[Goanet-News] NEWS: Goa gets first air conditioned public toilet (IANS)
Goa gets first air conditioned public toilet IANS, Jan 8, 2011, 01.49pm IST PANAJI: Goa's first air conditioned public toilet was Saturday installed at chief minister Digambar Kamat's legislative assembly constituency in Margao, 35 km from here. The toilet was built at a cost of Rs 20 lakh, which was shared between the local municipality and sanitation specialist Sulabh International (SI), according to a SI spokesperson. An SI official said the air conditioner installed inside the loo is sensor operated. In July last year, during the monsoon session of the Goa legislative assembly, the opposition legislators had accused the chief minister of being elitist and had questioned his sense of priorities. The debate on the air conditioned toilet in Kamat's constituency had lasted nearly 10 minutes July 21 and had shades of both, seriousness and trivia. The Margao garden is considered as the most prestigious garden in the state. So what if there is an AC toilet. Once it is ready, a split AC could be fitted later, Kamat had said, endorsing the air conditioned loo. Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) legislator Vijay Pai Khot, a theatre artist popular for his sense of humour, said: Are you (Kamat) all really serious about having an AC toilet? It is a closed space...If someone uses it, the whole toilet will smell. Known for his acerbic wit, Leader of Opposition Manohar Parrikar red flagged the concept citing an even more compelling argument. If someone steps into an AC toilet, he will not like to come out of it. Read more: Goa gets first air conditioned public toilet - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-gets-first-air-conditioned-public-toilet/articleshow/7241422.cms#ixzz1AUPYtY7K --- NEW BOOK: 'PATRIOTISM IN ACTION: Goans in Indias Defence Services' Copies now available at: GOA: Literati (2277740), Other India (2263306), Broadway (6647038), Mandovi (2427904), Noel DSilva Associates (9823120454 / 9096781714), Confidant / Golden Heart Emp (2732450), David Co (2730326), Vardaan (9527463684) SERV / RETD Def Offrs in Goa: O/o Sainik Co-op Hse Bldg Sty, Def Col, Porvorim (2417288) MUMBAI: David Co (22019010) PUNE: Manneys (26131683), Popular (25678327) BENGALURU: Narayan (22865800) DELHI: Ritana (24617278) ONLINE (worldwide delivery): http://www.ritanabooks.com/booksdistri.htm, http://goa1556.goa-india.org ---
[Goanet] Neither Hindus nor Muslims are entitled for AY ODHYA land.
This is really funny.The very word AYODHYA belongs to what,is well known.The gamut about the courts is created to fool the people and waste valuable time and energy. It is the former world conquerers who created a written history and the laws and courts.No one knows what Human Values are and they are trying to establish ,what Human Rights are with the help of the Laws created by them.It would be good if the time,energy and intelligence is utilized in the interest of Human Values.Everyone knows that all humans would like to LIVE with LOVE and PEACE,whatever religion they follow.The MEDIA has to do some workout for Human Values and not for Human Rights. With best regards, Damodar(Shyam) Bale, 11-Winton Road, East Brunswick,NJ-08816, U.S.A.
[Goanet] Food prices at the Indian Parliament canteen
On and off on Goanetters share their culinary interests, disinterests, steals, scoops, the best this for that price; as also nascent affiliations to the word, gourmand. Came across some prices of food at the Indian Parliament Canteen via FB, and then across a blog named AWARENESS. (excerpt from the blog AWARENESS) http://awareness-2009.blogspot.com/2011/01/parliament-canteens-menu-card.html MPs, who are seen shouting at each other and castigating the government over the rising food prices, definitely relish the cheap canteen food. But, mind you, the facility is not for them only. Parliament staff, low-paid security personnel and accredited journalists too enjoy the delicacies at rates which an ordinary citizen outside cannot even think of. Now people will know what we really are--who we really are--what we truly stand for? Nothing really, and certainly not for the common. Its easy for any Indian to say Mera Desh Mahan. But what does it mean? What other choice does one have in an attempt to affirm oneself? What-- no avial for these arbiters of misery? Am sure the molagapoddhi is free with the dosai. All one may hope is that the fish, poultry and veggies are contaminated! Any idea whether similar prices exist or have been beaten at the Goa Legislative Assembly. Does anyone know the menu and prices? venantius j pinto
[Goanet] The Psychology of Roman Catholicism
The Psychology of Roman Catholicism As a child of twelve I was taken to the local church on a Sunday, which I will never forget because it was so humorous. What struck me immediately were the great number of old, old people, a few young men and women, and of course a lot of pre-adolescent boys and girls of my age who were being shepherded lest we go astray for life. At the time I did not understand why it was so. Now, decades later, the answer is quite simple, and I know that I don't need a doctorate in theology to understand this mystery. It is death, dear old death, or rather, the fear of death for people who have not lived their lives fully. Otherwise, death is the conclusion of a life well lived. A natural and welcome conclusion, you might say. And as we get older death has a nasty habit of knocking louder and harder on our doors even though our hearing gets weaker and weaker. The young people at the time, and as always, have a great river of life flowing freely in their veins, and thus are not so susceptible to the scare tactics of the priests. Yes, the churches were and still are full of old, old people. Where is the laughter? I wondered. Is God against laughter in church? Is being long-faced a necessary requirement to communicate with God, in church or outside? Why is laughter banned in church? Is it the wrong place and time to laugh? If you laughed heartily, would God be offended? Why or why not were some of the questions which flooded my young mind at the time. Meanwhile the priest thundered on, how God will punish us for our sins. Do you want to go to hell after you die? And so on. Today, decades later, I know there is another word for Christianity which I didn't know then: Guiltianity! This is because the quality of guilt is of paramount importance. At the time, and even today, I can't see how a new-born baby who cannot talk, let alone walk, can be a sinner! I think this is insanity! What is this thing known as Original Sin, if not an instrument of the priests to poison your being, control you, and then 'save you'? The Roman Catholic Church has a great number of devices and techniques whose function is to make us miserable, to war within ourselves, until we beg them to 'save' us from ourselves; the strategy is to divide each person psychologically and then to 'save' the divided person. What fun! Beware! The priests of the Roman Catholic Church are leeches who feed on their congregation and instill a lot of guilt and fear into us. And all the stories, such as the virgin birth of Jesus, the immaculate conception, and the flying up of Jesus into Space can only have a devastating influence on the better educated minds of the 21st century. Do priests, who themselves are rather well educated, really believe in these stories? Or are they pretending? They are good actors, I would say, and far better actors than those in the tiatr. Cheers! The Roman Catholics don't really believe these stories, and their belief is more in saints and others than in Jesus Christ. They also pretend and have the attitude that since we are saved we can do anything and get away with it! Bad luck, non-believers! What fun! We Goans have put the cart before the horse. Before we try to salvage Goa we need to heal ourselves, we need to get rid of the poison of Christianity and reclaim our being. Unless we do that first, there can be nothing second. Have a nice Sunday!
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: The Catholic Bigot, the Hindu Right and Goan Citizenship (Jason Keith Fernandes, GT)
Hi Goans Everywhere, I found this article very interesting, as there still exists quite a number of Goans -- in GOA -- who, like ostriches, continue to stick their heads in the ground and do not acknowledge the progress that Goa has made since liberation in 1961 -- and represent a stumbling block to further development. What can other more liberal Goans do about such odd characters? Cheers Aloysius Wheat from Chaff The Catholic Bigot, the Hindu Right and Goan Citizenship By Jason Keith Fernandes jason_keith_fernan...@yahoo.co.in 'Ghar ki murgi dal barabar' (the gravy of the home-bred chicken tastes like lentil soup) and 'the grass is greener on the other side of the fence' in addition to the obvious, also seem to capture perfectly a widespread social tendency. Very often we are so bothered with what is going-on on the other side of the fence that we forget to adequately focus on issues that crop up within our 'own' backyard. Oftentimes it may seem that I am so caught up with decrying the histrionics of the Hindu Right, both in Goa and elsewhere, that I forget to focus adequately on the Catholic bigot (CB). There was however, no way I could ignore this bigot given a number of emails I have recently been subject to, which seem determined to painfully flesh out every nuance that the CB holds. Despite the fact that I often time focus on caste and class location as a way of identifying social tendencies, I would like to identify the CB not with caste or class -- though these definitely play a role -- but with a mindset. Perhaps belonging to the Catholic club allows one to forget one's social location and think like the bigots, given that these bigots ruled the Goan roost for a long, long time. Thinking like them, who knows we might persuade them and ourselves that we are like them? At the risk of committing a grave historiographical error, let us locate the origins of the Catholic bigot in the circles of Goa's colonial Catholic elite. These ladies and gentlemen used Portuguese as a way of distinguishing themselves, not just from the lower orders among the Catholics (who spoke Concanim) but from the 'Hindus' as well. The Portuguese language was, as is the case with certain varieties of Konknni, their caste marker. With the rise of Indian nationalism across the border with British-India however, they persuaded themselves to think better of their caste brethren in the Hindu fold. Nevertheless the fact that they were not Catholic or linked to the Portuguese colonial power structure in the same social network ensured that they always thought of their upper-caste cousins across the religious divide as the poorer, less civilized cousin. Indeed, a good amount of the Hindutva animosity that the Goan Catholic has to deal with today is linked to this cultural superciliousness. We should not forget however that the non-elite Goan too suffered from this superciliousness, at the hands of these CBs. Given that these elite groups effectively represented themselves as the paragons of Goan Catholic culture, they wound up giving all Catholics a bad name. A case of pretty houses, but such bad manners!!! This cultural superciliousness however, is one of the significant burdens that a number of Goan Catholics unwittingly carry, even though their own personal histories are not twined with those of those who originated it. These CBs for the most part loved Tio António Oliveira Salazar. The days he presided over Portugal (and this included Goa) are indeed the glory years in CB imagination. Those were the days, we are told, when 'we' had genuine law and order in Goa. Order equaled the oppression of the 'lower' social orders and ensured a situation where everyone knew their 'place'. This is not to say that the CBs were the only one who loved Tio António, but let us leave the colonial Goan Hindu elites alone for now. The problem with social oppression however, is that you are oppressed yourself, even while you oppress other people. Add to this our noxious caste hierarchy and you wind up with an elaborate ladder of social oppression that rests critically on constant humiliation. Thus, it is possible to find a good number of CBs from outside of the absolute top of the social ladder, merely because it was so much fun to spit on someone lower than you and pretend like you were one of those at the top. Nothing, it appears, salves a wound better than the spit you hurl at others. Another feature of the CB is their self-love of their social backgrounds; their 'good' and 'old' families. Their self-understanding is of being cultured, which however is in fact the mere ad nauseum repetition of social traditions of the past, and the display of inherited furniture (and other heirlooms) that keep diminishing with every passing generation. So concerned are they with keeping up appearances, an integral part of a social system based on scorn for the inferior, that
[Goanet] COMMENT: Goa Grape Escape Must Go On (Subhash Arora)
Goa Grape Escape Must Go On The annual Goan wine festival known as the Food and Lifestyle Festival Goa, must go on despite protests by misinformed, well-meaning women during the 4-day private visit on Monday by the Honourable President of India, Shrimati Pratibha Patil, urging her to put a stop to the wine festival to be held for the seventh year in State’s Capital Panjim, writes Subhash Arora . Bailancho Saad, a women’s rights group protested a couple of days ago and requested President Pratibha Patil who came to the State on Monday on a personal 4-day visit, to ‘stop the sale of wine and liquor at government premises.’ 'As the constitutional head, you are required to uphold the directive principles of the constitution prohibiting state governments from promoting alcohol,' Bailancho Saad Convener, Sabina Martins reportedly said in her memorandum submitted to India’s First Lady on Tuesday evening. They drew strength from Mrs. Patil’s aversion to alcohol. She is reported to have often referred to the evils of alcohol in her speeches after she took over as the President. She had expressed concern about growing alcoholism at a speech in Kochi over a year ago. This is where the well-meaning ladies are misinformed, thus resulting in misdirected anger and frustration. They do not comprehend that wine and alcohol (liquor) are not the same thing. Wine is a lifestyle product the promotion of which (lifestyle, i.e.) is the main objective of the festival and generally speaking,it has nothing to do with the alcoholism that Madame Patil rightly talked about. Interestingly, due to the archaic policies of the State, Kerala is practically a dry State so far as wine is concerned- so Madame was surely not complaining about wine in Kerala The ladies also brought out their prejudice in the open by twisting the words and spirit of the Constitution by telling Shrimati Patil, ‘you are required to uphold the directive principles of the constitution prohibiting state governments from promoting alcohol.’ Article 47 of the Constitution of India says that ‘the State shall endeavour to bring about prohibition of the consumption except for medicinal purpose of intoxicating drinks and of drugs which are injurious to health.’ Not only are there no States except Gujarat and Mizoram (local made wine was allowed to be sold there recently) where there is prohibition, these well-meaning women are perhaps not aware of the fact that illegal, spurious and bootlegged liquor is available more freely than perhaps the neighbouring states, at least in Gujrat. The Article 47 of the Constitutional explicitly excluded the drinks for ‘medicinal purposes.’ Throughout history, various doctors and philosophers have enunciated upon the health benefits of wine but during the last thirty years hundreds of scientific medical studies have been carried out- most evidencing health benefits of wine when taken in moderation. Several ayurvedic preparations already use fermented grapes in concntrated form in several formulations. Goa Tourism Development Corporation Ltd has been organising the festival annually for the last 6 years, in association with Department of Tourism. The seventh edition is being held at the multiplex Inox Courtyard in Panaji (Panjim) every evening on 27-31 January. It is usually held at the end of the peak season which starts fizzling out by January- end. One of the objectives behind organizing this festival is to promote 'Brand Goa' to the rest of the world by providing an opportunity to the visitors to sample Goa as a lifestyle destination. Several wineries, hoteliers and restaurateurs present a range of wines and international gastronomical delights, including fusion cuisine and exotic desserts. ‘What the festival offers is an opportunity to taste and sample wines from several producers-mostly Indian although foreign wines were also present last year,’ says Kawaljeet Singh, National Sales Manager of Big Banyan, one of the very few wineries in the State. Although wine is the real protagonist, there are several other attractions for the young and old alike- there are cultural shows, live music and fashion shows. The selection of The Grape Escapade Queen 2011 is another highlight on the last day Not only are the visitors in a position to taste uncountable number of wines available for sampling, they can buy what they like at good discounts. The wineries are happy to participate despite the presence required for four days because they are able to educate the novices and impress the connoisseurs with their wines- organising and participating in such wine tastings is an accepted international practice in every wine producing country. The threat posed by the women’s group notwithstanding, another danger is lurking on the horizon. The organisers reportedly are demanding Rs.46,000 as the participating fee from the wineries who find it too steep, especially as it was around Rs.30,000 last year. They feel that since they are doing a lot
[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Enough is Enough
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH Kalchea sumanant, Bharotantlea Bihar prantan, ek dharun ghoddni ghoddli. Sipahi Tola motdar-songhantlea tticher Rupam Pathak-an, Purnia vattharantlea BJP-che MLA Raj Kishore Keshari-ak, soglleanchea dixtti mukhar suren ghayal korun, aktak jiv kaddlo. Ghelea tin vorsam pontim, lingisonbondi piddapidd (sexual harassment), hal korop ani bhirant divn Rupam-ank sottavchi chal MLA Raj Keshari-k asli . Dekhunuch, tinnem pulisek tokrar dil’li. Guneavkarachi koslich chovkoxi zaina ani sottavpachem chaluch aslelem pollevn, tticher Rupam-an, kaido aplea hatant ghetlo. Tticher Rupam Pathak-a vixim, ami choddxem sangunk xekonant. Punn, amkam khatren mell’lole khobre pormonnem, Rupam Pathak ek post-graduate ostori ani apnnalem ek kazgi iskol choloitali. Tin vorsam adim, tichea iskol ugttavnnechea dobajeak, MLA Raj Keshri-k amontronn dil'lem. Thoimsorlean, MLA Raj ani tticher Rupamanchi dhatt ixttagott. Tumkam ugddas kortam. Dezembr 17ver, 2009 vorsa Moddganv Kharebandar, Filsu alias Rani hea sodol sobhavache ostoren, apnnachea angar hat ghatlo mhunn, vaitt prosiddicho (notorious) ani sodankal guneanv adarpi Tadev Diniz-achea horddeant suri topun, akthak jivexim marlolo. Tadev ani Filsuchi dattayen ixttagott choltali khori. Punn jedna, ostoreche khuxe add nhoi tea zagear hat laun zoborddosten lingsonbond zhoddpachi daddlo monis khotpott korta tedna thodde khepek ostoreche mendvak tiddok choddun hotea (murder) zavpasarki ghozali uprastat. Ani oxem kitem kay tea vellar ghodil'lem. Daddleachea nodrek ostoreo sodanch ek utholl (shallow) ani sokoilim (inferior) distat. Punn aicheo adhunik (modern) ostoreo hem mandun ghevnk fattim sortat. Zaum tem voiziki, izner, IT, komputer, viman cholovpi, ani sabar her xrestan daddlea porim atancheo ostoreo vavurthat. Desache Prodhan, Raxtripodd, Rajkoronn samballtat zalear, chondran porian ostori pavloli asa. Tor ostorek, daddlea sarko upchar (treatment) ani unchlo zago kiteak mellona zait? Ostori, bhurgeank zolman haddpachem ek yontr (machine) mhunn, ami daddle adim thavn hea somzonen chuklole asat kai? MLA Raj Kesharik, Purnia vattharantlea Sipali Tola motdarsonghantlea lokan, segit char pavtti nivddun haddlolo ek fuddari asle. Lokache koxtt ani gorzo suttaveo korpa khatir tacho vavr poilo zavn aslo. Punn pott-dovdire fuddari lhanxe kama velean lonch (bribe) magtat. Sorkari sirvis zai tor, thoddea noxttea fuddareanchi kuddichi as bhagonvchi poddta. Zaitea ostoreank lip-choriam kuddichem bolidan korchem asta. Char pavtti vichun kaddlolea MLA Raj Keshri, tticher Rupamacho faido kaddtalo, te toren tannem ghelea kaim vorsam anink kitlea ostoreancho faido kaddlo nam zait? Tache vixim odik mahiti mellpak ami Biharant vochun, MLA Raj Keshri-chi kortubanchi tagddi zokchi goroz nam. Amcheach Goyant, tunvem-hanvem nivddun haddlole fuddari, ostori prannink koxe toren sottaytat tem, ami potrancher vachlam ani urlolem TV-ir pollelam. Hoi ki nam? Biharchi Rupam Pathak-an ani Goychi Filsu alias Rani-n eksarke soglleanchea dixtti samkara hotea keleat. Angar khantto haddpi sarkelem itlem dharun khortub adarpak, tankam koxem boll ailem zait? Hachi zap mellpak, tankam porxim mellpachi amkam goroz asa?. Bail-monis osokt pranni aslelean, daddlo monis ticho choddan chodd faido gheta. Punn jedna xime bhair vagnnunk pavta tedna mat ostori dharun zavpak daddloch zababdari thorta. Eka lhanxea kama khatir, jivitbhor gulamponnan ravpak thoddeank sonsona. Nitichea darar marlear osokt ostorek nit mellona. Ani oxem kitem kai Filsu ani Rupam-ache jivitan ghoddlam. Tech khatir, jiv ghevpa xivay dusro upay tankam suchlo nam. Ghelea vorsa 2010 Setembrant, Filsu alias Rani-nk Moddganv-Kharebandeche Tadev Diniz-achea khunna babtin, favo te purave nasun tika suttka dili. Tadevak suren topun martana zaitea zannanim khas dolleamni pollelo. Punn kortint mat sot sangpak, konnuch toyar na zalo. Kiteak? Tadev oslea sodankal guneanv adarpeak oslich kheast favo mhunn, lokak dislem kai? Ani Rupam-a vixim nikall koso lagtolo? Biharcho MLA Raj ek vhodd ani segit char pavtti nivddun haddlolo chalu BJP-cho sorkaracho ek vangddi. Rajkornnacho dobhav poddun Rupam-ank kheast favo zatoli? Vo favo te purave nasun, suttka melltoli? Velluch sangtolo. Lino B. Dourado http://aitaracheokaskuleo.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] Neither Hindus nor Muslims are entitled for AYODHYA
I think we all know that the courts are referring to here is about 'Ayodhya land' where once stood the Moslem iconic mosque, the Babri Masjid. Yes, Ayodhya is definitely a Hindu related word, but it also happens to be the name of the place where the Babri Masjid stood proud until the Hindu fanatics decided to take the law into their own hands and destroy this Moslem Heritage mosque. And now they want to go one step further and claim the land where the mosque stood! That land should be rightfully handed back to the Moslem community in Ayodhya with Government grants to help them rebuild their revered place of worship. I just wonder what Human Values Mr Bale is talking about here. And what ticks him so he feels it is funny. Did he have a good laugh when the Babri Masjid was destroyed? Salus Correia Message: 3 Date: 9 Jan 2011 02:20:02 - From: damodar vinayak bale dvb...@rediffmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Neither Hindus nor Muslims are entitled for AYODHYA land. Message-ID: 20110109022002.52981.qm...@f4mail-234-241.rediffmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This is really funny.The very word AYODHYA belongs to what,is well known.The gamut about the courts is created to fool the people and waste valuable time and energy. It is the former world conquerers who created a written history and the laws and courts.No one knows what Human Values are and they are trying to establish ,what Human Rights are with the help of the Laws created by them.It would be good if the time,energy and intelligence is utilized in the interest of Human Values.Everyone knows that all humans would like to LIVE with LOVE and PEACE,whatever religion they follow.The MEDIA has to do some workout for Human Values and not for Human Rights. With best regards, Damodar(Shyam) Bale, 11-Winton Road, East Brunswick,NJ-08816, U.S.A.
Re: [Goanet] The Psychology of Roman Catholicism
Goanetters all, Goan Catholics beware! The New Anti-Christ has just come up from his Satanic place below. Does this silly man have to bring up this sort of stuff on a non religious forum like goanet? Who is he kidding? Nascy Caldeira. --- On Sun, 9/1/11, Joao Barros-Pereira joaobarrospere...@gmail.com wrote: The Psychology of Roman Catholicism As a child of twelve I was taken to the local church on a Sunday, which I will never forget because it was so humorous. What struck me immediately were the great number of old, old people, a few young men and women, and of course a lot of pre-adolescent boys and girls of my age who were being shepherded lest we go astray for life.
[Goanet] Song for the day!
Michael Bublé - Begin The Beguine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6-FSc3CpQI -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] The Psychology of Roman Catholicism
What are you 'wearing' a name like that for? you should change it, it sounds very 'Christian'... Orlando - Original Message - From: Joao Barros-Pereira joaobarrospere...@gmail.com To: goanet goa...@goanet.org Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 8:13 AM Subject: [Goanet] The Psychology of Roman Catholicism The Psychology of Roman Catholicism As a child of twelve I was taken to the local church on a Sunday, which I will never forget because it was so humorous. What struck me immediately were the great number of old, old people, a few young men and women, and of course a lot of pre-adolescent boys and girls of my age who were being shepherded lest we go astray for life. At the time I did not understand why it was so. Now, decades later, the answer is quite simple, and I know that I don't need a doctorate in theology to understand this mystery. It is death, dear old death, or rather, the fear of death for people who have not lived their lives fully. Otherwise, death is the conclusion of a life well lived. A natural and welcome conclusion, you might say. And as we get older death has a nasty habit of knocking louder and harder on our doors even though our hearing gets weaker and weaker. The young people at the time, and as always, have a great river of life flowing freely in their veins, and thus are not so susceptible to the scare tactics of the priests. Yes, the churches were and still are full of old, old people. Where is the laughter? I wondered. Is God against laughter in church? Is being long-faced a necessary requirement to communicate with God, in church or outside? Why is laughter banned in church? Is it the wrong place and time to laugh? If you laughed heartily, would God be offended? Why or why not were some of the questions which flooded my young mind at the time. Meanwhile the priest thundered on, how God will punish us for our sins. Do you want to go to hell after you die? And so on. Today, decades later, I know there is another word for Christianity which I didn't know then: Guiltianity! This is because the quality of guilt is of paramount importance. At the time, and even today, I can't see how a new-born baby who cannot talk, let alone walk, can be a sinner! I think this is insanity! What is this thing known as Original Sin, if not an instrument of the priests to poison your being, control you, and then 'save you'? The Roman Catholic Church has a great number of devices and techniques whose function is to make us miserable, to war within ourselves, until we beg them to 'save' us from ourselves; the strategy is to divide each person psychologically and then to 'save' the divided person. What fun! Beware! The priests of the Roman Catholic Church are leeches who feed on their congregation and instill a lot of guilt and fear into us. And all the stories, such as the virgin birth of Jesus, the immaculate conception, and the flying up of Jesus into Space can only have a devastating influence on the better educated minds of the 21st century. Do priests, who themselves are rather well educated, really believe in these stories? Or are they pretending? They are good actors, I would say, and far better actors than those in the tiatr. Cheers! The Roman Catholics don't really believe these stories, and their belief is more in saints and others than in Jesus Christ. They also pretend and have the attitude that since we are saved we can do anything and get away with it! Bad luck, non-believers! What fun! We Goans have put the cart before the horse. Before we try to salvage Goa we need to heal ourselves, we need to get rid of the poison of Christianity and reclaim our being. Unless we do that first, there can be nothing second. Have a nice Sunday!
Re: [Goanet] Diaspora Links: At IC Colony.... and Hubli
Dear Mr Noronha: Your reference to Hubli in a recent issue of goanet brought back memories of another time and another world half a century ago -- painful at that time, nostalgic 50 years hence. The cast of three three of us involved -- Tony Mascarenhas, Jimmy D'Cruz and myself. All three had graduated with Geology as our primary subject from that renowned Jesuit institution, St Xavier's College in Bombay. Frankly, there were no prospects for a geology graduate anywhere close to Bombay. Tony and Jimmy who had graduated earlier than myself. They very wisely started a small hands-on laboratary Londa which was close enough to civilisation to make life tolerable. My own good fortune took me to a place called Supa aa meaagre outpot situated on the Belgaum-Dharwar bus route, From: Frederick Noronha One of the newer settings in which Goans have based themselves is I.C. Colony at Borivali. The colony gets its name from the Immaculate Conception Church in the locality, and many Goan families which once stayed in the heart of town have moved there in recent years. Just learnt of the launch of a Goan Cultural Association at the I.C. Colony. It can be contacted at La Paloma, Opposite Corporation Bank, I C Colony, Borivali (West) Mumbai 400103. Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/
[Goanet] Miraculous Cross feast at Anjuna
The feast of Miraculous Cross at Anjuna Hill will be celebrated on January 10 at 4:30 pm with the Eucharistic celebration. This year, the feast will be celebrated by Placido Carvalho, Agnes and Pearl Carvalho. http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2010-January/188401.html Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna, Goa Mob: 9420979201
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: The Catholic Bigot, the Hindu Right and Goan Citizenship (Jason Keith Fernandes, GT)
Of course there are CB's everywhere, but Messers Keith Aloysious do well to point out that this Region may have had double or triple dose of the CB viruses, mainly (if not wholly) the consequence of European colonial influence formed by a combination of 'absolutist' assumptions (Portuguese Monarchism + Romanist Triumphalism), boiled down to a heady concentrate in Salazar Fascism. Recently I discovered the work of Imelda Dias, whose life story is told in two slender volumes now in Panjim bookshops---HOW LONG IS FOREVER, and TO LOVE AND LIVE AGAIN. It strikes me that anyone wishing to get the true flavor of what the CD culture meant in Goan family life (with CD hopefully now in recession, regionally) might take time to read her story. The earnest belief that one's traditionally conditioned value system must be right, and has to be passed on, has been 'gotten honestly' through teaching methodology now recognized as obsolete and even harmful. Let's not get into the blame game; Imelda Dias's Papa was, and is a good and well-meaning person, as she herself would be the first to assert. His authoritarianism was the natural consequence of received values and upbringing. It will now be up to our collective ability to adjust educational criteria, if there is to be a break in that crippling chain. And clergy (Church Hierarchy) cannot 'leave it to the school system'; something has to change in 'catechism class'! On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Aloysius D'Souza smhsda...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Goans Everywhere, I found this article very interesting, as there still exists quite a number of Goans -- in GOA -- who, like ostriches, continue to stick their heads in the ground and do not acknowledge the progress that Goa has made since liberation in 1961 -- and represent a stumbling block to further development. What can other more liberal Goans do about such odd characters? Cheers Aloysius Wheat from Chaff The Catholic Bigot, the Hindu Right and Goan Citizenship By Jason Keith Fernandes jason_keith_fernan...@yahoo.co.in 'Ghar ki murgi dal barabar' (the gravy of the home-bred chicken tastes like lentil soup) and 'the grass is greener on the other side of the fence' in addition to the obvious, also seem to capture perfectly a widespread social tendency. Very often we are so bothered with what is going-on on the other side of the fence that we forget to adequately focus on issues that crop up within our 'own' backyard. Oftentimes it may seem that I am so caught up with decrying the histrionics of the Hindu Right, both in Goa and elsewhere, that I forget to focus adequately on the Catholic bigot (CB). There was however, no way I could ignore this bigot given a number of emails I have recently been subject to, which seem determined to painfully flesh out every nuance that the CB holds. Despite the fact that I often time focus on caste and class location as a way of identifying social tendencies, I would like to identify the CB not with caste or class -- though these definitely play a role -- but with a mindset. Perhaps belonging to the Catholic club allows one to forget one's social location and think like the bigots, given that these bigots ruled the Goan roost for a long, long time. Thinking like them, who knows we might persuade them and ourselves that we are like them? At the risk of committing a grave historiographical error, let us locate the origins of the Catholic bigot in the circles of Goa's colonial Catholic elite. These ladies and gentlemen used Portuguese as a way of distinguishing themselves, not just from the lower orders among the Catholics (who spoke Concanim) but from the 'Hindus' as well. The Portuguese language was, as is the case with certain varieties of Konknni, their caste marker. With the rise of Indian nationalism across the border with British-India however, they persuaded themselves to think better of their caste brethren in the Hindu fold. Nevertheless the fact that they were not Catholic or linked to the Portuguese colonial power structure in the same social network ensured that they always thought of their upper-caste cousins across the religious divide as the poorer, less civilized cousin. Indeed, a good amount of the Hindutva animosity that the Goan Catholic has to deal with today is linked to this cultural superciliousness. We should not forget however that the non-elite Goan too suffered from this superciliousness, at the hands of these CBs. Given that these elite groups effectively represented themselves as the paragons of Goan Catholic culture, they wound up giving all Catholics a bad name. A case of pretty houses, but such bad manners!!! This cultural superciliousness however, is one of the significant burdens that a number of Goan Catholics unwittingly carry, even though their own personal histories are not twined with those of those
[Goanet] Selma Carvalho: Who the Bleep cares about us Catholic Goans?
This week: Who the Bleep cares about us Catholic Goans? By Selma Carvalho Source: Goan Voice Weekly Newsletter 9 January 2011 at www.goanvoice.org.uk The Goan Catholic has come in for a bad name recently. Ever since the Portuguese ship NRP Sagres docked at Goa's harbour, there's been turmoil. Old wounds have opened up. The Goan Catholic has been called unpatriotic, a Salazar-sympathiser, culturally rootless and worst of all a bigot who thinks of himself as better than other Indians. I say hooey to all this! The Goan Catholic is what he is and he has every right to his own cultural inclination and world-view because it is carved out of his own experience. First of all, let's put our facts in order when examining the Goan Catholic. When the French missionary Reverend Denis Louis Cottineau de Kloguen visited Goa circa 1830, he observed that the Sudra (the lowest Hindu caste) formed the largest part of Christian converts and that they were not as respected as the Chardo and Brahmins but that their situation was considerably better than their Hindu counterparts and that the privileges accorded to the other two castes were slowly being conceded to them as well. So, in fact the vast majority of Goan Catholics came from the lowest rungs of the Hindu caste hierarchy and the landed, upper-caste Goan formed only a sliver of the population. If the Goan Catholic came to believe that his life had improved because of conversion, it was because it had. Historian Fatima da Silva Gracias in her fascinating book, Women in Goa (I thoroughly recommend this book to every Goan), sheds light on the plight of women in colonial Goa. In 1936 for instance, the number of Hindu prostitutes in Goa was 1,748 and the number of Christian prostitutes was 141. These statistics put paid to the oft propagated stereotype in Bollywood movies of the Goan Catholic woman as sexually immoral and promiscuous. The sad reality of the high rate of Hindu women as prostitutes had nothing to do with morality (prostitution rarely does) but rather the circumstance of ostracisation after widowhood, the resultant poverty, and the institution of girls being attached to temples, invariably leading to prostitution. It's a telling fact that in Konkani the word for prostitute and widow is the same. Fatima da Silva Gracias writes: It appears that in the early period the majority of natives who married Portuguese men were low caste converted Christians..to begin with, native parents were reluctant to marry their daughters to white men but when they realized that they treated them well, the parents came forward to marry their daughters to the Portuguese men. These low-caste converts are what the historian C R Boxer calls, rice-Christians. Contrary to what we might be lead to believe that all Goan converts were forced into conversion, the earliest converts were probably rice-Christians, Boxer contends. People from the lowest rungs of society who were fleeing abject poverty, servitude, oppression and indignity within Hinduism. And if in their new avatar as a Christian man or woman, their life had changed, some dignity was accorded to them, some sustenance was made available to them, did they not then have every right to look back at their former lives with disdain? The truth is Christianity as brought in by the Portuguese did change the lives of a substantive part of the population on the Konkan coast - (let's not forget that the Portuguese were such staunch Catholics they provided a safe haven to Catholicism when the rest of Europe was persecuting Catholics and they escaped the European Reformation altogether). And this population which is not necessarily characterized by the elite, Portuguese-speaking Saraswat Brahmin convert but is represented by the flotsam and jetsam of Goa, encountered their own Reformation. One that lead to them being admitted to communal worship, the rudiments of education in parochial schools, their introduction to classical music and the arts and the women being accorded equal status, however tenuous this might have been. Suddenly these people were accepted as human beings with some worth and value in the eyes of a monotheistic God. This changed their lives forever until each successive generation became convinced that their life with Christianity was fundamentally better to everything they had left behind. It is human nature to want to believe that the future you are embracing is of higher value to you than the past you are putting behind. They have every right to this belief, without it being held to judgment by revisionists or by denial or by calling them names and casting aspersions on their patriotism. If they feel a certain soft-spot for Portugal, so be it; Portugal changed their lives. We are Goan Catholics and proud of it. Do leave your feedback at carvalho_...@yahoo.com Read new reviews of Selma Carvalho's book Into the Diaspora Wilderness at http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/reviews-etc/
[Goanet] Art Exhibition
The First Art Exhibition in Chinchinim, Goa was held at the Chinchinim Community Centre from 4th to 5th January, 2011. Dr. J.W. Malenkos, MD, U.S.A. inaugurated the exhibition which showcased works by artists Dr. Susheela Fernandes, Dr. Savia Viegas, Savia D'Costa, John Pereira, Beatrice (Betty) Braganza and Japanese artist Akeru Barros Pereira whose paintings of Goan Houses were immensely appreciated. The exhibition was hosted by Dr. Max de Loyola Furtado, a Medic by profession and an artist at leisure and his son Ralph de Loyola Furtado, a budding artist. Both their works were also on display. They hope to create an interest in art among the Goan people and encouraging young artists by holding regular art exhibitions and workshops at the Chinchinim Community Centre. Goanet A-C-E! Arts ~ Culture ~ Entertainment
[Goanet] [JudeSundayReflections] Second Sunday of the Year
9-Jan-2011 Dear Friend, Some of us have the task or the duty to introduce significant people to others. From our experience we know that if we have known the person to be introduced very well, it is an easy task and a pleasant duty to introduce a friend, a person whom we admire and love to others. If the person is a stranger, we try to collect information from others, but the introduction becomes impersonal and formal. As Christians it is our joy and privilege to introduce Jesus to others. Do we enjoy introducing Jesus with others? Have a joyful weekend sharing, pointing out Jesus to others! Fr. Jude Sunday Reflections: ‘Second Sunday of the Year –‘Be my witness to the world!’ 16-Jan-2011 Isaiah 49: 3, 5-6; Corinthians 1: 1-3; John 1: 29-34; The first reading from Isaiah reminds us that God calls Israel to be his servant, and gives his servant two commands: to gather the nations that have been scattered, together, back to the land of Israel, and to be a light to the nations. At the start of the passage the servant was an individual, presumably one of the exiles from Jerusalem. However, that servant is identified with the nation of Israel. Our identity is to be the Servant of God. Jesus fulfilled that role and we are called to do the same. We have to witness to God. God Lives in You –Be His Witness Once in a small town in Poland a young boy stood watching a gypsy as he drank from a well in the town square. After drinking, the man stood there, gazing down into the well, as though looking at someone. He was a giant, of a man but had a friendly face. So the boy approached him and asked, ‘Who lives down there?’ “God does’, answered the gypsy. ‘Can I see him?’ ‘Sure you can’, said the gypsy. Then he took the boy into his arms, lifting him up so that he could see down into the well. All the boy could see, however, was his own reflection in the water. ‘But that is only me,’ he cried in disappointment. ‘All I see is me.’ ‘Ah,’ replied the gypsy, ‘now you know where God lives. He lives in you.’ Anonymous The Gospel speaks to us of the witness of St. John the Baptist, whose whole life and preaching was meant to be a witness to Jesus Christ. After the baptism of Jesus in the Jordan John points out to Jesus and says ‘Behold the Lamb of God, the one who takes away the sin of the world.” John’s mission was to point out, to identify Jesus as the Messiah. John goes on to single out Jesus: “This is the one of whom I said: A man is coming after me who ranks before me because he existed before me. I did not know him myself, and yet it was to reveal him that I came baptising with water.” John was popular with the crowds, and they followed him, yet he admits he is not the one to be followed. He directs his followers and the crowd to Jesus. To drive home the message John declares “I saw the Spirit coming down on him from heaven like a dove and resting on him.” John was called to be a witness to Jesus, to point out the one who was foretold, to lead people to Jesus, the chosen one of God. This same mission is given to every Christian, to be a witness to Jesus the light of the world. We cannot be witnesses of Jesus unless we have known Jesus and loved him. John himself admits that he did not know Jesus but it was revealed to him. “I did not know him myself, but he who sent me to baptize with water had said to me, “The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and rest is the one who is going to baptise with the Holy Spirit. Yes, I have seen and am the witness that he is the Chosen one of God.” By our baptism we are made children of the Father and are given the privilege of knowing Jesus as the Son of God. We are also sent on a mission to reveal the face of the Father and witness to Jesus in the world today. We do this best not merely with words but by our lives. We cannot point to Jesus; we cannot single him out unless we have been enlightened by him, encountered him, interacted with him and discovered him as God Emmanuel with us. God’s Living Word “When a child is born rivulets of faith coalesce to tune a heart to hear God’s call. A generous if tentative response prepares the way for a deeper call and a more courageous response. Sometimes the call is not heeded and a stream of goodness dries up. But God is a persistent lover who never ceases to issue new calls and new invitations. No matter how insignificant or how late, it may seem to be, each answered call of God can be a well spring of faith and love touching many hearts as the years roll by. Today’s gospel recounts how John the Baptist, in fulfilling his own life role, came to recognise the Chosen One of God and then was led to martyrdom, but not before he had pointed out the Messiah to Andrew and John, the first disciples. Our pattern of life vocation is the same. Through daily fidelity, we recognise Jesus and point him out to those who do not know him so that together we may become a
Re: [Goanet] The Psychology of Roman Catholicism
Joao Barros-Pereira wrote: We Goans have put the cart before the horse. Before we try to salvage Goa we need to heal ourselves, we need to get rid of the poison of Christianity and reclaim our being. Comment: If Joao Barros - Periera has reclaimed his being then the virtues of patience and understanding would have come into play. But none of this is visible in the one up-manship he tries to portray to others. In such a situation we may get rid of the poison of christianity but ultimately busy ourselves with something that we would like to force onto others. Wish him a happy monday! -Soter
Re: [Goanet] The Psychology of Roman Catholicism
From: Joao Barros-Pereira joaobarrospere...@gmail.com As a child of twelve I was taken to the local church on a Sunday, which I will never forget because it was so humorous. What struck me immediately were the great number of old, old people, a few young men and women, and of course a lot of pre-adolescent boys and girls of my age who were being shepherded lest we go astray for life. **We have been to the church when small and have the best memories of our human and Christian education. I do not know where this child has been. If it was in Goa, he cannot see only the old people and less young people in the church. I have been for years in the churches and found our young people and children quite active in the churches. This child of twelve mus be frustrated in life! At the time I did not understand why it was so. Now, decades later, the answer is quite simple, and I know that I don't need a doctorate in theology to understand this mystery. **If you had a doctorate in theology, you would understand what rubbish you are taliking! It is death, dear old death, or rather, the fear of death for people who have not lived their lives fully. Otherwise, death is the conclusion of a life well lived. A natural and welcome conclusion, you might say. **I am glad tht you had lived life fully, perhaps because of your Christian education... And as we get older death has a nasty habit of knocking louder and harder on our doors even though our hearing gets weaker and weaker. **Death has different meaning for different people. What is yours? The young people at the time, and as always, have a great river of life flowing freely in their veins, and thus are not so susceptible to the scare tactics of the priests. Yes, the churches were and still are full of old, old people. **This is your imagination, nay your hallucination. Churches in Goa are not full of old people. If you speak about some churches abroad, you should try to analyse the phenomenon better... Where is the laughter? I wondered. Is God against laughter in church? **We laugh in the church when there is reason to laugh. But the church is not a mandd, or a bazar or a club for laughter. Is being long-faced a necessary requirement to communicate with God, in church or outside? Why is laughter banned in church? Is it the wrong place and time to laugh? If you laughed heartily, would God be offended? Why or why not were some of the questions which flooded my young mind at the time. **You may laugh and show what you are.. Meanwhile the priest thundered on, how God will punish us for our sins. Do you want to go to hell after you die? And so on. **Do you not speak of sanctions in the education of children? Speak positively, but also show the need of responsibility. One young man told the parents that he did not know that he would be jailed if he had committed rape!... He was jailed for seven years and fine for attempt at rape... Today, decades later, I know there is another word for Christianity which I didn't know then: Guiltianity! This is because the quality of guilt is of paramount importance. **This only shows that you never had a healthy Christian education! Who is responsible: your parents, teachers or priests? At the time, and even today, I can't see how a new-born baby who cannot talk, let alone walk, can be a sinner! I think this is insanity! What is this thing known as Original Sin, if not an instrument of the priests to poison your being, control you, and then 'save you'? **You are only proving my point: You do not know what is original sin. Yet you are blaming the Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church has a great number of devices and techniques whose function is to make us miserable, to war within ourselves, until we beg them to 'save' us from ourselves; the strategy is to divide each person psychologically and then to 'save' the divided person. What fun! **From our own experience we know that human existence is a war... Do you need further explanation of this existential phenomenon? Beware! The priests of the Roman Catholic Church are leeches who feed on their congregation and instill a lot of guilt and fear into us. **Christianity is a movement of genuine love, not of guilt... And all the stories, such as the virgin birth of Jesus, the immaculate conception, and the flying up of Jesus into Space can only have a devastating influence on the better educated minds of the 21st century. **You really do not know the meaning of virginal conception of Jesus, nor the reason why we do believe it. Nor of the Immaculate Conception of Mary, Mother of Jesus. Do priests, who themselves are rather well educated, really believe in these stories? Or are they pretending? They are good actors, I would say, and far better actors than those in the tiatr. **These are not stories. We Christians believe them and know why we accept these mysteries. The Roman Catholics don't really believe these stories,
[Goanet] OPINION: What ails Goa? (Frederick Noronha)
Frederick wrote: I lack your imagination to understand what gratification can be received from a set of elderly, uninspiring, humourless and dull politicians whether of the Digu regime variant or any other. Comment Oh, Oh! Elderly, uninspiring, humourless and dull politicians seems very interesting. Are they the same one's that get invited for your book releases and..? The ones that live on public cost even after retirement and having an eye on church properties? The one's living off NRI concerns and book publisher concerns, and ? Though you claim that politicians are dull,.. you never say so in your write ups. Why is it? Do you forget it? -Soter
[Goanet] Press Note - TAG's Children's Tiatr Festival - Day 2
Press Note For Favour of Publication * * *Children’s Tiatr Festival* *Day 2* The second tiatr of Children’s Tiatr Festival 2010 organized by Tiatr Academy Goa was held on 09th January 2011 at the Auditorium of Goa State Museum. The tiatr staged was entitled ‘Mhonvall Vikh’ meaning sweet poison. Written by Shri. Tomazinho Cardozo it was directed by Dhananjay Phalkar and presented by the students of Lourdes Convent High School, Saligao. The story of the tiatr highlights the ill-effects of tourism on Goan society. The trend of keeping tourists in the residential houses brings the foreign culture right into the bedroom of Goan houses which adversely effects Goan families particularly children in the families. The performance did not come up to the expectation of the audience as children, most of them first timers, made several mistakes during the performance. However Steffie Lobo as Magdu, Genevieve Fernandes as Freeda and Polly Fernandes as Puttu Swami did justice to their roles. Among the songs a solo ‘Kande’ by Shanaia, a solo ‘Music’ by Violet D’Souza and a quartet ‘Chulintlo Kollso’ by Violet, Stacy, Josepha and Lumena were well appreciated by the audience. Live music by Luis Cota was good. Today i.e on 10th January 2011 at 30:30 pm St. Michael Taleigao Socio Cultural Association will stage “Disha Konn Dakhoitolo” written by Carmin Vas and directed by Melvina Joseph. *Victor de Sa* Member Secretary
[Goanet] Meet this smart little fellow, Tiatrist Tony de Ribandar's son
Meet this smart little fellow, Tiatrist Tony de Ribandar's son Maythan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzAaVJvQ8lg He must be now around 7 Starting singing at 3.5 - see a clip alongside while watching Talks about Remie Colaco, M Boyer, William de Curtorim etc joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Talking Photos/Video: Our Traffic Cops not fit for their jobs?
Our Traffic Cops not fit for their jobs? check this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjd61FIOtqA What about the drivers? Too lazy to walk a little distance? or perhaps, the parking fine should be revised to Rs.1,000 The present Rs.100 fine is too little to rich car owners? Rs.100 is nothing now a day. It's average cha/bhaji rate for two. Or the cops pocketing half of it say Rs.50 and set the errant driver free? There were so many cops, some were hiding from our camera. One came to us and said 'They are are not listening, they don't care we told them there is plenty of place down there. Rs.100 is too little' What more? One of the two wheeler driver angrily hooting at the peole on the footpath as if he has a right of way - Can be heard in the clip . Who is to blame for all this mess? Our police or ourselves? Some pics Traffic cop also seen http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim5/5339487517/sizes/l/ another seen here http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim5/5340096942/sizes/l/ (not this one) http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim5/5339480627/sizes/l/ Plenty of parking space available at the old football ground Which was about 100mts from the road http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim5/5339483139/sizes/l/ More here http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim5/5340100478/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim5/5340105592/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim5/5339491865/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Why wine festival not on government premises
*Reference*: [Goanet] COMMENT: Goa Grape Escape Must Go On (Subhash Arora) *Why Bailancho Saad objects to wine festival on government premises*. . The Directive Principle of the Constitution clearly states that ‘the State shall endeavour to bring about prohibition of the consumption except for medicinal purpose of intoxicating drinks and of drugs which are injurious to health.’ The Excise Rules are framed accordingly which prohibits advertisement of alcohol and puts restriction on sale. Since alcohol is addictive and leads to several law and order and health problems it is regulated by way of license.Sale of alcohol near educational institutions, religious places etc is not permitted within 100 meters. However we see that these rules are being flouted with impunity. At INOX permission was given to start a beer bar despite it being within 100 m from a school. On close examination of the permission granted, it was found that it was a full fledged alcohol license. We objected to it and the license was revoked. Fortunately for us, the compound wall of the school stood its ground and did not change position. While some trivialised the issue and used various adjectives to deride us, this victory was hailed as an important one by the women's movement in the country. We stopped setting a precedent of selling alcohol in movie theatres. Sale and consumption of alcohol in theatres would make a public space out of bounds for many women and children , besides other problems Lifestyle of some cannot infringe on the rights of others.The same principle is applied to loud music. There are restrictions on the decibels and time to protect the rights of citizens who do not have a ear for loud music. INOX is a government premise. It is against public policy to advertise and sell alcohol on government premises. After INOX, sale of alcohol was permitted in the children's park for IFFI . Next venue which is doing the rounds is Kala Academy where IFFI is held as well as music and theatre classes for students are conducted . University is also proposed on the grounds that students are above 18. The list of government premises ranges from Secretariat to various government offices . Goa does not have Prohibition. There is no dearth of alcohol. In fact, people do not die because of spurious alcohol, but alcoholism. Medicines which have alcohol are addictive and has to be prescribed by registered medical practitioner as per case and not promoted Maybe Subhash Aurora is misinformed that wine is not alcohl;. As a chemistry teacher may I inform Mr Aurora that wine and beer contains alcohol in varying percentages. The alcohol companies have much more facilities and privileges in Goa than the other States. They are getting more GREEDY. Or is it the CM / Tourism Minister / bureaucrat who is getting a kick back ? The casinos came into being ,first as an amendment to Gambling Act with slot machines and electronic games.Today they have full fledged gambling with table games. The casinos in the five star hotels conduct some forms of gambling which are not permitted by law.The offshore'' casinos are permanently parked in the river despite having no license. It is ten years since River Princess was grounded. It is yet to go despite all the efforts. We do not want BRAND GOA to be alcohol or for that matter drugs, gambling and prostitution more so by GTDC. We hope that everybody will understand the larger issue which is much beyond the alcohol content in the wine glass and support the cause. We believe Prevention is better than cure. We have demanded from the government to stop promotion and sale of alcohol on government premises and will persist using all democratic means ranging from memorandums, protests to litigation up to the highest level. Dr Sabina Martins Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 04:58:45 +0530 From: Goanet Reader goanetrea...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] COMMENT: Goa Grape Escape Must Go On (Subhash Arora) Goa Grape Escape Must Go On The annual Goan wine festival known as the Food and Lifestyle Festival Goa, must go on despite protests by misinformed, well-meaning women during the 4-day private visit on Monday by the Honourable President of India, Shrimati Pratibha Patil, urging her to put a stop to the wine festival to be held for the seventh year in State’s Capital Panjim, writes Subhash Arora . Bailancho Saad, a women’s rights group protested a couple of days ago and requested President Pratibha Patil who came to the State on Monday on a personal 4-day visit, to ‘stop the sale of wine and liquor at government premises.’ 'As the constitutional head, you are required to uphold the directive principles of the constitution prohibiting state governments from promoting alcohol,' Bailancho Saad Convener, Sabina Martins reportedly said in her memorandum submitted to India’s First Lady on
Re: [Goanet] OPINION: What ails Goa? (Frederick Noronha)
On 9 January 2011 02:16, soter so...@bsnl.in wrote: Frederick wrote: I lack your imagination to understand what gratification can be received from a set of elderly, uninspiring, humourless and dull politicians whether of the Digu regime variant or any other. Comment Oh, Oh! Elderly, uninspiring, humourless and dull politicians seems very interesting. Are they the same one's that get invited for your book releases and..? The ones that live on public cost even after retirement and having an eye on church properties? The one's living off NRI concerns and book publisher concerns, and ? Though you claim that politicians are dull,.. you never say so in your write ups. Why is it? Do you forget it? -Soter QUESTION: Soter my man, who you talking about - Rico's neigbour, who still retains a gorment car with the beacon light? Apparently the most upstanding politician ever to have been produced by Goa - these big guns neither die nor do they fade away. They don't need any validation - they live! -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Fwd: Long Live Rupam Pathak
Long Live Rupam Pathak Going through the news papers in the most recent past, the page dedicated to the Obituaries seem insignificant compared to the deaths through murders and accidents on the first two pages. The most resounding murder case in the past few days, has been the Purnia case, where a MLA was stabbed to death by a women, who had earlier accused him of rape and harassment. This is just one such sexual harassment case of the hundreds that our politicians are involved in, all the assemblies in India and even the Parliament is full of well known criminals, hiding behind the political clout, they carry out their criminal activities with impunity, and with the police and goons on their pay roles they have nothing to worry about. If the lawmakers themselves are lawless, then, even God may not be able to save our country. Soon after the incident the CM of Bihar increased the security cover for all the MLAs, so that they are protected from the very people who elected them. Isn’t it ironical ? When they come begging for votes, not much security is seen around but once elected they feel threatened by the very same people who elected them. If the politicians are honest, dedicated and working for the welfare of the people, why should they feel threatened ? I know, there may be occasions when genuine politicians could be targeted for being honest, as it does not serve the purpose of criminals, but that’s a rare occurrence, but then, are there any genuine politicians in India ? I am sure it will be like finding a needle in the haystack. It is only the corrupt, fraudulent and the selfish politicians, who have hurt the feelings of the people, and who have things to hide, feel threatened. That’s the case with all our politicians. It is their actions or their inactions that allures the wroth of the people on them and if they do not change their attitude it will not be long, before a lot more people take the law into their own hands, like Rupam Pathak of Bihar. In Goa, too, things are not any better, if not worse. Our Goan politicians to have irked Goans on a number of occasions, they have been fortunate that we Goans are basically peace loving people but I hope the scoundrels realize that there is a limit to everything, and rein in their horses before it’s too late, it would surely be a black day in Goa’s history when the Aam Aadmi will be forced to take upto violence to bring down to earth the very high flying politicos that, we ourselves had elected. Violence in every form should be condemned, but when justice becomes a toy and a tool in the hands of our corrupt politicians, judiciary and our equally corrupt security services, then violence is the only option left to the likes of Rupam Pathak. This should indeed be a lesson for all our corrupt politicians, not to take the Aam Aadmi for granted. Rupam Pathak was denied justice by the promoters of law and justice but attained justice for herself, I say long live Rupam Pathak ! Corrupt Goan politicians watch out and ponder over, there could also be some teed off Goan somewhere, who might try to attain justice for himself. Who knows ? There could be lots of them ! Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] TAG: 1st Children’s Tiatr Festival 2010
Photos of the festival: http://bit.ly/ChildrenTiatrFest2010 Victor de Sa Member Secretary
[Goanet] Goa news for January 10, 2011
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Israeli drug dealer sought by Goa Police held in Peru - Sify olitician-drug mafia nexus in Goa. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFyDAfjOluYfnIUiYyy9p5zfpMoSgurl=http://www.sify.com/news/israeli-drug-dealer-sought-by-goa-police-held-in-peru-news-national-lbjsOhfibaf.html *** 'PSI supplied drugs in exchange for gifts' - Times of India mes of IndiaThe police later told the high court of Bombay at Goa that bags of charas seized by the ANC have disappeared because white ants feasted on them. http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNE5nbieC5wzbIlqRVJy9lgc_wYKbgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/PSI-supplied-drugs-in-exchange-for-gifts/articleshow/7250054.cms *** Govt to document Goan artisans, handicrafts - Times of India conomic and tourism purposes. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHtNbPaXAdVldUcY499o-l8kc_Rzgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Govt-to-document-Goan-artisans-handicrafts/articleshow/7244779.cms *** Russian molested at Goa beach, one held - Sify ear-old man from Hyderabad was arrested for molesting a Russian tourist at Arambol beach in Goa Sunday afternoon, police said. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGL5-_uy1oEwsxMwnE5pZflvzfFdAurl=http://www.sify.com/news/russian-molested-at-goa-beach-one-held-news-national-lbjxkfdgbjj.html *** Health tourism set to get a boost in Goa - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Goa Tourism Development Corporation (GTDC) has organized three health tourism events in association with the tourism department and Dr Vivek ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGIpfBvTEZsdlqco1KOKql6MHUDfAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Health-tourism-set-to-get-a-boost-in-Goa/articleshow/7250051.cms *** Goa Meat Complex gets new board of directors - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The Goa Meat Complex Ltd has got a new board of directors, which will be headed by the state minister for animal husbandry and veterinary services. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNG-QGYLO--jJk1_MKma5GxOqQJJdwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-Meat-Complex-gets-new-board-of-directors/articleshow/7250062.cms *** Temple protection squads to be set up - Times of India mes of IndiaAccording to a press release, more than 500 trustees of various temples in Goa have come together to establish the GMDSM, whose formation was announced at a ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNELK-wDsU1-Az0v_1Ils7sM15U-HQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/CCIS-1001-Temple-protection-squads-to-be-set-up/articleshow/7250059.cms *** Parrikar assures to address Cavrem locals' grievances - Times of India mes of IndiaPointing out that the Devapan Dongor where the mine is located has some of the most exceptional aquifers in Goa and is the origin of numerous perennial ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEJ8kkii5IRCV9fZDKvv2TnQHzC8gurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Parrikar-assures-to-address-Cavrem-locals-grievances/articleshow/7250043.cms *** Health city, housing projects dominate Chimbel meeting - Times of India mes of IndiaDespite your promise that land earmarked for it will be given to members of scheduled tribes, Goa government is going ahead with the project, a villager ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNE8PVpX58eZf787GbDF6bGdsdVQjgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Health-city-housing-projects-dominate-Chimbel-meeting/articleshow/7250061.cms *** Sanguem 'tremors' not blast: Geologists - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The mystery over the baffling tremors in Sanguem appears to be clearing with geologists ruling out blasts as a factor and ascribing it to seismic ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNE6RaYvfCUylNBoNb4HjQJdrz1jhwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Sanguem-tremors-not-blast-Geologists/articleshow/7250064.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] COMMENT: Goa Grape Escape Must Go On (Subhash Arora)
If Indian winemakers have decided on 'Brand Goa' to promote the young wine industry, then all power to them. Goa Govt should extend all support to the Goa Grape Escape and if they want to charge exhorbitant fees to participating vineries, then they should make up for that in other ways so as not to burden or discourage them. I am surprised that Article 47 of the constitution has not been modified or abrogated in view of India's experience with Prohibition. Besides, a country coming out into the modern world would be foolish to endeavor to bring about Prohibition. There are far more related pressing matters that should occupy those in power like the manner of granting liquor licenses and taxes so as to be fair and to increase state revenue. It is equally foolish for the spokesman and organizer of the Grape Escape to say that wine is used for medicinal purposes as he did in his article. Lastly Bailancho Sad should look into assisting Govt with regulations to cover village bars which are nursing stations of drunkards and assisting with 'drink and drive' laws rather than discouraging functions like the Goa Grape Escape. Roland Toronto. Goa Grape Escape Must Go On The ladies also brought out their prejudice in the open by twisting the words and spirit of the Constitution by telling Shrimati Patil, ‘you are required to uphold the directive principles of the constitution prohibiting state governments from promoting alcohol.’ Article 47 of the Constitution of India says that ‘the State shall endeavour to bring about prohibition of the consumption except for medicinal purpose of intoxicating drinks and of drugs which are injurious to health.’
[Goanet] Govt to document Goan artisans, handicrafts
Govt to document Goan artisans, handicrafts TNN, Jan 9, 2011, 05.09am IST PANAJI: Goan artisans and their handicrafts will soon be documented by the state government for socio-economic and tourism purposes. The Goa Handicrafts Rural and Small Scale Industries Development Corporation Ltd (GHRSSIDC) says the idea is to make these professions economically viable, while also adding to Goa's tourism attractions. These will be categorised into native handicrafts and assimilated handicrafts, GHRSSIDC managing director (MD) Nikhil Desai said. The compiled databank of Goan artisans will include their economic status and the business status of their occupation. For instance we will scrutinize the economic status of a potter and check whether his business is flourishing or languishing. If it is languishing, we need to know the reasons why, so we can find a solution for it, Desai said. Pottery could be under threat due to competition from plastic wares, or if the potter has not upgraded his skills, technology or design, he added. The GHRSSIDC is already in the process of completing a databank of traditional jewellery, coconut craft, sea shell craft, bamboo craft and carved wooden items. When asked how the corporation sought to make these traditional occupations economically viable for an artisan's sustenance, Desai replied that the first step is to compile a databank. It will be like a census - a measurement tool. We will know our steps ahead only after we get this information in hand. The MD further said that the handicraft market in India is thriving. Exports of handicrafts from India are about 10,000 crore, while the market in India is around 20,000 crore, he said. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Govt-to-document-Goan-artisans-handicrafts/articleshow/7244779.cms
[Goanet] Last of Their Kind
To Goanet - http://www.parrikar.com/blog/2011/01/10/last-of-their-kind/ Regards, r
Re: [Goanet] COMMENT: Goa Grape Escape Must Go On (Subhash Arora)
Talking about wine, I would appreciate if one or two Goanetters travelling to Goa could kindly carry with them a small snatchet of winemaker's yeast (Gabe has already helped us in the past!) This is for small-time winemakers here, working on keeping skills of generating wine from tropical fruit alive. As such, it is a home-based industry which Goa has been known for in the past. Edwin Saldanha [ http://goasudharop.org/docs/ebook/34teacher.htm] has infact written a book on this. Currently, baker's yeast is used, which supposedly gives a mushy odor and doesn't make for good fermentation either. If anyone is interested, I could put you in touch with local winemakers here. Some might not be email savvy though! FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 On 10 January 2011 08:05, Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com wrote: If Indian winemakers have decided on 'Brand Goa' to promote the young wine industry, then all power to them. Goa Govt should extend all support to the Goa Grape Escape and if they want to charge exhorbitant fees to participating vineries, then they should make up for that in other ways so as not to burden or discourage them.
[Goanet] Rozario's INVITATION
*Rozario’s photo expo in city* Photo-journalist Rozario Estibeiro’s photo exhibition will be inaugurated on January 11 at ESG Art Gallery, Maquinez Palace, Panjim at 11 am. The expo will remain open till 6 pm. The inauguration will be followed by the release of his calendar designed with love and dedication. Rozario has been into photography for the last 20 years. The year 2011 being the Golden Jubilee year of Goa’s Liberation, he has dedicated his calendar to all Goans as he feels that it is his endeavour to protect and preserve the rich Goan beaches, some of them which are not so popular, but yet glamourous. Rozario says that he has captured glamourous poses of some Goan beauties adorning the eye-catching beaches in his calendar and expects a good response from the public. -- *From:- Rozario Estibeiro (Accreditated Photo Journalist) **Treasurer of Photo Journalists Association Goa* *Ph: + 910 9822156429*
[Goanet] Monday-muse: CHANGE 10Jan’11
MONDAY MUSE (10 January 2011) CHANGE ‘Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results’ – Albert Einstein Einstein’s famous quote is so very true that if we keep on doing the same things, taking the same actions and thinking the same thoughts, guess what we are going to get? The same results that we been getting! Wherever we are right now in our life is the direct result of the actions and thoughts that we have been taking. When we look around, what do we see? If we like what we see; if we see an organized, clean space; if feel strong and confident; then we been taking positive actions and thinking positive, strong thoughts. If on the other hand we are unhappy with the way we have shaped up or we feel low about the situation that surrounds us, then obviously we have to introspect on our approach and change our actions. We must take responsibility and own the fact that the results we see are because of the choices we made. We must not pose as a victim of outside circumstances. To be better at changing the results, we must choose to be in control of every desirable change in thinking, habits and actions. Let’s BE BETTER at making every necessary change In thoughts and actions to enhance the result range! - Pravin K. Sabnis
[Goanet] Care for Goa and People?
A country that is racing towards moderniasation relies on sweat shops, child labour and threats of losing jobs at the drop of hat. I wonder why the bharat has not done her homework. Maybe she has taken a direct flight from the UK to Goa and missed the misery of Mumbai or Delhi before making are pronuncements on Asian Age! BC http://www.asianage.com/columnists/care-goa-its-people-289 kishwarde...@yahoo.com But the house also needs repairs and I was struck this time at how much self-respect the Goan labourer has. The painters who have installed themselves within our house have insisted on certain terms: they want tea with biscuits in the morning and a cold drink in the evening. And, of course, in between they have to have their siesta… The siesta, like other traditions, still prevails in Goa. But I wonder how long it will be before this tiny state is also run over by the demands of a country racing towards modernisationMeanwhile, Goa was buzzing for New Year — and the beaches were crowded to the hilt. The Sunburn music festival has been enormously successful yet again. It attracts musicians and festival junkies from all over the world. But like every year since we discovered our wonderful 450-year-old home, we have spent New Year’s Eve in it — enjoying the peace and quiet within its thick walls — while the world celebrates. But the house also needs repairs and I was struck this time at how much self-respect the Goan labourer has. The painters who have installed themselves within our house have insisted on certain terms: they want tea with biscuits in the morning and a cold drink in the evening. And, of course, in between they have to have their siesta… The siesta, like other traditions, still prevails in Goa. But I wonder how long it will be before this tiny state is also run over by the demands of a country racing towards modernisation
[Goanet] GOA LAW COMMISSION CHAIRMAN IN A LAND SCAM
After the recent controversory of setting up a Private trust to form an International Arbitration Centre in Goa, former Union Law Minister and current Chairman of the Goa Law Commission Mr. Ramakant Khalap now finds himself embroiled in an alleged major land scam. Former Union Law Minister Mr. Ramakant Khalap has misused his position as Chairman of Goa Law Commission to facilitate his son to grab prime land belonging to the Comunidade of Assagao. Goa Law Commission Chairman’s youngest son Mr. Ashwin Khalap using his father’s position and political clout to construct on an agricultural tenanted land belonging to the Comunidade of Assagao. The current construction is on a plot of land a comunidade tenant Mr. Mahadev Sitaram Simepuruskar illegally and fraudulently transferred to Mr. Ashwin Khalap. The construction which is currently underway in part of survey No 158/8 is proposed to be extended to the entire survey No. Mr. Ashwin Khalap is planning to illegally grab a total of over 15, 000 sq metres belonging to Assagao Comunidade. Mr. Khalap’s project which has started with the construction of the proposed seven luxurious villas is projected to end up as a five star resort. Agricultural tenanted Comunidade land cannot be transferred. Agricultural land being used for non agricultural use is also not allowed and prohibited by law. It is an irony that Mr. Ramakant Khalap who as Chairman of Goa Law Commission has publicly been professing the need to amend Goa’s land laws to benefit the State, has himself privately conspired to help his son illegally grab prime Comunidade land. The authorities should immediately initiate action under Article 371 of the Code of Comunidade to summarily evict Mr. Ashwin Khalap from the Assagao Comunidade land bearing survey no 158/8 and all the development activity should be stopped forthwith. There needs to be a thorough probe into this entire land scam involving illegal transfer of comunidade land and those involved should be punished in accordance with law. Aires Rodrigues T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat Ribandar - Goa - 403006 Mobile: 9822684372
