=-806SuTBGtCdlQeRmqCuCAusg=AFQjCNF7CsurUJThC0k4R5Mrw4-RvBE7Qg

*** 13 interceptor boats for coastal security - Hindu

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/19/stories/2009061955801300.htmcid=1263240274ei=-806SuTBGtCdlQeRmqCuCAusg=AFQjCNHn0z5659I_U15LXIe3jmkLwlnRnA

*** Congress women\'s wing support casinos in Goa - Zee News

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.zeenews.com/news540408.htmlcid=1263364471ei=-806SuTBGtCdlQeRmqCuCAusg=AFQjCNFqRuWgGBDZQ3PAe607zrhs5ArCzw

*** IRB bags first BOT project in Goa - Moneycontrol.com
aning of NH-4A from Goa/ Karnataka Border Km 84.00 to Panaji 
Goa Km 153.070 in the State of Goa under NHDP Phase III on ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/news/business/irb-bags-first-bot-projectgoa/402298cid=1263462423ei=-806SuTBGtCdlQeRmqCuCAusg=AFQjCNEQGc9GpgdPj-jH59j9gcvPrilJEQ

*** Goa minister claims casino duped him of Rs.1.25 crore
winnings - Sify
tar resort in South Goa, of not paying him Rs.1.25 crore that
he had won at the casino last month. In a complaint filed at the
Colva ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?a=jgsu4Hefdeatitle=Goa_minister_claims_casino_duped_him_of_Rs_1_25_crore_winningscid=1263339923ei=-806SuTBGtCdlQeRmqCuCAusg=AFQjCNFKbFJSG-RDTBqzigN6PCw0AQkLCA

*** Goa\'s Lone Swine Flu Patient Discharged - Daijiworld.com

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=61402n_tit=Goa's+Lone+Swine+Flu+Patient+Dischargedcid=1263249674ei=-806SuTBGtCdlQeRmqCuCAusg=AFQjCNFZRhB3t7ipDxwpaZJXokNvHn2zPA

*** Volvo Trucks India opens an exclusive dealership in Goa -
Wheels Unplugged - Indis'a Automobile Magazine
Indis'a Automobile Magazine, IndiaGoa became our strategic
priority for a new dealership considering the growing Volvo
Truck population and future potential. High-value products
demand high involvement for meeting customer expectations and we
expect the new dealership to work on ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.wheelsunplugged.com/ViewNews.aspx?newsid=3610cid=0ei=-806SuTBGtCdlQeRmqCuCAusg=AFQjCNE35G-p4FdjvMZWfMrJDwnUEdM5rQ

*** Don\'t put spokes in development plans, says Alemao - Times
of India
mes of India, IndiaAddressing the gathering at Lohia maidan,
Margao, at a programme held to pay homage to Goa's freedom
fighters, Alemao reiterated his stance that it would be
disastrous for Goa to have an airport at Mopa. An airport at
Mopa will mean more inflow of ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Dont-put-spokes-in-development-plans-says-Alemao/articleshow/4673400.cmscid=0ei=-806SuTBGtCdlQeRmqCuCAusg=AFQjCNFNH_YXTZ0jRoIj7k7x_MnsCXvnVA

*** SEZ promoters to contest Goa govt\'s decision - Economic
Times
ed government on Monday resolved to scrap its own policy that
had cleared as many as ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/Economy/Infrastructure/SEZ-promoters-to-contest-Goa-govts-decision/articleshow/4669297.cmscid=0ei=-806SuTBGtCdlQeRmqCuCAusg=AFQjCNGZv6KOfrqzp64InO3oPsG4BJDdZg

*** Sesa Goa plans to export 5-lakh tonne of ore fines -
Economic Times
onomic Times, IndiaSESA Goa, the country's largest private iron
ore exporter, plans to export five lakh tonne of iron ore fines
from Goa this monsoon, reports Smitha Venkateswaran in Panaji.
This is the first time any mining company will be attempting to
export iron ore ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News-by-Industry/Sesa-Goa-plans-to-export-ore-fines/articleshow/4673614.cmscid=0ei=-806SuTBGtCdlQeRmqCuCAusg=AFQjCNEsrLNGQtqGLcpkGVFGPbP_NXtLuQ


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] songs with mog

2009-06-19 Thread JANE ALPHONSO


 






hi guys here are some more songs i hope u like them i hope u have a nice day 
with mog from jjandson
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJv5xq6yEIg  OH Goa konkani

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAwb58du8G0 
M Boyer - Adlea Tempar Konkani Song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMj9PecwY5Y  M Boyer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5G1TnYgIj8
Anthony San - Aptun Doptun Konkani Songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9_EyJW95wI   Aamché Lorna - Aamizad 
Franklinachi Konkani Songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff1g35Uo6IA   Konkani Song : Ugdass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4EL56vyHn8   Konkani Song: Dar Mogachem
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9DIJlzRRPE 
Konkani Song: Rupkar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw9BHR4rVO8   Konkani Song : Io Mog
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 










[Goanet] Daily Grook #441

2009-06-19 Thread Francis Rodrigues



DAILY GROOK #441


GRIEF CHIEF

by Francis Rodrigues



ol' barack's a dear
stable and capable,
but to north korea
...he's obamanable!


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[Goanet] Goanet Reader: On why Goans mourn their recent past... (Paulo Varela Gomes)

2009-06-19 Thread Goanet Reader
ON WHY GOANS MOURN THEIR RECENT PAST (AND PRESENT)... AND OTHER RELATED
ISSUES

Rochelle Pinto,
BETWEEN EMPIRES, Print and Politics in Goa.
Delhi, Oxford University Press, 2007.
299 pp

REVIEWED BY Paulo Varela Gomes
paulovarelago...@gmail.com

'Between Empires. Print and Politics in Goa' is one of the
more important books I have ever read about Goa.  First of
all it is important because of the relevance of the material
it discusses: texts of all sorts printed in Goa and in Bombay
(by Goans): historiography essays, newspapers, novels,
theatre plays, memoirs and reports.

Rochelle Pinto read this material at libraries and archives
in Goa, Lisboa, Bombay, Delhi, London and wove around it a
complex and rich analysis of Goan politics and culture from
the time of the bourgeois liberal revolution in Portugal
(1821-1834) to the end of the century (in fact the book
should have seen sub-titled 'Print and Politics in Goa in the
19th century').

  Also, the book discusses its material in a manner
  that confirms the triumph of a new approach to
  history and cultural studies in colonial matters
  that not only avoids old and obvious political
  agendas, but is at ease with past struggles and
  stands simultaneously far from old colonial and new
  post-colonial ideological fixations.

  In this context, 'Between Empires' is, to a large
  extent, the result of a conclusion Rochelle Pinto
  arrived at after getting rid of the preconceptions
  and the methods of the Anglo-Saxon oriented
  academia that she was trained with during her
  graduation and doctorate in Delhi and London: this
  conclusion is that the history of Goa in the 19th
  century (and beyond) cannot be understood under the
  theories of colonialism and nationalism born out of
  the experience and the historiography of the
  British Empire.

This idea is not, of course, Rochelle Pinto's only, nor is it
restricted to the case of Goa. Historians and social
scientists of Latin American countries have been thinking
along the same lines: the methods and ideas of research used
for, say, Bengal, are not applicable to Goa, Brazil or
Argentina without careful consideration.

A third reason why 'Between Empires' is a very important book
resides in its footnotes, so to speak: they are well done,
professional. This is no minor issue in a panorama of shoddy
academic publication with sources and references misquoted or
even not quoted at all, stale ideas and references given as
original, constant repetition of things one zillion times
published.

Finally, but importantly, the relevance of the book comes
from the fact that it helps us to understand why we perceive
Goa the way we do today, as the book traces the origins of
most of the stories and beliefs that constitute the nebulous
narrative mesh that we call Goan identity.  The book goes to
the root of this because its object of interest is the 19th
century and practically everything that we, the late moderns,
call 'the past' is, in fact, a 19th century construct.

  Modern history was invented in the 19th century.
  Modern historiographic narratives about the past
  were written by 19th century men. Most of these men
  shared a revolutionary, anti-clerical, liberal
  perspective inherited from the French revolution
  and its aftermath and they saw most past cultures
  as retrograde. Therefore they scrutinised what
  preceded them -- and their own times -- in search
  of signs of progress, over-valuing these signs and
  tending to ignore or scorn signs of permanence.

The historical narratives they passed on to us are the result
of these progressive, modern choices: some areas of the past
were left in greater obscurity than others. To a great
extent, therefore, we still see our past through a 19th
century lens.

In the case of Goa, Rochelle Pinto's book shows us that we
still see 19th century's Goan culture and society through a
19th century lens. The first line of the book is: If there
is a single dominant perspective through which Goa's Catholic
elite viewed their nineteenth century, it was as a condition
to be mourned. In fact, some of the Portuguese and Goan
elites of the 19th century perceived their own times as times
of decadence -- a vision that we inherited.

  'Between Empires' shows that Goan elite's cultural
  links with Portuguese cultivated and political
  milieus were so straight that we can actually say
  that they constituted one single dominant elite.
  They shared the same conceptions and the same
  myths: Goans, like some of the more important and
  famous Portuguese writers and journalists of the
  19th century, looked upon their collective destiny
  with sadness and discomfort as they compared it to

[Goanet] 'Goa Church Never Showed Preference To Any Political Party During LS Poll'

2009-06-19 Thread Goanet News
'Goa Church Never Showed Preference To Any Political Party During LS Poll'

By SAR NEWS

PANAJI, Goa (SAR NEWS) -- In the wake of media reports that the
Catholic Church in Goa was open to the rightwing Bharatiya Janata
Party Church in the recent parliametary elections, the Church
authorities clarified that they did indicate preferences for any
political party.

The Diocesan Centre for Social Communications, Media, a wing of the
Catholic Church, said that the Church had instead appealed to the
citizens, particularly the Catholics, to vote according to their
conscience and discretion.

It referred to an official statement issued by the Church before the
elections held in five phases between April and May, maintaining that
all citizens, including Catholics, were expected to vote according to
their conscience.

“All that the Church does is to recommend that voters use their
discretion with regard to parties whose policies are in conflict with
the ideals of national unity and communal harmony,” the Centre said in
a press release here, July 14.

The clarification was necessitated by some reports and comments
appearing in a section of the local media suggesting that the
spokesperson to Goa archbishop, Father Francisco Caldeira, had made
misleading statements on behalf of the Church leadership in the run-up
to the Lok Sabha elections.

The press release said the alleged statement (by Caldeira) that the
Catholics were open to the BJP was made in the course of an
“unsolicited telephonic interview” which was given to a reporter of a
national daily’s Goa edition.

The statement also refuted charges that the Goa Church had not done
enough to show its solidarity with the persecuted Christian tribals in
Kandamahal, Orissa.

It said the Goa Church had in fact topped the list of the Indian
dioceses which sent monetary help to the victims of communal riots in
Orissa last year and was the only one to collect more than 99,000
signatures, thus raising awareness among various entities, nationally
and internationally, on the sufferings of the victims.


[Goanet] Fw: The Story of Stuff.....

2009-06-19 Thread eric pinto

  Thanks to Yogita Mehra, in Goa.








http://ecoentertain ment.blogspot. com/2009/ 06/story- of-stuff- how-things- 
work.html

It's about the extraction-producti on-consumption- disposal cycle and how it is 
pretty unsustainable as it currently is - increasingly applicable to countries 
like India too.








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[Goanet] Procedure for Buying a Flat in Goa

2009-06-19 Thread Devak Argham
Hello



Can somebody shed some light on the procedure involved in buying a flat in
Goa

An agreement for sale has already been done with the builder.  Information
like

Society formation, registration etc, etc. till the last stage of ownership.



Obrigado



Rosario Fernandes


[Goanet] REMINDER: Sasikumar talk, Saturday, 4 pm, Goa Science Centre Miramar

2009-06-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha
Open Source and education has a lot of mindshare match,: says Dr. M
Sasikumar, Principal Research Scientist and Incharge of the RD Unit
at the Centre for Development of Advanced Computing (CDAC) in Navi
Mumbai. An interview with a passionate supporter of FLOSS in
education.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq8X6Z1K-nI
--
FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/fn
M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490
http://fredericknoronha.multiply.com/ http://goa1556.goa-india.org


[Goanet] Goan Chaplaincy Day in London

2009-06-19 Thread Jesus Mario B. Fernandes

Goan Chaplaincy Day in London 2009.


The annual Goan Chaplaincy Day in London will be celebrated on Sunday, the 21st 
of June at Bishop La Franc School, Croydon.

The day will begin with a thanksgiving Mass at 1.15pm with the local superior 
of the Pilar Fathers Fr.Lucas Rodrigues, Fr. Peter Soares and the Goan Chaplain 
Fr. Francis do Rosario concelebrating.The theme this year is 'Sacramentsour 
way to abide in His life'.

It will be followed by the dance with a leading UK Goan band  'Breakthru' in 
attendance.

Those Londoners desirous of attending and supporting the Chaplaincy may buy the 
tickets at the reception counter on the day.

 

Thank you.

For the organisers

J. Mario Fernandes



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Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Portugal's seven: Goan freed^m fightrs

2009-06-19 Thread Mario Goveia

Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:51:41 -0400
From: Pandu Lampiao pan...@gmail.com

Goan freed_m fight*rs is a lame bunch who are living off handouts. Are
they still around? 

Mario responds:

Hey, Pandurang, please put away whatever you are smoking or drinking, yaar - it 
could probably get you arrested:-))

Make up your mind.  If you don't know whether they are around, then how can 
you say that they are living off handouts?  Sheesh!

Pandurang wrote:

I mean what have they given us: a culture of endless corruption, sticky greed 
and directionless future. Don't you  agree their benefits should be cut off?

Mario responds:

In my never-humble opinion, you post-liberation Goans achieved your  exalted 
culture of corruption, greed and lack of direction all on your own.  Have the 
guts to admit it, and not blame someone else for it.

Perhaps you would be happier someplace where you could get kicked around by 
some white people:-))







[Goanet] More about Aussie Racism (or not)

2009-06-19 Thread Mario Goveia

Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:37:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au

Copping a fair gobful
Andrew Bolt
June 19, 2009 

UNTIL last week, when a black man and a white man bashed Sunny Bajaj, I thought 
I could tell a racist thug from a good one.  Not that I thought the difference 
mattered much, to be honest. Broken teeth are broken teeth, after all, and will 
hurt just as much if the bozo who broke them has not a racist bone in his 
tattooed knuckles. Or so I figured. 

Mario observes:

Seems more like old fashioned Aussie multi-cultural, equal opportunity thuggery 
rather than any racism, the facile charge that is designed, nay, guaranteed, 
to make civilized white people cower in shame and embarrassment.





Re: [Goanet] My article in today's Herald : The price of corruption

2009-06-19 Thread Roland Francis
Dear Samir,

I googled indian police salaries and got the following interesting item on
Yahoo Answers.
This activity shows as 3 years ago.

Question:
What is the average salary of an Indian police constable. Especially in
Tamil Nadu.

Best answer chosen by voters:
Rs.5600/- per month (official)
Rs.15000/- per month perks (unofficial)
Rs.3000/- per month as free food (unofficial)
Rs.3,00,000 per annum ( for not filing half the FIR cases received)

If this is not a case for doubling police salaries, with free decent
accomodation, free higher education for their children and free health for
life with expectation of zero corruption surrounding the whole process
including recruiting in return, then I don't know what is. Obviously the
country can afford it. Just find a way to convert the bribe money in public
hands to govt revenue to pay these people. Ditto for bribes to all other
govt employees.

Roland.


On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.comwrote:


 http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=23318cid=14






-- 
Roland Francis
http://roland-torontogoan.blogspot.com
+1 (416) 453.3371


[Goanet] Goa news for June 20, 2009

2009-06-19 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa minister claims casino duped him of Rs.1.25 crore
winnings - Sify
tar resort in South Goa, of not paying him Rs.1.25 crore that
he had won at the casino last month. In a complaint filed at the
Colva ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?a=jgsu4Hefdeatitle=Goa_minister_claims_casino_duped_him_of_Rs_1_25_crore_winningscid=1263339923ei=eh88SvmALYauMsb76LgFusg=AFQjCNHqozY3M4VMKKcvrvn1EmtS8rxXdw

*** Pooja Bhatt wants more Goans to participate in film
festivals - Hindu

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200906181621.htmcid=1262780584ei=eh88SvmALYauMsb76LgFusg=AFQjCNH_IrpJZ8ZLSrMQTpq_TjGhzcnONA

*** IRB bags first BOT project in Goa - Moneycontrol.com
aning of NH-4A from Goa/ Karnataka Border Km 84.00 to Panaji 
Goa Km 153.070 in the State of Goa under NHDP Phase III on ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/news/business/irb-bags-first-bot-projectgoa/402298cid=1263462423ei=eh88SvmALYauMsb76LgFusg=AFQjCNGv3ZBuKVjPQmkREhG1_p-isz7igA

*** Congress women\'s wing support casinos in Goa - Zee News

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.zeenews.com/news540408.htmlcid=1263364471ei=eh88SvmALYauMsb76LgFusg=AFQjCNEZ2EKslM-wDz6OM54y9BcXZ4pu5A

*** Govt will not impose anything on Goans, says CM - Times of
India

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Govt-will-not-impose-anything-on-Goans-says-CM/articleshow/4673405.cmscid=1264080609ei=eh88SvmALYauMsb76LgFusg=AFQjCNF6qfzTAjAEqceHYwk-h2yZUPFrtA

*** Goa restoring Portuguese architecture - Mangalorean.com
despite a few roadblocks. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcastbroadcastid=130629cid=0ei=eh88SvmALYauMsb76LgFusg=AFQjCNGhzX_TPyk9aBdVuclxsgR8gyp_kg

*** SEZ promoters to contest Goa govt\'s decision - Economic
Times
ed government on Monday resolved to scrap its own policy that
had cleared as many as ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/Economy/Infrastructure/SEZ-promoters-to-contest-Goa-govts-decision/articleshow/4669297.cmscid=0ei=eh88SvmALYauMsb76LgFusg=AFQjCNEAfllCTd7mQ2TXO45hOrcJ0wcYpA

*** Border with Karnataka needs re-demarcation: Goa law panel -
Thaindian.com
emarcate its eastern boundary with Karnataka, based on the
findings of the Justice Mahajan Commission constituted in 1960 -
before Goa's liberation from the Portuguese rule - to protect
its interests, Goa Law ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/politics/border-with-karnataka-needs-re-demarcation-goa-law-panel_100206901.htmlcid=1263831530ei=eh88SvmALYauMsb76LgFusg=AFQjCNH3W6FJWaluWY8E3X6uzCt789YTLQ

*** Goa to host 4th SAFF from 26 June - Indiantelevision.com
diantelevision.com, IndiaBy Indiantelevision.com Team MUMBAI:
The fourth edition of the South Asian Film Festival (SAFF) will
begin in Goa on 26 June. Over 50 films will be screened at the
festival, under the theme 'dissolving boundaries'. Said South
Asian Foundation ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.indiantelevision.com/aac/y2k9/aac366.phpcid=0ei=eh88SvmALYauMsb76LgFusg=AFQjCNEISnLVAfRtK0XbJCfo9U0uNSzFSw

*** Sesa Goa plans to export 5-lakh tonne of ore fines -
Economic Times
onomic Times, IndiaSESA Goa, the country's largest private iron
ore exporter, plans to export five lakh tonne of iron ore fines
from Goa this monsoon, reports Smitha Venkateswaran in Panaji.
This is the first time any mining company will be attempting to
export iron ore ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News-by-Industry/Sesa-Goa-plans-to-export-ore-fines/articleshow/4673614.cmscid=1263661482ei=eh88SvmALYauMsb76LgFusg=AFQjCNH32khbYomhTDs5UiMO0dfF7XWcZA


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


Re: [Goanet] 'Goa Church Never Showed Preference To Any Political Party During LS Poll'

2009-06-19 Thread simon fernandes

  goa church does show preference for catholic sudras





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[Goanet] Chief Ministers on Land to Outsiders

2009-06-19 Thread Arwin Mesquita
I appreciate Chief Minister Digambar Kamat asking Goans (on Goa's
Revolution Day) to refrain from selling land to outsiders. I request him to
drive down the latter message, also to his colleagues in his own party i.e.
MLA's who are busy doing all possible to sell Goa to the highest bidder via
illegal land conversions, liaising with land sharks  rich outsiders; so as
to make the maximum profits from land sales and the ultimate demise of Goa 
its identity. Also, if at all anything positive came out from the recently
held Lok Sabha elections, was the promises by all major political parties on
Special Status for Goa to stop land sales to non-goans; I hope it also
covers migrant control and other legislation's; including the urgent need to
stop all approvals for mega-projects, which are proven to favour outsiders!!

Arwin Mesquita (UAE)

Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/

Please also see below:
1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/

2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/

3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/

4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/

5.  MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/


[Goanet] A CHRISTIAN COMIC BOOK IN ROMI KONKNNI - By: Walter Menezes

2009-06-19 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994)

A CHRISTIAN COMIC BOOK IN ROMI KONKNNI

By: Walter Menezes

Book review of:
Devachim Vortim Vismitam
(Dhormdutancho Itihas)
Konknni Translation of
Rev. Fr. Salvatore Putzu, sdb, and his collaborators' comic book, Acts of the 
Apostles

KonknniTranslation: Fr. Manuel P. Gomes
Publisher: Diocesan Centre for Biblical Apostolate, Old Goa.
Price: Rs. 110/-


[Cover Page]


It was the fourth of June, 2009. The function to felicitate Prabhakar 
Tendulkar, the 
doyen of the Konknni Movement, was over. The photographer was busy arranging 
the 
mez-karbhari of Dalgado Konknni Akademi and Omor Prokaxon for a shoot with the 
'birthday-boy'.

Those who had assembled to greet Prabakar-bab on his 75th birthday were heading 
towards the lift to take them down to 0-level. Among the many prominent 
personalities who attended the celebration was Fr. Manuel Gomes, Director, 
Diocesan 
Centre for Biblical Apostolate (DCBA), Goa. He presented me a copy of Devachim 
Vortim Vismitam (DVV) and Zannvayecho Ulo Ani Provadiancho Tallo (Part II), two 
of 
DCBA's most recent publications which were released by Archbishop Filipe Neri 
Ferrão 
on Pentecost Sunday, May 31, 2009 at the Sé Cathedral, Old Goa.

Comic Book in Romi Konknni

DVV immediately caught my attention. It was a comic book in Romi Konknni, 
explaining 
through striking visuals and graphic details The Acts of the Apostles, the 
fifth 
book of the New Testament. Seeped in valuable history of the early Christian 
church, 
The Acts, in essence, is the story of St. Peter, largely responsible for the 
growth 
of the Christian community in the early days, and the missionary journeys of 
St. 
Paul, aka 'the Apostle to the Gentiles'.

As one who grew up with Archie, Veronica, Betty and Jughead and the likes of 
Phantom 
(the ghost who walks!) and Denise the Menace, reading comic books and comic 
strips 
has always been my fascination. Someone once said that a single picture is 
worth a 
thousand words, and how true he was! I may have forgotten the many stories that 
I 
have read ever since I was a boy. But to forget Denise, with Ruff in tow, or 
the 
other comic characters, is simply impossible! That I would one day do Out Of My 
Mind, a regular comic strip for GT, is another story altogether.


[Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrão releasing Devachim Vortim Vismitam.
Fr. Manuel Gomes, Director, Diocesan Centre for Biblical Apostolate, Goa is 
also 
seen]

By the time I could even think of properly thanking Fr. Manuel for the two 
books, he 
had already left and was nowhere in sight. A comic book and that too in Konknni 
warmed the cockles of my heart, and upon reaching Kepem, I began in right 
earnest.

Acts of the Apostles

DVV is the Konknni version of Acts of the Apostles, the comic book prepared by 
Rev. 
Fr. Salvatore Putzu, sdb, and his collaborators in the Word and Life 
Publications, 
Philippines. While Fr. Manuel, who has done the Konknni translation, has been 
spared 
the daunting task of executing the visual frames, his assignment was not easy 
either. To empty the 'dialogue-boxes' and then replace the English words with 
Konknni within the available space, must have been quite a challenge.

'The original comic book was in black and white. But we have made the Konknni 
version still more beautiful by having it in colour,' Fr. Manuel said when I 
got in 
touch with him a week later.

The colours have been selected with much care and Fr. Manuel has done an 
exceptional 
job. From the time the apostles meet to choose Judas' successor to the final 
pages 
where St. Peter is crucified 'upside down' and St. Paul puts his head 'on the 
block' 
to be executed, DVV is one religious comic book which transports you back in 
time, 
to a period when early followers, led by the Holy Spirit, spread the Good News 
'to 
the ends of the earth'.

St. Peter's first miracle, the stoning of Stephen, the dramatic escape of St. 
Paul 
as the  Jews watched the city gates to kill him.all this and more is what you 
find 
inside DVV. Every frame, with an eye for detail, has been painstakingly planned 
and 
illustrated. Interspersed with maps charting out the various journeys of St. 
Paul, 
DVV is appealing and interesting.

Comic Book and More.

The comic book, in fact, is more than a comic book. It stops at regular 
intervals to 
make way for the full text from the scriptures of what one has just seen in the 
'visual' form. While children and gen-next may absorb themselves in the comic 
book 
and skip the text, I thought of enjoying the book, one sip at a time: a part of 
the 
comic followed by some serious reading of the text and then a well-deserved 
break to 
assimilate what I have just 'seen' and read.

This way, I managed to almost read the complete text of Dhormdutancho Itihas 
while 
at the same time enjoying the comic, a spiritual 'exercise' which not only 
lifted my 
spirits and improved my Konknni but found solace in the words of Jesus which 
St. 
Paul 

[Goanet] Manora Vikas Kendra: Reconstruction of Kendra's Community Hall

2009-06-19 Thread Vincy Quadros

NEWS ITEM



Government gives the grant to NGO's to help public.  The new hall at Manora, 
Raia 
would help the community to celebrate their functions and cultural activities. 
Therefore I request the Committee to rent the hall villagers at a subsidized 
rate. 
Said Mr. Francisco Sardinha while speaking as Chief Guest at the function held 
at 
the Community Hall of Manora Vikas Kendra, Manora Raia.



He urged upon the villagers to be united.  The things happening in your 
village, 
should be managed by the villagers and not outsiders.  Although there are 20 
constituencies for me, I will see that this hall is taken up on priority basis 
and 
the people of Raia who have always supported me will never be forgotten.



Manora Vikas Kendra, a registered NGO, working for the upliftment of S.T. 
Community 
of Arlem and Manora had  organized a public meeting to decide on reconstruction 
of 
Kendra's  Community Hall with Balwadi under MPLAD and oppose the new Hall 
proposed 
by Raia Panchayat constructed under GSIDC.

The following details were presented to the public why Kendra's hall is needed 
and 
why there should be a opposition to the new Panchayat Hall at Manora. :

The new Panchayat hall covers all the open space available for parking by Govt. 
Primary School, Balwadi and Ground users.

It will leave no space for the villagers to hold open air ward level cultural 
functions, conventions, Ghumatt competitions, tiatr shows, zagor competitions 
etc.

Gram Sabha of VP Raia has not yet approved their proposal but Kendra has got 
the 
issue resolved at Gram Sabha.

Town and Country Planning has approved the Panchayat Hall construction plan 
which 
leaves no set back to Kendra's existing Community hall and no access to the 
road for 
Balwadi commuters.



It is the only space for recreation for the school and Balwadi children.

Enlargement of our existing Community Hall would help S.T. community to hold 
their 
cultural and personal activities.

MP Mr. Francisco Sardinha has already forwarded Kendra's file to the Collector, 
South Goa with his assent for doing the needful.

General Secretary Mr. Vincy Quadros declared that Hall will be rented to the 
villagers at Subsidised rates and non-profit events will be sponsored free of 
cost.



Around 50 dozen note books of good quality were distributed to students and 
tree 
grafts were distributed to the villagers free of cost.



President of the Kendra Mr. Agostinho Barbosa gave a warm welcome to the crowd 
of 
around 400 people and Arlem ward member Mr. Menino Fernandes proposed vote of 
thanks.  Medical Officer Dr. Succoro Quadros alos spoke on the occasion.  
General 
Secretary Mr. Vincy Quadros compered the entire function.







For MANORA VIKAS KENDRA




(VINCY QUADROS)

General Secretary






Re: [Goanet] International Food Fair

2009-06-19 Thread Alda Figueiredo
Dear Friends

I invite you for the International Food Fair to be held on Sunday 21 June 09 
between 
2pm -6pm at Wealdstone High Street, Harrow.  The idea is to have food from 
around 
the world to raise awareness of the rich diversity within the borough of 
Harrow. 
There will be opportunity to taste food you have not tasted before.  
Participants 
from different communities, community organisations, voluntary organisations, 
restuarants will be taking stalls to provide food and other services to 
publicise 
their countries or organisations.

I too will have a stall to promote Goa and the signing of my cookery book.
Looking forward to seeing you and any support you are able to give by inviting 
your 
family and friends will be much appreciated.

Regards




Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Portugal's seven wonders spark controversy

2009-06-19 Thread tc
Just as I imagained: Too many goans want to deny their portuguese colonialism. 
Why?. 
I have no problem being christian, catholic, having western mannerisms and 
style. 
The indian in me has got me NOWHERE. not in love, not in monetary success; just 
racial backstabbing and inuendo. The western manners and dialect and english 
accent 
has opened doors to physical attraction from the opposite sex, wonderment looks 
and 
comments from white folks... so you see, I have no problem letting the 
portugeuse 
look at GOA as one of theirs, long time ago.

 anthony.




[Goanet] Cricket T20 World Cup Live Streaming

2009-06-19 Thread Vinay Natekar
Those who are not able to  watch T20  World Cup on TV can watch  live streaming 
on 
this site.
http://mywonderfullsite.110mb.com/





Re: [Goanet] [goanet] Extortionate fees

2009-06-19 Thread Tony de Sa
This letter was published in the Herald on 19/06/2009

*Heartless schools
Bosco Vaz, Mapusa*
It has become a heartless routine by certain school managements to collect
donations. A school in Mapusa run by nuns has denied admissions to the
students unless they gave donations towards the school. The parents were
forced to part with a minimum of Rs 5000 to the nuns, or they had to hunt
else where for admissions. I have heard that even the SSC students were
denied hall tickets till their parents gave a donation.
If you have no money there is no need to have a kindergarten in the school.
For whose glory are the nuns running the school which has no playground for
the tiny tots to exercise, and no proper teachers, so much so that many are
forced to go for private tuitions?
---
Sort of vindicates my point?
-- 
tony

Tony de Sa
Ph: +91 832 2470 148
M: +91 9975162897
E:  tonyd...@gmail.com

The future will be better tomorrow. - Dan Quayle


[Goanet] Allopaths/Homeopaths, You Decide.

2009-06-19 Thread eric pinto
 Harvard Medical School funded the scientists to become biologists, and the 
Ingber/Yung duo are content with the title. The pair has devised a way to 
filter germs from the blood of septic patients using nano-size iron beads. The 
particles are coated with antibody that binds with bacteria in the blood. A 
magnetic field is used to draw out the the germ coated beads from the plasma, 
which is then returned to the body.
   Dr. Tonse Raju of the Eunice Kennedy Institute calls the process elegant 
and new, a product of new thinking. 
   Both groups would agree.   eric.





[Goanet] Dalit Christians Calls on Churches to end discrimination

2009-06-19 Thread Marshall Mendonza
 Santosh Helekar:
Since Mr. R. L. Francis is now on Goanet, perhaps, he would like to respond
to the defamatory allegations made against him some time back in this public
forum. Here is the relevant quote and link:R L Francis is an old
disgruntled hand. He has no credibility and no following. He sole claim to
fame is being propped up by the sangh parivar to embarrass the Church from
time to time..Marshall
Mendonzahttp://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg45930.html

 Response:

1. R L Francis is not NEW to Goanet. He has been regularly posting on Goanet
as he has been doing on other internet forums. Please refer following links
for more recent postings:

http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2009-April/authorpost_id=176323

http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2009-March/authorpost_id=175764

http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2009-March/authorpost_id=175099

http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2009-May/authorpost_id=177535

 You can also refer to hindutva websites and forums like
www.Hinduunity.orghttp://www.hinduunity.org/,
www.Sanghparivar.org http://www.sanghparivar.org/,  where many more of his
press releases are littered

http://www.sanghparivar.org/blog/rkm/poor-christian-liberation-movement-slams-church-organisations

 2.Pl refer below posting which was made on Goanet and which has perhaps
escaped your attention.

Posted by: Fr Dominic Emmanuel MangaloreanCatholics at
gmail.comhttp://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.orgFri
May 8, 2009 1:26 am (PDT)

This is absolutely right that R. L. Francis keeps honobbing with Murli
Manohar Joshi, Balbir Punj and came once to my office with his brohter to
bargain with me that if he got more than what he was getting from the RSS,
he would stop attacking the Church.

His economic condition has grown by leaps and bounds after he took over the
Poor Christian Liberation Movement. He keeps changing his cars and flats.
He has no job. His wife works for the government. He is certainly a nuisance
value.

Archbishop Vincent M. Concessao of New Delhi and I have told him several
times to please birng the names and addresses of those Dalits, tribal or
poor children who did not get admission in our schools and we will sort
outthe matter. He has never done it, does not want to do it. For if he does
it, his lie will be exposed and he would not be able to go on with his lies.

I am sorry to say but he has no conscience and there are one or two
disgruntled priests from one or two dioceses, who do not want to put in any
work but want to get plump posts and benefits in the name of being dalits
who he has managed to rope in.

We do not react to him very much because his purpose is to get us excited
and react so that he would be in the news. We are just ignoring him. In one
of his recent press-releases, he called a few of us, who know about his
deeds as Christian Taliban. We ignored him again. But maybe someone needs to
expose him.

I have told him that I am helping even non-Christian dalit children from the
slums of Delhi so please bring any dalit child who is not in school and I
would take care of him/her but to no avail.

Unquote

http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2009-May/authorpost_id=177556

 3.  I  suggest that the poster upgrade his understanding and knowledge
of law relating to defamation lest he continue to embarass himself on public
forums.

4.Regards,

Marshall


[Goanet] My article in Today's Herald : The price of corruption

2009-06-19 Thread Samir Kelekar

Best answer chosen by voters:
Rs.5600/- per month (official)
Rs.15000/- per month perks (unofficial)
Rs.3000/- per month as free food (unofficial)
Rs.3,00,000 per annum ( for not filing half the FIR cases received)

If this is not a case for doubling police salaries, with free decent
accomodation, free higher education for their children and free health for
life with expectation of zero corruption surrounding the whole process
including recruiting in return, then I don't know what is. Obviously the
country can afford it. Just find a way to convert the bribe money in public
hands to govt revenue to pay these people. Ditto for bribes to all other
govt employees.

One has to note that all govt. jobs are permanent. That is, they cannot
be removed from the job generally. Also, policemen get free or highly
subsidized accomodation which is worth a lot especially in a city.

And finally, there is no guarantee that increasing salaries will reduce
corruption. The corruption in the police force as per my knowledge is
from top to bottom. When a policeman takes a bribe, a share goes up to
the very top and probably even to the ministers. So, this corruption system
is very well rooted.

Unless there is a huge campaign to root out corruption beginning with the 
highest authority --- that is the CM, I dont see an easy solution to the 
problem.

regards,
Samir




  


[Goanet] Questions before the Church: the wealth of the religious

2009-06-19 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Barad:
Can Augusto, or anyone, highlight exactly what Kerala and Madhya Pradesh is
trying to do in terms of giving the Christian laity more control on the
church properties?

Response:
The Kerala and MP governments have been trying to 'usurp' / 'control' the
properties of the Church for different reasons.

 In Kerala, the Church is a very powerful institution and is dominant in the
educational sector. It runs a number of schools and colleges in a state
where the literacy levels are almost 100% and where there is a huge demand
for good educational institutions.The Communist govt has been at loggerheads
with the Church since a long time (back to the 1950's) and wants control of
the educational institutions so that they can propagate their ideology and
cut down the influence of the Church.

In MP, the situation is quite different. Here the sangh parivar wants to
exercise control and emasculate the Church in furtherance of its own
ideology and is trying to use the back door method. Neither of the
intentions are clean and transparent.

The Church so far I know, consists of the clergy, the laity and the
institution. There may be glitches in the administration of Church
properties, but to claim that the laity is being empowered is nothing but a
sham.

Regards,

Marshall


[Goanet] living accidentallyn

2009-06-19 Thread Joao Barros-Pereira
*NEWS: Portugal's seven wonders spark controversy*
*Fri Jun 19 13:07:34 PDT 2009*

Just as I imagained: Too many goans want to deny their portuguese
colonialism. Why?. I have no problem being christian, catholic, having
western mannerisms and style.

Joao observes: We are born in some country or other, to some religion or
other, belong to some country or other, follow some religion or other,  and
so on. It's not our fault, nothing to be proud or ashamed of! Most of us are
living accidentally. Let's not take any of this silliness seriously! Let us
glory in our own individuality, creativity, and life! Be authentic, not a
duplicate of somebody of something else. Welcome to the 21st century!
The indian in me has got me NOWHERE. not in love, not in monetary success;
just racial backstabbing and inuendo. The western manners and dialect and
english accent has opened doors to physical attraction from the opposite
sex, wonderment looks and comments from white folks... so you see, I have no
problem letting the portugeuse look at GOA as one of theirs, long time ago.

anthony.


[Goanet] Goan freedom traitors

2009-06-19 Thread Bernado Colaco

I agree with Prince Pandu, the leftovers should not only lose their benefits 
but also be sent to a labour camp for their actions of 61. Their nearest of kin 
should be barred from entering Goa.
 
BC
 
Pandurang wrote:

I mean what have they given us: a culture of endless corruption, sticky greed 
and directionless future. Don't you  agree their benefits should be cut off?





[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (19Jun09)

2009-06-19 Thread alexyz fernandes
***  Goa Revolution Day  ***

Thanks to our Freedom Fighters we've had the Freedom to amass Wealth, Land for 
our 
Families...for Generations to come...


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