[Goanet] Roland Francis: Curse or Consequence? Stray Thoughts of a Toronto Goan
Source: Goan Voice UK 14 July 2013 at www.goanvoice.org.uk Curse or Consequence? Stray Thoughts of a Toronto Goan. By Roland Francis The patriarch of this Salcette family was a feared man even among his wife and children. Imposing in stature, well educated, influential in the administrative circles of Goa of the time, he was blessed with a sharp but crooked mind. He rarely dealt with anyone not of his class. Knowing his companions could not be easily tricked, he set about creating a network of his agents among the lower classes who were better positioned to know who was in dire financial straits and thus vulnerable to being relieved of property and gold. Financial need abounded at that time. Farmers with failed crops, people who needed a start in Bombay or Africa or Aden, or just families living from hand to mouth who needed funds to marry off daughters. The Portuguese regime although fair in their dealings with most Goans found it easier to accommodate those who spoke the language and were people of means and substance who they found were their supporters. Although the law was equitable to rich and poor, its instruments sided towards those who cultivated them because the poor had little access to them. So our patriarch financially astute that he was, converted some of his family jewellery to cash and set about lending it through his surrogates at rates that were beyond usury. His targets were anybody whom he knew would never be able to sustain his interest payments for long and who had land and farms that he could eventually seize in lieu of the principal. Over a period of time he was able to acquire vast amounts of property rich with coconut, mango and other fruit and produce that was located half of Goa away from his own village. When he died of a consumptive disease, he left in his wake the shattered lives of many victims and that of his own large family who except for the eldest son, inherited nothing by will. His wife much against his living intentions got a sizable part of the estate by Portuguese law taking precedence over the will, but the eldest son not satisfied with his own share, soon deprived his mother of hers, by guile. With all the wealth at his disposal, this son became an inveterate gambler who played cards for weeks at a time and became famous throughout Goa for his profligacy, but in the process brought his family to near ruin. After his death, for one generation, the family lived in penury but gradually with education, thrift and some land which was overlooked, came to be counted among the gentry again. After two generations, and with everything-to-the-eldest-son custom still ruling, the gambling genie which appeared to have been bottled, was uncorked. In between, the family experienced normality but more often than it should, also saw much misery in sudden deaths, strange sicknesses and even stranger accidents until the progeny could be traced no more. The once impressive, almost palatial family mansion stands desolate and derelict today, serving only to attract hushed whispers and warnings about gambling and cheating from passing villagers and their guests. This is not a stray and exceptional piece of Goan history. Facts and events like this played out over several generations are well known to every Goan. No village in any corner of Goa has been sequestered from such tragedies and very few wealthy families have had no similar skeletons in their cupboards. The skeletons tend to come alive even among the remnants of generations scattered in faraway lands. Facts of long ago may seem to have been forgotten but reappear when some older person in Goa with a long memory or a proclivity for pagan connection, brings it to the fore. Is this particular Goan history wound around superstition steeped in nonsense and illogic or is it a real consequence of the bloody history of murder, mayhem and violence of our past. It is too recurring to be dubbed co-incidence. The Bible is no help. Numbers 14:18 'The Lord is slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love forgiving iniquity and transgression but He will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation', is contradicted by Ezekiel 18:19-20 'When the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to observe my statutes, he shall surely live. The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself and the wickedness of the wicked upon himself'. So in the end we must figure it out for ourselves.
[Goanet] AN UNDER THE WEATHER CHIEF MINISTER AND A PLUMMETING GOA
http://www.targetgoa.com/goabuzzdet.php?bzid=4949id=3 Check the link above. Birds of the same feather these! And all the Goans who voted Parrikar all the way to the crest of authority and pseudo intellects who vouched for him are in the same band wagon. John Collaco
Re: [Goanet] Subject: There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese
It really baffles me why all of us spend so much time and energy debating what happened in the distant past, when this can never be 100% confirmed as the last word in accuracy. These issues only serve to polarise our society even further. What does it matter anyway unless there is some lesson to be learnt by all of us? WE cannot undo the past. WHat is very important in my opinion is the manner in which we are charting our course TODAY and the manner in which we are living our lives here and now. Because, most of us are anyway failing to live up to our respective scriptures, or else our society would not be in the state that it is today. We are framing our doctors' pictures and prescriptions on the wall, but are we really swallowing the doctors medicine? Makes better sense to spend our time doing something to improve ourselves and our community today, rather than remaining mired in an irrelevant past. Diana Pinto
[Goanet] Goa news for July 15, 2013
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa set to achieve 100 per cent Aadhar card registration - Economic Times onomic TimesPANAJI: Goa is all set to become the first state to cover all people under the Aadhar card registry, chief minister Manohar Parrikar said here today. The state has already achieved 99 per cent coverage for Unique Identification Number or Aadhar card. http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHbnt63A3FYUJNzJHBPhSHBuc7poAurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/goa-set-to-achieve-100-per-cent-aadhar-card-registration/articleshow/21056690.cms *** 4 dead as truck rams luxury bus on Mumbai-Goa highway - Times of India ear-old girl, were killed and three seriously injured as a speeding truck rammed into a luxury bus on the Mumbai-Goa highway at Mahad on Friday night. The mishap took place around 11.30pm near Veer railway ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNErdRs_4-vcW1o1P3fA304qCV63nAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/4-dead-as-truck-rams-luxury-bus-on-Mumbai-Goa-highway/articleshow/21063240.cms *** 'My target is to develop local talent' - Sporting Clube de Goa coach Oscar Bruzon - Goal.com eague standings. My target is to develop local talent. We (Sporting Goa) have a very big batch of young players with a lot of them between the age of 19 and 21 ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHQKW_MTs2KiOf7rhY50qfU4lV8PQurl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1064/i-league/2013/07/14/4113640/my-target-is-to-develop-local-talent-sporting-clube-de-goa-coach- *** Goa offers special packages to woo tourists - Hindu Business Line ndu Business LineIn a bid to promote Goa as a cultural and holiday tourism destination, particularly during the monsoon season, the State Tourism Department has announced special packages for those who travel to the State between June and September. Announcing this at ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGp7TwOPzAO2lNdCAMzy-ETYfQD9gurl=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/travel/goa-offers-special-packages-to-woo-tourists/article4915074.ece *** Goa, Abu, Udaipur... most searched holiday destinations online by Amdavadis - Daily News Analysis ily News AnalysisThe report revealed that Mount Abu, Udaipur, Diu, Mahabaleshwar, Manali, Lonavala, Saputara, Srinagar and Vadodara are the other most searched destinations by Amdavadis after Goa. In TripIndex, Ahmedabad also stood eighth among the most reviewed ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFN3Pjl3wQ1r9Lk7qDBdnjS1JbSoQurl=http://www.dnaindia.com/ahmedabad/1860657/report-goa-abu-udaipur-most-searched-holiday-destinations-online-by-amdavadis *** Sesa Goa set to resume mining in Karnataka; forest nod recommended - Economic Times r20Mned=usand more » http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNERPZJ0XqhC-tWXNCyVq_8gs2jQsgurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/indl-goods/svs/metals-mining/sesa-goa-set-to-resume-mining-in-karnataka-forest-nod-recommended/articleshow/21069252.cms *** 'Goa in need of image makeover' - Times of India Kerala, Karnataka, Goa and Maharashtra - could get together to promote beach tourism across the west coast to take on formidable international destinations like the French or Italian Riviera, and also ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHzNnvNSYLAYvxMCekKJELT3-Zvawurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-in-need-of-image-makeover/articleshow/21062785.cms *** Report on Goa mines submitted to ministry of environment and forests - Times of India perational mines in Goa to MoEF's expert appraisal committee (EAC). The EAC will now scrutinize the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHnaSdz33-18qPP4EcafecWWA8j5Aurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Report-on-Goa-mines-submitted-to-ministry-of-environment-and-forests/articleshow/21076391.cms *** Bengal, Goa governors may be examined by CBI - Hindustan Times ndustan TimesThe CBI is deliberating examination of two sitting governors #148; MK Narayanan of West Bengal and BV Wanchoo of Goa #148; in the AgustaWestland deal, sources told HT. The CBI has registered an FIR in AgustaWestland deal under which 12 choppers were to ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNF7bBvVMTbMndab0zB2D7Srmgr3_wurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Bengal-Goa-governors-may-be-examined-by-CBI/Article1-1092139.aspx *** Were Ganjem in Goa and Ganjam in Odisha linked in ancient times? - Times of India arini of Ganjam, Odisha? A professor in Goa University's history department, Pratima Kamat has posed this question after her ethnoarchaeological research into the 'Boat Deities' of the Mhadei ...a class=
[Goanet] Fwd: Song for the day....
Billy Vaughn - Among My Souvenirs 1957 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJyxHAdH8ww -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Press Note from Goans for Dabolim Only
On 14 July 2013 15:58, Edwin/Diana Pinto eddipi...@gmail.com wrote: GOANS FOR DABOLIM ONLY July 13, 2013 PRESS STATEMENT The facts in our possession, contradict the Chief Minister's claim that the Airports Authority of India (AAI) had failed to respond to the government's requests to submit their plans for Dabolim Airport. On February 13th, 2013, the AAI wrote to the government that they require 40,000 square metres of land Survey No.8/1 of Dabolim village for airport infrastructural facilities, and pointed out that it had already deposited a sum of Rs.4.23 crores in June 2010 with the Government of Goa for this purpose. On April 12, 2013, the AAI again wrote to the state government that the said land was needed not only for parking, but also for Cargo, Fuel farm, warehouses and airline offices... For GOANS FOR DABOLIM ONLY Fr. Eremito Rebllo Convenor RESPONSE: The C.M. tells porkies? -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Aleixinho De Candolim - Video
Special program - Aleixinho De Candolim with son Rosario Fernandes, John Claro etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdRbPYwI388 For pics etc http://joegoauk-konkani-tiatr-vcds-films.blogspot.in/2013/07/aleixinho-de-candolim-birth-centenary.html joego...@yahoo.co.uk
[Goanet] Constantino Crasto says education alone is not the answer
www.goa-world. comGULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ http://www.colaco.net/ http://www.live365.com/index.live Tumcam Maie-mogacho ieukar. Stay tuned to Gulf Goans e-Newsletter - everyday someone, somewhere learns a little.Constantino says education alone is not the answer The writer is Pio Esteves, TNN | Jul 15, 2013 Education alone will not make you humane. Sometimes educationcan mislead you and drive you on the path of disaster. This is the message conveyed by Constantino Crasto in his monsoon tiatr 'Amchem Chintop Tumchem Xikop'. As a carpenter, Wilson (Pascoal Rodrigues) has to work hard along with his wife Wilma (Roma) to bring up their daughters Kimberly (Romila) and Vally (Antonette de Maina). He educates them with the hope that this will help them make their future. While pursing her business management studies in Bangalore, Kimberly falls in love and marries Badrinath (Ulhas Tari), whom she believes to be a big businessman. Badrinath's only motive in getting involved with Kimberly is to grab her ancestral property and wealth and run off. On his arrival to Goa, how does Badrinath behave with his wife and her family? Why does he get involved with Vally? What is Kimberly's fate after her husband deserts her? Pascoal and Roma as the uneducated parents have played their respective roles to perfection. They have been ably supported by Antonette de Mainaand Romila as the new generation girls and Ulhas Tari as the villain. The drama's concluding scene is worth watching. Comedy by Sally, Selvy, Luis Bachan, Richard and Flavia evoke much laughter. Songs by Ignatius de Xelvon, Tony de Ribandar, Saby de Divar, Conception de Tuem, Marcus Vaz, Xavier Gomes, Romila/Antonette de Maina/Roma, Rosario de Benaulim, Pascoal Rodrigues have varied messages. Saby de Divar for 'Kortubam Kristanvanchim' and Luis Bachan/Selvy/Richard for 'Inzdde' were caled back by the audience. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Constantino-says-education-alone-is-not-the-answer/articleshow/21076352.cms [As read by Gaspar Almeida, www.goa-world.comon July 15, 2013]. http://epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=9827boxid=143217250uid=dat=7/15/2013 Other links: http://www.thegoan.net/AMCHEM-CHINTOP-TUMCHEM-XIKOP/Events-In-Goa/01488.html Newcomer Crasto reaches new heights Having tasted unprecedented success with his first venture, ‘Budvontank Fatram Xit’ in 2012, Constantino Crasto is in the news again with his new tiatr ‘Amchem Chintop Tumchem Xikop’ scheduled to be released on June 22 at Hanuman Theatre, Mapusa. A newcomer to the tiatr scene, Crasto has lined up a strong cast from among the popular stage artistes including singers, actors and comedians, and is surely going to give the other senior players a run for their money. Promoter Tony Gonsalves from the UK has in the meanwhile already declared that he will be flying the entire troupe of this tiatr to London in July. Crasto, of course, couldn’t have asked for anything more. http://www.thegoan.net/The-Great-Goan-Weekend/Tiatr/Prince-Jacob-in-Pune/04746.html __THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: You must speak straight so that your words may go as sunlight to our hearts. __ http://sonvarchimsungttam.blogspot.com/2013/07/jivit-ant-dhongi-ani-kidd-zolmotanam.html
[Goanet] [JudeSundayReflections] 16th Sunday of the Year
10-Jul-2013 Dear Friend, We often complain that we have no time for ourselves because we have so many things to do. Yet when we do have free time on our hands we fill that time with all kinds of activities. Somehow we cannot sit still doing nothing! Even in our relationships with others, we want to do something. Often, more than our actions, people need our presence. In our relationship with God, do we want to do something for Him or can we just be with Him? Have a quiet weekend discovering God the stranger in our midst! Fr. Jude Sunday Reflections: 16th Sunday of the Year Welcome, entertain God, the stranger in our midst! 21-Jul-2013 Readings: Genesis 18: 1-10Colossians 1: 24-28Luke 10: 38-42 Today's first reading from Genesis describes God's homely visit to the house of Abraham and the warm welcome and generous hospitality God receives from Abraham. God appears in the garbs of three strangers who are passing by in front of Abraham's tent as he relaxes at mid-day. He does not recognize the divine visitors immediately but he goes out of his way to welcome them into his home and to offer them the best meal he can offer to make them comfortable. The strangers come with a special blessing from God for Abraham and his wife Sarah. After enjoying their hospitality, the strangers announce the promise of God that Sarah will bear a son. The story reveals how God deals familiarly and personally with his friends and is interested in their personal well-being. We need to be open to God's coming and promises. In Greek mythology the story is told of how God Jupiter once visited the earth with his son Mercury. They disguised themselves as weary travelers and knocked on many doors in their search for shelter. Time after time they were ignored and left in the street. Eventually they came to a small cottage which was the home of an old couple Philemon and Baucis. When the two travelers knocked on the door, it was soon opened and they were welcomed inside. The old man filled a bowl with hot water so that the guests could wash; the old woman put on her apron and started to prepare a meal. While all this was happening the conversation flowed easily but no identities were revealed. When all was ready, the hot stew was placed on the table with a pitcher of wine. But as the wine was drunk it renewed itself in the pitcher, and the old couple were struck with terror when they realized they were entertaining gods. They implored forgiveness for their poor hospitality but the gods invited them to make a wish. As they discussed it in between them the old couple expressed their shared prayer: Since we have passed our life together in love and concord we wish to die at the same time so neither of us has to live in grief. Their prayer was answered and when they grew very old they both died in peace. - We are all visited by God and invited to welcome Him and his word and give it our full attention. The way we continue having God as our guest, is when we welcome his word and attend to it. In a way, we are the Lord's host and guest. Denis McBride in 'Seasons of the Word' In today's gospel Jesus speaks of keeping the greatest of the commandments -the only commandment to be observed, the commandment of love. He combines the teaching of the law from Deuteronomy and Leviticus: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and all your soul and love your neighbour as yourself.' The disciples were ready to accept the first part of the commandment, that of loving God with full commitment, but who is the neighbour whom they were called to love? Is the neighbour literally the one next door? Is the neighbour a person of my ethnic group? Is my neighbour one from my religious sect or group? Jesus in the parable of the Good Samaritan teaches that neither religion, nor nationality can set limits to one's responsibility to come to the aid of our fellow human being. The duty to help a needy human being cannot be coloured by personal feelings or inclinations. The Samaritan showed by his actions that he recognized his neighbour even in the hated Jew. The lawyer who came to Jesus asked: Who is my neighbour? Jesus could have answered with a definition or short answer but he was more concerned about responding to the person behind the question. After telling the parable Jesus asked the lawyer, 'Which of these three, do you think, proved himself a neighbour?' The changed question shifted the emphasis from defining the restrictions of neighbourly love to exploring the demands of love. We therefore dare not ask, 'Who is my neighbour?' but rather, 'How can I be a good neighbour?' The love of God cannot be separated from the love of our neighbour. There is only one commandment and there can be only one love, the love of God seen in the way we deal with any and every human being. God is love and the only way to come to him is in love. The time for this love is now. And the place for its expression is
Re: [Goanet] Subject: There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese
I LIKE this (Thumbs-up) !!! On 15 July 2013 11:16, Edwin/Diana Pinto eddipi...@gmail.com wrote: It really baffles me why all of us spend so much time and energy debating what happened in the distant past, when this can never be 100% confirmed as the last word in accuracy. These issues only serve to polarise our society even further. What does it matter anyway unless there is some lesson to be learnt by all of us? WE cannot undo the past. WHat is very important in my opinion is the manner in which we are charting our course TODAY and the manner in which we are living our lives here and now. Because, most of us are anyway failing to live up to our respective scriptures, or else our society would not be in the state that it is today. We are framing our doctors' pictures and prescriptions on the wall, but are we really swallowing the doctors medicine? Makes better sense to spend our time doing something to improve ourselves and our community today, rather than remaining mired in an irrelevant past. Diana Pinto -- Kind Regards Eustaquio Santimano
Re: [Goanet] There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese landed: Church thinker
Dear Santosh, I notice that you have abandoned your usual knee jerk reaction of asking for evidence when confronted with something you are uncomfortable with. Instead, you choose to question the motives of Rev. Dr. Victor Ferrao. I think that recent scholarship of history proves that the contention of Ferrao is quite difficult to discredit. Did you know that there was no such thing as a Saraswat Brahmin until well into the 19th century? Regards Augusto From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org I am not sure whether the purpose of this attempt at historical?revisionism is purely political in order to counteract against the?Hindu zealots or it is some new form of religious or colonial?apologism concocted by the latest breed of theologians. Cheers, -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal Moira, Bardez Goa, India E pinto...@gmail.com P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
Re: [Goanet] There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese landed: Church thinker
Mervyn Lobo wrote in response to Mayabhushan: Mayabhushan wrote: Fr. Victor Ferrao, a dean at the state?s most renowned Rachol Roman Catholic seminary, which trains and grooms budding priests has also said in his research paper that the scores of temples demolished by the Portuguese colonists from 15th century onwards were not Hindu temples, but instead belonged to different ?independent cults and religions which were often at war with each other?. Folks, Since the objective of the above is to turn everything upside down, I feel that the priest has not done as good a job as he could. If, and this is a big if, I were to embark of such a project, I would contest that most of the temples collapsed and turned into dust at the very sight of the arrival of the true religion on its sacred land. Dear Mervyn What makes you think that the Rev. Dr Victor Ferrao's objective of the above is to turn everything upside down? If you have been in touch with recent scholarship of Goan history you will find that there nothing exceptionable about Fr Victor's remarks. Rather you seem like an ignoramus wading into a quicksand when you say that you contest that most of the temples collapsed and turned into dust at the very sight of the arrival of the true religion on its sacred land. Please don't disgust us with such unscientific and stupid statements. Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal Moira, Bardez Goa, India E pinto...@gmail.com P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
Re: [Goanet] There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese landed: Church thinker
I’ve always been non-reader in history and still am . . . Then I suggest that you start reading, Doctor! Tim de Mello From: drferdina...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 23:15:19 +0530 Subject: [Goanet] There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese landed: Church thinker Can some luminary in the field of history or histrionics in this forum enlighten me on these doubts I have? I’ve always been nonreader in history and still am, and would appreciate if some light is thrown on these doubts. 1 – Was Adil Shah a Hindu? Was he ruling Goa when Portuguese conquered Goa? 2- Were the Kadambas ruling Goa when the Portuguese arrived or they were from Karnataka, and were in Goa upto the 14th century? 3 – If Goan Hindus are Hindus, how come the ‘Vishwa Hindu Parishad’ are teaching Goan Hindus the Hindu religion? That too militantly? And lastly 4 – Were atrocities by the Portuguese (inquisition)committed against the Hindus? Or was it against the newly converts to Catholicism who still practiced their ancient culture? Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
Re: [Goanet] There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese landed: Church thinker
Dear Augusto, As usual, you have missed the point. It is clear from my post that I am not sure what Fr. Rev. Dr. Prof. Ferrao's motives are. He makes one of his motives clear in his statements, but not the other. It would be obvious to most people other than you why I did not ask him to present his evidence on Goanet. As far as I can tell, he is not a member of Goanet. Now if you, on the other hand, based on your statement below, have newly uncovered evidence that what the Konknne of Goa practiced in the 16th century were cults and religions, entirely different from the practices that the English speaking world calls Hinduism today, please provide that evidence. I am really curious to know what new discoveries have led to the recent scholarship that will keep me from discrediting the father's contention, and questioning your and his motives some more. As far as what these 16th century Konknne were called, and what their religion(s) was/were called then, as opposed to the 19th or 21st century, I couldn't care less. I am not interested in communal (in the Indian sense of the word) or casteist semantic games and labels on any side. As for recent scholarship of history, the following quotes should make it obvious what type of scholarship it is: QUOTE In fact even the word Hindu does not exist in the entire sixteenth century Indo-Portuguese historiography. UNQUOTE .Fr. Victor Ferrao, 2013 (doing his recent scholarship of history in Augusto's words) QUOTE ...moreover if people of Arabia or Persia would ask of the men of this country whether they are Moors or Gentoos, they ask in these words: 'Art thou Mosalman or Indu?' UNQUOTE Dr. Garcia de Orta, 1563 (translated from original Portuguese, published in the city of Goa in 1563) Cheers, Santosh - Original Message - From: augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com Dear Santosh, I notice that you have abandoned your usual knee jerk reaction of asking for evidence when confronted with something you are uncomfortable with. Instead, you choose to question the motives of Rev. Dr. Victor Ferrao. I think that recent scholarship of history proves that the contention of Ferrao is quite difficult to discredit. Did you know that there was no such thing as a Saraswat Brahmin until well into the 19th century? Regards Augusto From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com I am not sure whether the purpose of this attempt at historical?revisionism is purely political in order to counteract against the?Hindu zealots or it is some new form of religious or colonial?apologism concocted by the latest breed of theologians.
[Goanet] Why are Middle East airlines flocking to India?
The manner in which Abu Dhabi seems to be getting away with a sharp increase in seat sharing arrangement has got other countries in the Middle East interested. Despite an outcry on the way Abu Dhabi managed to increase its seat sharing arrangement with India using Etihads investment in Jet Airways as a vehicle, the deal seems to be moving ahead. Government seems too keen to bend the rules in order to bring in foreign direct investment (FDI), irrespective of the damage it does to other Indian players. Read more at: http://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/why-are-middle-east- airlines-flocking-to-india-113071500553_1.html
[Goanet] Bofors not the only controversy Quattrocchi courted
To know how powerful or influential was Ottavio Quattrocchi, who died in Milan last Friday? Click the web-link provided herein below: http://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/bofors-not-the-only -controversy-quattrocchi-courted-113071500015_1.html
Re: [Goanet] There were no Hindus before the arrival of Portuguese
As for Fr. Ferrao's new thesis, I am not sure if it needs approbiation or needs to be seen as some have opined as an exercise in historical revision. It could also be said an exercise in dialectical reasoning or didacticism. Rock carvings and idols of worships said to belong to pre-historic times can be accounted as belonging to cults. These cults and other groups may not have formed themselves into organized worships of particular deities. Hence, the formal concept of Hinduism hadn't taken place. Considering that there were temples and other structures that symbolished some sort of formal worship that now comes under the umbrella of Hinduism before the arrival of Portuguese does show that the religion had taken roots. The Portuguese era is less than 600 years in India. The destruction of temples and the ruins found later does tell a story of a religion other than Christianity having existed before the Portuguese arrived. Maybe Fr. Ferrao's breaking new ground or general summation, as I see it, needs insightful look by noted historians. Eugene
[Goanet] Writing about tiatrs in Bombay
Hello I am journalist working with a newspaper called DNA in Bombay. I wanted to pursue a story on tiatrs (it's amazing that most people in Bombay don't know what they are) in the city, and was wondering if anyone could help me with contacts. Am looking to speak to people who attend tiatrs here, those who organise them and anyone who has any sort of information on this subject. Also is there any way to talk to Cynthia Gomes James? Would appreciate any sort of help. Thanks
[Goanet] Latest on goanspirit.com
-- NEW *Runaway failures: a tale of failed airport projects -7* *July 15-21, 2013* *Federa airport grounded?* *Confusing aviation policy* …..In January 2010 the Airports Authority of India (AAI) did a feasibility study of the proposed airport, 130 km from Ahmedabad, after meeting top government officials and industry organizations. However, the Gujarat government’s commitment to the project has always been suspect and its aviation policy outwardly confused. In June the same year it announced it had created an aviation company to meet the growing demand in the public and private sector. It was to be named Gujarat State Aviation Company (GUJSAC) and would be a public sector enterprise tasked with building infrastructure and providing trained human resources for the fast growing civil aviation sector. It also set up the Gujarat State Aviation Infrastructure Co. Ltd (GUJSAIL). By the year end, in December, Gujarat declared it would set up a special purpose vehicle (SPV) for the Dholera international airport to be called Dholera International Airport Company Limited (DIACL), ostensibly to avail of the benefits of the proposed Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor (DMIC) as well as the (also proposed) Dedicated Freight Corridor (DFC). The SPV was to study the public private partnership (PPP), implementation of a master plan, land acquisition and the infrastructure required. Full story: http://goanspirit.com/index.php/lead/327-runaway-failures-a-tale-of-failed-airport-projects-7 *Lionroars – 13* *July 15-21, 2013* *The rogue VP of Betalbatim* Despite what the news headlines say the heated issue over the gated housing complex in Betalbatim which the villagers are opposing, may not be over yet. This columnist thinks their victory may be a temporary one if the Nuvem legislator Francisco ‘Mickky’ Pacheco is, as I believe, two-timing his own voters in this case; despite all that emerged from the July 12th critical meeting of the village panchayat (VP). And this would not be the first time either. There were just too many strange events that occurred in the run up to this victory and perhaps one of the few occasions a north Indian developer well versed in Goa’s cesspool of deceit and under-the-table money transactions; was vanquished. Let’s begin from the beginning. A resident of Majorda, Alvaro Braganza sold approximately 3,000 sq mt of his land at Betalbatim to a person/s who has come to be known as Ibrahim Sons, predictably through a non resident Goan possibly from the same village but now believed to be a resident of Benaulim. Full story: http://goanspirit.com/index.php/lion-roars/lion-roars-2013/325-lionroars-14 *July 15-21, 2013* *Falling rupee could crash land Mopa* It should be the next level of anxiety but nevertheless it’s going to be a reality when Mopa comes, if it comes. When swanky airports built by private companies come, user fees follow because it costs thousands of crores sometimes to build airports. And they are always destined to go skywards as passengers using the Greenfield Bengaluru and Hyderabad airports are discovering, several years after they were completed. So Mopa becoming a reality will definitely come with the rider that travelers will have to fork out big money to use the airport. For those not in the know, the story unfolding at Bengaluru and Hyderabad airports are a glimpse into the future. While at Dabolim, which is run by the Airports Authority of India (a government-agency), Mopa will have a PPP model. Therefore the current airport is not charging flyers an arm and a leg to use it, but at Mopa, the picture will be totally different……. Full story: http://goanspirit.com/index.php/news-summary/324-falling-rupee-could-crash-land-mopa *July 15-21, 2013* *Team GS* *Proof of the Pudding….* After 16 months as the chief minister of Goa, it’s time Manohar Parrikar stops acting like an opposition leader whose only focus is to score brownie points off the Congress and get down to governance rather than making expansive promises about accomplishing all and sundry. And nothing happens on the ground. The casino issue is an example. Parrikar is still stuck on exposing the Congress. “The first casino was given the license by Congress. All subsequent casinos came to the state during the tenure of the Congress government. They should answer the people how much money they have made by issuing licenses,” he said last week….. Full story: * * http://goanspirit.com/index.php/contact-us/letters/111-the-week-that-was/328-proof-of-the-pudding *July 15-21, 2013* *Goa’s Vintage Vinters* *Lionel Messias* Like wine is all about how long it is matured, it seems logical to assume that homemade wine makers traditionally called vintners are matured persons themselves. Proof of my age theory is the fact that two of Goa’s truly dedicated vintners are 80 (Dr John Carmo Rodrigues) and 65-years-old (Anselmo Mascarhenas and his co-vintner/wife Mary
Re: [Goanet] There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese landed
I was about to make a request to Mayabhusan to post the research paper, and I must thnak Fred for doing so. It would help in getting the 'whole story'. Eugene
[Goanet] EVEN A TANKER OF DETHOL WILL NOT SANITIZE THE ADVOCATE GENERAL’S OFFICE
Over the last decade and a half, the office of the high constitutional post of Advocate General in Goa has lowered and sunk in stature. It has gone from bad to worse. It cannot get any shoddier. It is ironical that before filing a petition against the government the litigant would be better off setting the stage by having a meeting with the Advocate General. The Advocate General would himself suggest the name of the advocate to be engaged to fight the legal battle against the government. Such is the filthy state of affairs. Setting and fixing by the Advocate General has become a norm. A Public Interest litigation (PIL) today rarely serves public interest. It is infact only the Advocate General who ends up better off. Earlier filing a PIL ended up being a KIL (Kantak Interest litigation). Today it has become a NIL (Nadkarni Interest litigation). Earlier the Advocate General pocketed Rs 8000 per hearing. Thanks to the concern of the Chief Minister about the inflation faced by Goa’s first Law officer, the Advocate General now walks away with Rs 1 every time he stands up in Court. What a bouncer. As far as professional ethics, the Advocate General as the First Law Officer of the State and the Leader of the Bar should have led by example. But what we have and are witnessing in Goa is a very disturbing state of affairs. However, we cannot remain mere spectators. We have to fight back against the powers to be. We cannot allow the sanctity of the temples of justice to be further eroded and corroded. Aires Rodrigues T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat Ribandar - Goa - 403006 Mobile: 9822684372
Re: [Goanet] Latest on goanspirit.com
Just a quick note, Lionel for your delightful site. Am enjoying it best jc On 15 July 2013 07:31, Lionel Messias lionroars@gmail.com wrote: -- NEW *Runaway failures: a tale of failed airport projects -7* *July 15-21, 2013* *Federa airport grounded?* *Confusing aviation policy* …..In January 2010 the Airports Authority of India (AAI) did a feasibility study of the proposed airport, 130 km from Ahmedabad, after meeting top government officials and industry organizations. However, the Gujarat government’s commitment to the project has always been suspect and its aviation policy outwardly confused. In June the same year it announced it had created an aviation company to meet the growing demand in the public and private sector. It was to be named Gujarat State Aviation Company (GUJSAC) and would be a public sector enterprise tasked with building infrastructure and providing trained human resources for the fast growing civil aviation sector. It also set up the Gujarat State Aviation Infrastructure Co. Ltd (GUJSAIL). By the year end, in December, Gujarat declared it would set up a special purpose vehicle (SPV) for the Dholera international airport to be called Dholera International Airport Company Limited (DIACL), ostensibly to avail of the benefits of the proposed Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor (DMIC) as well as the (also proposed) Dedicated Freight Corridor (DFC). The SPV was to study the public private partnership (PPP), implementation of a master plan, land acquisition and the infrastructure required. Full story: http://goanspirit.com/index.php/lead/327-runaway-failures-a-tale-of-failed-airport-projects-7 *Lionroars – 13* *July 15-21, 2013* *The rogue VP of Betalbatim* Despite what the news headlines say the heated issue over the gated housing complex in Betalbatim which the villagers are opposing, may not be over yet. This columnist thinks their victory may be a temporary one if the Nuvem legislator Francisco ‘Mickky’ Pacheco is, as I believe, two-timing his own voters in this case; despite all that emerged from the July 12th critical meeting of the village panchayat (VP). And this would not be the first time either. There were just too many strange events that occurred in the run up to this victory and perhaps one of the few occasions a north Indian developer well versed in Goa’s cesspool of deceit and under-the-table money transactions; was vanquished. Let’s begin from the beginning. A resident of Majorda, Alvaro Braganza sold approximately 3,000 sq mt of his land at Betalbatim to a person/s who has come to be known as Ibrahim Sons, predictably through a non resident Goan possibly from the same village but now believed to be a resident of Benaulim. Full story: http://goanspirit.com/index.php/lion-roars/lion-roars-2013/325-lionroars-14 *July 15-21, 2013* *Falling rupee could crash land Mopa* It should be the next level of anxiety but nevertheless it’s going to be a reality when Mopa comes, if it comes. When swanky airports built by private companies come, user fees follow because it costs thousands of crores sometimes to build airports. And they are always destined to go skywards as passengers using the Greenfield Bengaluru and Hyderabad airports are discovering, several years after they were completed. So Mopa becoming a reality will definitely come with the rider that travelers will have to fork out big money to use the airport. For those not in the know, the story unfolding at Bengaluru and Hyderabad airports are a glimpse into the future. While at Dabolim, which is run by the Airports Authority of India (a government-agency), Mopa will have a PPP model. Therefore the current airport is not charging flyers an arm and a leg to use it, but at Mopa, the picture will be totally different……. Full story: http://goanspirit.com/index.php/news-summary/324-falling-rupee-could-crash-land-mopa *July 15-21, 2013* *Team GS* *Proof of the Pudding….* After 16 months as the chief minister of Goa, it’s time Manohar Parrikar stops acting like an opposition leader whose only focus is to score brownie points off the Congress and get down to governance rather than making expansive promises about accomplishing all and sundry. And nothing happens on the ground. The casino issue is an example. Parrikar is still stuck on exposing the Congress. “The first casino was given the license by Congress. All subsequent casinos came to the state during the tenure of the Congress government. They should answer the people how much money they have made by issuing licenses,” he said last week….. Full story: * * http://goanspirit.com/index.php/contact-us/letters/111-the-week-that-was/328-proof-of-the-pudding *July 15-21, 2013* *Goa’s Vintage Vinters* *Lionel Messias* Like wine is all about how long it is matured, it seems logical to assume that homemade wine makers
[Goanet] There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese landed: Church thinker
Dr. Ferdinando, first, please read about 'Hindu and Hinduism' before venturing in posing historical questions and that too when you admit that you are 'nonreader in history'! Secondly, you must make up your mind as to whether you profess church thinker(s) philosophy or that of self-acclaimed, self-styled thinker Radharav! Thereafter, I'm sure; on your own you will get the answers for all the questions posed by you to Goanet members! Best regards, U. G. Barad On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falc?o drferdina...@hotmail.com wrote: Can some luminary in the field of history or histrionics in this forum enlighten me on these doubts I have? I?ve always been nonreader in history and still am, and would appreciate if some light is thrown on these doubts. 1 ? Was Adil Shah a Hindu? Was he ruling Goa when Portuguese conquered Goa? 2- Were the Kadambas ruling Goa when the Portuguese arrived or they were from Karnataka, and were in Goa upto the 14th century? 3 ? If Goan Hindus are Hindus, how come the ?Vishwa Hindu Parishad? are teaching Goan Hindus the Hindu religion? That too militantly? And lastly 4 ? Were atrocities by the Portuguese (inquisition)committed against the Hindus? Or was it against the newly converts to Catholicism who still practiced their ancient culture? Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falc?o.
Re: [Goanet] Sooner Parrikar goes, the better for Goa - COMMENTS
Re: Sooner Parrikar goes, the better for Goa - COMMENTS http://www.goasu-raj.org/gen/news/3117.asp PPS: PEOPLE FOR POLITICAL SANITY PS: If the people refuse to become politically 'SANE', politics will remain dirty + more. ONLY DABOLIM - NAVY GET OUT WITH MOPA - SPECIAL STATUS FOR GOA IS ONLY A SHOUT VIVA GOA - VIVA GOEMKARS Amchem Goem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PHvEkxLCmc
Re: [Goanet] There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese
Thank you Eustaquio Santimano Diana
Re: [Goanet] Roland Francis: Curse or Consequence? Stray Thoughts of a Toronto Goan
Roland: An interesting piece. Enjoyed reading it. Why did you find it necessary to refer to the Old Testament of the Bible for guidance? It is one of the most contradictory books written. Only the Church's interpretation is supposed to be used. I tend to feel that as you say . . Goan history wound around superstition steeped in nonsense and illogic . . and only used to serve ones own purposes. Interestingly . . in Sunday's homily on the Good Samaritan, in trying to explain the behaviour of the people passing the wounded man, I learnt that there are 613 commandments in the Old Testament listed in the Torah. 365 (days of the year) negative ones and 248 (number of bones organs in the body) positive ones. Interesting. Imagine if we were to made to learn 613 commandments instead of just 10 for our First Holy Communion. Imagine, for example, trying to learn who is allowed to/not allowed to have sex with one another. And trying to memorize that matrix. I think I would have probably failed the test. :) Tim From: eddie.fernan...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 01:19:36 +0100 Subject: [Goanet] Roland Francis: Curse or Consequence? Stray Thoughts of a Toronto Goan Source: Goan Voice UK 14 July 2013 at www.goanvoice.org.uk Curse or Consequence? Stray Thoughts of a Toronto Goan. By Roland Francis The patriarch of this Salcette family was a feared man even among his wife and children. Imposing in stature, well educated, influential in the administrative circles of Goa of the time, he was blessed with a sharp but crooked mind. He rarely dealt with anyone not of his class. Knowing his companions could not be easily tricked, he set about creating a network of his agents among the lower classes who were better positioned to know who was in dire financial straits and thus vulnerable to being relieved of property and gold. Financial need abounded at that time. Farmers with failed crops, people who needed a start in Bombay or Africa or Aden, or just families living from hand to mouth who needed funds to marry off daughters. The Portuguese regime although fair in their dealings with most Goans found it easier to accommodate those who spoke the language and were people of means and substance who they found were their supporters. Although the law was equitable to rich and poor, its instruments sided towards those who cultivated them because the poor had little access to them. So our patriarch financially astute that he was, converted some of his family jewellery to cash and set about lending it through his surrogates at rates that were beyond usury. His targets were anybody whom he knew would never be able to sustain his interest payments for long and who had land and farms that he could eventually seize in lieu of the principal. Over a period of time he was able to acquire vast amounts of property rich with coconut, mango and other fruit and produce that was located half of Goa away from his own village. When he died of a consumptive disease, he left in his wake the shattered lives of many victims and that of his own large family who except for the eldest son, inherited nothing by will. His wife much against his living intentions got a sizable part of the estate by Portuguese law taking precedence over the will, but the eldest son not satisfied with his own share, soon deprived his mother of hers, by guile. With all the wealth at his disposal, this son became an inveterate gambler who played cards for weeks at a time and became famous throughout Goa for his profligacy, but in the process brought his family to near ruin. After his death, for one generation, the family lived in penury but gradually with education, thrift and some land which was overlooked, came to be counted among the gentry again. After two generations, and with everything-to-the-eldest-son custom still ruling, the gambling genie which appeared to have been bottled, was uncorked. In between, the family experienced normality but more often than it should, also saw much misery in sudden deaths, strange sicknesses and even stranger accidents until the progeny could be traced no more. The once impressive, almost palatial family mansion stands desolate and derelict today, serving only to attract hushed whispers and warnings about gambling and cheating from passing villagers and their guests. This is not a stray and exceptional piece of Goan history. Facts and events like this played out over several generations are well known to every Goan. No village in any corner of Goa has been sequestered from such tragedies and very few wealthy families have had no similar skeletons in their cupboards. The skeletons tend to come alive even among the remnants of generations scattered in faraway lands. Facts of long ago may seem to have been forgotten but reappear when some older person in Goa with a long memory or a proclivity
[Goanet] Fr.Victor Ferrao's There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese landed I have been following the debate and an article on the same by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati may help throw light on the
*Yoga and** the Words Hindu and Hinduism** by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati *SwamiJ.com http://www.swamij.com/index.htm* * http://www.stumbleupon.com/submit?url=http://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm Index of sections below: Yoga, Hinduism and Physical Fitnesshttp://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm#yoga Usages of the words Hindu and Hinduismhttp://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm#usages Africanism, Americanism, and Europeanismhttp://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm#africanism Confusing the Part and the Whole http://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm#part Quotes about Hindu and Hinduismhttp://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm#quotes Dates of Hinduism http://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm#dates Wikipedia on Hinduism http://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm#wikipedia Rethinking religion in Indiahttp://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm#rethinking *YOGA , HINDUISM AND PHYSICAL FITNESS* It is extremely useful for the modern practitioner of authentic, traditional Yoga to be aware of two major diversions from traditional Yoga as a system of pursuing the depth of pure consciousness (atman, purusha or whatever name you choose to refer to that consciousness). One diversion is the now common and incorrect view that Yoga is a physical fitness program, rather than a process of moving towards the realization of the unity (Yoga) of the individual and the universal consciousness. This is addressed in the article Modern Yoga versus Traditional Yogahttp://www.swamij.com/traditional-yoga.htm . The other diversion is the view that Yoga is but one aspect of a religion known as Hinduism.* Modern Yoga practitioners and teachers often face the assertion by people in their community that they are practicing or teaching Hinduism. However, few of these modern Yoga practitioners realize that it is extremely questionable whether there even exists a singular, unified religion known as Hinduism. Rather than being religious, the word Hindu historically was a geographic, social, and cultural term. The Indic history is one of tremendous diversity of principles and practices, and has only recently in history been invented into the concept of a single, homogenized religion called Hinduism. If there is, in fact, no unified religion known as Hinduism, then it can hardly be accurately claimed that Yoga is part of that religion, much less that Yoga itself is a religion. (See also the paper by Dr. Arvind Sharma on an Indic contribution towards understanding the word religionhttp://www.swamij.com/religion-indic-sharma.htm ) *Please note that the explanations given here are with great respect, admiration and love for the Hindu people and culture, as well as acknowledging that there are a wide range of indigenous spiritual or religious views and practices within the geographic region. *USAGES OF THE WORDS HINDU AND HINDUISM* The words Hindu and Hinduism are described in different ways by different people. The origins and usages of the terms are not universally agreed upon. As you'll see in the references below, Hindu and Hinduism have been variously used to describe one or another of culture, geography, or religion. Some say that the terms were not used by the indigenous people until fairly recently in history, brought on by foreign peoples and governments, not their own evolution. Many say that the original collective term used for the diverse teachings of this region of the world is Dharmahttp://www.swamij.com/sanatana-dharma-what-is.htm or Sanatana Dharma http://www.swamij.com/sanatana-dharma-what-is.htm. There is some impetus in the world today to advocate these terms, either along side of, or instead of the terms Hindu and Hinduism. Yet, it is also useful to know and bear in mind that some advocates of the words Hindu and Hinduism can be very aggressive towards those who are not, but instead prefer the concept of Dharma. This aggression can be strongly experienced by practitioners of pure non-theistc yoga, which is not necessarily linked with or promoting of any of the various sects of deity worship. *AFRICANISM, AMERICANISM AND EUROPEANISM* A comparison that should clarify the situation is to consider that Hindu has historically related to a geographic region. Then reflect on the geographic regions of Africa, America (including north, central, and south), and Europe (or any other region of the world). Imagine for a moment that somebody tried to talk to you about religions known as Africanism, Americanism and Europeanism. Anything that had ever been done in Europe, for example, in the name of spiritual or religious practice throughout human history would be lumped under one umbrella religion which had various denominations, sects or orders of Europeanism. So too, all of the practices done by any of the historical peoples in the Americas would be considered to be part of the Americanism religion. Imagine you live in the United States or Canada and somebody asks you Why does your religion practice human sacrifice? Just because some people have done this in the
[Goanet] There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese
I agree to the first part of your message. In fact, this message/advise should have come from church thinkers! Instead they are up to something unwanted, unwarranted, unfounded, nonrealistic zealotry! Diana, you say '...We are framing our doctors' pictures and prescriptions on the wall, but are we really swallowing the doctors medicine?' Could you please elaborate/expand this line used by you? Best regards, U. G. Barad On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 Edwin/Diana Pinto eddipi...@gmail.com wrote: It really baffles me why all of us spend so much time and energy debating what happened in the distant past, when this can never be 100% confirmed as the last word in accuracy. These issues only serve to polarise our society even further. What does it matter anyway unless there is some lesson to be learnt by all of us? WE cannot undo the past. WHat is very important in my opinion is the manner in which we are charting our course TODAY and the manner in which we are living our lives here and now. Because, most of us are anyway failing to live up to our respective scriptures, or else our society would not be in the state that it is today. We are framing our doctors' pictures and prescriptions on the wall, but are we really swallowing the doctors medicine? Makes better sense to spend our time doing something to improve ourselves and our community today, rather than remaining mired in an irrelevant past..Diana Pinto
[Goanet] Scapular
On July 16, 1251, in the town of Aylesford, as he was praying to Mary, Our Lady appeared with the scapular in hand, and told him: Take, beloved son, this scapular of thy order as a badge of my confraternity and for thee and all Carmelites a special sign of grace; whoever dies in this garment will not suffer everlasting fire. It is the sign of salvation, a safeguard in dangers, a pledge of peace and of the covenant. Promises associated with the scapular are: Mary’s protection of the Carmelite order and all those who wear the scapular (including laymen of its Third Order); special help at one’s hour of death for all who wear the habit (or scapular) in Mary’s name. The Brown Scapular has been approved by the Church for over seven centuries. Today, the Church approves the Carmelites’ understanding of the meaning of the Brown Scapular as a commitment to follow Jesus, as did Mary, the perfect disciple of Christ. Mary has shown us how to open to God and His will; how to be guided by faith, hope and love and how to discover God’s presence in all that happens around us and to us. The scapular is not to be confused as a charm or an amulet to protect the wearer or as a guarantee of salvation. A person who wears the Brown Scapular practices the spirituality of the Carmelite order. Pope John Paul II has said: “Those who receive the scapular are associated more or less closely with the order of Carmel and dedicate themselves to the service of Our Lady for the good of the whole Church”. The brown scapular is approved by the church As most of us are not monks or nuns or belong to the third order or OCDS but wear the scapular out of devotion as well as belief in the Promises of Our Lady, we may practice the Order’s spirituality even without formal association to the Order We wear it as a matter of faith and belief. Even the fashion conscious people still wear it as a sacapular MEDAL though not very popular, with the same religious and spiritual significance ,value as the brown scapular. Forgetting it and keeping it here and there is considered as disrespect and objectionable. Some people buy them in scores for replacement. scapular medal are convenient and need not be removed during the bath if worn in attachment to chains, or on watches. too The plastic coated scapulars also are in vogue. The Catholics use it on new born during baptism ceremony to protect the young one from all dangers and evil forces. We are assured by the solemn promise of our lady of Mount about its efficacy, if we believe in faith. In modern times this custom and tradition seems to be on wane HAPPY FEAST Nelson Lopes chinchinim
Re: [Goanet] There were no Hindus in Goa.......
Radharao's longish post, which I glanced over, mentions Dr. S. Radhakrishnan whose book, the Hindu View of Life, is a must reading. Though there are other books on Hinduism, including many published by Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan, founded by Dr. KM Munshi, Dr. Radhakrishnan's book gives a broad insight. Having read some of the books published by the Bhavan in English translation, there's one book, not published by the Bhavan, is Hinduism by KM Sen. These books were enough for me to know about the religion though there are probably many which provides further insight into the mystery of Hinduism. A rejoinder to Fr. Ferrao's article would help further understand the issue at hand. Mayabhusan has quoted some books and my ex-colleague and friend Dr. PP Shirodkar. Perhaps, someone from Goa University's history department should able to throw some light. Prof. George Moraes's book, Kadamba Kula, has some insights into these socio-religious landscape before the Portuguese arrival. Prof. Jose Pereira is a historian who has delved into Goa's past and explored Christian heritage and architecture, as well as written a book, Hindu Theology. I am not sure if he is in good health to make his view known on this subject and I am also not sure if he still continues to be a member of Goanet. If he's still on this forum, I humbly request Dr. Pereira to give us his profound insight. Eugene Correia
[Goanet] Xit-Koddi - e-Newsletter of Bahrain Goans - July 2013
Former Tourism Minister of Goa Francisco Mickey Pacheco and Agnelo Fernandes Ex-MLA of Congress Party are both past residents of Bahrain. This time around, is possibly the closest we will ever get to chasing the dream of a former Goan resident of Bahrain becoming first lady of a nation. Marissa Coutinho.. Read This and Other Regular Features in the Bahrain Goans e-newsletter 'Xit-Koddi' of July 2013.Now Available Online At: https://sites.google.com/site/bahraingoans/xit-koddi---jul-2013
Re: [Goanet] There were no Hindus in Goa before Portuguese landed
As almost everyone knows the word HINDU is originally derived from letters in the phrase Delirious Portuguese Goan Catholics. Since we have wanna-be MENSA candidates in cyber-Goa, I do not have to highlight the letters, besides plain text email has its limitations. Second-class Goan Catholics under colonial Portuguese rule did not want to consider only themselves as special. While doing nothing (much like cyber-Goans today sit back and write about Goa, while the motherland is sold to the highest bidder and most crimes are on the increase), the original settlors of Goa (second-class Goan Catholics under colonial Portuguese rule) invented a new category called Hindu Goans. This was just to altruistically share their specialness. Hope this clarification helps. So now you know the truth. George
[Goanet] Goa news for July 16, 2013
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** AP youngster drowns after falling from Goa casino ship - Oneindia 8Ptz7kKbR15C5YOTNQ http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFza_QPtnEpxzGbZKfP5lgIHSx4tgurl=http://news.oneindia.in/2013/07/15/ap-youngster-drowns-after-falling-from-goa-casino-ship-1259839.html *** 'My target is to develop local talent' - Sporting Clube de Goa coach Oscar Bruzon - Goal.com eague standings. My target is to develop local talent. We (Sporting Goa) have a very big batch of young players with a lot of them between the age of 19 and 21 ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHQKW_MTs2KiOf7rhY50qfU4lV8PQurl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1064/i-league/2013/07/14/4113640/my-target-is-to-develop-local-talent-sporting-clube-de-goa-coach- *** Goa BJP to begin door-to-door campaign ahead of Lok Sabha polls - Economic Times har Chalo Abhiyaan' (door-to-door campaign) from July 16 onwards which will galvanise the party for the forthcoming Lok Sabha polls, party's Goa unit spokesman Dr Wilfred Mesquita told reporters today. The party is already in ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFos9HpF7Z11aR-I5McDTUQXJEPfwurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/goa-bjp-to-begin-door-to-door-campaign-ahead-of-lok-sabha-polls/articleshow/21081885.cms *** Goa salvo at Centre over ban on mining backfires - Indian Express dian ExpressGOA government's request to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to take a pragmatic view on mining in the state appears to have backfired. The Prime Minister's Office has responded that several mining projects have not been cleared, or otherwise, because ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFo-aek_w4OhSvryn57OFnf5m9XQgurl=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/goa-salvo-at-centre-over-ban-on-mining-backfires/1142240/ *** Report on Goa mines submitted to ministry of environment and forests - Times of India perational mines in Goa to MoEF's expert appraisal committee (EAC). The EAC will now scrutinize the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHnaSdz33-18qPP4EcafecWWA8j5Aurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Report-on-Goa-mines-submitted-to-ministry-of-environment-and-forests/articleshow/21076391.cms *** Over 60 medicine, dentistry seats to be filled in Goa in round two of admissions - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Goa's aspirants for medicine and dentistry seats have more than 60 spots up for grabs when the second round of admissions opens on [July 24, 2013] . Goa has only one medicine and one dental college, both state owned and the state has no private ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHkqEtq61Wi2nFOebSOsYBwQawHAQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Over-60-medicine-dentistry-seats-to-be-filled-in-Goa-in-round-two-of-admissions/articleshow/21085703.cms *** 'Temples destroyed in Goa by Portuguese were not Hindu' - Zee News axHe0XMlyXYMned=usand more » http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHcQJUiP0znWxP4uX-uG8OifqCntwurl=http://zeenews.india.com/news/goa/temples-destroyed-in-goa-by-portuguese-were-not-hindu_862351.html *** Goa to curb midday meal 'wastage,' but quality goes unchecked - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The Goa education department has written to schools asking them to inform the number of students that actually consume midday meal so that any wastage of cooked food could be avoided. The directives closely follow a case of food poisoning in a ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFScTRi18NNB_Y_jNzZlONZd3incwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-to-curb-midday-meal-wastage-but-quality-goes-unchecked/articleshow/21084267.cms *** BJP to begin door-to-door campaign in Goa - Hindu Business Line har Chalo Abhiyaan' (door-to-door campaign) from July 16 onwards which will galvanise the party for the forthcoming Lok Sabha polls, party's Goa unit spokesman Dr Wilfred Mesquita told PTI today. The party is already in the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNF1DeRxSGPWqbd1J-wOARVSiAh6zgurl=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/politics/bjp-to-begin-doortodoor-campaign-in-goa/article4917207.ece *** Goa pitches for more monsoon tourists - Times of India une in New Delhi, roadshows and promotional events are being ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEPZBa6msC4K-PmW6hSMVqH8ORZBgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-pitches-for-more-monsoon-tourists/articleshow/21093489.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
