[Goanet] Moniza Inam's article on Pakistan of the old days.
I can well believe what Pakistan must have been during those halcyon days. At a picnic/pilgrimage in Texas, some years ago, I met a number of Goans who had migrated to Pakistan some generations ago and had later settled in the Houston, USA, because of the turbulence which followed. They were very interesting and still cooked and brought along some of the typical Goan dishes (like manos with jaggery) which I had forgotten. Bernice Pereira
Re: [Goanet] Any Goans in Dhaka ?
The other Bengali Christian I knew was a Paul Gonsalves, the son of a Bishop, and involved with the NGO sector in Bangalore. Unfortunately, Paul passed away early... in his early fifties. FN On 29 September 2012 00:53, Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com wrote: Wonder why most of these Bengali Christians who have Portuguese names happen mostly to be in the hospitality industries, specifically in Food and Beverages.
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[Goanet] Seven Brides for Seven Brothers (Clips with: Goin' Courtin') - YouTube
This Weekends Musical. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mO-lZ0QmtE
Re: [Goanet] Visiting Scribes held hostage by mining lobby at Cupem: Press Note for Kind Favour of Publication
GT - High Drama in Quepem Mining supporters hold hostage visiting scribes H - Mining Hooligans go Berserk Mob forcibly stops bus with 30 journos on field trip at Cupem, threaten to kill them. To, The respected Editors. Sub: Press Note for kind favour of publication. Sirs, The Goa Su-Raj Party is not at all surprised that the above has happened in Goa. The Quepem Police have a record of being the lap-dogs of the mine-owners. At worst, this Police Station is on record for having hauled up an 80+ year old lady to the AGUADA JAIL along with her teenage grand-daughter, who had chained themselves to a chair in the middle of the mining devastated road, to protest against the illegal mining in Caurem, not long ago. This Police Station has endlessly harassed the anti-mining activists by filing cases against them and even jailing them on the say so of the mine owners and at the behest of the Government of Goa. That the POLICE in Goa is on the PAYROLL of the miner owners is proved today to no end. It is reported that a letter was sent by the media organizers to the Quepem Police Station informing it of their impending visit to the area on a fact finding mission. That this information was leaked out to the pro-mining-lobby by the Quepem Police is not to be ruled out as a crowd like the one that has been reported cannot be organized at random. That this was a well-preplanned, move there is no doubt at all, as this cannot be accomplished without prior information. The Shah Commission Report clearly indicts the PRO-MINING-LOBBY for having hijacked the Commission's hearing at the Secretariat, Porvorim, when it says that conference hall was packed to the capacity by the pro-mining-lobby and that the cries for legitimizing illegal mining had drowned the cries of anti-mining activists. It further goes to say that what happened there was not democracy but anarchy. The Goa Su-Raj Party applauds the Goa Foundation for having taken this matter to the Supreme Court of India in the anti-mining PIL, suggesting that his Apex Court STOP all mining operations in Goa once and for all. It is hoped that the Apex Court will decide 'FOR' the welfare of Goa and Goans and not ''FOR' the welfare of Goa's illegal mine owners and their partners in crime. Thanking you, Yours Sincerely, for Goa Su-Raj Party Sd/- Floriano Lobo Gen. Secretary Spokesperson Address: 383A Pirazona-Moira-Bardez-Goa-403507 Telephone: Mobile: 9890470896; 9422060347 L/Line/Fax: (0832) 2470223 Email: floriano.l...@gmail.com Website: www.goasu-raj.org Goa Su-Raj Party strongly believes that Parliamentary Elections must be contested by National Parties only AND/OR by a Federation of State Regional Parties. with a reciprocating understanding by the National Parties that the 'State Elections' shall be the prerogative of State Registered Political Parties only. Even then, and in the absence of such a ruling by the Election Commission of India, GSRP would want a GOAN who is ERUDITE, knowledgeable about India and its problems, as well as World affairs, a STATESMAN/WOMAN, to contest on it's 'TICKET' in the coming 2014 Parliamentary Elections.
[Goanet] Congress spokesperson Sudip Tamhankar fined Rs. 20, 000 by High Court!!
High Court of Bombay at Goa rejected the plea of Congress Spokesperson Sudip Tamhankar against Dy. Director of RTO Mr. Ashok Bhosle. High Court also levied a fine of Rs 20,000 of which Tamhankar has to pay Rs 10,000 each to Goa government and to Ashok Bhosle. The fine has to be paid within 12 weeks i. e. 3 months from date of order. Striking thing is that Ashok Bhosle was to retire on September 30, 2012. With this judgment Bhosle gets retirement gift of Rs 10,000 from High Court of Bombay at Goa! Let's see what happens with FIR filed by Tamhankar against Goa Chief Minister. Best regards, U. G. Barad
Re: [Goanet] Kashti Bamons
Don't quite understand your comment about perceptions and reality in the context of Curtorim and the so-called Kashti Bamons. In your reckoning does being a KB preclude oneself from turning one's village into a granary or a cradle of music and culture? Do you feel that putting on a kashti and working the field would be a barrier to also putting on one's Sunday's best and waving a maestro's baton while leading the church choir or the village group at a mando festival? If you don't think so then why your implied difference between perception and reality? There is no denying Curtorim's role in music but surely many other Goan villages also share that honor. Start with my Goa neighbor-village Siolim. Would you in comparison to Curtorim, trivialize its contribution? Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously you're referring to Curtorim. It is/was not just the granary of Salcete and more (take a look at the number of 'tollems' there, five to seven I think) but also the heartland of music and culture... from my few interactions with that place. So, reality is one thing and perceptions are quite another! FN
[Goanet] Kazar (Response to Roland Francis from Rose Fernandes)
Dear Roland Pooh, bah, sitting on a high throne in Toronto, I have to excuse you being totally unaware of what has been going on in the United Kingdom and countries outside Goa with respect to Kazars within our community. The majority of young women in our community, residing in the United Kingdom, have become highly educated and during their college days, at work or in the real social and networking places like the English pub meet and marry English men or foreign men, not Goans. This trend has been going on for many years now and is definitely on the increase, most of my close friends are married to English men and my two young nieces are married to English men. In addition, a number of young women, highly educated or not, prefer not to marry at all, further diminishing the number of women in our community available for marriage to our young men here. In the past, men in our community residing in the United Kingdom also tended to marry outside the community but I have noticed this trend has started to diminish. The consequence of all this is that quite a large proportion of men in our community, including professionals, go to Goa to seek a bride, perhaps something quite extraordinary to you in the present world, but true all the same. These are not arranged marriages in the true sense of the word, but introductions to some suitable women. Within days they are engaged and then either marry in Goa and bring their brides to the United Kingdom or marry here in the United Kingdom. Would you say these men are incapable of finding a bride or needing a helping hand? During my last two trips to Goa, I have been advised that in Goa the age limit there is for most men and women to marry before they are 30, after that, jokingly I am told they are finished, not sure what this means, can only assume that this means finished for marriage. You have nothing to mock or chide Gabe about what he wrote, he is echoing what a lot of responsible and loving parents are hoping for their children, the desire to see them settle down. As a father, he has the best interests of his sons at heart, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. His sons are both professionals, holding good jobs but maybe for him that is not everything in life, he wants to see his sons settle down with a wife, a family and a home. It is love that makes the world go round, not a good job, expensive car or a big house! Internet dating and marriage agencies are flourishing all over the place and cashing in on this niche market. Our young professionals are working such long hours, they do not find time to meet the women of their dreams! Cynthia Fernandes is at least helping to address this situation in the Gulf area and using the valuable service goanet has to offer. In London, United Kingdom, the Goan village organisations and the Goan Chaplaincy play an important role for our people to meet and greet with possible introductions. Rose Fernandes Thornton Heath, Surrey, United Kingdom 29 September 2012
[Goanet] Presidential reference Judgment
Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com on Fri. 28 Sep 2012 asked me some questions based on my message to Frederick (FN) as follows: Gabe's questions: Do you condone this or can you come out and publicly throw stones at the man? Nothing has changed one lie after another - do you not agree? My answers: Gabe, if you find anything wrong in what I've written to Frederick, please let me know and if I'm convinced I'm ready to take back my words. The question of condoning does not come! As far as throwing stones on any person (including my enemy) in public or otherwise is not in my culture. Nevertheless on which MAN stones are to be thrown in public is not specified you! Confusion on which MAN you are talking about prevails because down below your questions, you also pasted: [Goanet] CM LIED TO THE PEOPLE OF GOA ON DR PRADEEP PADWAL?S RESIGNATION http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2012-September/225572.ht ml while you preferred to keep 'Presidential reference Judgment' as subject line for your message and carrying my message to FN (have a look to the appended message below). Lastly Gabe, you are right in saying 'nothing is changed' but that does not mean that I should stop expressing my views! If this be the logic, than there is no need of Goanet to express any views because nothing is changed and nothing will be changed as opined by members of Goanet!! Do you not agree to this Gabe? Best regards, U. G. Barad Gabe attached following message with his questions: On 28 September 2012 05:37, U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com wrote: Frederick, my answers (including one question) to your questions are: 1) If you go by the list of scams, congress party has 94 reported scams - not aware of unreported scams (in the appended list, you truncated the list retaining only 5 scams!), and BJP has 11 reported scams- not aware of unreported scams (in the appended list, you preferred to retain the list without truncating!). By numbers congress tops the list of corruptions. 2) Who according to you is communal and who is not? 3) As regarding Styles: One is Italia other is indigenous (India)! It's up to you which one to embrace!! So which style you prefer to give a hug? Best regards, U. G. Barad QUESTION: Do you condone this or can you come out and publicly throw stones at the man? Nothing has changed one lie after another - do you not agree? [Goanet] CM LIED TO THE PEOPLE OF GOA ON DR PRADEEP PADWAL?S RESIGNATION http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2012-September/225572.ht ml -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Alfred D'Cruz honoured with Lifetime Achievement Award in Journalism
29 Sep: Oman Daily Observer. Veteran journalist, author and historian, the late Alfred D'Cruz was honoured posthumously recently. Alfred's son, Sunil D'Cruz, who is based in Muscat, receives the award . Alfred D'Cruz was the first Indian journalist to work at the Editorial department of The Times of India, Mumbai. He was a co-author of the book on Saligao, Focus on a Picturesque Goan Village. Born in 1921, Alfred D'Cruz contributed to the enrichment in the field of journalism for 65 years from 1947 to 2012 and is known by the newspaper fraternity as the 'Eternal Newspaperman.' 657 words + photos. http://goanvoiceuk.wordpress.com/2012/09/29/scribe-honoured-with-lifetime-ac hievement-award-in-journalism-oman-daily-observer-29-sep-2012-page26/ If the link does not work, go to www.goanvoice.org.uk Eddie Fernandes
Re: [Goanet] Any Goans in Dhaka ?
On 29 September 2012 04:34, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: The other Bengali Christian I knew was a Paul Gonsalves, the son of a Bishop, and involved with the NGO sector in Bangalore. Unfortunately, Paul passed away early... in his early fifties. FN COMMENT: My niece in Canada is married to a Gonsalves, whose family hailed from Chittagong. There are many of them in Canada and Australia; like the Anglo-Indians they took their potli and left. Same as the Goans from Pakistan. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Are Saraswats Brahmins or Merchants?
2012/9/28 William Robert Da Silva wrdsilva@ wrote I have a copy of the Sanskrit text, sahyadri khanda of skandapurana, which is attached spuriously to SP, but does not belong there. This text is a legitimacy discourse of Brahmana in the west coast, next being gramapaddhati in Kanara and Keralotpatti in Kerala. Here 'long donated life' to Parashurama until he 'creates' the land for his brahmana is no better or worse than the use of the Bible, acquisition of holy land, by American settlers. The story is ditto wherever people migrate, colonise the land, and the people settled before them, and dominate over the processes of subjugation, power exercise and domination that is lording it over them. This is known as left and right settlements in south India. And so on, and so on. -- Thanks to Augusto Pinto for this input. An interesting newspaper article written by a prominent Saraswat merchant (Datta Damodar Naik is the Monginis confectionery franchise holder in Goa) http://www.navhindtimes.in/panorama/gomant-vidya-niketan-fountainhead-progressive-movements Gomant Vidya Niketan Fountainhead of Progressive Movements Published on: March 24, 2012 By Datta Damodar Naik Gomant Vidya Niketan, Goa’s premier socio-cultural institution is celebrating its Centenary this year. The original name of the Institute was Saraswat Brahman Samaj, which seems to be a caste-based name if one forgets the context of progressive social movement witnessed in Goa’s social history in year 1910 and 1911. Gaud Saraswat Brahmins have seven sub castes which include Vaishnavas (also known as Sashtikars) Bardeskars, Smarths, Kudaldeskars, Pednekars, Bhalavalikars and Chitrapur. These sub castes apparently had internal animosity which included ban on Roti-Beti (ban on eating together and inter sub-caste marriages). In the first decade of the 20th century, there were efforts in Mumbai and Mangalore to bring two of above sub castes: Vaishnavas and Smarths closer and start a social interaction of Roti-Beti among them. These efforts yielded positive dividends. Inspired by this success there was a proposal to bring together all sub castes of Gaud Saraswat Brahmins. In the year 1910, in Belgaum, Sanyukta Gaud Saraswat Brahmin Parishad was held. Its echo was heard in the social corridors of the Goan Saraswat community. However, the community was vertically divided in rival camps with one camp advocating Eki (unity amongst all sub castes) and the other Beki (separate identity). The Beki camp felt that bringing together Vaishnavas and Smarths is enough and no further attempts should be made to integrate other sub castes. There were conferences in Kavalem of the Beki group followed by conference in Mapusa organised by the Eki group. Ultimately the Eki group, which stood for unity amongst sub castes, won and the Beki group acceded to the demand of integration of all sub castes of Gaud Saraswat Brahmins. The year 1910 was equally important in Portugal’s history. On October 5, 1910 revolutionaries marched to the palace of King Manuel. The King had to run away and revolutionaries took over the reins. The monarchy in Portugal ended and Portugal was declared a republic pledging its support to principles of liberty, equality and fraternity. The Republican State liberalised many rigid restrictions on Goans. In Margao, ten young men: Yashwant Suryaji Sardesai, Bhikaji Purshottam Pai Bhale, Kashinath Damodar Naik, Keshav Anant Naik, Sadashiv Vasudev Kenkre, Govind Sakharam Pai Panandikar, Ramchandra Vyankatesh Naik, Ramkrishna Narayan Bale, Keshav Krishna Naik and Atchut Naik, who were in age group of 17-18, came together to establish the Saraswat Brahman Samaj on Gudi Padava, which happened to be March 19, 1912. All founders were staunch supporters of the Eki (Unity) group and hence the name ‘Saraswat Brahman Samaj’ was the obvious choice with its progressive connotation given the context of victory of the Eki group in the just concluded Eki-Beki controversy. Nevertheless, the founders never nursed a castiest outlook... ... I'd like to make some surmises here. Datta D Naik suggests that they become one caste after 1910. Could it be that prior to this they may have effectively been a number of different small 'Castes' (rather than just 'sub-castes' which presumes the reality of one Master Caste like the Saraswat) performing a variety of functions sometimes merchants sometimes agriculturists sometimes coconut-plantation owners and so on prior to 1910? Could it be that these mainly coastal communities were only related by the fact that they had certain common habits like eating fish? And could it be that they had to make common cause and unite on account of the British censuses in order to improve their statuses within the conceptual framework of the four-fold varna system, the framework that the British Orientalists used in order to view
Re: [Goanet] Kazar (Response to Roland Francis from Rose Fernandes)
On 29 September 2012 10:51, Melvyn Fernandes mel...@orange.net wrote: Dear Roland Pooh, bah, sitting on a high throne in Toronto, I have to excuse you being totally unaware of what has been going on in the United Kingdom and countries outside Goa with respect to Kazars within our community... Rose Fernandes Thornton Heath, Surrey, United Kingdom 29 September 2012 RESPONSE: Thank you Rose for your input; I couldn't have put it better. I'll be damned, seriously, is the service provided by Kazar superfluous? Tell that to E-Harmony and others raking in the moolah! Anyway mine was tongue in cheek but as Parents we have to give our blessings, after all they won't just be marrying the girls, we shall be in union with their families too, I hope! It is not only the Parents who have a say, if the boy is in the Middle East and has a Muslim Girlfriend, he will have to convert or leave for another destination, this is a simplicity which I am sure anyone who has lived in the Middle East knows. I am so glad and fortunate that East African Goans by and large did not experience the the Caste issues that was practised in Bombay. We freely mixed with sons and daughters of Tailors, Carpenters and by golly Bamons! I visited the Goan Gymkhana Nairobi many times and danced with all the damsels there! It is a sad upbringing when your parents tell you, they will have to wash the house if so and so visits with you! I would have runawaybut then East Africa was not Goa and definitely not Bombay! In that respect I think our parents were an enlightened lot and consequently we have no stigmas to carry. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] After a long break....
Dear Goanetters, After a long break (for a number of reasons), I thought I'd regale you with some of my writings focussed on Mapusa. Later in the coming week, I'm coming out with a new book titled Mapusa: Yesterday Today -- A Reminiscent Tour on October 7, 2012. You are most welcome to join us at 4.45 pm at the Mapusa Municipal Hall. Your support and interest in my writings has always egged me on, both in the case of Domnic's Goa (2007) and this book, which I hope will be liked by you. Domnic PF Fernandes -- Domnic Fernandes Gaumvaddy, Anjuna Bardez, Goa-403 509 Mob:09420979201 or 8805237604/Shop:0832-2274954
[Goanet] GOA SUDHAROP: Half marathon and lunch, Sunday, Oct 7
The annual San Jose (California) half-marathon will be held Sunday, Oct 7, 2011. See http://runrocknroll.competitor.com/san-jose TEAM ALMEIDA (Acaria, Joe, Ria, Kurt, Shilla) will be running/walking to raise awareness for Goa Sudharop, specifically to raise awareness for: 1. Goa Sudharop’s scholarships for economically disadvantaged Goan students in Goa. 2. Goa Sudharop’s International Goan Youth Convention in Goa from Dec 26 – Jan 1. See http://goasudharop.org/images/Goa_flyer4.pdf Under Acaria's direction, various runners/walkers have done this for several years now to raise funds and awareness for Goa Sudharop and we thank her and all the runners/walkers and donors over the years for their support. Please support the runners/walkers by making a generous donation to GOA SUDHAROP in memory of a deceased family member or friend and honor their memory by donating to the above causes. You can donate to support the runners/walkers by clicking on the DONATE (Paypal) button on the Home page at www.goasudharop.org or you can mail a check payable to “GOA SUDHAROP” and mail to: Acaria Almeida P.O. Box 6144 MORAGA, CA, 94570 We will recognize the runners/walkers following the half-marathon at a no-host lunch at the MYNT (good Goan/Konkan food), at noon on Sunday, Oct 7 - http://themynt.com/ in San Jose. All invited (you do not have to take part in the half-marathon to attend). Cost: $15.95 per adult (includes a glass of champagne or soft drink) plus tax and tip, $7.95 for kids under 12, under 5 free. Thank you for your support. Goa Sudharop www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] Reformat: Goanet Reader: Dear Pakistan (by Natasha De Sousa) [From Wendell Rodricks]
From: wendellrodri...@gmail.com Subject:Re: [Goanet-News] Goanet Reader: Dear Pakistan (by Natasha De Sousa) Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list Received: Fri Sep 28 00:44:53 2012 This is a one sided view. I am sure Pakistan will respond...and they should W Sent from my iPad Wendell Rodricks, Campal, Panjim. GOA 403001. INDIA Off tel: +91-832-2420604, Shop tel: +91-832-2238177 Off email: rns.wend...@gmail.com On 28-Sep-2012, at 9:16 AM, Goanet Reader goanetrea...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Pakistan, Late last year when I was told that I would have to leave you, I was heartbroken. I had tried hard and wished with all my heart that i could have a few more years with you despite your troubled state. I felt then that I wanted to be by your side, to see you through it, to offer some kind of help or just to not abandon you in your most difficult time. But it seems, destiny had paved a different path for me, a road that would lead me to watch and observe you from a very different perspective...
[Goanet] Oral histories of British Goans project
Subject: Oral histories of British Goans project Last year in June 2012, we received a grant from the Heritage Lottery Fund to record and archive the oral histories of British-Goans. We have now completed the recording part of our project. These are scheduled to be archived at the British Library and Bexley Archives as part of a new collection by November 2012. We have gathered a phenomenal amount of oral history narration which we hope will be of immense benefit to future researchers and historians. To view a list of our interviews: http://www.britishgoanproject.com/virtual-museum/ To view a 2 minute history in photographs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i7QYLzABGcfeature=youtu.be To view a more comprehensive documentation of our project - a 25 minute documentary can be viewed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIxINN_NWuwfeature=youtu.be To view other extracts of video interviews click here: http://www.britishgoanproject.com/video-archive/ Please support our project by passing on links to others to whom it may be of interest. In 2013, we hope to produce a photo exhibition and a publication emerging from our recordings. Best wishes, selma carvalho __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group «Research» is not bias-free, but we can try to make it emotion-free! [Moderator] Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___
Re: [Goanet] After a long break....
Best wishes on your latest book Domnic and may it enjoy the readership of your Domnics Goa. Looking forward to a few teasers on Goanet as you did for that book. Roland. Domnic Fernandes jyoval...@gmail.com wrote:Dear Goanetters, After a long break (for a number of reasons), I thought I'd regale you with -- Domnic
[Goanet] Goa news for September 30, 2012
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Mining in Goa a rogue industry - The National erification-an-eyewash/articleshow/16596222.cms'Ore verification, an eyewash' http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGdswNJOqntFyx7eJyZnVaD_lgNrAurl=http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/industry-insights/economics/mining-in-goa-a-rogue-industry *** 10-year-old boy sodomised in Goa juvenile home - IBNLive.com un facility, Apna Ghar. We have ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGt0b1EZmAojg8ZfMZUzJ8H0dKYiwurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/news/10yearold-boy-sodomised-in-goa-juvenile-home/296486-3-253.html *** Parrikar visits Baga beach to unshackle shack policy - Times of India auna/environment-in-shackles/articleshow/16596110.cmsEnvironment in shackles http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHR0t_d4AtT5bl3GziXAK-Fc4xsQwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Parrikar-visits-Baga-beach-to-unshackle-shack-policy/articleshow/16607524.cms *** Sudip Tamankar attracts high court rap - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The high court of Bombay at Goa on Friday imposed costs of 20,000 against Sudip Tamankar, now a Congress spokesman, for filing a PIL seeking a direction from the court to the government to initiate an inquiry into the appointment of Ashok ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGyA52HCvOC1YCrmi3mfs1KqJeMvQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Sudip-Tamankar-attracts-high-court-rap/articleshow/16607669.cms *** Tribals' claim over forest land to be srutinised by GPS-based software - Times of India ased software to scrutinize the claims received by the forest rights committees ( FRC) from tribals under the forest rights Act. Over 1700 claims have ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGHsxETNFBsQJYxtXGg4bfOhDB5mgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Tribals-claim-over-forest-land-to-be-srutinised-by-GPS-based-software/articleshow/16605580.cms *** Goa Common Entrance Test, go! But not for BPharm, BE admissions - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Goan aspirants for medicine and dentistry seats will have to answer the national eligibility cum entrance test (NEET) from March 2013 and not the Goa Common Entrance Test (GCET), as per the state government's decision. But the GCET will still ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFlKUmeQl8NA7bLrH_m4hmQ4s6MRQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/entrance-exams/Goa-Common-Entrance-Test-go-But-not-for-BPharm-BE-admissions/articleshow/16607691.cms *** Draft electoral rolls to be open for scrutiny from Oct 1 to 31 - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The draft electoral rolls of parliamentary and assembly constituencies in Goa relating to the special summary revision of rolls with reference to January 1, 2013, as qualifying date, will be published on October 1. The electoral rolls will be ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFJsvgr2B7R7nL40JRgqmnhFMLfEAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Draft-electoral-rolls-to-be-open-for-scrutiny-from-Oct-1-to-31/articleshow/16607471.cms *** 'Bengali connection in goldsmith's murder' - Times of India mes of IndiaMAPUSA: Mapusa police have dispatched a team to Pune in search of the culprits involved in the gruesome murder of a goldsmith, Ratnakar Raikar, and robbery of gold at his shop in Mapusa. Sources informed TOI that goldsmiths are also helping the police ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEvM6PYOslV9eUnx3DT5bddIoSMwQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Bengali-connection-in-goldsmiths-murder/articleshow/16607697.cms *** V for Vendetta: Now, Congress says BJP using cops for 'revenge' - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The Congress in Goa has accused chief minister Manohar Parrikar of using the police for revengeful politics, which has resulted in the total collapse of law and order in the state. Briefing the media on Saturday, Curtorim Congress MLA Aleixo ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEP4xWj5bOiHhaVTbSl8bD9f6iE_Aurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/V-for-Vendetta-Now-Congress-says-BJP-using-cops-for-revenge/articleshow/16607662.cms *** Keel-laying ceremony of offshore patrol vessels at Goa Shipyard Ltd - Times of India aying ceremony of the first of the new class offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) for the Indian Coast Guard was held at Goa Shipyard Ltd, Vasco, onFriday. IG S K Goyal, PTM, TM, deputy director general (MM) of Indian Coast Guard, did the honours ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEObqJlQT03Aiqf8I84yW2hsMr8Pgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Keel-laying-ceremony-of-offshore-patrol-vessels-at-Goa-Shipyard-Ltd/articleshow/16607472.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Kashti Bamons
Roland, Looking down or looking up at people is largely a matter of perception, you would agree. Ditto about being disdainful about manual work. In my reckoning, there is no link between what someone can achieve and what ethnicity/caste/class one might be classified in. Or might claim to belong to. (On the other hand, of course, there is a huge link between access to opportunity and what one manages to do. Needless to say, for much of our history, opportunity has been linked to ethnicity/caste/class, making it seem as if the latter was crucial... and thus justifying a strange racism of sorts.) Who am I to trivialise Siolim's contribution, just as I would perhaps laugh off anyone doing the same to Curtorim's. Needless to say, the examples of being a granary and a centre for culture/music are also value judgements. How does one compare and judge one against the other? How does one value both of these against, say, skills in football or age-old tribal medicines that have met local needs for centuries? Based on our biases, I'd say... nothing else. It's interesting to see that caste bias can show up at all points of the pyramid. At the top and at the bottom too. Dadu Mandrekar, a Dalit campaigner in Goa, has pointed out how even some Dalits feel comfortable in having a hierarchy among themselves. -- FN On 29 September 2012 09:41, Roland.francis roland.fran...@gmail.com wrote: Don't quite understand your comment about perceptions and reality in the context of Curtorim and the so-called Kashti Bamons. In your reckoning does being a KB preclude oneself from turning one's village into a granary or a cradle of music and culture? Do you feel that putting on a kashti and working the field would be a barrier to also putting on one's Sunday's best and waving a maestro's baton while leading the church choir or the village group at a mando festival? If you don't think so then why your implied difference between perception and reality? There is no denying Curtorim's role in music but surely many other Goan villages also share that honor. Start with my Goa neighbor-village Siolim. Would you in comparison to Curtorim, trivialize its contribution?
[Goanet] Govt asks mobile carriers to stop 3G roaming pacts
Govt asks mobile carriers to stop 3G roaming pacts (Reuters) - The government asked mobile telecommunication carriers to immediately stop providing third-generation (3G) data services outside their licensed zones through roaming pacts with each other, the secretary of the Department of Telecommunications said on Friday, adding to regulatory uncertainty in the sector. India's telecommunications market, the world's second-biggest by number of users, has been hit by regulatory uncertainties recently, including a Supreme Court order to cancel 2G cellular permits awarded in a scandal-tainted 2008 sale. Affected carriers will have to buy airwaves in an auction scheduled for November. The latest move comes after the government said in December that it was illegal to offer 3G data services beyond their allotted zones. The carriers challenged the government order before the Telecom Disputes Settlement and Appellate Tribunal (TDSAT), which in July gave a split verdict. Telecommunications officials on Friday sent show cause notices as well as an advisory to stop (3G) services through such pacts to companies, said R. Chandrashekhar, the secretary of the Department of Telecommunications, which is part of the Ministry of Communications and Information Technology. In effect, he is India's top bureaucrat in the telecommunications ministry. Although companies have 60 days to respond to the notice asking why action should not be taken against them for violating the rules, they will have to stop services immediately and inform the government within three days that they have complied with the order, he added. The government sold 3G airwaves in a 2010 auction that attracted much higher bids than initially expected and no single company managed to get spectrum in all of the country's 22 zones. Leading mobile operators Bharti Airtel Ltd (BRTI.NS), Vodafone Group Plc's (VOD.L) India unit and Idea Cellular Ltd (IDEA.NS) currently provide 3G services beyond their licensed zones through pacts between themselves. Uptake of 3G services has been slower than expected as a majority of the mobile subscribers mostly use their phones to make calls and also partly due to the high prices of such services. Of India's more than 900 million mobile connections, about 50 million are 3G subscribers and not all who have 3G use the premium services regularly. The services currently account for a very small portion of mobile operators' revenues. Bharti and Vodafone India officials declined immediate comment on Friday, while Idea officials were not available. (Reporting by Devidutta Tripathy; Writing by Aradhana Aravindan; Editing by Matt Driskill) http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/09/28/telecoms-india-3g-roaming-idINDEE88R04T20120928?feedType=RSSfeedName=globalCoverage2 Goanet News Service goa...@goanet.org
[Goanet] Bye bye to 11 day old Ganapati from Panjim area (Neuio included)
Bye bye to 11 day old Ganapati from Panjim area Panjim Garden and Altinho Police video clip 11 day old Ganapati from Panjim area http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETf14TsrUCo A pic - Panjim Garden Ganapati heading for immersion http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk59/8037866364/in/photostream/ from Margao Police, Market, Borda etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZm7JJr2l5o from Bicholim police Market, Chorao http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmFybKJI9fk Here are some neurio, giant neurio http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk59/8035492252/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk59/8035491194/in/photostream/ More pics and video of Ganesh Chaturthi 2012 http://joegoauk.blogspot.in/2012/09/ganesh-chaturthi-2012.html joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Kazar
Rose you and Gabe are good examples of fossilized Diaspora Goans whose thinking is about two generations behind. While I would expect that of you, Gabe having been in the RAF and in a Wall Street firm and all, pretty much surprises. I would have rested my case merely on what you write but with your line of thinking, let me spell it out. Rose Fernandes says: The majority of young women in our community, residing in the United Kingdom, have become highly educated and during their college days, at work or in the real social and networking places like the English pub meet and marry English men or foreign men, not Goans. This trend has been going on for many years now and is definitely on the increase, most of my close friends are married to English men and my two young nieces are married to English men. In addition, a number of young women, highly educated or not, prefer not to marry at all, further diminishing the number of women in our community available for marriage to our young men here. Comment: Wasn't it you who not long ago said you knew of no Goan in Canada who married a non-Goan. Nieces married to English men and they are who? Indian ladies? Why must everybody marry? Don't some want to remain single as a choice? Why must Goan boys marry Goan girls only and vice versa? Rose says: The consequence of all this is that quite a large proportion of men in our community, including professionals, go to Goa to seek a bride, perhaps something quite extraordinary to you in the present world, but true all the same. These are not arranged marriages in the true sense of the word, but introductions to some suitable women. Within days they are engaged and then either marry in Goa and bring their brides to the United Kingdom or marry here in the United Kingdom. Would you say these men are incapable of finding a bride or needing a helping hand? Comment: Slam bam thank you maam with a twist - I'll marry you after. OK if you were overseas in the 1890s to the 1950s. Not OK for this age. About incapable, I hope the helping hand' does not extend further, if you know what I mean Rose says: During my last two trips to Goa, I have been advised that in Goa the age limit there is for most men and women to marry before they are 30, after that, jokingly I am told they are finished, not sure what this means, can only assume that this means finished for marriage. Comment: One fossilized Goan meets another. Not too many of them in Goa remain, while those from elsewhere stubbornly abound. Rose says: You have nothing to mock or chide Gabe about what he wrote, he is echoing what a lot of responsible and loving parents are hoping for their children, the desire to see them settle down. As a father, he has the best interests of his sons at heart, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. His sons are both professionals, holding good jobs but maybe for him that is not everything in life, he wants to see his sons settle down with a wife, a family and a home. It is love that makes the world go round, not a good job, expensive car or a big house! Comment: Again, it's not what the parents want, it's what the adult children want. This mentality sees the parents next asking (hopefully after the marriage) when am I going to be a grandfather/grandmother? Too many assumptions here. That children are not gay, that they are not infertile, that they want children and they must have them on the parents schedule to oblige them. Also that to the married couple babies should be everything in life, their own plans a mere second. Fossils again. Rose says: Internet dating and marriage agencies are flourishing all over the place and cashing in on this niche market. Our young professionals are working such long hours, they do not find time to meet the women of their dreams! Comment: If young professionals cannot strike a life/work balance, then would you wish on your daughter or son that such a one marries them. Asking for trouble according to me. If you cannot meet the girl of your dreams on your own, good luck dreaming while speed dating, or meeting them through marriage agencies of various kinds. Rose says: Cynthia Fernandes is at least helping to address this situation in the Gulf area and using the valuable service goanet has to offer. In London, United Kingdom, the Goan village organisations and the Goan Chaplaincy play an important role for our people to meet and greet with possible introductions. Comment: You missed the whole point. Let the marriageable children find their spouses any which way they want. They have to live with the consequences. As long as Gabe and you don't lend them a helping hand in the matter so there can be all-round bitterness later. Cheers. Roland. Toronto.
[Goanet] Fwd: Pio Gama Pinto's Saab 96
A query from Kenya. Please help if you can! FN -- Forwarded message -- From: Saab 96 mysaa...@gmail.com Date: 27 September 2012 14:08 Subject: Pio Gama Pinto's Saab 96 To: fredericknoron...@gmail.com Dear Frederick, I recently view some of your images on flickr. in particular the one with Pio Gama Pinto, the Kenyan journalist, politician. I live in Nairobi, Kenya and I am trying to trace his car. He had a white SAAB 96 sport and this car features in nearly all media stories as it was this car he was driving when he was assassinated in 1965. Do, you have by chance any image with Pio Pinto and his SAAB 96 (I know they are there as I saw one once in a Kenyan newspaper in the mid-1990s), which you can share with me. I know the license plates were KHW 363 which is the registration for Nairobi for a car in 1964. I have contacted the Goan community already in Nairobi already (Awaaz Magazine, etc) and I am touch with them - and my aim is to trace the car (if it is still there or perhaps it has ended up as scrap), view it and then assess whether I could bring it back to its original state as valuable artifact of the recent (political) heritage of Kenya. Thank you in advance for your assistance Kind regards, Rene John Dierkx, PhD Nairobi, Kenya
