[Goanet-News] Goa news for June 28, 2009

2009-06-28 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** No immediate hike in petro prices: Deora - Hindu
mYrbAGoa can tap gas from Dabhol-Bangalore pipeline: Deora
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/28/stories/2009062853530900.htmusg=AFQjCNGsAzyl7x3cViO0ABScBXoI9qTrpQ

*** Goa can be venue for film fetes: CM - Times of India
etails.php?nid=94443usg=AFQjCNGj4tisPCvlxIjGOCMYkYyT7akUvQGoa
hosts Asian Film Festival
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa/Goa-can-be-venue-for-film-fetes-CM-/articleshow/4708256.cmsusg=AFQjCNH7jg-O2Y0onDhJV4NRSjf_vHo0_g

*** Sesa Goa buys Dempo\'s mining - Wall Street Journal
argest acquisition in India's iron ore industry, Sesa Goa, a
subsidiary of London-listed Vedanta Resources, today acquired
Goa-based Dempo ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124477538725409047.html?mod=googlenews_wsjusg=AFQjCNGtdefbuUKZIJ6RGNoiLq1hOIrdCQ

*** The Complete Guide To: Goa - Independent
arket tourist industry: Indian culture is given a Goan twist,
...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/asia/the-complete-guide-to-goa-1720996.htmlusg=AFQjCNGhwR8M-MuxQ1t_Be-bAvlksOTQ0A

*** \'Portuguese wonders\' raise Goa hackles - Calcutta
Telegraph
entury basilica in Goa and a Diu fortress in a list of seven
wonders of Portuguese origin is ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090628/jsp/nation/story_11169090.jspusg=AFQjCNFQjzyW5Uo6W6OHWq53zkqtpKDrPQ

*** Casino operators in Goa booked for alleged cheating - Hindu
nduPANAJI: The Crime Branch of the Goa Police on Saturday
registered a case against the management of Update Recreation
and Gaming Private Limited, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/28/stories/2009062853310800.htmusg=AFQjCNHobcfLMUNPCA8kANIT8RZDLGoNAw

*** Piya replaces Pooja in \'Goa\' - IndiaGlitz
diaGlitzAnd has so opted out of director Venkat Prabhu's 'Goa'.
The film is being produced by Ocher Studios, and has Premji
Amaran, Vaibhav, Jai and Arvind Aakash ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/47914.htmlusg=AFQjCNH8ozCK6zQDenX_aZqQfD11mBIRCQ

*** Goa has failed to attract green industries - Times of
India
mes of IndiaPANAJI: President of the Goa Small Scale Industries
Association (GSSIA), Atul Naik, criticized the government for
lack of policies conducive to industrial ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa-has-failed-to-attract-green-industries/articleshow/4708224.cmsusg=AFQjCNF7PJz8kfdjsQ76ibJmkEcBnSS41w

*** Goa CHCs lack basic c-section facilities - Times of India
otch' healthcare facilities, a recent survey found that 80% of
the community health centres (CHC), ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa-CHCs-lack-basic-c-section-facilities/articleshow/4708605.cmsusg=AFQjCNHshsPrl5adBFZ4Znv3qnOkTdoiGA

*** 30% of Goa\'s poor excluded from BPL - Herald Publications
rald Publications... schemes is highest in Goa and Uttarakhand,
where the Targeted Public Distribution System (TPDS) failed in
targeting up to 30 per cent of the poor. ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?cid=2fd=Rsa=Turl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=23719usg=AFQjCNF-HMKL6ByPiFQbGzL25mBb3vXdUQ


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet-News] Goa news for June 27, 2009

2009-06-28 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa can be venue for film fetes: CM - Times of India
mes of IndiaThe special feature of the SAFF in Goa will be the
screening of 12 Iranian films. The festival will also bring in a
host of films from eight south Asian ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa/Goa-can-be-venue-for-film-fetes-CM-/articleshow/4708256.cmsusg=AFQjCNH7jg-O2Y0onDhJV4NRSjf_vHo0_g

*** IFFI Goa 2009 to get Rs 27 million from IB plan
expenditure - Indiantelevision.com
nd-b-minister-wants-india-on-global-map_1268567usg=AFQjCNH9Ly5Y17OmB_u7mrpeCT1-BodRHwIB
minister wants India on global map
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.indiantelevision.com/aac/y2k9/aac379.phpusg=AFQjCNGyDWf3jEz5K45DosnVdfsnVnCGpw

*** Britons buying land in Goa should abide by law: MP - Times
of India
mes of IndiaPANAJI: Rajya Sabha MP Shantaram Naik in a
statement on Wednesday said that British nationals who have
purportedly purchased properties in Goa have to abide ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Britons-buying-land-in-Goa-should-abide-by-law-MP/articleshow/4698993.cmsusg=AFQjCNF6wjcWFshTZF0VjpfAzgpjQBAmxQ

*** The Complete Guide To: Goa - Independent
arket tourist industry: Indian culture is given a Goan twist,
...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/asia/the-complete-guide-to-goa-1720996.htmlusg=AFQjCNGhwR8M-MuxQ1t_Be-bAvlksOTQ0A

*** Eight Republicans Confirm a Hard-Core Gun Banner -
AmmoLand.com - Shooting Sports News
Shooting Sports NewsLast week, GOA alerted you to the fact that
the whole health care issue has become a Trojan Horse for gun
control, among other things. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ammoland.com/2009/06/26/eight-republicans-confirm-a-hard-core-gun-banner/usg=AFQjCNHoBuHB-Nqjo64Y_jc7jWcvuJjV4g

*** Goa records lowest ever reservoir levels as rains fail -
Environmental Data Interactive
han-ever water levels at its two biggest reservoirs after it
saw a 10cm drop in rainfall last year. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?channel=0fd=Rsa=Ttitle=Goa
records lowest ever reservoir levels as rains
failurl=http://www.edie.net/news/news_story.asp?id=16630usg=AFQjCNGprzpetsKGFzjppn2W52SdBP-Icg

*** There are ways to travel without harming the environment
and Goa ... - Livemint
onscious tourist doesn't mean you have to volunteer to clean up
the world. Simply abide by TripAdvisor.com's green
travel-planner to minimize ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.livemint.com/2009/06/26224618/Go-green.html?h=Busg=AFQjCNFMvXHYy-Preffzcp1LhWDyKGl7IQ

*** Piyaa in Goa - Galatta.com
latta.comPiyaa, is a popular model from Mumbai, who made her
debut in Kollywood with Poi Solla Porom, has been roped in for
Goa directed by Venkat Prabhu. ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://tamil.galatta.com/entertainment/livewire/id/Actress_Piyaa_in_Goa_26948.htmlusg=AFQjCNFioM3ZY6POaJ5iV1TTs6sYAxbHhg

*** Bipasha misses her boyfriend\'s film - Oneindia
Mand more »
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://entertainment.oneindia.in/bollywood/news/2009/bipasha-new-york-screening-260609.htmlusg=AFQjCNHIxY1AUTOUdtPxMT3a2t5OlS7m8w

*** Sesa Goa Limited - Dempo Group mining asset acquisition -
Legal Business Online
gal Business OnlineIndia's largest private iron ore exporter
Sesa Goa Limited, and London listed Vedanta Resources acquires
Dempo Group's mining assets. ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://asia.legalbusinessonline.com/deals/sesa-goa-limited-dempo-group-mining-asset-acquisition/1890usg=AFQjCNEYLuUs58kfRSFOexI-KNnUglNmQw


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] Daily Grook #450

2009-06-28 Thread Francis Rodrigues


DAILY GROOK #450
_

MEAT COMPETE
_
by Francis Rodrigues



my bull by far
is a champ who
is a real star
and meteor too!


_
puns  word-play of all kinds,
hey...read between the lines!
_

_
Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. 
http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621

[Goanet] Goa's freedom fighters

2009-06-28 Thread Bernado Colaco

Dears,

Whatever jc writes is always the truth. Why does jc not produce counter 
information to the link I produced. Even the terror actions of Azad Gomantak 
are false according to this person. jc should worry more about the Raj Bhavan 
colonial rule in Goa rather than Tibet.

BC

Dears,

I wonder when Bernado will stop wasting his time on these 'cuckoo'
hate sites. I hope you remember BC that anybody can write anything
about anybody else .under pseudonyms. They do not need proof to
write junk. Could they not write junk about you and me on those sites?
How will you or I be able to defend ourselves (effectively) against
junk?





Re: [Goanet] CRRI to prepare Goa road map - Comments

2009-06-28 Thread floriano

Panjim: (TOI) Times News Network
June 28, 2009

The state government has requested the Central Road Research Institute, New 
Delhi, to prepare a comprehensive traffic and transportation study for Goa.


Chief minister Digamber Kamat told the media on Saturday that a CRRI team 
will begin their study in Goa in October 2009, submit a preliminary report 
with short-term measures by March 2010 and a final report with measures to 
last till 2030 by December 2010.


Kamat reminded that the government had constituted a task force and declared 
2008 as the year of the road so as to address the problem of road accidents 
in the state. Kamat said, The government saw that road accidents are on the 
rise. A message has to go out that the government is serious about reducing 
accidents in Goa. We therefore need a comprehensive road traffic and 
transportation study for Goa.


Comments:

As much as we agree that something drastic has to be done to save lives on 
the our killer roads,  we do not believe that CRRI will be able to help much 
in Goa, where the will of the government is lacking. If at all, this will be 
another fruitless study/research, the recommendations of which will be 
collecting dust in the corners of the respective offices of the authorities 
concerned,  to be jettisoned out of the windows after each elections and 
change in governments or the  transport ministers. The basic problem is that 
the ordinary traffic policeman is a zombie who does not know the rules of 
the road, and even if he knew, does not bother to correct the violators with 
or without fines. It is a permissive society where roads are free for all. 
If  a conscious citizen takes it on himself to correct/advise the gross 
violator, he takes the brunt through abuses. Therefore one does not want to 
bother with these things even if people died on the roads like flies. If 
this is not frustrating, we don't know what is.


Mr. Digamber Kamat has come up with a novel way of passing the buck on to 
the CRRI's shoulders for him to say to the world What can I do? CRRI is 
entrusted with the job of safeguarding the lives of Goans on the roads and 
go about doing what he is doing best. If there was half the intension to 
stop the killings on the road, Digamber Kamat would have stripped the RTO 
off its pants and paraded it in the public, naked,  for  all to see.  Alas ! 
How can that be done when lacs have changed  hands to dish out the job to 
the RTO? Who is going to stop that?


If Digamber Kamat is serious about governance in Goa, he will take time to 
go through the already prepared versatile Road Map for Goa  by the Goa 
Su-Raj Party with its elaborate chapter VII on Public Transport  R.T.O. at 
Page 57 and seriously take the suggestion that Road Marshalls be appointed 
from among the more conscious citizens  to supplement the Traffic Police 
force.


At best, Digamber Kamat will do well to sack every drunken driver of the 
Kadamba Transport Corporation, to start with.


floriano
goasuraj 



Re: [Goanet] No rationality whatsoever

2009-06-28 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo

A rather silly reply from the voice of truth and reason ... So you too have 
started on the bootlicking business - keep it up. 

As to Times of India report, they don't say who or what colour the attackers 
were, do they? Do they know there are all types in Australia now, not only 
white?  Do they know of issues with Lebanese? Sudanese? Somalians? Maoris? 
Pacific Islanders? No? Why not?



- Original Message 
From: Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, 27 June, 2009 1:09:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] No rationality whatsoever


Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:30:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au

Well, there *were* checks and balances in place pre-Dec 61.

Mario observes:

Hey, Gabriel,

Everyone knows that checks and balances throughout India can be unbalanced by 
some well placed checks, preferably for Pounds or DMs or $.  Before Dec 1961, 
the balance in Goa depended on how good a bootlicker one was, as I'm sure any 
freedom fighter will readily confirm.

So, after the checks and balances that the colonial dictators had imposed to 
subjugate the natives in Goa were removed after 1961, it looks like you decided 
to take your potlis and migrate to a place where Indians are being routinely 
beaten up.  Good choice, Gabriel:-))  I hope no one mistakes you for an Indian 
student.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Indians-Abroad/Indian-student-attacked-in-Melbourne/articleshow/4652254.cms

Excerpt:

A 24-year-old Indian student from Gujarat was attacked by a group of men here, 
the latest in a spate of racial assaults targeting the  
community members in Australia. 

Hardik Bipinbhai Patel, who hails from Surat, was attacked by three people 
while he was about to enter his car here last night. 
[end of excerpt]


  Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere.
Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail


Re: [Goanet] Treatment of British families in Goa

2009-06-28 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo

I bought a house in London without ever having been a British citizen - not 
once, but twice.  I did the same in Australia.  

BTW, were the British passport holders you talk about, British citizens or 
British Protected citizens ? - not that it makes a difference to the argument.

- Original Message 
From: Cajetan Alvares cajul...@googlemail.com
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, 27 June, 2009 6:34:52 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Treatment of British families in Goa

J. Colaco said:
I have been reading these posts about these innocents and how, onthe other
hand, East African Goans were able to buy houses etc in theUK.
-
Well, Hi All,
East African Goans have British Passports. Their Grandfathers had BP.
If the British can give up their British Passport and take Indian
citizenship, they too can buy land in Goa, or any where else in India.
Caitan.



  

Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere.
Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail


[Goanet] In a British Manor, the Mittal Clan.

2009-06-28 Thread eric pinto
One hundred million Pounds was the most ever paid for a residence in Britain. I 
imagine he is familiar with bone china.  Harold Wilson had nationalized British 
Steel, which was then returned to private hands by Margaret Thatcher, as Corus. 
That name may have what attracted Tata attention: their chalet on Naepeansea, 
Bombay, is called the 'Caern.' eric.





[Goanet] Good samaritan Rickshaw driver

2009-06-28 Thread Luis Vas
Hope you have this experience one day



*As received*



*Suvendu Roy of Titan Industries shares his inspirational encounter with a**
**rickshaw driver in Mumbai:*

*Last Sunday, my wife, kid, and I had to travel to Andheri from Bandra. When
I waved at a passing auto rickshaw, little did I expect that this ride would
be any different. As we set off, my eyes fell on a few magazines(kept in an
aircraft style pouch) behind the driver's back rest. I  looked in front and
there was a small TV. The driver had put on the  Doordarshan channel.

My wife and I looked at each other with disbelief and amusement. In front of
me  was a small first-aid box with cotton, dettol and some medicines. This
was  enough for me to realise that I was in a special vehicle. Then I
looked  round
again, and discovered more - there was a radio, fire extinguisher, wall  clock,
calendar, and pictures and symbols of all faiths - from Islam and
Christianity to Buddhism, Hinduism and Sikhism. There were also pictures of
the  heroes of 26/11- Kamte, Salaskar, Karkare and Unnikrishnan. I
realized  that
not only my vehicle, but also my driver was special.

I started chatting with him and the initial sense of  ridicule and  disbelief
gradually diminished. I gathered that he had been driving an auto rickshaw
for the past 8-9 years; he had lost his job  when his employer's  plastic
company was shut down. He had two school-going children, and he drove from 8
in the morning till 10 at night. No break unless he was  unwell. Sahab,
ghar mein baith ke TV  dekh kar kya  faida? Do paisa income karega toh
future mein kaam  aayega.

We realised that we had come across a man who represents Mumbai – the spirit
of work, the spirit of travel and the spirit of excelling in life. I asked
him whether he does anything else as I figured that he did not have too much
spare time. He said that he goes to an old age home for women in Andheri
once a week or whenever he has some extra income, where he donates tooth
brushes, toothpastes, soap, hair oil, and other items of daily use. He
pointed out to a painted message below the meter that read: 25 per cent
discount on metered fare for the handicapped. Free rides for blind  passengers
up to Rs. 50.

My wife and I were struck with awe. The man was a HERO! A hero who deserves
all our respect. Our journey came to an end; 45 minutes of a lesson in
humility, selflessness, and of a hero-worshipping Mumbai, my temporary home.
We disembarked, and all I could do was to pay him a tip that would hardly cover
a free ride for a blind man.*

*I hope, one day, you too have a chance to meet Mr Sandeep  in his auto
rickshaw: MH-02-Z-8508.*


Re: [Goanet] Treatment of British families in Goa

2009-06-28 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या
2009/6/28 Eddie Fernandes ed...@fernandes.u-net.com


 and registered the Government should not act retrospectively.  Gabe Menezes
 has provided the Cidade de Goa instance as an example of local thinking.


You guys talk about local thinking. But what about expat thinking?

Isn't it strange that nobody sheds a single tear for the many Goans-in-Goa
who can't afford to buy a home after working hard their full life here? And
the expat/foreigner/non-resident buying of homes is only pushing up
speculation (not need-based buying) in the unreal real estate sector.

It all says something about our attitudes, values, and which side we choose
to take! FN


Re: [Goanet] Good samaritan Rickshaw driver

2009-06-28 Thread eric pinto
  As we partied around the globe, my brothers and I abandoned our grandmother 
in a 'Home' in Andheri.  She is not around, any longer, but when my turn 
arrives, I hope the angel of mercy shows up with more than just hair oil - in a 
nip sized flask.
  Do feel free to read between the lines. eric.

--- On Sun, 6/28/09, Luis Vas luissr...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Luis Vas luissr...@gmail.com
Subject: [Goanet] Good samaritan Rickshaw driver

 He said that he goes to an old age home for women in Andheri
once a week or whenever he has some extra income, where he donates tooth
brushes, toothpastes, soap, hair oil, and other items of daily use. He
pointed out to a painted message below the meter that read: 25 per cent
discount on metered fare for the handicapped. Free rides for blind  passengers
up to Rs. 50.

My wife and I were struck with awe. The man was a HERO! A hero who deserves
all our respect. Our journey came to an end; 45 minutes of a lesson in
humility, selflessness, and of a hero-worshipping Mumbai, my temporary home.
We disembarked, and all I could do was to pay him a tip that would hardly cover
a free ride for a blind man.*








Re: [Goanet] In a British Manor, the Mittal Clan.

2009-06-28 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या
What is a cairn? Is it a pile of stones, usually as a monument or marker?

QUOTE A caern is a natural upwelling of Gnosis, the spiritual energies
of Gaia, used by the Garou to power their gifts. UNQUOTE

2009/6/28 eric pinto ericpin...@yahoo.com
One hundred million Pounds was the most ever paid for a residence in
Britain. I imagine he is familiar with bone china.  Harold Wilson had
nationalized British Steel, which was then returned to private hands
by Margaret Thatcher, as Corus. That name may have what attracted Tata
attention: their chalet on Naepeansea, Bombay, is called the 'Caern.'
   eric.
--
FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/fn
M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490
http://fredericknoronha.multiply.com/ http://goa1556.goa-india.org
What a difference there is between a wise man and a fool. - Terence, Eunuchus


Re: [Goanet] Freedom Fighters

2009-06-28 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Jose Colaco:
BTW Marshall, Where did you find this info that Nehru was a 'sick man' soon
after the Indo-China war?. Wasn't the event which culminated in his death in
1964, a sudden one?

Response:
After so many years I am unabIe to pinpoint the exact source. Whenever I
have time, I will try and trace the source. However, I recollect reading in
either Lt Gen B M Kaul's (The Untold Story) or M O Mathai's (My days with
Nehru) or maybe M C Chagla's(Roses in December) or Brig John Dalvi's
(Himalayan Blunder) book that the Chinese invasion took Nehru completely by
surprise especially after all that Hindi-Chini bhai- bhai stuff after the
Panchasheel declaration. The utter defeat of the Indian army and the loss of
territory to the Chinese broke Nehru's spirit. He was not his normal self
after that and was a broken man. He slowly deteriorated in health and mind
which culminated in his death in 1964. The exact cause of his death is
neither here nor there and he well have died from a heart failure. I am open
to correction.

Regards,

Marshall


[Goanet] Selma Carvalho: Who the bleep cares about dinner with Eduardo Faleiro?

2009-06-28 Thread Eddie Fernandes

Headline: Who the bleep cares about dinner with Eduardo Faleiro?
BY: Selma Carvalho
From: Goan Voice UK 28 June 2009 at http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/


What do you do when the NRI Commissioner and former Federal Minister calls
you up and invites you to dinner? You fall over the chair you are sitting on
and babble a yes.

My first call was to Eddie Fernandes, editor of Goan Voice UK. There were
important matters of state to discuss such as why did Mr Faleiro invite me?
Granted calling up London from Goa to discuss my dinner date is a bit over
the top, but then Eddie seems to spend his time with his ear to the ground
and might have some background information.  He did!

My next call was to Goa's veteran journalist Lenin. Goan parents have a
penchant for naming either their first born sons or their dogs after
dictators such as Salazar and Stalin. This wasn't the case with Lenin's
parents. I have merely changed the name to protect his identity. Lenin has
been trailing politicos for the past 30 years or so, surely he would know
what sort of conversation is expected on these occasions. Be forthright,
tell him what's on your mind advises Lenin. I dismiss this as bad advice.
No man in his right mind wants to spend an entire evening listening to a
full-blooded Shastikann like me.

What could we talk about? If Micky Pacheco had invited me, we could have
discussed how a Minister can win 1.25 crores at a hotel casino. If Churchill
had invited me, we could have talked about how to project oneself as the
great Chardo hope of Salcete. But this was erudite, well-spoken Eduardo
Faleiro, whose list of previously held political portfolios is as long as my
arm. Still, didn't my mother send me to the best school her petro-dollars
could buy? Didn't she hire me a private piano teacher to tutor me at home
even when it became painfully obvious to him and our neighbours that I was
tone-deaf?  Didn't she teach me to suppress my abundant gay laughter and
enthusiasm because well-bred girls in Goa are supposed to look anaemic and
depressed at all times? All of that must have been preparation for something
or the other.

How do I impress Mr Faleiro? I could tell him I'm a Gulfie but that word has
a fie attached to it, which sounds derogatory. I could tell him that I'm a
US-return, but that has return attached to it. NRIs only have value if
they actually reside outside of Goa. Much like a Honda city car, they
depreciate 50% upon return. I'll tell him I'm a Londonkar. That sounds so
much like bhatkar and Afrikar which still garners some respect in Goa.

I arrive early at the house. The house speaks just one language; that of
history. Of generations who have live here before and loved the land; of
women who have sat on the brick-red sopas as twilight set in, swapped
stories about the day and waited for their men to return; of men who have
walked up the winding path which cuts a natural swathe through the village,
returning home, glorious and powerful.

I find Mr Faleiro in the study; a spacious, dignified room, stacked with
bookshelves, its vaulted ceiling and imposing walls peering down on me. What
was I doing here? Me, grand-daughter of Joaquim Santan Purification Cardoz.
Was it too late to become a theist and wish that Purification was watching
me from above? A generation ago, the likes of me would only have been
admitted through the kitchen door, preferably carrying a pail of water on my
head. The weight of centuries of a social divide was pinning me to the
ground. 

As the evening wears on, I find myself genuinely liking Mr Faleiro. He wears
charm and breeding like a second skin. He's an excellent raconteur of
stories, animatedly regaling us with anecdotes that span from Bhutan to
Brazil. He's got that rare thing, which women find attractive, a
self-deprecating sense of humour and an understanding of human frailty. He
is the last of a generation that came back from Portugal, just prior to
liberation with an earnest desire to make a difference to the country that
was home. The fact that we, Goan Catholics, have not produced another
generation like him to represent our interests politically is perhaps our
greatest failing. 

Do leave your feedback at carvalho_...@yahoo.com

=




Re: [Goanet] Freedom Fighters

2009-06-28 Thread J. Colaco jc
Marshall Mendonza wrote

[1] the Chinese invasion took Nehru completely by surprise especially
after all that Hindi-Chini bhai- bhai stuff after the
Panchasheel declaration. The utter defeat of the Indian army and the
loss of territory to the Chinese broke Nehru's spirit. He was not his
normal self after that and was a broken man.

[2] He slowly deteriorated in health and mind which culminated in his
death in 1964.

[3] The exact cause of his death is neither here nor there and he well
have died from a heart failure. I am open
to correction.

==
jc comment:

Marshall is quite correct about #1, but not so about # 2.

re #3; The death was following an acute (sudden) event. The term
heart failure is too general, but this is not the forum for a
discussion on that topic.

Having said that, allow me to say this: Nehru was guided by his
side-kick, the lefty Krishna Menon. Nehru was also a politician who
(like ALL politicians) did everything (including make ANY promises) to
get what he wanted. The invasion of Goa was part of the political
expediency at the time. Anytime a governing party is at risk of losing
an election, expect a war or some anti-other religion nonsense, a
bogus VideoCD, or the laying of foundation stones for projects which
have not a farthing's chance of commencing in the next 10 years.

While Nehru may have made that speech about 'wanting to preserve the
identity of Goa', he did absolutely nothing to ensure that. If  he was
serious about it - he would have organised it in the ANNEXATION
document itself. But, he did not. Now, if Marshall knows otherwise for
sure, I am open to correction.

BTW: Goa Freedom Fighter, journalist and author, the now late Lino
Leitão had something to say about that this in  his piece on TGF.
http://www.colaco.net/1/nizgoemcar.htm

jc


[Goanet] I'm a victim of racism in India: Mizoram CM

2009-06-28 Thread Marshall Mendonza
 SINGAPORE: At a time when India is strongly protesting racist attacks on
its citizens in Australia, Mizoram chief minister Pu Lalthanhawla handed it  a
first-rate embarrassment by saying at an international meet that Indians are
themselves racist. ( Watch
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videoshow/4703005.cms)

‘‘I am a victim of racism,’’ the CM said at a seminar on water in Singapore,
leaving his fellow delegates red-faced. Back home, however, Congress
defended the CM saying his ‘‘nationalist’’ credentials were beyond doubt.

Lalthanhawla said at the meet, ‘‘In India, people ask me if I am an Indian.
When I go to south (India), people ask me such questions. They ask me if I
am from Nepal or elsewhere. They forget that the Northeast is part of
India...I have told many that ‘See, I am an Indian like you’.’’

He then proceeded to detail the racial make-up of the country. ‘‘Indians
consist of three races — Dravidians, Aryans and we in the Northeast,’’ he
said.

Though the remarks are likely to strike a chord among people of the
Northeast who often face discrimination in other parts of the country, their
timing and the fact that they were made at an international forum have left
the government embarrassed.

The CM’s fellow delegates at the conference too were not amused at the
remarks. ‘‘This is unfair. We Indians are always divided and this is visible
in a water event too. Many Australians must be feeling happy here,’’ a
delegate said.

Despite unhappiness over the remarks in the government, the Congress chose
to stand by the CM. ‘‘Lalthanhawla, who stepped down as chief minister in
favour of Laldenga after the 1986 Mizoram accord, is an out-and-out
nationalist,’’ party spokesman Manish Tiwari said.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/I-too-am-a-victim-of-racism-but-in-India-Mizoram-CM/articleshow/4701327.cms


Re: [Goanet] Good samaritan Rickshaw driver

2009-06-28 Thread Roland Francis
Thanks for that narration Luis Vas.

Bombay has always been a city that can surprise you when you least
expect it, like it did to newcomer Suvendu Roy.

But for those who were born and lived in the city for more than a few
years, it would be difficult not to have experienced the generosity of
Mumbaikars both collective and individual.

It would take more than one post to describe that effervescent quality
but here are two  instances of my own.

My mother when she decided to live in a seniors facility, chose one
that is run by Catholic nuns of a medical order in Jogeshwari, a
western suburb of the city. The area around the St Joseph's Home for
the Elderly is populated mostly by Gujaratis. They will come on
weekends and even weekdays and bring their delicious khamand-dokras,
patras, lilva kachoris, their kandvis and their tasty Gujju meals.
They come un-ostentatiously, and consider it a favor that the nuns
accept their food on behalf of the residents, rather than the favor
the other way around. On their feast days they will out do themselves.
After they go to their temples, they will come to the Home and give to
the residents as if they are giving to their own parents. Even the
neighborhood Lions Clubs take every opportunity to organize programs
and events that make the residents happy and give them a much needed
break from the usual atmosphere of the Home. Never once do the
generous Gujaratis consider that the residents are Catholic and Goan
and they Gujarati and Hindu.

My mum was a nurse and having lived and practised nursing in Bombay
for long, knew most of the eminent specialists of the time. When
relatives and people referred by other people in Goa and elsewhere,
came to mum and asked her to help them get the best treatment
notwithstanding their limited resources, mum would take them to these
doctors and then mention to them that these people could not pay much.
In those days their consultation fee used to a hundred rupees. After
that it was no further expense. Since these specialists were attached
as honoraries to the Govt Hospitals they would get operated there for
free and in addition get the best drugs and treatment since their were
Dr. XXX's patients. When mum would ask how much they should pay, the
generous doctors would say whatever they are able to give. Often that
would be a ten rupee note handed in an envelope to the secretary. It
was a custom for the secretary never to tell the doctor what was given
and the doctor even if he knew, would never treat that patient any
different.

Bombay is a city different from any other. Once not too long ago,
there was a bond that held Mumbaikars together. It was the
understanding that they had all come to the city for a better life and
that each one's struggles were no different from the other. Perhaps in
intensity but not in type. There was an intense human bond on a
one-to-one level. Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Sikh, Parsi or Jew was for
your own home and your own community. On a public level that mattered
little. They were all from one God.

I know that having become much richer now, Bombay has changed. But
every now and then, as with your Mr Sandeep story, the old Bombay
refuses to die.

Roland.



On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Luis Vasluissr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hope you have this experience one day
 *Suvendu Roy of Titan Industries shares his inspirational encounter with a**
 **rickshaw driver in Mumbai:*

 My wife and I were struck with awe. The man was a HERO! A hero who deserves
 all our respect. Our journey came to an end; 45 minutes of a lesson in
 humility, selflessness, and of a hero-worshipping Mumbai, my temporary home.
 We disembarked, and all I could do was to pay him a tip that would hardly 
 cover
 a free ride for a blind man.*

 *I hope, one day, you too have a chance to meet Mr Sandeep  in his auto
 rickshaw: MH-02-Z-8508.*



[Goanet] Good samaritan Rickshaw driver

2009-06-28 Thread Venantius Pinto
I believe this piece, would like to know where it appeared and wonder
whether it also doubled up as a PR piece.

What is worth some reflection upon is the bit where Suvendu Roy of Titan
Industries says I started chatting with him and the initial sense of
 ridicule and disbelief gradually diminished. This is a such a persistent
quality in us Indians, where does it come from and where does it go. But its
is good to hear even someone state this out loud, his sense of ridicule. Its
a pecuniary quality that is common to many of us, and is spelled out well
in the book Being Indian by Pavan K. Varma.

Also the bit about the rider attempting to make sense of this persons dharma
both in its humanity and business methodology, as in, We realised that we
had come across a man who represents Mumbai ? the spirit of work, the spirit
of travel and the spirit of excelling in life. I asked
him whether he does anything else as I figured that he did not have too much
spare time. Very little basis to make the claim, but eminently acceptable
when one does not know how this bienseance came together--as in sense of
propriety.

Complex analogies will mostly come from the masses. To make analogies and
connections that aid or abet in how ones sees oneself amidst the changes
that occur around us requires a different mingling as well as soiling of the
mind. These changes have to be grappled with as the country gets sold to the
largest bidder. One must also remember that during the Emergency the elites,
the educated, the business houses, and ones with good jobs all supported it.
It was people like my Dad who managed to flee from a sterilization van on a
Mumbai street after escaping but not without staring in the face the spectre
of Shri Vasectomy or should that be Bhesechthomy. We have all ended up on
various paths, and truly with vastly different experiences. Dad must be
smiling--in fact howling with laughter in the form of a cloud while we
debate global warming. Man this is funny. I wish my brothers woudl howl with
laughter too at whatever comes in their path. Coudl say more but must stop
before I get too martial, contra-religious, or even pleasantly sexual--and
risk this post not making it to Goanet. But life is short and waking on the
razors edge is an art.

Only those who can see outside our censorious existence while living within
it, can create a different head space. Those in our higher institutes or
education are not taught to see. It comes from within and in some cases a
bit of it may be taught--as in a course on Social Change. I believe as a
non-psychologist the Miller Analogies Test was applied on the streets of
Mumbai, the answers will be devastating emotionally to those who believe in
their superiority for a myriad of reasons. BTW, the largest employer in
India is not the Indian Railways but the streets and by lanes of the
country.

venantius j pinto


 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:38:31 +0530
 From: Luis Vas luissr...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Goanet] Good samaritan Rickshaw driver

 Hope you have this experience one day

 *As received*

 *Suvendu Roy of Titan Industries shares his inspirational encounter with
 a**
 **rickshaw driver in Mumbai:*




[Goanet] Adv. Satish Sonak wecome speech on May 24 2009 We Love Ayurveda

2009-06-28 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE

Adv. Satish Sonak

I shall not take much of your time I stand here to salute memories of late 
Dada Vidya who could have been termed as a father of Ayuvedic formulation of 
Goa I also stand here to salute the memories of late Dr. Sarojini Dahanukar  
who was daughter of Goa  and very effective ambassador of India in the field of 
Ayurveda to the world and I stand here to welcome as instructed by the convener 
of this program shri Shrikant Barve stand here to welcome not the individual of 
u who gather over here, but glad to representative thought in their mind 
whatever comes from our tradition has to be welcome, the challenge before us 
today friends ladies and gentleman is to retain that traditionality and at the 
same time not merely saying that the old is gold and therefore it has to be …. 
It has to survive on the text tone on modern scientific enquiry how do we do 
this, what are our strengths what r our weaknesses, we have to make an 
realistic assessment of both this
 factors and it is to welcome these assessments that is stand over here it’s a 
great tradition of India Ayurveda but that not the end of it, I do not stand 
here knonly as a personates just because it is our nations pride there for I 
welcome it … in science and medicine or a medicine and patriotism is very 
dangers combination, science and patriots is very dangers combination yet at 
the same time u have to realize that the most dangers combination is that 
inferiority complex and science, if something belongs to our nation r we going 
to reject it no it is Indian made in India it must useless and takaldu r we 
going to take that attitude, just because it is Indian r u reject it, if it has 
a foreign brand if it has made in China or it was made in Japan or in America 
would your hands go on salute, it is this infeririarity complex that we have to 
freed out and for that purpose perhaps we have to go to roots of ayurveda, here 
the scenario in Goa is we are the
 emerging pharmaceutical hub Goa is emerging pharmaceutical hub  it is the 
emerging pharmaceutical capital of country and yet in this country what is the 
medical scenario that is there friends latest statistical ratio I am 
restricting myself for few small statistics recently news papers  reported how 
much Goa Govt. spent on a doctor who emerged out from Goa Medical College 77 
lacs and 44 thousand rupees are the money that is spent on per doctor proper 
allopathic doctor who comes out of Goa Medical College and 95% out of these 
doctors and it is fact that refuse to join Government service weather this 
expenditure is wasteful or it is an investment I will not comment on it but my 
humble submission would be is substantial part of this budget could be diverted 
in the field of  ayurveda were people will be reaching I think much could be 
done I think spending 77 lacs and 44 thousand per doctor what is the scenario 
that comes, in Goa Medical College there are 56
 vacancies which are not filled up, today primary health centers of Goa there 
are 80 vacancies which are not filled up, they will say that we are not getting 
local talents and a local doctors where did you equate a local talent and a 
local doctor only within allopathic doctor why this untouchablility  for 
ayurveda why this allergy for our own Indian system, these are some of the 
question that had to welcome in our minds, our country is govern by 
constitution of India and in its Part IV which deals for directive principles 
of state policies in article 47 which says “THE DEVELOPMENT OF PRIMARY HEALTH 
IS THE FUNDAMENTAL DUTY OF THE STATE”  in admitting this fundamental duty 
ayuveda will have to play great role, it is not that the every sickness that 
comes we have to rush to doctors can’t we have some self  relief,  ??? she is 
not relaying on our nationality, it is relaying in your own strength your own 
resources what is there within you, the
 prevention of the disease not digging up the well when you are thirsty, all 
this things can be done we need an attitude we need self confidence more then 
anything else, friends as a nation, as citizen as individual we need self 
respect and this self respect and one of the medium of  self respect is 
ayurveda. Ayurveda is respecting your own body it is respecting your own mind 
its is respecting your own nation it is respecting yourself you have to love 
yourself  therefore all are welcome in this ‘WE LOVE AYURVEDA’ we have today 
eminent personalities Dr. Suraj Kanekar will be moderating Dr. Vivek Shanbhag 
will be there Dr. Anil Panse will be there Dr. Nilesh Korde will be there Dr. 
Ashish Phadke will be there shri Rajendra Amonkar will be there these who in 
ayurveda today I welcome to all this is a family gathering well come all of you 
gathered here

Shrikant Vinayak Barve
Convener: We Love Ayurved
9403175973


  ICC World Twenty20 England #39;09 exclusively on YAHOO! CRICKET 
http://cricket.yahoo.com


Re: [Goanet] 25th June 1975, Imposition of Emergency - India's Most Infamous Day

2009-06-28 Thread Naguesh Bhatcar

Marshall,
How can you absolve Indira Gandhi?Whatever your take on this, ultimately it was 
Indira Gandhi the Prime Minister, who was responsiblefor whatever that took 
place during the emergency --sterilisations or whatever else, that werethe 
excesses of the emergency era. If you now want to say that only Sanjay Gandhi 
was the troublemaker,he was then being hailed as the hero and Indira Gandhi 
never pulled him up.
Also, if you remember, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court A.N.Ray, was 
appointed by Indira Gandhi, bypassingthe top 3 - Hegde, Shelat and Grover. 
Indira Gandhi had tried every which way to bypass the Constitution. Whywould 
she not get favourable ruling? The emergency was not for a month or two, but 21 
months of hell.
Also, you seem to have sidetracked the issue of Operation Blue Star, which I 
had mentioned in my previousresponse to your original posting. The Congress 
Party is yet to apologize to the Sikh families that were impactedby the 
killings, during the 1984 riots.
Naguesh Bhatcar
sgbhat...@hotmail.com





 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:52:48 +0530
 From: mmendonz...@gmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] 25th June 1975, Imposition of Emergency - India's Most 
 Infamous Day
 
 Naguesh Bhatcar:
 Indira Gandhi was left with no choice. She had violated the constitution to
 stay in power and was under pressure from the entire world.
 
 Response:
 It is incorrect to say that Indira Gandhi violated the constitution. In fact
 the Supreme Court upheld the imposition of emergency.
 There are instances all over the world where dictators after usurping
 absolute power have refused to let go. Indira Gandhi, to the best of my
 knowledge, was under no pressure or compulsion from foreign sources although
 her actions met with general disapproval from the democratic world. It was
 basically internal compulsions caused by excesses like mass sterialisation,
 demolition of houses, stifling of dissent, imprisonment of those opposed to
 her, curbs on freedom of speech etc. which forced her to hold elections. I
 do agree with you that it was a good thing that she, Sanjay Gandhi as well
 as the Congress Party lost the elections. It brought them back down to earth
 and realise the power of the people.
 
 Naguesh Bhatcar:
 And please remember that Sonia and Maneka Gandhi were then the dear
 daughters-in-law ofIndira Gandhi!
 
 Respomse:
 Regarding Sonia and Maneka, it is common knowledge that Sonia was never into
 politics at that time. However, Maneka was very active and edited a magazine
 called Surya which ran articles and stories which would make many an
 opposition leaders's ears burn. Maneka fully supported her husband Sanjay
 Gandhi in all his activities. Rather than Indira, it was Sanjay Gandhi who
 was more hated by the people for his brash ways. Today Maneka and Varun are
 leading lights of the BJP. Varun even evoked admiration and applause for his
 hate speech in Pilibhit from the sangh parivar. That it backfired in
 retrospection, is another matter.
 
 Regards,
 
 Marshall


Re: [Goanet] Treatment of British families in Goa

2009-06-28 Thread J. Colaco jc
I believe that both Eddie and Frederick are making very valid points -
which do not have to be mutually exclusive.

Eddie's first point is an universally accepted (in democratic
countries) that a Law should not penalise a person for an act done (in
good faith) before the law (which now places sanctions against it)
came into effect.

Eddie's second point is not necessarily in tandem with the first - as
'grandfathering' is different from 'penalising'.

FN's point is also one which is discussed and dissected all over the
world where the local (tax paying and working the soil)  population
are disadvantaged by the greed of the speculators and investors. These
alleged 'investments'  do not necessarily benefit the locals
commensurate to the amount the locals are expected to pay in terms of
the increase in the cost of living and cost of owning a simple home.

FN makes a very good needs-based-buying point.

I personally believe that Goans need to look again at those tourist
facilities which inordinately push the cost of staple food (eg Fish)
out of the reach of the 'sons of the soil' who toil on the soil, and
also this speculative Second or Third Homes stuff which are built by
destroying the Goan greenery and environment.

I was appalled when I last saw the concrete poured in an ugly format -
all over Calangute to Baga, Betim and Verem, Bambolim and Navelim. (I
am sure there are other areas of wanton destruction).

Some countries have 'equalised' the economic balance by increasing the
taxation on non-resident or non-primary homes. They have also
increased the taxes payable on homes owned by non-nationals.

They have then ploughed back these taxes into the local economy and
infrastructure eg roads, hospitals, schools etc..

Taxes on non-resident owned or non-primary-residence property can
legally be increased at any time - as long as the taxes are not
retrospective. The non-primary residence-tax will affect ALL
speculators including Goans.

Wonder how many politicians will go along with this measure.

Unless the voters demand it and the journos keep them adequately
and repeatedly informed of their rights.

But then !


jc





[1] Eddie Fernandes wrote that:  the Government should not act
retrospectively.

[2] Eddie also noted that:Gabe Menezes  has provided the Cidade de Goa
instance as an example of local thinking.

[3] Frederick [FN] Noronha wrote: the expat/foreigner/non-resident
buying of homes is only pushing up speculation (not need-based buying)
in the unreal real estate sector.


[Goanet] Indian heatwave other news

2009-06-28 Thread Olga Maciel

India heat wave sparks protests 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8123012.stm

Schools closed in India heat wave 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8121177.stm
India plans hot chilli grenades 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8119591.stm
Week in pictures: 20-26 June 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8121054.stm

Life in pictures: Michael Jackson 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8119974.stm
 
 
Olga Maciel
_
Get the best of MSN on your mobile
http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/

Re: [Goanet] Adv. Satish Sonak wecome speech on May 24 2009 We Love Ayurveda

2009-06-28 Thread Santosh Helekar

When it comes to human health and safety, patriotism, nationalism, ideology and 
politics should play no role. Economics should play only a secondary role. It 
is should be primarily, if not entirely, about how best to prevent and cure 
illness, and promote health. If the providers of a preventive or therapeutic 
approach cannot validate it using modern rational and empirical methods, and 
proper statistical tests then it should not be accepted as an alternative 
method by any public health institution. The only exceptions to this would be 
when an illness is shown by standard scientific tests to be substantially 
psychological, intractable or terminal.

Cheers,

Santosh


--- On Sun, 6/28/09, SHRIKANT BARVE shri8...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Adv. Satish Sonak
 
 I shall not take much of your time 
    I stand here to salute memories of late
 Dada Vidya who could have been termed as a father of
 Ayuvedic formulation of Goa I also stand here to salute the
 memories of late Dr. Sarojini Dahanukar  who was
 daughter of Goa  and very effective ambassador of India
 in the field of Ayurveda to the world and I stand here to
 welcome as instructed by the convener of this program shri
 Shrikant Barve stand here to welcome not the individual of u
 who gather over here, but glad to representative thought in
 their mind whatever comes from our tradition has to be
 welcome, the challenge before us today friends ladies and
 gentleman is to retain that traditionality and at the same
 time not merely saying that the old is gold and therefore it
 has to be …. It has to survive on the text tone on modern
 scientific enquiry how do we do this, what are our strengths
 what r our weaknesses, we have to make an realistic
 assessment of both this
  factors and it is to welcome these assessments that is
 stand over here it’s a great tradition of India Ayurveda
 but that not the end of it, I do not stand here knonly as a
 personates just because it is our nations pride there for I
 welcome it … in science and medicine or a medicine and
 patriotism is very dangers combination, science and patriots
 is very dangers combination yet at the same time u have to
 realize that the most dangers combination is that
 inferiority complex and science, if something belongs to our
 nation r we going to reject it no it is Indian made in India
 it must useless and takaldu r we going to take that
 attitude, just because it is Indian r u reject it, if it has
 a foreign brand if it has made in China or it was made in
 Japan or in America would your hands go on salute, it is
 this infeririarity complex that we have to freed out and for
 that purpose perhaps we have to go to roots of ayurveda,
 





Re: [Goanet] Goa's freedom fighters

2009-06-28 Thread J. Colaco jc
 Bernado Colaco wrote:

[1] Why does jc not produce counter information to the link I produced.
[2] Even the terror actions of Azad Gomantak are false according to
this person.
[3] jc should worry more about the Raj Bhavan colonial rule in Goa
rather than Tibet.


Dear Bernado,

When someone makes a charge - as one made in that
forums/blah_blah_blah link you posted, the only way I will believe the
stuff therein, IS when the stuff is corroborated. Otherwise, anybody
will write anything about anybody and ask that person to prove the
negative.

It is like asking someone in court (albeit the court of public
opinion): Prove that you have stopped beating your wife!
Would you be able to provide a link to that effect?

I am not sure if you did comprehend what I wrote about the accusations
against the Azad Gomantak Dal.

 I am not saying that the Dal members were innocent. All I am saying
is that (a) one needs solid proof to believe (b) One does not need
undocumented stories to understand that the Azad Gomantak Dal
conducted violent acts against civilian Goans esp WHEN the members
themselves have acknowledged their violent actions as per the Heraldo.

I brought up Tibet because you brought up the Chinese invasion (of
India). Now that you are Chinese, (Macau is Chinese, right) I thought
you were in the best position to advise us about the Chinese invasion
of Tibet.

May be you are, May be you are not; Or ...you'd rather talk bad
just about India., right?

I suggest that IF you wish to discuss about recent Invasions .in
that region You discuss ALL the invasions.

As I said in a previous post: If you are going to wash clothes at the
laundromat,  Wash ALL the dirty linen in public. Not just selective
ones. Only folks with an agenda or those who are not too collective,
do that.

jc



Earlier BC wrote on 2009/6/27

 http://www.jatland.com/forums/blah_blah_blah

Please read the link about your friend nehru. Do you know why china
invaded bharat?


Re: [Goanet] Freedom Fighters

2009-06-28 Thread Alfred de Tavares

Was'nt it in 1963 Nehru died?

 

AT
 
 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:44:54 +0530
 From: mmendonz...@gmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Freedom Fighters
 
 Jose Colaco:
 BTW Marshall, Where did you find this info that Nehru was a 'sick man' soon
 after the Indo-China war?. Wasn't the event which culminated in his death in
 1964, a sudden one?
 
 Response:
 After so many years I am unabIe to pinpoint the exact source. Whenever I
 have time, I will try and trace the source. However, I recollect reading in
 either Lt Gen B M Kaul's (The Untold Story) or M O Mathai's (My days with
 Nehru) or maybe M C Chagla's(Roses in December) or Brig John Dalvi's
 (Himalayan Blunder) book that the Chinese invasion took Nehru completely by
 surprise especially after all that Hindi-Chini bhai- bhai stuff after the
 Panchasheel declaration. The utter defeat of the Indian army and the loss of
 territory to the Chinese broke Nehru's spirit. He was not his normal self
 after that and was a broken man. He slowly deteriorated in health and mind
 which culminated in his death in 1964. The exact cause of his death is
 neither here nor there and he well have died from a heart failure. I am open
 to correction.
 
 Regards,
 
 Marshall

_
Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx

[Goanet] Goa news for June 29, 2009

2009-06-28 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** No immediate hike in petro prices: Deora - Hindu
ay-hike-petrol-diesel-prices/articleshow/4711343.cmsusg=AFQjCNEDkE-W1D75IOz2lo3heXNXVxoSbwCentre
may hike petrol, diesel prices
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/28/stories/2009062853530900.htmusg=AFQjCNGsAzyl7x3cViO0ABScBXoI9qTrpQ

*** Goa can be venue for film fetes: CM - Times of India
etails.php?nid=94443usg=AFQjCNGj4tisPCvlxIjGOCMYkYyT7akUvQGoa
hosts Asian Film Festival
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa/Goa-can-be-venue-for-film-fetes-CM-/articleshow/4708256.cmsusg=AFQjCNH7jg-O2Y0onDhJV4NRSjf_vHo0_g

*** Sesa Goa buys Dempo\'s mining - Wall Street Journal
argest acquisition in India's iron ore industry, Sesa Goa, a
subsidiary of London-listed Vedanta Resources, today acquired
Goa-based Dempo ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124477538725409047.html?mod=googlenews_wsjusg=AFQjCNGtdefbuUKZIJ6RGNoiLq1hOIrdCQ

*** The Complete Guide To: Goa - Independent
arket tourist industry: Indian culture is given a Goan twist,
...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/asia/the-complete-guide-to-goa-1720996.htmlusg=AFQjCNGhwR8M-MuxQ1t_Be-bAvlksOTQ0A

*** Casino operators in Goa booked for alleged cheating - Hindu
nduPANAJI: The Crime Branch of the Goa Police on Saturday
registered a case against the management of Update Recreation
and Gaming Private Limited, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/28/stories/2009062853310800.htmusg=AFQjCNHobcfLMUNPCA8kANIT8RZDLGoNAw

*** \'Portuguese wonders\' raise Goa hackles - Calcutta
Telegraph
entury basilica in Goa and a Diu fortress in a list of seven
wonders of Portuguese origin is ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090628/jsp/nation/story_11169090.jspusg=AFQjCNFQjzyW5Uo6W6OHWq53zkqtpKDrPQ

*** Former Adviser to Goa government dead - Hindu
nduPANAJI: The former Adviser to the Goa government and retired
IAS officer, Alban Couto (80), passed away on Saturday following
a prolonged illness. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/29/stories/2009062955291100.htmusg=AFQjCNG38hAIAJuX6InFGY_CNu3Obv0u6Q

*** Goa CM Kamat Inaugurates South Asian Film Festival -
Daijiworld.com
ijiworld.comby Kalakruti Panaji, Jun 28: The second edition of
the South Asian Film Festival was inaugurated at the hands of
Goa Chief Minister Digambar Kamat in the ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=61849usg=AFQjCNG5yZBZeXS1LhTB8I8c9GIkGonIhQ

*** Piya replaces Pooja in \'Goa\' - IndiaGlitz
diaGlitzAnd has so opted out of director Venkat Prabhu's 'Goa'.
The film is being produced by Ocher Studios, and has Premji
Amaran, Vaibhav, Jai and Arvind Aakash ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/47914.htmlusg=AFQjCNH8ozCK6zQDenX_aZqQfD11mBIRCQ

*** CRRI to prepare Goa road map - Times of India
mes of IndiaChief minister Digambar Kamat told the media on
Saturday that a CRRI team will begin their study in Goa in
October 2009, submit a preliminary report with ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa/CRRI-to-prepare-Goa-road-map/articleshow/4711562.cmsusg=AFQjCNHlQAkSBDvhIf201TcJfkTI5yxSlQ


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] Talking Photos: Umrella Sale on D B Road Campal

2009-06-28 Thread JoeGoaUk
Colourful Umbrella Sale on busy Dayanand Bandodkar Road
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk19/3670299490/sizes/l/
 
check here how the cars dangerously stopped on the road to buy umbrellas
(A poder/baker also seen passing by)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk19/3669494685/sizes/l/
 
Sotrekar, sotrekar, Magic sotrekar – Reminds me of an old  Song
 played on Akasvani Ponnje
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk19/3670301886/sizes/l/
 


joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa  NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc





[Goanet] British families

2009-06-28 Thread Bernado Colaco

Your eminence,
 
The the bharat army occupies loads of housing space for their kin while they 
busk under the Goan sun having a jolly good time. What about giving this space 
to our fellow Goans to avoid sheding a single tear. Think about it.
 
BC
 
 
You guys talk about local thinking. But what about expat thinking?

Isn't it strange that nobody sheds a single tear for the many Goans-in-Goa
who can't afford to buy a home after working hard their full life here? And
the expat/foreigner/non-resident buying of homes is only pushing up
speculation (not need-based buying) in the unreal real estate sector.

It all says something about our attitudes, values, and which side we choose
to take! FN



 


[Goanet] Thoughts on a Sunday Afternoon

2009-06-28 Thread Roland Francis
Alfred Tavares' one liner about 1963 brings back some memories on this
cool and pleasant afternoon, made temperate by light showers that are
a welcome relief to the past three hot summer days in Toronto.

Funny about May 1963 when the news of Nehru's death spread like
wildfire in Goa. That was the time remember, when the only reliable
source of news was the Times of India that flew into Goa in the
afternoons. Reliable for the Bombaycars I mean. Bombaycars would not
usually read the local Navhind Times or other dailies if they could
help it.

A minor malaria epidemic was spreading in Goa. I was there on the
usual annual vacation and I saw NMEP wriiten all over Margao walls.
This was the acronym as I discovered later for the National Malarial
Epidemic Prevention program.

When I asked my cousin Bush (Joao Xavier MIranda) what that meant, the
cheeky bugger told me Nehru Moron Etolo Portugues (the Portuguese will
return when Nehru dies). What a pity Bush that Nehru melo pun
Portugues pottun eunk nam. Of course Bush profited much from the
non-return of the Portuguese. Instead of being a mere empregado
(clerk) in Banco National Ultramarino or some such Portuguese colonial
enterprise, he is now Goa Manager for Condor Air, the German charter
airlines that flies thousands of European tourists to Goa every
summer. He hardly has time for cousins, even those from Canada.

Viva Nehru. Viva Portugues. Viva Goa and of course it's cashew feni.
And all that.

Regards,
Roland.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alfred de
Tavaresalfredtava...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Was'nt it in 1963 Nehru died?

 AT

 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:44:54 +0530
 From: mmendonz...@gmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Freedom Fighters

 Jose Colaco:
 BTW Marshall, Where did you find this info that Nehru was a 'sick man' soon
 after the Indo-China war?. Wasn't the event which culminated in his death in
 1964, a sudden one?


Re: [Goanet] Freedom Fighters

2009-06-28 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- On Sun, 6/28/09, J. Colaco  jc cola...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 re #3; The death was following an acute (sudden) event. The
 term heart failure is too general, but this is not the forum
 for a discussion on that topic.
 

I had heard many years ago as a medical student that Nehru died from a ruptured 
aortic aneurysm, the existence of which his personal physician, the eminent 
cardiologist Rustom Jal Vakil was aware of, and was courageous enough to tell 
him long before his death. I have not been able to confirm this through any 
authentic source. The official position is that he died of a stroke. Vakil also 
knew that Muhammed Ali Jinnah was suffering from lung cancer. But he kept it a 
secret because of patient-physician confidentiality. I have been able to 
confirm the latter through the medical literature.

Cheers,

Santosh


  


[Goanet] Treatment of British families in Goa.

2009-06-28 Thread ignatius fernandes

For the first time I agree with F.N. (Fredrick Noronha)
that nobody cares about the indigenous Goans who 
cannot afford to buy their own homes in Goa.
After working hard all their life in Goa.
It is the Brits and Bharatis who come down from 
Mumbai and Delhi and buy all these ancestral 
homes and pay over the odds which the native 
Goans cannot match.
In fairness I would rather have a Brit as my neighbour 
in Goa rather than a Bharati for I know a Brit would 
keep the place clean and tidy.
Regards
Ignatius Fernandes.

_
Get the best of MSN on your mobile
http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/

Re: [Goanet] Treatment of British families in Goa

2009-06-28 Thread Eddie Fernandes
Dear Frederick,

You write: But what about expat thinking?

I had written (deleted by you):
I accept the need for any country to restrict the sale of 
property to foreigners...

I could go further - we have a part of the UK where UK nationals from other
parts of the country are not allowed to buy for the same reasons you
provide. See for example:
http://www.countrylife.co.uk/property/guidesbuy/article/68122/Property-Guide
-Jersey.html

I also believe that property prices were very low in Goa ten or even five
years ago and what we have also witnessed is the bringing into line with
other parts of India - particularly when you consider that the per capita
income in Goa in the highest in India. 

Now, suppose you tell us your views on 
1. The retrospective action of the Goa Govt. in legalising the Cidade de Goa
encroachment
2. The retrospective action of the Goa Government in suspending property
transactions of foreigners and threatening to confiscate them.
3. The percentage of Goa property sales in recent years by a) residents of
other Indian states b) NRIs, PIOs and OCIs. c) Foreign Nationals.
4. Do you believe in taking sides based on self-interest and greed or on
justice and fair play?

I must confess that I find Dr Colaco's emotive arguments about the price of
fish difficult to stomach!  Is he aware that:
1. Over 90% of the catch off the coast of Goa is exported and it is this
demand that is fuelling prices.
2. If foreign tourists were responsible of the high price of fish in Goa a)
the price would be very much lower in areas neighbouring Goa with supplies
pouring in from there to take into account higher prices available in Goa.
b) the price would drop in the low tourist season.


Eddie Fernandes
==

-Original Message-
From: Frederick [FN] Noronha 

You guys talk about local thinking. But what about expat thinking?

Isn't it strange that nobody sheds a single tear for the many Goans-in-Goa
who can't afford to buy a home after working hard their full life here? And
the expat/foreigner/non-resident buying of homes is only pushing up
speculation (not need-based buying) in the unreal real estate sector.

It all says something about our attitudes, values, and which side we choose
to take! FN



[Goanet] Talking Photos: Looks like an ambulance dumped here..

2009-06-28 Thread JoeGoaUk
Ambulance Dumped?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk19/3670305586/
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk19/3669498425/sizes/l/
 
Looks like it is dumped here.
Hiding behind the trees, not visible from the main road.


joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa  NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc