[Goanet] Punjabi Christian reject Goan Bishops in Pakistan
The above mentioned story carries many false statements. Firstly, there are still ( thank God) about 10,000 Goans in Pakistan about 9,700 of them in Karachi alone. Also, Goans were never helped by the church to migrate to the West. However, the Protestant churches did help in sending large amounts of Punjabi Christians to the west under the Special Agricultural Workers ( US SAW Visas program ) of the mid-70's. Many were also sent to train at church run seminaries never to return. Bishop John Joseph of Faisalabad shot himself in the head outside the a Courthouse in broad-day light in front of hundreds of people on May 6, 1998. (See Daily Dawn, Karachi of May 7, 1998.) Later it transpired that he did so to cover up massive financial wrong doings and avoid being defrocked by the Vatican. Still he did considerable financial damage to the diocese of Faisalabad and left it broke. His close lady associate also managed to take away the parish-owned land cruiser. It is also wrong to say that there are no Punjabi bishops..currently there are two Punjabi Bishops...Sebastian Shah of Lahore and Rufin Anthony of Rawalpindi-Islamabad. The Goan clergy do not meddle in politics...and it was a government decision to revert to the Joint Electorate system which was the norm from the creation of Pakistan until the dictator Gen. Zia-ul-Haq imposed the Separate Electorate System under pressure of the mullahs. In the Separate Electorate system minorities can only vote for a minority candidate which were only 10 out of 237 National Assembly members. The vast majority of minorities of Pakistan left cut of from the main stream and held many protest demonstrations etc to restore the Joint Electorate System under which one can vote for any candidate irrespective of religion and it was re-instated by Gen. Musharraf. regards, John
[Goanet] 'Hindu Taliban' threatens Goa bars
'Hindu Taliban' threatens Goa bars A Hindu nationalist group has warned it plans to target women drinking alcohol in the beach bars of Goa, India’s tropical hot spot. The Sri Rama Sene group, described by Indian media as the “Hindu Taliban”, says the former Portuguese enclave is the centre of an immoral culture that is spreading throughout India. Its leader, Pramod Muthalik, said his group would start by asking bar owners to close down, and if that failed, it would launch direct attacks on the tourist clientele. The threat follows a recent attack on female drinkers in a Mangalore bar and a series of assaults on courting couples on Valentine’s night. Sri Rama Sene is officially banned in Goa, but sympathy for its anti-western values is growing among those who live in an area increasingly blighted by the effects of drug and alcohol abuse. Local police are swift to crack down on beach parties and other so-called illegal gatherings — a British tourist was among several beaten up by police at a rave at a restaurant on Anjuna beach last week — and the Goan authorities have announced that tourists wearing beachwear deemed an “affront to the religious sentiments of Hindus” will be asked to cover up. T-shirts bearing the image of the Hindu deity Shiva — commonly worn by backpackers — are among the items targeted. “We have formed teams to travel to the coastal areas to seize such clothes and arrest the sellers of such garments,” said the deputy collector, AJ D’Souza
[Goanet] Goan? HR worker with UN busted in chid-porn rap
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com Human rights worker with United Nations ties, Clarence Dias, caught with child pornography BY ALISON GENDAR and NICOLE BODE DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS Wednesday, January 21st 2009, 12:29 AM A high-ranking human rights worker with ties to the United Nations was nabbed at Kennedy Airport Tuesday with kiddie porn in his suitcase, officials said. Clarence Dias, 65, president of the International Center for Law in Development, whose offices are located at the UN, had the smut in his carry-on bag as he passed through security on his way to a flight bound for Bangkok, Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said. Transportation Security Administration officials doing a random bag check around 8:20a.m. allegedly found a DVD whose cover featured an apparently underage nude boy and an adult male in Dias' handbag, prosecutors said. The video's title - Winner Pub Pattaya - apparently refers to a beach resort in Thailand, authorities said. There were also other lewd photographs in the bag, authorities said. Dias - who holds a doctorate in law from Bombay University and Cornell Law School and has taught at Boston College of Law - claimed the porn was for research, authorities said. He admitted it was his - but tried to play it off. He said he was doing research on how to better make sure kids' rights were not abused, a police source said. Yeah, sure. It's always research. Calls to Dias' office went straight to voicemail Tuesday. The humanitarian group calls itself a Third World NGO [nongovernmental organization] concerned about human rights in the development process. This is the latest sex scandal to roil the UN. The agency came under fire in 2002 for turning a blind eye to wide-scale sexual abuse of West African refugee children by its own aid workers and peacekeepers. UN workers from nine countries - including Britain and India - were accused of sexually exploiting children in dozens of refugee camps in war-torn Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia, the internal report found. Dias was expected to be arraigned last night at Queens Criminal Court on felony charges of possessing an obscene sexual performance by a child. He could face up to four years in prison if convicted. agen...@nydailynews.com
Re: [Goanet] God sucks
Dear Goanetters, I was shocked and saddened to see such words appear on Goanet in the context of God especially on the eve of His Son birthday. I am sure almost all decent Goans will also be repulsed by such language. Warm regards, John D'Souza Moderator Margaonet
[Goanet] Advice on returning to Goa
Dear Remy, Don't be foolishonce you return to Goa after burning your boats you will be stuck. I have been in the UK for over 30 years and do visit Goa but living there with all the corruption and hanky-panky of politicians is not something I can get used to. Also if you do want to leave the UK, I would suggest Canada. My cousin who is a British citizen did just that after living in the UK for 10 years. The reasonthe Goans were friendlier on the other side on the pond. So DON'T make a foolish mistake. The opportunity that the West affords for your wife and family to develop is very much more than what Goa or India can ever offer in your life time. Warm regards, John D'Souza
[Goanet] Sindi Organizations in Goa
I friend of mine is looking for the contact address of Sindi organizations in Goa. I would appreciate any information. Warm regards, John D'Souza Moderator Margao-Net __ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html
Re: [Goanet] Jesus is my valentine
Dear Goanetter, For the life of me I cannot understand when and why Jesus has gotten involved in an event for lovers honouring St. Valentine. I would believe that it would be better if Jesus is left out of this purely social event in the present day scheme of things. John D'Souza Moderator Margao-Net ___ Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. http://www.yahoo.co.uk/blackberry
Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Bringing Sorpotel to your END!
Dear friends, I DO NOT see any humour in bringing our national and well-loved dish into ridicule. I do not speak for the readers but I think such material should not grace the the airwaves of cyberspace through Goanet. Warm regards, John F.D'Souza --- Goanet Reader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These lines of verse, the origin of which are unclear, surfaced recently via the St Mary's GreenChillies network at [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stmarysgirlsmapusa/] VIVA LA SORPOTEL Bringing Sorpotel to your END! It's just occured to me, (and I'm sure to you as well), There must be some who read this, Who've never heard of SORPOTEL! And as I am so thoughtful, I'll do you guys a favour, Though you won't get a mouthful, I'll try to catch the flavour. It's made of many piggy parts, Heart, fat and liver, Vinegar that smells like f*rts, (Looks like water from the river). The meat is chopped in little bits, After being on the boil. Forty chillies to give you the sh*ts, And half a gallon of oil. And all the grand ol' aunties, Will insist, you'll see, On half a pint of piggy blood, For the right consistency. Oh! Why are you gagging? Why do you look so pale? Did you hear granny bragging? It's better when it's stale! It's delicious and it's really HOT We eat on 25t h December, On boxing day sit on the pot, And boy! Do we remember! So grab your rope my dearest friends, Draw some water from your well. You'll need plenty of it at both your ends, When you experience SORPOTEL!!! A THOUGHTFUL CHRISTMAS A MEANINGFUL NEW YEAR 2008 --- Spread the Christmas Cheer, even when you're not here! Send classic greetings to your loved ones in Goa. EXPRESSIONS - 2007 Christmas Hamper Visit http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ Or e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/
Re: [Goanet] Catholic children and Catholic schools
Dear Goo-Netters, I feel very very strongly that ALL Catholic children should attend Catholic institutions as far as possible. My parents are products of Catholic institutions ( Loretto Convent and St. Bananbus High School and St. Xavier College, Calcutta) and my wife's parents attended St. Joseph's Convent, Bandra, Bombay and St. George's, Missouri near Derha Dun. I have attend St. Patrick's High School and St. Patrick's College in Karachi,( unfortunately, the Church does not have a university in Karachi and I had to attend Karachi University) and my wife, St. Joseph's Convent. Our children, a boy and a girl go to the same schools as we did. All our Aunts, Uncles and cousins attended or are attending Catholic institutions in India and Pakistan. In practical life I have found that those with a Catholic education are head and shoulders above others of a similar level educated in Pakistani government or private schools. Also in the job market, graduates of Catholic institutions are snapped up on the strength of the name of the institution. Also, because the Catholics are very few in number, most of the students of Catholic schools are Muslims who also benefit from a good education. I firmly believe that Catholic schools afford a well rounded education and instill in their students charecter building values. Secular schools, in Karachi at least, are money making rackets and care a fig about imparting education. Like, Rico, I too would like to know the opinion of other Goa-netters especially those who are living in the west. Warm regards, Michael Ali Karachi, Pakistan ___ Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Late Sanny Vaz should be awarded
Dear Friends, I would like to nominate the late Sanny Vaz for an award by the Kala Academy or the Government of Goa for an award for a lifetime devoted to Konkani music and stage. I hope you will concur with me and assist it making my desire see reality. Warm regards, John D'Souza Moderator Margao-Net __ Are you a hoarder? Then you'll love Yahoo! Mail with unlimited storage. http://uk.mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Deepest Condolences to Sanny Vaz's family
John D'Souza, Moderator of Margao-Net is deeply saddened by the sudden passing away of Sanny Vaz in Kuwait. He was Margao-Net's most regular contributor. The Moderator and members of Margao-Net send their deepest sympathies and condolences to his family in Quepem. May his soul rest in peace and mat the good Lord grant unto him eternal life. Amen John D'Souza Moderator Margao-Net ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Shipping between Mombasa and Bombay
If memory servers me right, there was indeed a ship named SS Asia ( and not MV, as correct pointed out by Cornel) which was the sister ship of the SS Victoria and did dock in Karachi on its way to Bombay in the early sixteesn. I remember boarding the SS Victoria at Karachi as a little boy with my aunt to meet some of her relatives who were servering on the ship and hailed from her village in Goa. I believe both were owned by the Llyod Tresino line. John D'Souza ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Aisha de Sequeira appointed by Morgan Stanley to head Indian operations
Morgan Stanley, which split with JM Financial in India, has announced that it has received an investment banking license for India. In February this year, JM and Morgan Stanley ended their 10-year old partnership. As part of the deal, Morgan Stanley sold its 49 per cent stake in their investment banking joint venture to JM Financial for $20 million, and simultaneously bought out JMs 49 per cent stake in their brokerage joint venture for $445 million. Morgan Stanley was handicapped in the last eight months since it did not have an investment banking licence. It was able to advise only on cross-border MA, and underwrite non-domestic capital market transactions, says Dow Jones. The firm has been provided a licence by Securities Exchange Board of India. The license gives us access to what is an important and vibrant domestic investment banking market, Dow Jones quotes Hans Schuettler, chief executive of Morgan Stanley in Asia, as saying. The firm will now be able to provide onshore investment banking advisory and underwriting services, as well as underwrite domestic IPOs. The company has also announced the appointment of Narayan Ramachandran as its chief executive and country head for India. He is currently the head of the firms investment management operations in the country. It also appointed Aisha de Sequeira, a senior banker at Morgan Stanley in New York, as head of investment banking in India, to be based in Mumbai. The company, which has 1,100 employees in India, also has plans to develop its private-equity operations, and expand real estate investments. ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] old messages
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For RR; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear friends, I too have suddenly been getting old messages from July in my inbox. I have written to the Moderator about this problem. It seems that it has been fixed now. Warm regards, John D'Souza ___ Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. http://www.yahoo.co.uk/blackberry
[Goanet] Congratulations India
TRI Continental Film Festival - Dona Paula, Goa, Sep 28 - Oct 2, 2007 http://www.moviesgoa.org/tricontinental/tricon.htm For public viewing. Registration at The International Centre Goa. (Ph: +91-832-2452805 to 10) Online Media Partner: http://www.GOANET.org Congratulations to India's Cricket team on their good performance despite being a completely revamped and young team. They played well. Pakistan, too, with a revamped team without the oldtimers also put up a very good fight...right till the end. I personally like the T20 format...its short, exciting and thrilling. JF D'Souza Moderator Margao-Net ___ Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Joining Moira-net
http://www.GOANET.org TRI Continental Film Festival - Dona Paula, Goa, Sep 28 - Oct 2, 2007 http://www.moviesgoa.org/tricontinental/tricon.htm For public viewing Registration at The International Centre Goa Ph: +91 (832) 2452805 to 10 Online Media Partner: http://www.GOANET.org Dear Mr. Braganza, When I subscribe to become a member I receive a message that one cannot join unless invited by the owner. Could you either make me a member or give me the owners email address. Thanking you, John D'Souza ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Two Goan boys make it to the finals of Music Contest
http://www.GOANET.org TRI Continental Film Festival - Dona Paula, Goa, Sep 28 - Oct 2, 2007 http://www.moviesgoa.org/tricontinental/tricon.htm For public viewing Registration at The International Centre Goa Ph: +91 (832) 2452805 to 10 Online Media Partner: http://www.GOANET.org Received from Debbie Santamaria in Karachi, Pakistan. Please share this post with your friends and ask them to vote for our boys ... . ..and make us PROUD TO BE GOANS Two talented brothers, Jason and Druston D'Mello, from Milton Keynes have made it to the finals of a nationwide search for pop stars and would be grateful for the votes of anyone from Milton Keynes, their home town. All it takes to vote for them is a click of a mouse... Jason, 17, and Druston, 15, are currently studying at St. Paul's Catholic School in Milton Keynes. They are both exceptional musicians- Jason has achieved a grade 7 in piano at the Yamaha Music School and is a self taught lead guitarist and singer in the band. Druston plays bass guitar and is the lead singer in the band. He began singing on stage at the age of 6. These talented teens reached for stardom when they entered an Instant Pop Star competition sponsored by Coco Cola. They have had the opportunity to meet and record songs with two famous producers, Simon Hill and Rob May, who have been recording and touring with bands including JTQ, Kim Wilde, Pet Shop Boys, West Life and Steps. The brothers sing songs from the 60's onwards. The songs of Elvis Presley, Cliff Richard, Eagles, Dire Straits, Bob Marley, UB40, Bryan Adams are some that the brothers sing. And the list is endless... Jason and Druston both feel that they owe their achievements to Milton Keynes, as they have grown up here since birth. They are proud to represent Milton Keynes in this competition and winning it with the votes from our community will promote the image of MK to the wider musical community. Their three recorded songs are now placed on the Instant Pop Star Website. Entering Druston D'Mello in the search field will display the three songs. Voting commenced on 3rd September 2007 and will conclude on 30th September 2007. The first three places with the highest votes will be given the opportunity to record an original song in a professional recording studio. Druston's song 'You're Beautiful' is currently at number one (1st position). Jason and Druston would be grateful for the support of anyone, especially people living in Milton Keynes. All it takes is a click of a mouse, and you could be helping these talented brothers put Milton Keynes on the map. To vote go to the Instant Pop Star Website. ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html
[Goanet] Missionary school shut after warning
http://www.GOANET.org TRI Continental Film Festival - Dona Paula, Goa, Sep 28 - Oct 2, 2007 http://www.moviesgoa.org/tricontinental/tricon.htm Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Missionary school shut after warning Daily Dawn, Karachi September 10,2007 By Hameedullah Khan MINGORA, Sept 9: A Christian missionary girls school at Sangota was closed down for an indefinite period on Sunday after a letter threatening suicide attacks was issued purportedly by an extremist organisation. The organisation charged the schools administration of preaching Christianity and vulgarity among students. The organisation Janisaran-e-Islam (Devotees of Islam) issued a two-page red notice in Urdu language warning the Sangota Public Schools administration to wind up its activities and replace the Christian staff with Muslims within seven days or else face suicide attacks. Local police enhanced security for the Christian staff, including some women Sri Lankan nationals, at the school. Keeping in view the current uncertain situation in the area we have decided to close down the school for an indefinite period, the acting principal Ms Seema said. She added that the school would reopen after the situation improved. Principal Ms Constantine, hailing from Sri Lanka, was on leave. Two other Sri Lankan staffers were Ms Welmarina and Ms Moraine. We have taken appropriate measures for the safety of the staff and have enhanced the number of policemen deputed at the school, DSP Mingora Abdul Kalam told Dawn. The school was established in 1954 and was currently educating 950 girl students out of which 215 were boarders. The school was gifted by the British Government to the then Wali of Swat and was initially co-ed, but since 1998, it had only been admitting girl students. Hostel students have started leaving the school fearing attacks. Some students regretted that it was unjust on part of the militant organisations to deprive them of seeking education. The militant group had on Saturday sent the letter to the local press club directing it to publish it in newspapers. Earlier, similar letters were sent to different people, including video and CD shops, hairdressers, net cafes, nurses, girls schools and organisations dealing with population planning. Some shops and infrastructures were targeted when their warnings were ignored. In the letter, the extremist organisation warned the school administration to replace male and Christian students with Muslims and ordered the school shut till such an arrangement was in place. It added that students should be clad in burqa while going to school and younger girls should wear head-scarves. They warned parents that if any student was seen without a burqa then they would target them with suicide attacks. The organisation levelled serious allegations against the schools administration alleging that hostel students were being taken to the church located inside the school during the night. Moreover, it added that students were being encouraged to use the Internet, which they used for chatting and viewing vulgar pictures. The organisation alleged that girl students of class fourth and fifth were being taught by women teachers whereas males had been recruited for higher classes. The militants warned guardians of the students of dire consequences if their demands were not fulfilled. ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Muslim caste system
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For RR; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Islam does not have a rigid caste system as Hinduism does. What Gilbert has mentioned are different sects. For example we cannot classify Roman Catholic,Baptists, Anglican, Calvinists etc as castes of Christianity. In Pakistan, only the police has a column for caste. And they clasifiy Sheikhs, Syeds, etc as different caste. Also for others they write their tribal afflications. But technically, this is not correct. I believe that the still follow the old format forms left behind by the British. Hence, to my knowlodge there is no caste system practiced in Islam in the religious sense. Warm regards, JFD Moderator Margao-Net ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Looking for a friend in Vasco
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Dear friends, A friend of mine, a Mr. Gerry Fernandes of Karachi is looking for his friend, a Mr. Michael Fernandes whose father's worked for the Karachi Gymkhana while in Karachi. Michael is believed to be living in Vasco in Goa. I would deeply appreciate if anyone knowing of him could put him in touch with me so I can forward his address to my friend, Gerry. Many thanks John ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] CHRISTIANS THREATENED: CONVERT TO ISLAM OR DIE IN PAKISTAN
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- CHRISTIANS THREATENED: CONVERT TO ISLAM OR DIE The same threatening letter was sent to Christian communities in Charsadda and Mardan, ordering the closure of churches and conversion to Islam within 10 days on pain of execution. The police are treating it as a joke. The bishop of Islamabad has expressed deep fear and called for the support of the government the world. 05/11/2007 Islamabad (AsiaNews) Convert to Islam within 10 days and shut down all the countrys churches: the ultimatum was delivered in a threatening letter that Muslim fundamentalists sent to Christian communities in Charsadda and Mardan, in northern Pakistan. If their orders are not obeyed, all Christians will be executed. The letter was sent on 7 May to local churches, who immediately took it to the police. Feroz Shah, district inspector of Charsadda, said he had investigated the matter. For him, its a joke, and so there is no need to make any arrests Christians, he added, are safe and well protected in the area. Mgr Anthony Lobo, bishop of Islamabad-Rawalpind i, does not share the inspectors view. He told AsiaNews: This letter is not a joke, but a threat that needs to be taken seriously. It has left the Christian community of Pakistan very frightened. We have already appealed to higher powers in the country to ask for help and we will continue to do so. The bishop said it was important to understand that even jokes, if aimed at minorities, could become reality. Even if this letter is the work of an isolated madman, its possible that he may commit some atrocity against Christians. The bishop added: Now we must pray, but we cannot stop at that. We have already protested against this situation of fear and uncertainty and we will continue to do so. In the meantime, I appeal to the world to help us in this dangerous struggle against fundamentalism. ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Domnic's Goa
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor The members and moderator of Margao-Net are happy to offer our heartfelt congratulations to Mr. Domnic Fernandes on the schedule launch of his bookDomnic's Goa---A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. We wish him all success and eagerly await the arrival of his book at bookstalls in Goa and abroad. May the book enjoy widespread readership and become a collector item. Regards, John D'souza Moderator Marhao-Net ___ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html ---
[Goanet] Request for prayers
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. A friend of mine is going through a difficult patch in her life right now. I know she could use and will appreciate all the prayers she can get.Do spare her a thought during your prayers. The results of her treatment will be known within the next 6 - 8 months. Thanks a million. John F. D'Souza Moderator Margao-Net ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Re: [Goanet] How to estimate the age of a coconut tree?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear Mr.de Tavares Thank you very much for your kind reply. This has added to my knowledge. Warm regards, John ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
[Goanet] How to estimate the age of a coconut tree?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear friends, Could you tell me how the age of a coconut tree is estimated? When I was in Margao last month one of my wife's relatives mentioned that it had somethiung to do with its height...but he did not elaborate. Thank you very much. DEV Borem Korem Warm regards, John D'Souza ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Dinesh D'Souza's The Enemy at home
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Reading the appalling views disseminted in the book under review, I am forced to come to the conclusion that people like Dinesh D'Souza IS the Enemy at Home!!! Dev. Borem Korem John D'Souza ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
[Goanet] Cooks and Butlers
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear listers, Exactly WHERE can I find a good Goan cook...I have been looking for one in Europe but cannot get one even after trying for over two years. Cooks and Butlers are in great demand not only in Europe but also in North America. And, needless to say, are very well paid. Warm regards, John ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Are catholics superior than others?
*** * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * *** T H I SS P A C EC A NB EY O U R S Advertise your Product(s) and Service(s) on Goanet S u p p o r t G o a n e t o p e r a t i o n s F o r d e t a i l s c o n t a c t : [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Are Catholics superior to others? They may not be...but they sure seem to think so. Dev Borem Korum John ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
[Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular
* * * 2006 ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET - GOA * * * WHERE: Foodland Cafe - Miramar Residency - Miramar, Goa WHEN: December 21, 2006 @ 4:00pm More info: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-December/051398.html Goanet should be kept 'secular' in the sense that topics relating to all religions that Goans subscribe to should be open to discussion.Religion is part of the Goan psyche and thus forms an integral part of the individual...most of our social and ethic behaviour stems from religious values. John D'Souza ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
[Goanet] Happy Thanksgiving to Americans of Goan origin
Dear Mario, Your heart bleeds for the Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are suffering today for the OWN fault. If they have mindless fellow Muslims in their midst whose only aim is to disrupt the lives of their fellow beings trhen they should DEAL WITH THEM. Let me give you a couple of examples... After World War II, Japan and Germany were fully destroyed. The US helped them build their countries up...they not only cooperated with US troops but also were thankfully to them. The Marshall plan went a long way to put them on their feet again. They had the good sense to realize that the US, their enemy, was there to help them so they accepted all the aid and see where they are today. Both Iraq and Afghanistan have got this golden opportunity to build up their country and get on the road to progress. But as yourself, they too have blinkers on or is it that both Japan and Germany were non-Muslim countries where better sense prevails. I agree with the views of Gabe and Selma and certainly not with your. DEV BOREM KORUM John D'Souza Moderator Margao-Net ___ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. The New Version is radically easier to use The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Panjim or Panaji
Nearly all Catholic Goans, whom I have encountered in different parts of the worlsd still refer to Goa's capital as Panjim. Likewise, only officialdom calls Margao, Madgaon and Bombay,Mumbai. Michael Karachi, Pakistan Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Bombay-Goa ferry service
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear friends, Would any one know if the Bombay-Goa ferry service is operational or not as I will be coming to Goa accompanied by a friend. If yes, could I have an email address of the company for booking from Bombay. Dev Borem Korum John Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Toronto... and a Hindu Mass
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details I am simply stunned that such a Tamasha could be held in a church and that too in the name of Holy Mass. I believe the right thinking Catholics should protest to the Catholic Bishops Conference of India that such nonsense can be practiced. What is worse but it seems that this blasphemy has their official sanction. It is high time we do something practical about the situation before it gets out of hand. I have attended Mass in many countries but have NEVER seen or heard of such unholy acts being committed being committed in the name of the Mass. Regards, John D'Souza Moderator'Margao-Net Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] The History of Traditional Marian Prayers
The History of Traditional Marian Prayers
Posted by: gorettiali_nee_dsouza @yahoo.com on
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Fri Oct 6, 2006 11:41 pm (PST)
The History of Traditional Marian Prayers
The Angelus
The name of this prayer derives from the first Latin
word ('angel').
The Angelus was not officially approved in its current
form until
1724 by Pope Benedict XIV, who prescribed the prayers
be said at
dawn (6am), noon (12pm) and dusk (6pm) throughout the
year except
during the Easter season when the Regina Coeli was to
be recited.
Originally, three Hail Marys were said, with the words
of the
Incarnation coming into popular usage as time passed.
An Angelus
bell (three slow peals) would ring calling the
faithful to prayer at
the appropriate times, which has varied historical
origins:
Evening
Francicans of Assisi ring a 'Hail Mary Bell' in 1269
to call to mind
the Incarnation
Pope John XXII approves the now widespread custom of
the bell and
three Hail Marys in 1318
Morning
The three Hail Marys and ringing of the bell is done
at dawn as well
as in the evening in Parma, Italy, 1318
The custom spreads rapidly throughout Europe
Midday
Pope Callistus III orders the practice of the bell and
Hail Marys at
midday as an 'Angelus of Peace' in 1456
Hail Holy Queen (Salve Regina)
The origin of the prayer is disupted between Petrus of
Monsoro (d.
about 1000), Bishop of Compostella, and Adhémar,
Bishop of Podium,
the first to answer the call to a Crusade. It was
definitely
popularized and set in its current form by Bernard of
Clairvaux and
the Abbey of Cluny in the 12th century. From that
time, it has
enjoyed wide liturgical use from the Mass to the
Divine Office.
Hail Mary
The early history of the Hail Mary is not clear, as
the words are
taken from Scripture and it is difficult to ascertain
when the
greeting/prayer was distinctly used. One source
attributes the
distinct use of the first half to St. Idlefonsus of
Toledo in the
7th century. Its use as a salutation and prayer begin
to appear from
frequently in the 11th and 12th centuries, though the
first half
only was regarded as the 'Hail Mary'. Here are the
parts of the
prayer:
Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee
(Luke 1:28
with 'Mary' gradually added by the Church)
Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the
fruit of thy
womb, Jesus ( Luke 1:42 with 'Jesus' being added by
Pope Urban IV in
1261)
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now
and at the
hour of our death. Amen (based on the declaration of
the Council of
Ephesus in 431, this part of the prayer appeared in
the mid-15th
century, being codified by the Council of Trent in
1568)
Magnificat
This is the only hymn of praise composed by the
Blessed Virgin Mary,
as recorded in Luke 1:46-55. It is delivered as a
response to her
cousin Elizabeth's greeting (Blessed art though among
women...) on
the occasion of the Visitation. The name derives from
the first
Latin word in the hymn, which is often used as a
prayer.
Memorare
The Memorare, from the Latin 'remember' which is the
first word in
the Latin translation, was traditionally thought to
have been
composed by the Cisterian St. Bernard of Clairvaux. It
was
popularized in the 15th century by a French priest,
Claude Bernard
(who some also attribute its origin). It emphasizes
Mary's role as
intercessor and her unbroken history of answering the
prayer of
those who call to her.
Queen of Heaven (Regina Coeli)
The first lines of the Regina Coeli (from the Latin
words which
begin the prayer) were spoken by angels to St. Gregory
the Great in
the 7th century on an Easter morning as he was in
procession. He
added the fourth line. It continued to be used with a
prayer added
later, and was officially designated as an alternate
prayer to the
Angelus by Pope Benedict XIV in the 18th century.
Sub Tuum
This prayer was found on a 3rd century papyrus in
Egypt, making it
one of the oldest verifiable prayers to Mary. It
emphasizes the
Blessed Virgin's role as intercessor, and is one of
the few non-
European prayers to gain popularity in the Latin Rite
Church.
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