Re: [Goanet] Rajdeep says he is Maharashtrian

[Pandu Lampiao]

Incidentally Rajdeep is half-n-half: Goichi father, Maharashtrian mother.
His mother is very Mahatashtrian, a prof at St.Xaviers Coll in the old
days, where RS graduated as welland a fixture in the canteen!!
Being brought up in Mumbai and a hoot as Cuffe Parade, one really is
not Goichi or Maha(example, as opposed to Prabadhevi or
Bandra...though that may have changed these days).
One remembers Mrs.Sardesai spoke Marathi a lot.

Cheers.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Camillo Fernandes
 wrote:
>
> Thanks Eugene for sharing the below post reg. Rajdeep Sardesai. It is totally 
> wrong on the part of Rajeep an eminent person now to claim he is a 
> Maharashtrian now maybe just to gain popularity and acceptance while earlier 
> he claimed he is a Goa. You cant fool all people all the time, One cant be 
> both at the same time though can be an Indian at all times.Camilo Fernandes
>  Eugene Correia 
>  goa...@goanet.org
> Subject: [Goanet] Rajdeep says he is Maharashtrian
>
>
> Nahvind Times
>
> Open Letter to Raj Thackeray
> Published on: September 7, 2012
> By Rajdeep Sardesai
>
> Dear Raj,
> Post-script: I have many Bihari friends today, including my driver, an
> honest God-fearing man from Darbhanga who is driven by a singular
> desire to ensure his children get the best possible education. He
> asked me the other day why Raj Thackeray disliked Biharis so much. As
> a proud Maharashtrian and Indian, frankly, I had no answer.
>
> --
>
> If I remember correctly Rajdeep hailed his Goan birth in an interview
> to Goa Today when the magazine declared him Man of the Year some years
> ago. The Goa government has instituted an award in his father's name
> for outstanding sportspersons. It was given recently to a youngster
> and the award was presented by Rajdeep's mom. I can understand the
> proud Indian part. Disowning his Goan part is the problem.
>
> Eugene Correia

[Goanet] Goa news for September 8, 2012

[Goanet News Service]

Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** 500 Goan girls get Laadli Laxmi letters - Times of India
tandard.com/generalnews/news/goa-govt-to-demand-cbi-probe-against-moef-officials-parrikar/53700/">Goa
govt to demand CBI probe against MoEF officials: Parrikar
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGsGpS-2-cedLG_Jk4OvwZ2olnWug&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/500-Goan-girls-get-Laadli-Laxmi-letters/articleshow/16289885.cms

*** Commission pegs Goa mining scam at Rs 34935 crore, BJP wants
Kamat booked - New York Daily News
alore-in-Goa/articleshow/16305109.cms">Illegalities galore in
Goa
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHU961A_KEmBHUiDEhmU84RgmCZEQ&url=http://india.nydailynews.com/politicsarticle/ef6f9d127b07d3c34614c983905a8f62/commission-pegs-goa-mining-scam-at-rs-34-935-crore-bjp-wants-kamat-booked

*** Marathi actor arrested in Goa parlour raid - New York Daily
News
w York Daily NewsPanaji, Sep 7 ” Marathi actor Sachit Pati
was arrested along with five others when police raided a Goa
massage parlour and rescued five women, officials said Friday.
The six were arrested late Thursday. Pati, who has acted in
several Marathi films, is ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGEorQFgejlBDPfK2Fosg7gT1CKfw&url=http://india.nydailynews.com/politicsarticle/c5047fe0bf9ea60d8b1db120801596e0/marathi-actor-arrested-in-goa-parlour-raid

*** Three decades on, Goa dam oustees still await rehabilitation
- Business Standard
ocated to rehabilitation colonies ...
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*** Goa women top higher education enrolment - Times of India
mes of IndiaPANAJI: Goa's higher education institutes have a
female enrolment of 61.2%, making it the highest women enrolment
for higher studies in any state in India. The findings,
published in the latest annual report of the University Grants
Commission (UGC ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGbhbXUaYimG4ju15WCsVka-m1F2A&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/news/Goa-women-top-higher-education-enrolment/articleshow/16304672.cms

*** Aam Aurat Admi Against Gambling to protest decision
favouring casino lobby - Times of India
mes of IndiaPANAJI: Warning that it would intensify its
agitation against casinos in Goa, Aam Aurat Admi Against
Gambling (G) has decided to appeal to governor B V Wanchoo
not to give assent to the amendment made to the Goa Public
Gambling (Amendment ) ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGX6MYcX4BzlsbrGCQhXb3UgGYyKA&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Aam-Aurat-Admi-Against-Gambling-to-protest-decision-favouring-casino-lobby/articleshow/16305254.cms

*** South Goa collector for disabled-friendly temples - Times of
India
riendly. Agarwal placed this proposal at the meeting of the
devasthan committees he chaired on ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFiwad1vHCq7aOlradQOH0PSc2Ujg&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/South-Goa-collector-for-disabled-friendly-temples/articleshow/16305237.cms

*** Saiesh wins Goa cook-off - Times of India
mes of IndiaPaigankar who beat 30 other contestants from as many
schools in Goa will now fly to London along with seven other
winners across India to London to participate in the final that
will be judged by none other than the famous chef Gordon Ramsey
and ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEtxCVJ--Qi5tVZPPKO1AXDdVxV7Q&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Saiesh-wins-Goa-cook-off/articleshow/16305180.cms

*** Rapist avoids lagna with victim & jail too - Times of India
cfM">
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*** Goa-lll!! Blind soccer star plays it by ear to score at the
Paralympics - NBCNews.com (blog)
-side soccer semifinal match between Spain and France at the
London 2012 Paralympic Games on Sept. 6.http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEa_lmzDxKM0p6qEcN4CFEc7GAbFA&url=http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/06/13706625-goa-l-l-l-blind-soccer-star-plays-it-by-ear-to-score-at-the-paralympics?lite


Compiled by Goanet News Service
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Re: [Goanet] Town Hall Meeting - Toronto I

[Mervyn Lobo]

Mervyn & Elsie Maciel wrote:
> I say Hats off to the Toronto Goans who are active not just socially 
> but;politically too.
> Bravo!.
> Mervyn, I so liked your Ki-Swahili quote - could do with some more of these.
> The brother of a Tanzanian priest friend of mine(here in the UK) had once
> sent me an English-Swahili dictionary from Dar-es-salaam, but what I really
> need is an Swahili-English Phrase book. Availability?



Mervyn Maciel,
The method that works best for me is Google translate.
All you have to do is enter your words, sentences or paragraphs in one language 
and it instantly translates it into the language of your choice. Here is the 
link:

http://translate.google.com/#sw/en/wapenzi



One of my nanny's (a Makonde who could speak both Portuguese and Kiswahili) 
favourite proverbs was:

Mchele mmoja, mapishi mengi.
or
Rice is one, but there are many ways of cooking it.

Meaning: There are different approaches to solving problems.

ML09
2005EST

Re: [Goanet] Caught in the act

[J. Colaco < jc>]

re: jc: And  would you (additionally) please advise us of what
MOIDECARS are famous for .and why?

[1] augusto pinto  responded : Well the VILLAGE is
famous for ...

JC COMMENT:  Thank you ProfSor sahab.

[2] augusto pinto  responded : And it is a village
which is unique in the unique form of humour they created, in the form
of famous folk tales that make fun of themselves 

JC COMMENT:  Wow .. (:-)

best

jc

[Goanet] Swahili-English Phrases & Proverbs

[Melvyn Fernandes]

Dear Mervyn Maciel

These websites may be of interest to you: 

http://www.kiswahili.net/3-reference-works/proverbs-and-riddles/proverbs-and-riddles-east-african.html

http://swahiliproverbs.afrst.illinois.edu/proverbs.htm

http://www.phrasebase.com/archive2/swahili/5849.html


Rose Fernandes
Thornton Heath, Surrey, United Kingdom

7 September 2012

[Goanet] Rolly, Merv and I - Siolim

[eric pinto]

   Nostalgia, Rolly, we do the hill, meet in Siolim, on to the area cemetery 
where we accompanied
Merv's dad that one last time.
   Then our beloved Vagator for a sunset rehash at hot spot Thalassa - actually 
owned by a Greek woman. 
We did remember you, fondly, when there in February.
    Moses and Ella Ribeiro DSouza were surprised by a waiter who spoke Konkani, 
in Rome, 1961.
Turns out he was taken prisoner in North Africa, had escaped from a POW camp in 
the Dharwar
area and made his way to neutral Goa.
   A Jap who speaks the language:  possible, Mitsui posted two staffers in the 
Ponte area office 
which was closed last year.   eric.



From: Roland Francis 
To: "'Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!'"  
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 12:23 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Preventive Surgery

At last the Mwalimu's story of the twin-engine private plane being launched
from a swaying coconut tree off a Tanzanian island has been excelled.

Therefore I will NOT ask:
How he saw the Japanese fisherman's appendix scar while fishing on the
Chapora pier.
Can strange foreign persons be approached in Swahili.
Did the Japanese fisherman consider proactively removing any of his other
organs since the lack of 'on-site' medical facilities would also affect
them.

Roland.
Toronto.

Mervyn Lobo writes:

I was fishing on the pier at Chapora and noticed a young Japanese fisherman
with a scar. So I asked him in Swahili if he had been to Africa. His answer
was, "Once you have tasted the waters of mother Africa, it is difficult not
to go back."  Needless to say, he had been a volunteer (something like the
American Peace Corps) in Tanzania. He then went on to show me the good
fishing spot there and later, where the prawns bred in Siolim.

The significance of the scar? The Japanese volunteers get their appendix
removed before they leave Japan. This is done because there usually is
little or no medical facilities when they are on site.

ML08
1920EST

Re: [Goanet] Caught in the act

[augusto pinto]

re: Abusing Moidekars is unwelcome.

Dear Dotor

May I reply to your queries in-line:

jc: You do ask reasonable questions. Some words are too elitist for my
simple mind.

AP: I love that oh-so-innocent tone you use. Most people on this forum and
I certainly are aware of your mastery with words.

jc: Even so, please allow me to get straight to the meat of the matter...

AP: O dear! So you simply want to dodge my questions and confirm what I
expected viz. there is no reasoning behind your abuse of the villagers of
Moira - it's just your delight at abusing, in a very sophisticated way no
doubt, those whom you chose to be your victims for the day.

jc: ...  by responding to Q5 (hypothetical as it might be)

AP: But Dotor, master of the language as you are, surely you, more than
anyone else, are aware that my question was not merely hypothetical, but
also rhetorical. You know very well that I am saying that I am not willing
to go about stereotyping people, certainly not an entire village and
certainly not an entire country, on the basis of a few encounters that I
have had. So all those silly challenges that you throw are irrelevant.

jc: And  would you (additionally) please advise us of what Moidecars
are famous for .and why?

AP: Well the village is famous for originating the plantations of large
sized bananas, and onions and other such excellent vegetable products.  It
also has thrown up a number of talented individuals in a variety of fields
like Jack de Sequira in politics, Charles Correa in architecture, Teotonio
de Souza in historical studies, and Sylvestre Nazare the nuclear scientist
and so on. And it is a village which is unique in the unique form of humour
they created, in the form of famous folk tales that make fun of themselves,
unlike, quite unlike most other people, who delight in ridiculing others.

Cheers
Augusto


Augusto Pinto
40, Novo Portugal
Moira, Bardez
Goa, India
E pinto...@gmail.com
P 0832-2470336
M 9881126350

[Goanet] Shah Commission report

[U. G. Barad]

Shah Commission report tabled in parliament today i.e. Friday 7th September
7, 2012. 

Shah commission holds Digamber Kamat, Mines department, Environment
department, Pollution control board, and Forest department responsible for
the loss of 34,000 crores rupees in mining activity in Goa! 

Looks like this is yet another achievement of Kangress party! 

Since last year, Kangress appears to be going strong on scams!!


Read more on this at Prudent at twitter. 

Best regards,

U. G. Barad 

[Goanet] Rajdeep says he is Maharashtrian

[Camillo Fernandes]

Thanks Eugene for sharing the below post reg. Rajdeep Sardesai. It is totally 
wrong on the part of Rajeep an eminent person now to claim he is a 
Maharashtrian now maybe just to gain popularity and acceptance while earlier he 
claimed he is a Goa. You cant fool all people all the time, One cant be both at 
the same time though can be an Indian at all times.Camilo Fernandes
 Eugene Correia 
 goa...@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet] Rajdeep says he is Maharashtrian


Nahvind Times

Open Letter to Raj Thackeray
Published on: September 7, 2012
By Rajdeep Sardesai

Dear Raj,
Post-script: I have many Bihari friends today, including my driver, an
honest God-fearing man from Darbhanga who is driven by a singular
desire to ensure his children get the best possible education. He
asked me the other day why Raj Thackeray disliked Biharis so much. As
a proud Maharashtrian and Indian, frankly, I had no answer.

--

If I remember correctly Rajdeep hailed his Goan birth in an interview
to Goa Today when the magazine declared him Man of the Year some years
ago. The Goa government has instituted an award in his father's name
for outstanding sportspersons. It was given recently to a youngster
and the award was presented by Rajdeep's mom. I can understand the
proud Indian part. Disowning his Goan part is the problem.

Eugene Correia
  

Re: [Goanet] It appears that our own Ole Xac BC has been right all along! - a Moidean follow up

[J. Colaco < jc>]

On 7 September 2012 00:37, Tony de Sa  wrote:

1: why are you hiding behind the skirts of anonymity - tell us who
this moidekar was who met your illustrious BC.
2: BC does not have the guts to put his proper name where his mouth is.
3: If what he is posting is all that hot, why is he hiding behind a pseudonym?
4: Perhaps that suits your medico legal ... style.


My dear Prof Tony de Sa,

[A] I wonder if you think before you write.

re: 2 & 3: You might be the only person (I believe) who does not know
that BC does in fact write in his real name.
re: 3: I hope this point makes sense to somebody.
re: 4: Perhaps, you will take time and ascertain the meaning of
"medico legal" and its relevance to this conversation.
re: 1: That would be hearsay. The Moidekar in question and BC are both
members of Goanet. They can choose to do the honours if they wish to.
The relevant 'kahavat' in Hindi goes as follows: "Samajnewalle ko
Ishara Kafi Hai" i.e. A word to the wise is sufficient.

[B]  I wonder if you read before you respond.

Full Disclosure: My wife and I consider Floriano and Rita Lobo as very
good people and definitely our friends.

jc

Re: [Goanet] A day in the life of an East African Goan

[Vivian A. DSouza]

Merwyn - shallow man, shallow !  What no intellectual stimulation ?  Just 
kidding buddy.
Who needs to stir up the grey matter, when life was so beautiful in every 
respect.  Every East Africander waxes nostalgic about the beautiful life, 
leaving others wondering why the East African experience was so great, and 
denigrating us for suppressing/discriminating
against the Africans.  Indeed if we were so nasty, why do the Africans in East 
Africa still remember us so fondly ?  I am talking more about the Goans in East 
Africa as opposed to other Indian communities there.

[Goanet] Honouring those who lived and are still living in East Africa (Response to Roland Francis by Rose Fernandes)

[Melvyn Fernandes]

Dear Roland,

Thanks for your other half baked post, you didn't get it quite right, roses are 
red, but I prefer waking up at teatime to the sweet smell of dodol.

Come on now, dig deep into your fur lined winter boots, fish out some dollars 
and treat yourself to a major variation on holiday destination, a trip to sunny 
East 
Africa for the true taste of "ugali". Pack bucket and spade and excavate for 
yourself those real reasons we all love East Africa so much. While you are 
having 
fun on the white sands of Bamburi Beach, indulge in a swim in its warm waters, 
don't stray too far, I hear sharks roam these waters and none of us wants to 
say another fond farewell to a goanet favourite like you-know-foo.

Capture the spirit of East Africa, take a once in a lifetime safari lodging in 
camps in the park. They are surrounded by wildlife, there is no reason to get 
too 
wild, whatever you do, refrain from limping from tent to tent at night, this is 
the time when lions hunt and you do not need to convince them you are alive, 
anything 
that moves is fair game to feast on.

Malaria tablets are a must, it is not a question of once bitten twice shy, it 
is once bitten, fever will set in and you will have no further requirement of 
anyone's 
e-mail addresses, including mine.

Stepping off the plane, shout out loud "Africa, here I am". Wherever you go, 
smile and greet "Jambo" with a warm handshake, breathe in the air, take in the 
smells and sounds of Africa...in essence, enjoy a jolly, rolly moment, this 
is a perfect opportunity for you to see East Africa as it is and meet our 
community 
still there who will be happy to show you around. 

Remember, there was a time when everyone thought the world was flat!

Rose Fernandes
Thornton Heath, Surrey, United Kingdom

7 September 2012

[Goanet] Parrikartan Zoom: ENTER, THE BEGGING MAFIA

[SOTER]

ENTER, THE BEGGING MAFIA



If you thought Goa only boasted a real estate and mining mafia, think again. It 
may be at the bottom of the pile, but BEGGING is quickly emerging as a booming 
business, with all the necessary lubricants of professionalism, profitability 
and patronage...

Julian D’Cruz W hat  began, a decade ago, as  small time  individual genuine  
cases  of  alms- seeking  for survival, has  now mush roomed   into  a   full- 
fledged   organizedracket  that’s pushing the boundaries. From  babies  to  
teenagers, girls, boys and  women have  started  descending onto  Panjim from 
neighbouring  Maharashtra, Karnataka  and   Rajasthan. And our information is  
they are being  trafficked into   Goafor the  sole   purpose  of  begging. 
They  seek  nothing more  than money by  tugging at your heartstrings, 
projecting  pathetic  scenes of  babies  crying in their  arms, displaying 
their physical disabilities/ maladies and/ or wearing hungry  and famished 
looks. The  aim  is  to  collect as  much a s they  can, from  whomever  they  
can,  though  the  specific   focus   is   onforeign tourists. During the 
tourist high season, the  gangs descend  into the  capital  city  as  early as 
5.00 am. Off- season, they  slow down, starting their begging  bowl rounds  
only  in the  afternoon. Interestingly, the  begging  groups that work a 
particular area, never stay the same, but change  every  single  day, switching 
locations within the city, sometimes  even moving to oth er towns.

 When  HERALD   quizzeda duo with  babies  in their  arms, they said they 
spent  15 days  begging in Panjim and 15  days  in Vasco. For the night  they 
returned to  Dabolim. In  other cases, groups  of  10- 12 children  with  two 
adults  mainly  women, are  huddled into  a  jeep in the  wee  hours  of the 
morning and dropped  off  at  deserted locations.

Then they are taken back under  the  shadows  of  darkness. The route is not  
the  same  every day, neither  is the vehicle nor the  passengers.

Panjim  being a tourist hub, the  main  begging areas focus on the commercial 
centres of 18 June  Road, the  city  market, the  KTC  bus  stand or M  G  
Road,  that  tourists  frequent. Children even as young as three to seven 
years, are trained to  target  the right  people for  alms. “ A dollar please”, 
is one child’s refrain, while others mouth the usual “ money, money” in 
English. Staff at the shops and establishments along 18th June Road, say the 
children collect a few coins and notes, then rush  back  to  someone  posing  
to  be  their  mother. She  is also  busy begging  with  a sickly  child  in 
her  arms. The  collection  ranges  from  around  Rs 100 a day during  the  
off- season to  around 200 a day during  high  season ( Oct- May). In case  
anyone does  offer food instead of cash, it goes either to the so called  
mother or  into the  dustbin. On certain days there  are  older children and 
sometimes teenage  girls on the  job. The entire operation also appears to have 
“ spies” planted  by the “ collection agents” of the  begging  business, to  
ensure  whatever  is  collected is  not siphoned away. What is  interesting is  
that  local beggars have  also  started  tagging  along  now brewing a  cold  
war  between  the  “ outsiders” and “ insiders”. The proprietor  of  an 
establishment selling khadi products near Panjim church, told HERALD  that when 
he offered to pay beggars for  household chores instead, they refused. “ They 
say begging gives them  more  money than working for  daily wages,” he added. 
http://www.epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=6749&boxid=2164562&uid=&dat=9%2f7%2f2012

BEGGARS CAN BE CHOOSERS
http://www.epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=6749&boxid=21411671&uid=&dat=9%2f7%2f2012

The kingpins & their modus operandi
http://www.epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=6749&boxid=21337500&uid=&dat=9%2f7%2f2012

Re: [Goanet] Caught in the act (augusto pinto)

[Tony de Sa]

Augusto Pinto:
Dear jc

You write (in your interventions on this topic to Tony D'Sa and FL),
"Moidecarponn i.e. abuse is welcome."

Comment:

1) On what basis do you come to the conclusion that Moidecarponn = abuse?
(For those who do not understand Konkani, Moidecarponn means the quality of
being a person from the village of Moira.  jc seems to be creating a new
stereotype which  suggests - ALL the people of Moira are Abusive)

2) Is your reasoning jc, if indeed there is reasoning behind your slur,
based on inductive or deductive reasoning?

3) If it is inductive what is the principle on which you make this
statement?

4) If it is deductive quote the statements from which you reached these
conclusions?

5) Let me put a hypothetical case before you: if I said that Bahamanian
doctors of Indian origin are just dirty old men with dirty old minds, would
it be right on my part, if I were to come to this conclusion on the basis
of just one or two examples?

6) Do you think you gain anything, apart from an ego-trip, to randomly
abuse other people the way you do?

COMMENT:

Augusto, don't waste your talents trying to argue with the doc. He is the
self proclaimed arbiter and judge extraordinary of all things on Goanet.
The doc is offended because his blue eyed boyo is under attack.

He has to resort to supportting  BC a poster who has no guts to put his
name where his mouth is.

But then that's the pork and geese mentality.

-- 

** "Tony de Sa" < tonydesa at gmail dot com > **

[Goanet] Preventive Surgery

[Roland Francis]

At last the Mwalimu's story of the twin-engine private plane being launched
from a swaying coconut tree off a Tanzanian island has been excelled.

Therefore I will NOT ask:
How he saw the Japanese fisherman's appendix scar while fishing on the
Chapora pier.
Can strange foreign persons be approached in Swahili.
Did the Japanese fisherman consider proactively removing any of his other
organs since the lack of 'on-site' medical facilities would also affect
them.

Roland.
Toronto.

Mervyn Lobo writes:

I was fishing on the pier at Chapora and noticed a young Japanese fisherman
with a scar. So I asked him in Swahili if he had been to Africa. His answer
was, "Once you have tasted the waters of mother Africa, it is difficult not
to go back."  Needless to say, he had been a volunteer (something like the
American Peace Corps) in Tanzania. He then went on to show me the good
fishing spot there and later, where the prawns bred in Siolim.

The significance of the scar? The Japanese volunteers get their appendix
removed before they leave Japan. This is done because there usually is
little or no medical facilities when they are on site.

ML08
1920EST

Re: [Goanet] Town Hall Meeting - Toronto

[Roland Francis]

Bwana, very powerful post you have written, part of which is reproduced
below. However as your faithful mwanafunzi (student) I have found your words
to be like cannonballs. Fast and furious but very, very loose. You are like
Saddam Hussein shooting a Scud missile at my dear country Qatar in 1991
aiming for the air force base but the Scud landing and making loud noise
with no effect, 100 kilometers away in empty Dukhan desert.

I am very happy to know that our powerful Goan tribe in Toronto helped to
get Bills C27 and 15-A passed as amendments to Canada's criminal procedure
code in 1997 and 2002 resp which this country did along with 38 other
countries for crimes not restricted to pedophilia or to India but to any
part of the world. Also that the then NRI Commissioner made a commitment (oh
for Goan politician "commitments") to help Pakistan born Goans in Toronto
get Indian visas. Was this the same Eduardo Faleiro on whom you heaped much
abuse for doing nothing (refer your Goanet posts) with his office. This same
NRI Commissioner from whom you received eight thousand dollars for the Goan
Convention but to whom you did not return the still existing surplus of more
than that amount. At least now this "Town Hall" whoever they are can get to
the more humble task of a Goan community center or whatever, once they make
Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and all those God forsaken countries listen to
Canada who itself has been internationally rebuked for its treatment of
native peoples. Of course the Goans should take up such a cause. Leave
behind those pesky Italians, Irish, Polish, Croatians, Ukrainians and other
Canadian Christians. We Goans will carry the Christian banner.

Roland
Toronto.

ML wrote on 6/Sep/2012 at 9.50pm
As you can see, the Goans in Toronto have been quite active politically. A
few years ago, they pushed for and got Canada to pass laws that now makes it
possible to prosecute in Canada, Canadians that commit pedophile crimes in
India.

The people in this town hall group have been very active, over the past 20
years, assisting Goans here. For example, when the NRI commissioner visited
Toronto a few years ago, members of this Town Hall group got
commitments from his office to assist Goans in Toronto, born in Pakistan, to
get visas to visit Goa. 

[Goanet] (no subject) EAST AFRICAN GOANS.

[manuel tavares]

The list of prominent Goans submitted by Cyprian Fernandes covers but a handful 
of the prominent Goans in Kenya mainly. There were others in Kenya and other 
East African countries who rose to prominence  and contributed enormously to 
the community and should also be mentioned. I also feel that Cyprian missed the 
Giant of Kenyan Goans Dr. A.C.L. DeSouza who was the founder of possibly the 
first Goan publication outside Goa, "The Goan Voice" as well as founding the 
Goans Overseas Association in Kenya. Under his leadership, the Dr Ribeiro Goan 
School was founded and established and became the Primary institution of 
learning for many Goans in Kenya.The G.O.A. membership was open to Goans of all 
walks of life irrespective of Cast, Status, Occupation or which Taluka one came 
from , and worked for the welfare of all Goans.

I understand that Cyprian is not intending to slight anyone and the list is 
definitely too long  for a casual Glimpse at our history, but I thought that I 
should mention the above to enhance the record so that whosoever pursues the 
task of compiling the historic record can be guided to look at this outstanding 
Goan.

Manuel (Eddie) Tavares.

[Goanet] FW: post

[Cyprian Fernandes]

 From: skip...@live.com.au
To: mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com
Subject: post
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:52:28 +1030








Dear Mervyn,
 
Would you mind removing the most recent post I inadvertently sent to your 
Goanet address.
 
You have done a marvellous job in highlighting the pioneering spirit of the 
Goan in the Kenya
Civil Service. Bwana Karani speaks also for the Goans in Tanzania and Uganda. 
These were 
among the great Goans of East Africa. Being the backbone of the British 
colonial service, Goans
played a huge part in helping the British stay in control. That is the 
greatness by a vast array
of people in different professions that made the East African Goan the unique 
tribe they are.
 
I will not be able to go into it in any kind of depth but I hope bring to the 
fore a few names
that otherwise may have disappeared from the horizons of history completely.
 
Thanks again,
 
Cyprian

  

[Goanet] A day in the life of an E. African Goan

[Mervyn Lobo]

Folks,
Since there seems to be some interest in the subject, here is my memory of E. 
Africa from the period just before I left Tanzania.

Weekly schedule:
Monday - Leave home at 7.30am. Work from 8.00am to 12.00 noon.
                    Drive home for lunch, take a nap, drive back to work, 
2.00pm to 5.00pm
                         Drive to the gymkhana grounds for hockey practice, 
5.30 to 6.45 pm.
                              Drive five minutes to the Institute for darts and 
beer.

Tuesday - Drive to the Institute after work and park the car. Walk to a cinema 
and catch a movie. 
                      Walk back to the club and have dinner - fish cutlets 
and pattiesers.  
                            Try and join the lardis table.

Wenesday - Hockey practice after work. 
                         Snooker challenge at the club.

Thursday -  Fewer people in the club, thus longer time on the lardis table.

Friday -  The weekend begins. 
                   Free beers for the better dart players. 
                           Tambola for all members.


Saturday - Busiest day of the week. Work from 6.00 am to 1.00 pm. Make sure all 
contractors are paid.
                    Head to the club. Make an attempt to catch up with the 
people who have been there since 12 noon.
                             A good afternoon ends with a sing song, an 
excellent afternoon ends with a sing song and mishkaki
                                  and/or Rachead mackerels. 


Sunday - Go for an early Swahili mass
                   Catch a shuttle to the nearest island
                            Shoot a few lobsters
                                    Barter the lobsters


Monthly schedule:
1) Raise funds for polio victims
2) Find enough people to hire a boat for an overnight fishing trip to a 
deserted island.


Quarterly schedule:
1) At least one deep sea fishing expedition. 
2) Raise funds for Catholic women at the local church.
       Neighbour Ben Mkapa, then Foreign Minister, later President of Tanzania, 
is Chairman of the fund raising group.  


Annual schedule:
1) Two sports trips, one each to Tanga and Arusha.
2) Two five day hunting trips where a convoy of five Land Rovers takes eight 
hours to travel the last 40 miles.
3) Win two out of four hockey tournaments 
4) Free medical services for all
5) Free college education 
 

I left Tanzania for higher education in the USA. Others stayed put. What I have 
now in N. America, my friends in Tanzania do not. What my friends have in 
Tanzania, I do not. What I am grateful for is the adventure and experience of 
enjoying life in different cultures.

ML08
2125EST

[Goanet] Fw: LEAD GUITARIST..........

[Agnelo Fernandes]

Any "LEAD GUITARIST" waiting on the sidelines and willing to join a 5-men band? 



Even new talent is welcome.

This will be in Bardez.  

For further details, contact the undersigned.

Cheers

AGNELO FERNANDES
Cell:  982 218 4371


 "TOGETHER WE WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE"

[Goanet] Town Hall Meeting - Toronto

[Mervyn & Elsie Maciel]

Mervyn Lobo wrote:

As you can see, the Goans in Toronto?have been?quite active politically. A
few years ago, they?pushed for and got?Canada to pass laws that now makes
it possible to prosecute in Canada, Canadians that?commit?pedophile?crimes
in India.

RESPONSE

I say Hats off to the Toronto Goans who are active not just socially but
;politically too.
Bravo!.
   Mervyn, I so liked your Ki-Swahili quote - could do with some more of
these.
 The brother of a Tanzanian priest friend of mine(here in the UK) had once
sent me an English-Swahili dictionary from Dar-es-salaam, but what I really
need is an
Swahili-English Phrase book. Availability?



Mervyn Maciel

[Goanet] Parrikartan: THE GREAT GOAN LAND GRAB

[SOTER]

THE GREAT GOAN LAND GRAB

AsHerald Insight Team

A s one of India’s fastest growing states, with an international brand image 
and the closest thing to an Indian equivalent of a Riviera --- this “ sunshine” 
state has a dark shadow over its silver lining.

Everybody wants a piece of it! And those with the political clout, economic 
muscle, and governmental backing at the state and central level have been 
generously helping themselves  to small and  large slices of it, invoking 
urgency clauses of the Land Acquisition Act where needed to  steadily 
dispossess farmers and citizens of their land and homesteads, even as local 
resentment escalates and festers. In addition to the 3372 acres of land that 
the Indian Navy and Army already possess between them, by virtue of the 
military take- over of Goa in 1961, the navy is making a pitch for a further 
227 acres of scenic island locations. The sprawling land it holds has not 
stopped  affiliated bodies from asking for more land to house retired service 
personnel etc. The Assistant Controller of Defence Accounts( Admn), Bangalore 
sought a further 3 acres for construction of a defence account department, but 
was told that no government land was available. ( see box 4) . Integrated 
headquarters at the Ministry of Defence ( Army), New Delhi made requests for a 
further 10 acres in any part of Goa, for “ the welfare of serving and retired 
army personnel hailing from the state of Goa” ( see box 4) . While many of 
these have either been rejected, or  are under process, some senior govern ment 
officials are worried that Central agencies surreptitiously manage to somehow 
find “ sym pathetic” politicians or govern ment officials to systematically 
push their requests through, often involving the clout of central ministers. 
Former chief minister Digamber Kamat once stated he was under tremendous 
pressure to accede to dozens of central government requests for land in Goa, 
but had managed to withstand the pressure. One agency that has succeeded 
however is the Central Industrial Security Force, that managed to 
systematically shoehorn its way into a grant of 70 acres of land in Korgao, 
Pernem ( See box 1) . Seeking to deflect criticism from his government for 
agreeing to the CISF’s proposal in March 2012, Mr Parrikar suggested it would 
not be in good taste to upturn the decision on the land grant, after the CISF 
had made a token payment which he claimed was accepted by the previous Congress 
regime. The upcoming Mopa Greenfield airport is also held as a reason to make 
the land grant. HERALD INSIGHT investigations  reveal that though the Goa 
government initially may have sought to have a reserve battalion of the CISF 
stationed here in Goa permanently, for which it agreed to grant 100 acres “ 
free of cost” to CISF --- the circumstances and the threat perception changed 
after the proposal was first mooted in 2008- 09. While the Goa government lost 
interest in the proposal midway, it was the CISF headquarters  that  vigorously 
pursued the matter with the aid of some local officials, much to the resentment 
of the Goa police who were asked to be the requisitioning agency. It even made 
a “ payment” of Rs 5 cr to seal the deal for the land acquisition. The payment 
of that money is now being held up as a reason to go ahead with the project, 
that may not be strictly necessary given that the Indian Reserve Battalion is 
already stationed here in Goa. It is unclear if the CISF wishes to set up a “ 
CISF resort” or its 6th reserve battalion or both. In addition to 100 acres, 
the CISF also moved a proposal for a further 250 acres ( see no. 3, box 4) “ 
Goa has to stop this sort of disbursement of land, which is sought more because 
of Brand Goa, and as a cushy posting for its own officers. We cannot fall prey 
to this sort of pressure” cautions Congress spokesman Jitendra Deshprabhu. “ We 
must not convert Goa like Kashmir into a security forces zone, as it would 
reflect adversely on the state and its reputation as a peaceful, communally 
harmonious, tourism spot”, he adds. Even if the CISF needs land here, there is 
little justification for the large quantum being sought, officials point out. 
Besides the state government was always more interested in an Indian Reserve 
Battalion to train personnel, rather than the CISF, says Mr Deshprabhu. “ It is 
the greed of acquiring 100 acres that the CISF is pushing hard with the Goa 
government to set up base here”, he said. Also pushing for another large parcel 
of land is the Border Security Force, that has sought 85 acres in Parcem, 
Pernem for a reserve battalion. “ They actually told us that the Arabian Sea is 
considered the border of India and hence need land here. Next the Indo- Tibetan 
Border police will want land in Goa”, quipped one government official. 
Officials in government say para military security forces seek to emulate the 
examples of the army and navy who have allocated huge areas in the state f

[Goanet] It appears that our own Ole Xac BC has been right all along! - a Moidean follow up

[Tony de Sa]

JC

There was a time when some of the 'majordomos' on Goanet refused to
believe that BC was the name of the person signing as BC on Goanet.
They thought that it was a pseudonym writing through some proxy
something. The Maximest of the 'majordomos' on Goanet even implied
(based on the post I retrieved about a week ago ..  that BC was
actually JC!

That is until a certain scholarly Moidecar went and personally met BC
in Macau. Having done the Santo Tome (the doubting one), the Lisboa
based Moidecar was able to confirm that BC, indeed is BC!

And then, the seas of conspiracy . settled down.

Why they did not believe BC in the first place . beats me.

For many years, BC has been railing against what he perceives as
having happened to his homeland. To be honest, even I felt that BC may
have been a little too extravagant and unreasonable in his criticism.

Recently, one of the erudite Moidecars took BC to task with words like
"imperial whore masters", "boot lickers" and pronouncing quite loudly
that as far as he was concerned, he (the Moidecar) lived in a
democracy where one is free to do what he wants..(implying that BC
lived in an inferior place)

So, I sat down and thought: Wah re Wah . this Moira must really be
a free place.

Reading the most recent (previous 48 hrs) posts, I have reached the
conclusion that Ole Xac BC has been right all along. This Moira
appears to be a place where one is free to dump garbage wherever one
wants to.

Humh!

COMMENT: Dear Doc, why are you hiding behind the skirts of anonymity - tell
us who this moidekar was who met your illustrious BC.

BC does not have the guts to put his proper name where his mouth is.

If what he is posting is all that hot, why is he hiding behind a pseudonym?

Perhaps that suits your medico legal bahamian style.



-- 

** "Tony de Sa" < tonydesa at gmail dot com > **

Re: [Goanet] helmets for two

[Venantius J Pinto]

Corrected:

> Kitem korya Bai Ana Maria?! Vel marekar. Tuven boroilam te polloun
> istimosanv nirmand zalem, dekun mojea don utrancher thodoso niyaal kor.
> Titun orth assa pun oxeam somzounk zata ki te borovp ek niz pissea
> Goenkarachem. (vjp)

++
vjp

[Goanet] Leander Paes Playing Today in Final

[Eugene Correia]

Leander Paes (India) and Radek Stepanek (Czechoslovakia) play in the
US Open men's doubles final against the Bryan bothers, Bob and Mike
(US).
Arthur Ashe Stadium 12:00 PM Start Time

Eugene

[Goanet] Actor Sachit Patil, others arrested as Goa police raid massage parlour

[Goa World]

 

  
Marathi actor Satchit Patil was among the five men arrested near here by Goa 
police in a raid on a massage parlour. 
Porvorim police claimed that a prostitution racket was operating out of the 
parlour, and said five girls from Darjeeling were rescued. 
Patil and four others, including the parlour owner Harikant Mishra, were 
arrested under Immoral Trafficking Act. 
Police team led by Inspector Rahul Parab conducted the raid this evening. 
The actor, police said, was in Goa for the premier of Marathi film 'No Entry - 
Pudhe Dhoka Ahe', which was screened in Panaji yesterday in the presence of 
Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar

 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/actor-sachit-patil-others-arrested-as-goa-police-raid-massage-parlour/999247/#
 
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[Goanet] Rajdeep says he is Maharashtrian

[Eugene Correia]

Nahvind Times

Open Letter to Raj Thackeray
Published on: September 7, 2012
By Rajdeep Sardesai

Dear Raj,
Post-script: I have many Bihari friends today, including my driver, an
honest God-fearing man from Darbhanga who is driven by a singular
desire to ensure his children get the best possible education. He
asked me the other day why Raj Thackeray disliked Biharis so much. As
a proud Maharashtrian and Indian, frankly, I had no answer.

--

If I remember correctly Rajdeep hailed his Goan birth in an interview
to Goa Today when the magazine declared him Man of the Year some years
ago. The Goa government has instituted an award in his father's name
for outstanding sportspersons. It was given recently to a youngster
and the award was presented by Rajdeep's mom. I can understand the
proud Indian part. Disowning his Goan part is the problem.

Eugene Correia

[Goanet] Song for the day....

[Gabe Menezes]

The Beatles
-
I Should Have Known Better [HQ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goX9dESxLnU&feature=related

g



-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Invitation for an important talk on health of the heart.

[Gerard Delaney]

N*OTICE
All are invited to the Lourdes Convent School hall this Sunday 9th 
Sept., at 11 a.m. to witness a very interesting and enlightening talk on 
how to take care of our heart. It will be given by the renowned 
cardiologist Dr. Bimal Chhajer, formerly of AIIMS. He will also explain 
how to reverse heart diseases and will stress on not having to undergo 
any operation.
Come and benefit from the talk. Do please inform others about it. It is 
really very, very, good and an eye opener! Dr. Bimal is doing a great 
service to society by spreading this information.

G.Delaney, President, Saligao Civic & Consumer Cell*

[Goanet] Dr. Oz: How to Overcome ‘Emotional Inertia’ and Change Your Life | Healthland | TIME.com

[Con Menezes]

http://healthland.time.com/2012/09/06/the-deadly-words-i-know-i-should/

[Goanet] Fiddler on the roof - If I were a rich man (with subtitles) - YouTube

[Con Menezes]

This weekends entertainmentfrom 'Filler on the Roof'
Enjoy your  weeked,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBHZFYpQ6nc