[Goanet] GOACAN to observe a Consumer Rights Awareness Fortnight
--- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help other CONSUMERS to be better informed. --- - GOACAN to observe a Consumer Rights Awareness Fortnight - GOACAN will observe a Consumer Rights Awareness Fortnight with the theme "An Enlightened Consumer is an Empowered Consumer" from 7th to 20th December in preparation for National Consumer Rights Day. The Awareness activity is being undertaken keeping in mind that the months of December-January being peak tourism season, has an impact on the quality of services, availability of products and functioning of the supervisory, vigilance and redressal mechanisms for consumers in Goa. In order to draw public and media attention to consumer issues during the fortnight, various events such as lectures, poster display, surprise visits to pharmacies, super markets & grocery stores to check products and take samples, checking the bus transport service and the implementation of weights & measures rules etc. will be held. Awareness will also be created in Schools, HSS and Colleges through the Consumer Welfare Clubs for the benefit of the students and teachers. Consumer Forum volunteers will organise a 'phone in' with the Commercial Tax, Legal Metrology, Food & Drug Administration, Tourism, Civil Supplies, Transport and other consumer related Departments. Doubtful Gift schemes & Investment offers, fake and unlicensed products, spurious & fake drugs, cosmetics and medical devices, violations of Packaged Commodities Rules and the ISI mark will be highlighted during this fortnight. During the fortnight consumer forum volunteers will publicize the official email, telephone & fax numbers of the various Departments at the local & State level, highlight the redressal avenues available such as the Consumer Conciliation Committee and Public Grievance Redressal officers at the Taluka and District level. Formats and procedures for redressal of LPG, Electricity, Telephones, Bus transport and PWD water supply complaints will also be publicised. Consumers are requested to send copies of their suggestions /complaints by post to GOACAN Post Box 187, Margao 403 601 or by email to goa...@gmail.com during this fortnight. -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK -- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa -- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mail: *goa...@gmail.com* Visit: *http://goacan.blogspot.com *--
[Goanet] Goat circus at Arpora
[Goanet] Goa - Germany, press news
Dear reader Please find below two news on the garbage situation and the German tourists in Goa, distributed by the agencies Indo-Asian News Service (IANS) and Press Trust of India (PTI). The same topic is dealed with in the Goan newspaper Herald. Please follow this link: http://www.igsg.org/de/press_2010-12-05_Herald-Garbage-en.htm The Goan daily Navhind Times reported about the upcoming German Cultural Week. Please follow the link: http://www.igsg.org/de/press_2010-12-05_NT-Goan-German-Ties-en.htm We are please do inform that the German Consulate General, Mumbai has included our programme in Consulate's Journal. Please visit: www.mumbai.diplo.de/news and www.mumbai.diplo.de/journal We are complementing this newsletter with the programme of our 3rd German Cultural Week Goa 8 – 12 December 2010 (find it at the end). We do hope you will find something of interest in this programme and we are looking forward to see you at our German Week. Kind regards IGSG Indo German Friendship Society, Goa Lieber Leser, wir senden Ihnen zwei Nachrichten über das Müllproblem und die deutschen Touristen in Goa, die von den Nachrichtenagenturen Indo-Asian News Service (IANS) und Press Trust of India (PTI) verbreitet wurden. Das selbe Thema wird auch in der lokalen Tageszeitung Herald behandelt. Den Text finden Sie auf unserer Website unter: http://www.igsg.org/de/press_2010-12-05_Herald-Garbage-en.htm Die Tageszeitung Navhind Times bringt eine Vorausschau auf die Deutsche Kulturwoche Goa. Text unter: http://www.igsg.org/de/press_2010-12-05_NT-Goan-German-Ties-en.htm Wir freuen uns, dass unser Programm auch vom Generalkonsulat der BRD in Mumbai bekannt gemacht wird. Schauen Sie doch mal ins Journal des Konsults unter: www.mumbai.diplo.de/news und www.mumbai.diplo.de/journal Wir ergänzen diesen Newsletter mit dem Programm unserer 3. Deutschen Kulturwoche Goa 2010 (siehe weiter unten). Sicher finden Sie darin etwas für Sie Interessantes. Herzliche Grüsse und vielleicht bis bald. Ihre IGSG Indo German Friendship Society, Goa *'Filthy, expensive Goa no longer attracts German tourists'* Panaji, Sat, Dec 4 05:07 PM *(IANS) *Goa is no longer a favoured tourist destination for Germans because it is 'expensive and dirty', the Indo-German Friendship Society Goa (IGFSG) said Saturday. Speaking to reporters here at a press conference called to announce a weeklong celebration to mark the arrival of the first German hippies to Goa sixty years ago, IGFSG president Aurobindo Xavier said Goa's inability to tackle the garbage disposal issue had affected Goa-bound tourist traffic from Germany. 'A lot of the feedback that the society gets is that Germans no longer want to come here because Goa cannot solve its garbage problem,' said Xavier, who teaches at a university in Munich. Garbage and other waste is disposed in the open in Goa, which has no garbage processing plant. Strewn garbage and heaps of litter is an ugly, but common site along the state's roads and near sites of tourist interest. 'A lot of German tourists, who have come to Goa in the past, say that it is now time to bid Goa goodbye,' he added. The earliest wave of tourism in Goa, which evolved with the coming of the hippies in the 1960s, contained a majority of German tourists who in the 1970s were attracted by the pristine beauty of its beaches. British tourists got the Goa-bug in the early eighties and after a couple of decades, Russians outrank every other nationality when it comes to foreign tourist numbers here. The number of German tourists over the years have witnessed a steady decline, according to Xavier. 'The garbage situation and the increase in the number of Russian tourists has led to the decline of German tourists here. Also, other beach destinations like Thailand are much cheaper than Goa,' he said. Goa in 2005 received nearly 15,000 German tourists, but the number has shrunk considerably over the last five years, according to Xavier. Goa received 2.4 million tourists annually, out of which nearly half a million are foreigners. *Germans say goodbye to Goa due to filth: Experts* Panaji, Dec 4, (*PTI*) The filth on Goa beaches and expensive holidays have made the state less preferred vacation gateway for the Germans, an expert said. "The Germans who have arrived on their holiday in Goa recently have written on our website that they are saying good bye to the state," Aurobindo A P G Xavier, President, Indo-German Friendship Society, Goa, told PTI. He said that the website run by the society (www.igsg. org) has been receiving articles by German visitors who find the state as filthy. "Moreover, it's expensive destination. Tourists find Thailand cheaper than Goa, so they have now changed their choice," Xavier, a Goan-based in Germany, said. Xavier is amongst the batch of Goans who were studying in Portugal when Goa was liberated from Portuguese rule. He later travelled to Germany to eke out living and has made the Europ
[Goanet] Schubert in Saligao, Ravel in Delhi
http://www.timescrest.com/culture/schubert-in-saligao-ravel-in-delhi-4227 Nigel Britto | December 4, 2010 Winter is here and so is western classical music. A talented vocalist-pianist pair from London set off on a concert tour of India. Come December, and a pair of rising young talents in their mid-twenties will serenade India, putting to rest the notion that western classical music is the preserve of white-haired folk. The melodies of Bach, Lizst and Ravel will float through Delhi and Goa as Indian soprano Joanne-Marie D'Mello and Japanese pianist Kumi Matsuo set out to prove that the future of this exquisite form of music is in safe hands. Both musicians are studying in London. D'Mello, 23, from Saligao in Goa (the village of the great artist F N Souza), is studying voice at the Royal College of Music, although she maintains that microbiology, which she has a degree in, is her first love. "It was either music or science, " she says. "I could not have my feet in both boats and try to be as good as I would like to be in both fields at the same time. Singing is a full-time job and if you really want to achieve a high standard you must give it all your attention." D'Mello, who is known for her versatility (she plays violin and piano and sang briefly for a symphonic metal band apart from representing Goa at the Republic Day parade as a cadet), has performed extensively in India. However, this will be the first tour for Kumi Matsuo, who is justifiably excited at the prospect. Matsuo, 26, is an accomplished concert pianist who has played along with the Tokyo Symphony Orchestra, as well as given a recital at the Royal Albert Hall in London. D'Mello draws a line between an instrumentalist and a singer. "As a singer, you are left entirely with what you were born with, " she says. "It's all the more difficult in London as a singer is useless without his/her voice, and hence the importance of keeping colds at bay. You must guard your health like a fanatic. It's easy to pick up viruses from millions of people passing through London. Singing is a very personal thing. You have no object to cling on to, no music stand to hide you. You have to face your audience and bare your soul! It can be nerve-wracking ! It takes a great deal of effort and practice to be able to do that. " The pianist and the singer met by chance when D'Mello wanted a pianist for an audition some years ago. "Since then, we have done countless recitals together - at college and outside. She has accompanied me at auditions, competitions and my exams. She's a very intuitive pianist who is very sensitive to my singing and understands my ways. " Matsuo also painstakingly translates the text of the each song before performing them. As a result, she puts the poetry into each and every phrase and that's what brings each song to life. For all these reasons and more, "it was the logical choice to invite Kumi on this tour", D'Mello adds. Both the concerts will feature Matsuo doing a solo part. For D'Mello, the Goa stop of the tour will be the special one. "I am really looking forward to our recital at the Kala Academy on December 11. For me it's home ground, having studied music there for so many years!" Yet, despite choosing music as a career, she remains practical about its prospects in India. "I know that currently performing western classical music in Goa is not a career option. Whereas in Europe you could freelance with any of the hundreds of orchestras, choral societies, and make a living out of it. " So is it easier there? "No", she says;"There's a lot of competition and it can be quite a struggle, especially during these dark economic times where huge cuts are being made and the arts are suffering. The only way to save the arts is through private sponsorship and efforts are being made to turn the situation around. But more needs to be done and soon. " The concerts will be held at Kala Academy, Goa on December 11, and at the Alliance Francaise, Delhi on December 14.
[Goanet] GEMAI - NEW YEAR's EVE "DANCE OF THE NEW DECADE"
THIS IS IT! THE NEW YEAR's EVE "DANCE OF THE NEW DECADE" Only 4 weeks to the grand event. Get your tickets NOW before tickets sell out. Don't wait. Tickets will sell out. An unforgettable New Year's Eve at an affordable price. The GEMAI Global Group (GEMAI stands for Goans, East Indians, Mangaloreans, Anglo Indians) cordially invites you to a gala New Year's event. Beat the recession blues, relax and dance the evening away as we usher in 2011. All for a good cause - 100% of proceeds to benefit Goa Sudharop Youth activities. This is the second time so many groups are coming together for one memorable evening. Very central and convenient location. Plenty of free parking. All are invited. The event is for the whole family (family-friendly event). LOCATION: WILLOW PASS CENTER ADDRESS: 2748 East Olivera Road. Concord, CA Phone: (925) 671-3423 http://www.ci.concord.ca.us/recreation/rentals/willowpasscenter.htm TIME: 7:45pm to 12:30am DATE: DECEMBER 31, 2010 COST: $35 FOR AGES 13+ $22 FOR AGES 5-12 UNDER 5 FREE, NO TICKETS WILL BE SOLD AT THE DOOR. Enjoy a wonderful evening and bring in the New Year. Beverages including Alcohol will be sold at reasonable price. By purchasing a ticket you agree to hold the event hosts and all parties harmless for any adverse results due to your alcohol consumption. i.e. you agree you are 100% responsible and liable for your alcohol consumption in connection with the event. Please send for your tickets asap as this event will sell out. NO TICKETS WILL BE SOLD AT THE DOOR. Tickets sold first come, first serve basis. Although those under age 5 are free, please include their names so we have a headcount for catering purposes. Mail your checks made payable to "GOA SUDHAROP" and mail to: ACARIA ALMEIDA P.O. Box 6144 MORAGA, CA, 94570 Phone: 925-324-0513 Please email Acaria Almeida at jarks...@yahoo.com and let her know you mailed the check with the number of people in your party. Net proceeds from this event will be donated to GOA SUDHAROP for YOUTH activities. For more information, see www.goasudharop.org. PLEASE NOTE TICKET PRICES ARE NOT TAX DEDUCTIBLE. Donations in excess of the ticket prices are greatly appreciated. Tax deductible contributions to GOA SUDHAROP can be added to your check, please be VERY generous. Please forward this email to your family and friends.
[Goanet] Basically the United Nations destroyed Goa
By accepting the Soviet veto which was based on utter crap ie.: that Goa was part of a sovereign state of India, the US led draft resolution no S/5033 held on 18/12/1961 and during 988th meeting of the Security council was thrown out by the Russians. The resolution called upon immediate cessation of hostilities, india should withdraw its forces and urged the two parties india and Portugal to resolve the diferrences peacefully. Lies such as Portugal had brought in reinforcements and had been threatening all of the people of Goa and the neighbouring population in india was the text used in the veto. Another false pretext was that Portugal who had joined NATO and would endanger indian safety. This was all held under the disguise of the UN policy of forced de colonization. BC
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (7Dec10)
"Going on a Hike? No...carrying my sons Luggage of Books to School!!" + To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] SC notice to Central Government
Attorney-general's impeccable integrity and combative stand that questioned the Supreme Court saying '..every judicial appointment would then be subject to SCRUTINY' backfired resulting in Supreme Court asking central government why CVC's appointment as head of the country's top anti-corruption watchdog shouldn't be scrapped? Read more at: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1101207/jsp/nation/story_13268478.jsp Best regards, U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Goa news for December 7, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** US embassy cables: 'Humiliation' for cooperative ally in fight against terror - The Guardian mbassy-cables-documents/142554">US embassy cables: Terrorists damage Bouteflika's credibility http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFlb_r7MXpnlxc5veDavq0tJsDaSQ&url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/243312 *** Lifeguards on Goa's beaches strike work, demand higher salary - NDTV.com ive lifeguards managing the rescue and security operations on Goa's beaches went on strike today ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEYI81_Ky5uW67Pae-RS1suaJwiWg&url=http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/lifeguards-on-goa-s-beaches-strike-work-demand-higher-salary-70991 *** MiG-29K develops technical snag in Goa, no casualties - Daily News & Analysis ily News & AnalysisFlag officer commanding Goa area (FOGA) Sudhir Pillai said the pilot had to apply emergency brakes on the airstrip when the error occurred, resulting in a ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFXZuDORQLIT5Mfg3i0y9zVPo1Mtw&url=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_mig-29k-develops-technical-snag-in-goa-no-casualties_1477485 *** GSIA fused over power shortage, land allotments in industrial estates - Times of India ased power plants in Goa to tackle the "growing demand". ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEYZzAsswA0G0AUUgts97t-H2K6Yg&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/GSIA-fused-over-power-shortage-land-allotments-in-industrial-estates/articleshow/7056667.cms *** GSL launches naval offshore patrol vessel - Times of India Tg http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEkYLfO8p5asr3jrfjeG3Z2K7ihag&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/GSL-launches-naval-offshore-patrol-vessel/articleshow/7056625.cms *** 'Goa needs infrastructure to emerge as boating venue' - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: There's huge potential for Goa to emerge as a boating destination, but the lack of infrastructure is a hurdle, according to the organizers of a boat ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGisPvj_Ntwu0-zFmrqZbTbcUMdAQ&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-needs-infrastructure-to-emerge-as-boating-venue/articleshow/7056649.cms *** 'ODP will urbanize our villages' - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: :Goa is going to get more urban, if one goes by the decision of the state level committee's (SLC) on the Regional Plan (RP) 2021 to include more ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFqAaHNK-cnlASDhk8ycEN6jK6Crg&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/ODP-will-urbanize-our-villages/articleshow/7056844.cms *** North Goa collector feels Bicholim's mining heat - Times of India mes of IndiaKERI: Collector of North Goa Mihir Vardhan, along with Pali MLA Pratap Gawas and government officials, visited Surla and other mining areas in Bicholim ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFXCdPYXtj6E6Qld_4fRiAGEyIyvw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/North-Goa-collector-feels-Bicholims-mining-heat/articleshow/7056816.cms *** Follow safety rules, cops tell shrines again - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The North Goa police have issued a fresh security advisory to places of worship and have asked the authorities in charge to urgently comply with the ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFBCXB6WrFye3qQL4AtcekYE02IMw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Follow-safety-rules-cops-tell-shrines-again/articleshow/7056629.cms *** Marck Biosciences acquires injectible facility at Goa - Business Standard ased Ravish Infusion on a lock-stock-barrel basis for a total sum of Rs 5.47 crore under auction process from Debt ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEv4Gi6dxaMbALDdgId5zZcBfOxHw&url=http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/marck-biosciences-acquires-injectible-facility-at-goa/417333/ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] India's Nicole Faria crowned Miss Earth Talent 2010
India's Nicole Faria crowned Miss Earth Talent 2010 Press Trust of India, Updated: December 05, 2010 00:57 IST Kuala Lumpur: India's Nicole Faria has been crowned Miss Earth Talent 2010 after beating 17 other contestants at a talent competition in Ho Chi Minh City in Vietnam. Faria, a 20-year-old girl from Bangalore, won the title at the talent show with a scintillating belly dance that combines Oriental and Middle Eastern style. "We are ecstatic and overjoyed although we expected it," Faria's father Ian said in Bangalore. The event raised 100 million Vietnamese Dong, which will be transferred to the local Red Cross to support flood victims in the central region of Vietnam. Vietnam's representative Luu Thi Diem Huong was voted among top five contestants with her performance of folk dances that are inspired by traditional dances in the northern, central and southern region of the country. http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/indias-nicole-faria-crowned-miss-earth-talent-2010-70581
[Goanet] Talking photos: A trip from Panjim to Old Goa onboard Royal Cruise (Panjim, Britona, Ribandar, Sam Pedro, Old Goa)
Talking photos: A trip from Panjim to Old Goa onboard Royal Cruise (Panjim, Britona, Ribandar, Sam Pedro, Old Goa) Like many other projects, this too was pending since Sept last. A video too was to go with this one. (mind you, there are some pending even from last year sept 2009) Annual Pilgrimage of Panjimites to Old Goa on Sept. 5, 2010 (onboard Royal ship) It took over an hour to reach Old Goa Jetty. First 30 minutes and we were still in Ribandar This is what I captured from the ship. Procession http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966389437/sizes/l/ Payers and hymns onboard Riyal cruise http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966390163/sizes/l/ CoP jetty http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4961331086/sizes/l/ Towards right http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4960739061/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4961334570/sizes/l/ A view of the bridges http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966992266/sizes/l/ Fishing trawlers’ jetty http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967010934/sizes/l/ Panjim city view http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4960732935/sizes/l/ The old secretariat http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4961329990/sizes/l/ Bandodkar ‘s http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4961333082/sizes/l/ Britona Church and community hall http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4961005932/sizes/l/ Ribandar view Concrete jungle http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966993800/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966391495/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967008432/sizes/l/ Ferry jetty http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966406289/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966405039/sizes/l/ with cars etc http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966407349/sizes/l/ GIM http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967008824/sizes/l/ another?? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966406009/sizes/l/ A view of St. Agustin Church Tower http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966392055/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/496639/sizes/l/ a mini jetty with two dogs http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966401901/sizes/l/ Sam Pedro Church http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966401377/sizes/l/ KTC on the road http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966402865/sizes/l/ A lighthouse http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966403427/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967006988/sizes/l/ a bungalow http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967005576/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967007534/sizes/l/ Sand unloading.. near Bhakia's property http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966996022/sizes/l/ Barge Parking (?) Church tower seen in the background http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966393663/sizes/l/ A discarded Boat? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966394553/sizes/l/ The church, where I have never been to (tower also seen) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967003452/sizes/l/ The main road to Old Goa from Ribandar’ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967003872/sizes/l/ Old Goa Jetty Only one fellow came to receive us.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967002732/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966998460/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966400157/sizes/l/ With the boat http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966998894/sizes/l/ A view from the jetty (Divar Ferry wharf) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967002284/sizes/l/ The procession from the jetty to Basilica of Bom Jesus http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966999406/sizes/l/ Via Viceroy’s arch http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967001960/sizes/l/ Vasco da Gama http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967001394/sizes/l/ Both side view of the Arch http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966498377/sizes/l/ Read about the arch http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966498045/ Adil Shah’s Palace gate http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967000480/sizes/l/ read about the gate http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966397963/ Approaching the Basilica (Se cathedral and St. Francis de Assisi church in the background) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4966999782/sizes/l/ Brass band part of the procession http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4960735779/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk28/4967011178/sizes/l/ actullay, this was the part of the event/pilgrimage. With inside/ouside of Baslilica http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msWGKtBN3rg Thanks for your time joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Renationalisation in a Flat World-III
When I read this Nandkumar article at http://www.navhindtimes.in/opinion/renationalisation-flat-world-iii I had the following reactions: 1: What is this? a bhel-puri of some facts and some non-facts, written in a neo-margarine style? 2: Should Nandkumar and I stop writing about history? 3: What silliness is this? 4: Did Nandkumar bother to check some simple facts? e.g. Is Malindi near Zanzibar or 300km away in Kenya? OK OK Bombay (near Goa)? Perhaps, he was writing about Melinda from Zanzibar. 5: Did Nandkumar bother to research what the problem was for the Europeans to get to Calicut? Was it the Malindi-Calicut sector? If not, what is Nandkumar's point about 'discovery'? I personally found the article disgusting and prejudicial. It is also something which I was not expecting from Nandkumar. Gabriel has made some pertinent points. I will add to that - if necessary ...but a lot has already been written antes. No need (I believe) to respond to repeated nonsense. jc For what it is worth . a snippet from 1998 http://www.colaco.net/1/vdg3.htm What would India be like but for this Vasco da Gama voyage ? It is really difficult to speculate what would have happened if ! but one can only try ... ! If not for Vasco da Gama it may have been some other Portuguese navigator. It was Portugal after all which had the best maritime information at the time. So one can consider Magalhaes or as he is widely known Magellan would have found the route to India but via South America and the east. It is difficult to imagine that the British, French or Dutch would have attempted that route though the Spaniards may have ! and we may have had a Spanish settlement on the East Coast of India. This would leave the West Coast and the Arabian Sea in the hands of the powerful Arab sealords. The Hindu rajas of South India would either have remained as their puppets or be replaced by the various Turkish and Moghal empires. It was after all the Portuguese who trounced the vast and strong Arab and Turkish naval forces in the sea battles and skirmishes off Calicut and Diu. It was also the Portuguese who defeated the mercenaries of the Arabs in the decisive 1539 Battle of Vedalai. This marked the end of the Arab domination of the Fishery Coast. These defeats effectively stretched, diluted and ultimately weakened the Arab, Turk and Moghal forces in India; a situation which helped the Hindu rulers to recapture their possessions and the mighty Peshwas to establish their regime. This in turn helped the formation of an united, independent, secular and largely peaceful India ( the British tour of duty having been noted ). There would have been one major advantage for the region if Vasco da Gama were NOT to make that historic voyage. There would be no threat of nuclear war between Pakistan and India ! For there would be no Pakistan and no India ! We would all have been part of an Arabian, Moghal or a Turkish kingdom ! There might have been inter Kingdom battles but at least NO India - Pakistan wars !!! In effect, Vasco da Gama's historic voyage paved the way for the peaceful majority Hindu society in India . So, Vasco da Gama if a nuclear war breaks out between India and Pakistan Remember that You will have been primarily responsible for it ! Post Script : Goa is an unique position of being a place where East meets West...and has a lot to gain from it. Goans surely are a happy and tolerant people. We should learn to accept our multi-ethnic, multi-racial background and be proud of it. We also have to move forward, irrespective of religion, caste or political preferences... so that we can have a clean, peaceful and prosperous State for ourselves and for our children. The Portuguese were part of our lives for over 400 years and Portuguese genes run through many Goans. The Portuguese have also contributed significantly to our country and society. Not all of their contributions were good but many are.! We cannot change our past nor correct its misdeeds not selectively at least. Let us look to the future ! June 1, 1998
[Goanet] Special Status for Goa - Not Enough
> I appreciate efforts by Goa MP's Shripad Naik and Shantaram Naik for > lobbing the Central Government, to adopt Special Status to Save Goa's > Identity. However, this alone will not be enough, we need to take urgent > measures, which should among other things include: (1) Creating sustainable > employment/business opportunities for Goans, so as to stop the Goan Exodus > from Goa and bring back its sons/daughters from overseas countries (2) > Favourable Educational & Medical opportunities for Goans; including Non > Resident Goans (2) Stop further deterioration of quality of life via > promoting destructive development, environment damage etc (3) Urgent adopt > policies & measures to address the un-controlled migrant influx into Goa (4) > Formulate a comprehensive Housing Policy, which favours housing Goans only > and not create un-necessary homes for outsiders to come in; at the cost of > destroying Goa's Environment, Ecology, Forests and contaminating its air, > land and water. The Question is do our current bunch of MLA's in the > Government have the capacity or at least the will to do this? They seem to > be too busy fighting for their huge selfish personal stakes and appeasing > their Supreme Masters in Delhi; at the cost of destroying Goa and its > precious Identity. It is high time that the Voters who have elected these > MLA's for whatever reasons, start demanding remedial measures else they are > also part of the problem and will be the cause of Goa's Destruction!! > > Arwin Mesquita, Abu Dhabi. > > -- > Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ > > Please also see below: > 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: > http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ > 2. "Rape of Goa" : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ > 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ > 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: > http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html > 5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/ > 6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim > 7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: > http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 > 8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): > http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ >
[Goanet] Liberation of Goa from the Goans (Goa's Liberation Day)
Soter Wrote: Goans grumble behind the back but do not confront from the front because they want to remain good to everyone especially the migrants. Goans will patronise a migrant vendor and just ignore the local vendor as stupid, arrogant and so on. They do not realise that once the migrant vendor has eliminated all competition he will hike his prices and be as arrogant, if not more, than the goan. That exactly has happened with Goan manual labourers when everyone jumped for cheap labour. Today we know the results. The question is whether goans will ever learn to protect their kind? We need to make a noise where it matters and not only on internet. Response: Unfortunately, We Goan spices lack foresight. We are looking for short term gains rather than long term. Back then, 1990-1992 I was in constructions activities in small ways, helping NRI's friends building their dream homes. During that time, I completed 3 projects the biggest was ground Plus1 Bungalow with 4 bedrooms. All labours were locally hired - Mason (Pidreal) was from Pernem. My Friend (home owner) asked me why I using the local labour as the cost of construction will shoot up. I promised him that will not be the case. The Ghatis do not know how to work with laterite stone as they are familiar with brick work only. Ghatis labour is cheap but lack quality of our Goan mason. They waste stone and use lot of cement mix for dressing which eventually raises the constructions material cost. You save 25 rupees on Ghati labour but waste 50-60 on material. During this time, I had problem in hiring Goan Tile fixer as it was mostly done by outsiders (Hubli and Rajasthan). The cost of tiles (Ceramic and Marble) fixing was around 150-200 rupees. I asked my Goan Masons to do the tile work but they were reluctant as they have only worked with laterite stone all their life. I told this guys you do hard work and the cream is taken by the non-goan for fixing tiles. The wages for laterite stone work was 100 per day whereas 150-200 for tiles fixing. I trained them with the little knowledge I had. We had some failures in the first few areas but with my strong backing, eventual did a good job. Today they are very successful and gracefully remind me of those events that shaped their life. When I go to Panjim or Margao market, I always buy from Goan (not because I hate non-Goan) Vendor. We may spend a few rupees extra but it means a lot to fellow Goan Vendor. It gives him/her confidence to go and work on his/her farm. It indirectly helps Goa maintain its fertile land and Green cover. The reason I write/share this: We are Goans and must support our Goan brothers in all circumstances. Viva Goa Agnelo Pinheiro
[Goanet] 'Filthy, expensive Goa no longer attracts German
It wont attract any civilized country anymore which will make it attractive only for the Russians and cheap Indian tourists. Bernice
[Goanet] Festa Dis..
Dubaichea Goykarani, Dezembrache 2rer, St Mary's Igorgent Bhagevont Sant Francis Xavierachi Porob, St Mary's Goan Community asrea khal somboromblea uprant, Igorjechea Osreant ek Konknint kariavoll zal'li tache kaim dekhave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFKx_r8jhYs Regards Peter Fernandes Penha de Franca (UAE)
Re: [Goanet] Renationalisation in a Flat World-III
Nandakumar has written a very provocative, but reasonably substantive, article full of statements regarding Goa's history. I for one would like to see a good honest debate about it on factual grounds rather than the usual communal insinuations, innuendo, flame baits and boorishness that we see on Goanet. Cheers, Santosh --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote: > > A few questions: > > 1. Why is Goa a popular "retirement" location or a location > for a "holiday home" > for the high and mighty of India? Could not Ratnagiri or > Karwar for that matter, > be an equally good location? Also applies to IFFI and local > tourists. > > 2. How was it in the 60s and early 70s, when one came > to Goa by road, one could > immediately discern the remarkable difference in > body-language, mode of dress > and general composure between people across the > borders? (Today, the lines have > diluted quite a lot...) > > > What do you reckon made the difference? > > 3. Who stopped Sati? Who indicated equality of women in > succession? As a > prominent historian (now living in Portugal) has said that > a Hindu priest who > had come to Goa from another part of India, found out that > Goan Hindus were > different, and had to leave. What made the Goan Hindus > different from the Hindus > of the rest of India? > > > Dr. Nandkumar Kamat asks whether the people of Goa were > living in the dark > Ages. I don't know. But if burning a widow live is not Dark > Ages, I don't know > what is. > > > 4. Isn't the codigo civil of 1867 still followed in Goa? If > this was no good, > would it have been followed now nearly 50 years later? > > 5. Wasn't there a sort of "gentileza" been inculcated in > the psyche of a Goan? > of Trust and Honesty, which has now practically all but > disappeared from Goa? > Selma's article re Goans in English East Africa about being > able to trust Goans > with the keys of all the safes in East Africa, not enough > to indicate that there > was indeed a difference between the Portuguese Goan and the > Indian of the > times? > > > Cheers, > > Gabriel. > > > > - Original Message > > From: U. G. Barad > > > In today’s NT, Dr. Nandakumar Kamat, under subject > titled above, gives > > explanations to factual realities prevailing during > (and before) Portuguese > > rule in Goa. Read more at: > > > > http://www.navhindtimes.in/opinion/renationalisation-flat-world-iii > > > > IT is a myth that the Portuguese had a > civilising influence in Goa. > > Civilisation is not just material wealth, monuments, > architecture, drinks > > and dress. Were the people of Goa living in the dark > ages before the > > Portuguese conquest? > > Such a statement is an outright insult of the > Goan masses which still > > celebrate Dhalo, Shigmo, Intruz, Divza, Sangod > and can teach the Portuguese > > not less than 5000 culinary recipes. The > so-called civilising attempt was > > the world’s worst and the least discussed form > of anthropological > > engineering. > >
Re: [Goanet] Renationalisation in a Flat World-III
That was personal ‘Opinion’ of Nandakumar Kamat. It is obvious from the write up that Nandakumar wants to retaliate at the mass opposition to the acts of the FFs and his involvement that has been flooding the papers. But in the process he has exposed vast tracks of ignorance or may be lies he perceives obsessively as truth. Civilisation means to learn to live as a community, decently, hygienically and courteously; which the Portuguese definitely taught. Any other description is outright delusion. Specially when the educated believe in cleansing the seas. ‘Intruz’ is Carnival. May be Nandakumar has a history book which says that it was copied from ancient Goa by the Portuguese, and propagated this copy to Brasil and rest of its colonies. The more of culinary recipes a country knows does not mean higher civilisation. It only means more variety of ‘Spices and Herbs’ available in that country. Irrational remarks like “Portuguese Gift of Corruption”, “The Portuguese couldn’t distinguish between breeding of horses and humans”, “Colonialism introduced not only the dreaded sexually transmitted diseases”, are obvious delusions from the blind. Did the Portuguese also teach the Indian Central government babus, the Ministers, etc, corruption May be they even introduced them to Swiss Banks. And today, how are the Goans bred? Even mad dogs have a better law protecting them and discriminating humans. And may I know from Mr. Nandakumar, who introduce HIV in India and Goa? If the Portuguese promoted slavery, we would have had negroes in Goa in proportion to those in the US. There is a saying: “History is written by the conquerors”; therefore always distorted. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] NEWS: Jail guards turn robbers, arrested (IANS)
Not at all surprising given what is happening right at the top in the country today! -Original Message- From: goanet-news-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:goanet-news-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of Goanet News Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 5:07 PM To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! Subject: [Goanet-News] NEWS: Jail guards turn robbers, arrested (IANS) Jail guards turn robbers, arrested 2010-12-05 12:40:00 Panaji, Dec 5 (IANS) Four jail guards attached to the high security Aguada central prison in Goa were arrested near here early Sunday while trying to rob a truck driver on a national highway, police said. The guards - Ankush Naik, Vishal Naik, Keshav Gawas and Dinesh Warang - were caught around 3 a.m. at Ponda, 30 km from here. 'They were attacking a truck driver and trying to rob him near the Kundaim industrial estate, when they saw a police control room van approaching. They tried to flee on their motorcycles, but they were arrested after a chase,' police inspector C.L. Patil said here. He added that the quartet was even dressed for the crime - in black. http://sify.com/news/jail-guards-turn-robbers-arrested-news-national-kmfmEdchegj.html
[Goanet] Vasco's Legacy
Marshall wrote- 1. May I request Vasant to provide the source/ statistics of his conclusions on Arundhati Roy or are these his personal perceptions? Please clarify. 2. In which basket does Vasant place the RSS, VHP, Shiv Sena, HJS, Sanathan Sanstha, Bajrang Dal - the Desh Premi or Desh Drohi? Please also give reasons why. Response- 1.These are not my personal perceptions-There were polls taken on NDTV,CNN IBN and some other news channels on the subject. Incidentally,Arundhati Roy and I are both Alumni of The Lawrence School,Lovedale near Ooty.We recently had an Alumni reunion and the general consensus was that she should be ignored and allowed to express herself-the law on sedition will take it's course. http://lawrenceschoollovedale.blogspot.com/2009/09/susanna-arundhati-roy-ex-lawrencian.html 2.I had stated my views very clearly.If the parties mentioned love India and I have no reasons to assume they do not, they are obviously Desh Premis.This also applies to The Indian Union Muslim League,SIMI,PFI etc,if they love India.What is it that is so difficult to understand in the matter so as to necessitate a "clarification"? Love of India by Indians transcends Religion,Caste,Creed and Political Beliefs.
[Goanet] [JudeSundayReflections] Third Sunday of Advent
5-Dec-2010 Dear Friend, Many of our fears stem from the unknown. We spend so much time worrying about what might happen to us in the future. Will I pass the exam? Will I get the job I want? What is happening to me? Have I got some sickness that cannot be cured? Is it worth carrying on with what I am doing? The future is the great unknown that we fear. But hope gives us strength to carry on. Our God is a God of hope and He never let’s us down. Have a hope-filled weekend! Fr. Jude Sunday Reflections: Third Sunday of Advent ‘We are waiting in hope for the Lord!’ 12-Dec-2010 Readings: Isaiah 35: 1-6, 10James 5: 7-10Matthew 11: 2-11 In the first reading from the book of Isaiah the prophet addresses his people, who are very disillusioned because of their exile to Babylon. Will their slavery ever end? Will they return home? Is there any future for them? They wonder whether they will be annihilated. Isaiah comforts them with strong words: “Strengthen the weak hands, and make firm the feeble feet. Be strong! Here is your God… He will come to save you!” Isaiah promises good times ahead! Unfinished Play Nathaniel Hawthorne was an American writer. When he died in 1864, he had on his desk the outline of a play he never got a chance to finish. The play centered around a person who never appeared on stage. Everyone talked about him. Everyone dreamed about him. Everyone awaited his arrival. But he never came. All kinds of minor characters described him. They told everybody what he would be like. They told everybody what he would do. But the main character never appeared. The Old Testament is something like Nathaniel Hawthorne’s play. It too ended without the main character putting in an appearance. Everyone talked about the Messiah. Everyone dreamed about him. Everyone awaited his arrival. But he never came. All kinds of prophets, like Isaiah and Jeremiah, told the people what he would be like. They told the people what he would do, But the Messiah never appeared. Mark Link in ‘Sunday Homilies’ In the gospel the focus is on John the Baptist as he too waits for the revelation of the Messiah. John was thrown in the dungeon awaiting his death, and his faith is severely tested. He needed assurance and comforting. He sends his followers to ask Jesus: “Are you the one who is to come or are we to wait for another?” John the Baptist was a holy, God-fearing man, yet he ended up sentenced to death. At times we too can be disillusioned by the circumstances of our life. God seems to have abandoned us! Are we on the right path? Is the struggle worth while? Will it bear fruit? At times like these we need to hear the reassuring words of Jesus: “Blessed is the person who does not lose faith in me!” When the two disciples of John asked Jesus: “Are you the one who is to come?” Jesus might have replied with a straight answer, “Yes, I am.” But he didn’t. Jesus pointed out to his works. Actions always speak louder than words. So instead of convincing John’s disciples with his words, he pointed to the works he was doing. Those works were exactly the kind Isaiah had predicted for the messianic times. He was quite happy to let his works speak for themselves. Our faith is always a fragile thing and at times we will be shaken and disheartened, but we must hang on. We are blessed if we do not lose faith in Jesus. And twice blessed are we if, like Jesus, we are able to show forth our faith in deeds of love and mercy. Living the Word It happens in many a person’s life. Certainty gives way to doubts, enthusiasm for a cause is replaced by a need for reassurance, commitment is undermined by a sense of being betrayed. It happened to John the Baptist. The fiery preacher who challenged the life style even of kings now wonders whether it was all in vain. The great forerunner of the Messiah wonders did he back the wrong man and give his life to a foolish cause. From his prison cell, he pleads with his cousin to intervene to renew his hope and restore his inner peace. Jesus moves to do just that. He sends the Baptist reports of his own life style with its care of the sick and the poor, its miracles of healing with its preaching of God’s kingdom of forgiveness and new beginnings. It was not what John expected from a Messiah but it was what God intended the Messiah to be. John understands, accepts and is renewed even to the heroic surrender of his life. In our time, many people have such Baptist moments and some people have them often over the years. The certainties of another time yield to the searching of a changing world. For some, the trusted ones seem to have betrayed the cause. Tom Clancy in ‘Living the Word’ Strengthen Weary Hands Little Miriam and her daddy were crossing a narrow bridge over a river. Fearing for his child, Miriam’s daddy said to her, “Sweetheart, please hold my hand so that you don’t fall into the river.” Miriam said, “No, daddy! You hold
[Goanet] At IC Colony....
One of the newer settings in which Goans have based themselves is I.C. Colony at Borivali. The colony gets its name from the Immaculate Conception Church in the locality, and many Goan families which once stayed in the heart of town have moved there in recent years. Just learnt of the launch of a Goan Cultural Association at the I.C. Colony. It can be contacted at La Paloma, Opposite Corporation Bank, I C Colony, Borivali (West) Mumbai 400103. If you know of any other active (or otherwise) Goan associations in your part of the woods, please drop a line. FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 New books from Goa,1556 http://goa1556.goa-india.org Patriotism in Action: http://prlog.org/11122178 Mansion of Glass:http://prlog.org/11121961 Skin, first Goa edn: http://prlog.org/11121981
[Goanet] Hubli too...
Talking about Borivali and IC Colony reminded me of my not-so-recent (May 2010) trip to Hubli. We stopped by at the home of my childhood friend Sharbelle (some of you might know her mum, Marjorie Aguiar nee Lobbo, no typo here, and her dad, Roderigo Aguiar of Margao, who was a radio announcer at Emissora de Goa, Radio Goa and AIR in the 1950s and 1960s). Sharbelle's hubby Roque Fernandes took us on a whirlwind tour of parts of Hubli, before we caught the night train out, and was kind enough to show us the church, the school and the now (unused, I think) Goan Institute. Please see some of the photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157624198334204/ Take a look at the Goan Institute, a story in stone from another era [http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4667027509/in/set-72157624198334204/] when Goans were aplenty in Railway jobs, and out-migration was the norm even more than now. Please share any links you have to diaspora groups. FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 New books from Goa,1556 http://goa1556.goa-india.org Patriotism in Action: http://prlog.org/11122178 Mansion of Glass: http://prlog.org/11121961 Skin, first Goa edn: http://prlog.org/11121981
[Goanet] Fate Decided in Womb?
http://www.healthiertalk.com/fate-decided-womb-2941
Re: [Goanet] Re- Goanet - anti-Portuguese resolution passed by group in Panjim
Oh add to that: stop eating chillies, chikoos, pineapple, cashew nuts, potatoes and myriad other fruits introduced by the Portuguese. Ditto to feni drinkers among the Portuguese-haters - drink instead the hooch produced by bootleggers of Mumbai. - Original Message > From: Vivian A. DSouza > To: goanet@lists.goanet.org > Sent: Sat, 27 November, 2010 8:43:26 AM > Subject: [Goanet] Re- Goanet - anti-Portuguese resolution passed by group in >Panjim > > Bravo ! > > While this group is busy passing resolutions, why not pass resolutions > banning > > the English language, English signage, English used in Government offices > etc. > > English used in Parliament, and change all English names including street > names, and town names still in use all over India. > > > >
[Goanet] CONDOLENCES
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994)® www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ www.goa-world.com http://www.goa-world.com/goa/credit%5Ccredit.htm From: Indian Football Federation Kuwait [mailto:iffkuw...@gmail.com] Dear Affiliates & Members & Friends, It is with deep sadness that Indian Football Federation – Kuwait, announces the death of Mrs. Hilda D’souza, the mother of the Federation's President, Adolf D’souza, who passed away this morning here in Kuwait. Please do keep the family in your prayers, that our Almighty God gives them the strength to bear the loss. “Perhaps they are not the stars, but rather openings in Heaven where the love of our lost ones pours through and shines down upon us to let us know they are happy”. May her soul rest in peace. Indian Football Federation - Kuwait www.iff-kuwait.org 6th December 2010 http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans
Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving?
My mother tells me that the term "entronizacao" is the dedication of the house
to the Sacred Heart i.e. the Sacred Heart of Jesus was made the "king" of the
house on that particular date when the house was first purchased by my
grandmother.
The litany of NS de Piedade was held in October, preceded by the novena as
stated. The litany of Sacred Heart ("Cor Iesu ..") used to be held on the 3rd
of May at the Melo's house (roughly coincides with Filosha's birthday), and on
the 26th May at our house. During the course of years, the dates became
moveable
somewhat, and I remember a terrible storm circa 3rd May 1967, on the way to the
Melo's.
Incidentally, the litany to the Sacred Heart, in front of the statue that
stands
halfway between the Church and the cemetery in Loutolim, used to be sung on
25th
May every year until as recent as 5 years ago, when the tradition was
discontinued due to lack of participation, as my mother informs me.
- Original Message
> From: Alfred de Tavares
> To: GOANET Lists
> Sent: Thu, 2 December, 2010 1:42:20 AM
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> Gabriel, 'entronizacao' must be the the embodiment of the 5th Glorious
>Mystery, the
> enthronement and crowning of the Blessed Virngin Mary as the Queen of All
>Heaven.
>
Re: [Goanet] Back to the Past: Ferry crossing at Agassaim-Cortalim
Yep, I did the ferry crossing driving the car across on those narrow portable ramps quite a number of times. And many a time, inexperienced drivers mostly from out-of-state, especially buses, used to invariably get the manoeuvre incorrect, and be left for a while stuck with one wheel in the water ... PS Those who state that the Portuguese did nothing for Goa, kindly indicate which other state in India had such flat-boat ferries in service to allow people + cars + buses cross a river, in the 50s and 60s. And there is a story about a Portuguese general's car giving way to some civilian's at some ferry crossing... try the same with an Indian general and see where you get. - Original Message > From: JoeGoaUk > To: goa...@goanet.org > Sent: Mon, 15 November, 2010 7:00:45 PM > Subject: [Goanet] Back to the Past: Ferry crossing at Agassaim-Cortalim > > > > Back to the Past: Ferry crossing at Agassaim-Cortalim > > a video clip > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF91vL5cKS0 > > Except there was no Zuari Bridge nor Konkan Railways Trains > > Our yesterday's experience has brough back son many menories > > Note: Pax and vehicles used Ferryboats to cross Zuari river until mid 80s > As an antigue, I also remember those days where ferryboats had no ramps as >they > > have now. Instead, the crew members, upon reaching the jetty, used to lift >the two > > long platforms using long iron rod/ hook. The two tracks (paltforms) were > less than a meter wide each (with no railings), people used to exit first > followed by the vehicles. > Also, remember, the present sick 'pul' or the bridge took about 15 years to >complete?
Re: [Goanet] Renationalisation in a Flat World-III
A few questions: 1. Why is Goa a popular "retirement" location or a location for a "holiday home" for the high and mighty of India? Could not Ratnagiri or Karwar for that matter, be an equally good location? Also applies to IFFI and local tourists. 2. How was it in the 60s and early 70s, when one came to Goa by road, one could immediately discern the remarkable difference in body-language, mode of dress and general composure between people across the borders? (Today, the lines have diluted quite a lot...) What do you reckon made the difference? 3. Who stopped Sati? Who indicated equality of women in succession? As a prominent historian (now living in Portugal) has said that a Hindu priest who had come to Goa from another part of India, found out that Goan Hindus were different, and had to leave. What made the Goan Hindus different from the Hindus of the rest of India? Dr. Nandkumar Kamat asks whether the people of Goa were living in the dark Ages. I don't know. But if burning a widow live is not Dark Ages, I don't know what is. 4. Isn't the codigo civil of 1867 still followed in Goa? If this was no good, would it have been followed now nearly 50 years later? 5. Wasn't there a sort of "gentileza" been inculcated in the psyche of a Goan? of Trust and Honesty, which has now practically all but disappeared from Goa? Selma's article re Goans in English East Africa about being able to trust Goans with the keys of all the safes in East Africa, not enough to indicate that there was indeed a difference between the Portuguese Goan and the Indian of the times? Cheers, Gabriel. - Original Message > From: U. G. Barad > To: goanet@lists.goanet.org > Sent: Mon, 6 December, 2010 12:14:18 PM > Subject: [Goanet] Renationalisation in a Flat World-III > > In today’s NT, Dr. Nandakumar Kamat, under subject titled above, gives > explanations to factual realities prevailing during (and before) Portuguese > rule in Goa. Read more at: > > http://www.navhindtimes.in/opinion/renationalisation-flat-world-iii > > IT is a myth that the Portuguese had a civilising influence in Goa. > Civilisation is not just material wealth, monuments, architecture, drinks > and dress. Were the people of Goa living in the dark ages before the > Portuguese conquest? > Such a statement is an outright insult of the Goan masses which still > celebrate Dhalo, Shigmo, Intruz, Divza, Sangod and can teach the Portuguese > not less than 5000 culinary recipes. The so-called civilising attempt was > the world’s worst and the least discussed form of anthropological > engineering. > >
[Goanet] Song for the day.
Bachelors - Ramona. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpTqTeywqPE&feature=related -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Daily Grook #861
DAILY GROOK #861 FRIEND FIEND by Francis Rodrigues french sailors strike female hearts so deep, love sailing off like theirfrench ship! *GREAT ALL-OCCASION GIFT* http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119017685910
[Goanet] Map – monday muse (6dec’10)
MONDAY MUSE (6 December 2010) MAP Zen philosophy insists that truth has nothing to do with words. It likens Truth and words to a moon and a finger, respectively. Buddha says that though the finger can point to the moon’s location, it is necessary to look beyond the finger to see the moon. Being obsessed with the pointer is pointless. More often than not we tend to spend too much time in analysis of the pointer. If we are discussing whether things are better or worse, we generally get stuck in the validity of concepts and models. Surely it would be better to step out and experience something directly. It is pertinent to note that the map is never the territory. It is just a pointer based on a belief, a perception, an image or a thought process. If the map is right, we may reach our location. But if it is incorrect, we have to discard the map. Most of the time, our map keeps changing depending on the position we are in and our desired destination. It is okay to have a map, only as long as we know it is a map. It is more important to connect to real territory. Too often, we allow the map to become an addictive restriction. Whether it is our own ego, life purposes or larger community concerns, we would be better off if we move beyond the map and embark on the journey of real experience sans the map. Let’s step out for the real experience to tap… and BE BETTER at moving beyond the map! - Pravin K. Sabnis
Re: [Goanet] Bessaum ghal Saiba, Sharar Goemchea! Boas Festas! Sam Franshisk Xaviera!
This time when I heard the hymn sung in Old Goa, it appears to be no longer "Sharar Goemchea" ... I regret now not picking up the hymn sheet. - Original Message > From: Silviano Barbosa > To: goanet goanet > Sent: Fri, 3 December, 2010 7:33:09 AM > Subject: [Goanet] Bessaum ghal Saiba, Sharar Goemchea! Boas Festas! Sam >Franshisk Xaviera!
[Goanet] Renationalisation in a Flat World-III
In todays NT, Dr. Nandakumar Kamat, under subject titled above, gives explanations to factual realities prevailing during (and before) Portuguese rule in Goa. Read more at: http://www.navhindtimes.in/opinion/renationalisation-flat-world-iii IT is a myth that the Portuguese had a civilising influence in Goa. Civilisation is not just material wealth, monuments, architecture, drinks and dress. Were the people of Goa living in the dark ages before the Portuguese conquest? Such a statement is an outright insult of the Goan masses which still celebrate Dhalo, Shigmo, Intruz, Divza, Sangod and can teach the Portuguese not less than 5000 culinary recipes. The so-called civilising attempt was the worlds worst and the least discussed form of anthropological engineering. Portuguese Gift of Corruption In his well-researched and remarkable essay, Whiteness in Golden Goa-Linschoten on Phenotype (Indian Ocean Studies, Cultural, Social, and Political Perspectives, Eds. Shanti Moorthy and Ashraf Jamal, Routledge, 2010) anthropologist Mr Arun Saldanha has written, "Let us first concentrate on Linschotens remarks on the phenotypes he encountered. Goa harboured in excess of 60,000 residents by the early seventeenth century. The Itinerario constructs a detailed typology of the Goan populations, thereby demonstrating its role as node in flows of migrants and ideas across the Indian Ocean world: the Portuguese and the mestiços; Brahmins, and Hindus in general; Gujuratis and Banjans from Cambay; Canares and Decanijns, labourers and shop keepers from what is now called Karnataka; Arabs; Abyssinians; "the Black People of Mosambique" (i.e. slaves bought from the Southeast African coast); Malabares and Nayros, labourers and gentry from the Kerala coast; and Jews. Ethnic groups in Goa Linschoten does not discuss as such include Armenian, Bengali, Burmese, Chinese, Croatian, Danish, Dutch, English, Flemish, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Malay, Ottoman, Persian, and Sinhalese. Most migrants were poor soldiers and sailors, but some were successful merchants, living in constant tension with the Portuguese rulers and clergy." As pointed out courageously by Professor Ave Cleto Afonso, in his less debated and potentially explosive Introduction to the bilingual new edition of Anotnio De Noronhas The Hindus of Goa and the Portuguese republic (2008) the Goan society as well as the Portuguese have avoided uncomfortable questions. This Introduction needs to be translated in Konkani, Marathi and Hindi and need to be given wide national and international publicity. Portugal, Portuguese and their local collaborators need to be subjected to the same critical analysis which modern historians and scholars apply to other colonial powers. The Portuguese couldnt distinguish between breeding of horses and humans. Colonialism introduced not only the dreaded sexually transmitted diseases but the virus of slave trade as well. Not a single student in Goa today knows that Goa had one of worlds largest slave market for two centuries. The present level of corruption in Goa can easily be traced to the expertise which the Portuguese had in this area. They gifted Goa various forms of corruption. Was this a civilising influence? Treasure Trove that is Konkani Renationalisation is societys spontaneous response against attempts to make it feel alienated and ethnologically and culturally rootless. Human footsteps in Goa date back to paleolithic period. The heartbeats of Indus-Saraswati civilisation were felt in Goa. Before Europeans could spell out Ecotheology, it was being practiced for centuries by the gaonkaris of Goa. Most of the Lusophiles who nostalgically sing the glories of Portuguese colonial rule have deliberately erased their rich pre-Portuguese past. The Gouly from vagheri is not worried about his identity and need not be reminded about his patriotism. The Velips of Gaundogri are deeply rooted in Indian cultural ethos. The Kunbis of Salcete or the gavdes of Carambolim convey the same message-they are clear in their heads about their sense of belonging to this land and soil. The trouble with the Lusophilic section is that they can hardly read, write or express themselves in fluent Konkani. It is a pity that in such hands Goas colonial and post colonial history is getting mischievously re-engineered and published. Idiomatically, where Konkani language stands among 7000 living languages of the world? Given less than five million speakers, Konkani is richly endowed with more than 5000 proverbs, despite linguistic cultural genocide for three centuries. Three centuries of bulldozing did not crush Goas 50 different folk forms. People went on their knees but did not bend their cultural spine. People did not wish to disconnect from their Indian ethos. So the ancient village mand continued with the mando. Ghumot had no objection for Guitar or mandolin. To counter fascist denationalising forces, people continued to renational
[Goanet] Press Note - Meet the Artiste - John Claro Fernandes
*Press Note* *For Favour of Publication* *Meet the Artiste – John Claro Fernandes* ‘Tiatr artistes must love the art of Tiatr, its Song & Music. If they really love it, the performance of the tiatr or of the song will definitely be of great quality’ said Mr.John Claro Fernandes - a veteran artiste of tiatr stage. He was speaking in TAG’s monthly *‘Kolakarak Bhett’* (Meet the Artiste) programme on 30th November 2010. Speaking further Mr.John Claro Fernandes who has completed 80 years of age recently disclosed that production and staging of tiatr was a sort of mission for the tiatr artistes of yesteryears. There was no financial attraction at that time compared to the present times he stated. Answering questions he informed that his most popular tiatr was *‘Purtugez Kolvont’* and that it was staged over 200 times. However, he further informed of the 15 tiatrs that he has written so far, he considered *‘23 Vorsam’* as his best script. To another question, John Claro Fernandes responded that he acted in the tiatr only once and that too when the hero of the play could not attend the tiatr due to unavoidable circumstances, he (John Claro Fernandes) had no option but to act and save the day. Mr.John Claro Fernandes who was responsible for unearthing the factual history of tiatr during the centenary celebrations of Tiatr in 1992 stated that he enjoyed writing and directing tiatrs and that it has given him fame, name and the greatest satisfaction. Mr. John Claro Fernandes was presented a memento by Shri. Tomazinho Cardozo, President on behalf of Tiatr Academy of Goa. Earlier Shri. Tomazinho Cardozo, President, of TAG welcomed the gathering and Mr. Victor de Sa, Member Secretary proposed a vote of thanks. Shri. Joy Fernandes compared the function. *Victor de Sa* Member Secretary
[Goanet] Chandor villagers want to view RP-21, Joaquim assures to allow this
Chandor villagers want to view RP-21, Joaquim assures to allow this TNN, Dec 6, 2010, 12.20am IST MARGAO: Urban development minister and Cuncolim MLA Joaquim Alemao was confronted with concerns and anxieties voiced by villagers over the regional plan of the village during his visit to Chandor on Sunday to hear grievances of the locals. Pointing out that they were keen to ensure that the inputs suggested by them at the ward and village level committees were incorporated in the final plan, the villagers demanded that they be allowed to view the village plan before it is notified as a part of the state's regional plan. Conceding that the demand was justified, Alemao promised to fix up an appointment with the town and country planning (TCP) department for a meeting with the villagers over the regional plan 2021 with a view to allaying their concerns. The villagers also voiced their grievances over waterlogging of paddy fields in some parts of the village which they said hampered paddy cultivation. The local legislator assured the villagers of convening a meeting with the agriculture and water resources department shortly to address the issues. Alemao also agreed to look into the demand of villagers of developing the Oilem Tollem (lake) in the village as a tourist attraction. With regards to complaints by locals about alleged illegal quarrying of stones in the village, Alemao suggested that as there were conflicting claims over the matter, a joint meeting with panchayat members, concerned villagers and other stakeholders be held to discuss the issue. While Guiridolim villagers demanded construction of a footpath right from the railway crossing to the church, Alemao assured to take up the demand of construction of a bridge over the railway tracks with the Union railway minister. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Chandor-villagers-want-to-view-RP-21-Joaquim-assures-to-allow-this/articleshow/704.cms
