Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] STATEMENT: Alina Saldanha questions MPT on floating hotels in Zuari
Dear Madam,I am moved by the pro-active action taken by you to alert the Goan people. Usually our politicians make small, empty noises only when there is intense public pressure. There is a lot that can and should be done to protect the flagrant abuse of our beautiful GOA. If you may allow me to suggest, for greater and more effective public participation, why don’t you introduce an internet site like “Change.org”? Such Sites are very effective and encourages public participation. Moreover, when you insert a questionnaire like “Why is this important to you?” you come to know what moves, stirs and matters to people. Also, it provides Ministers like you, instant updates of how many people are supporting and willing to sign up to your cause. People should have access to sign the petition via the net no matter where we Goans live and work. Good luck and best wishes in protecting our very-dear-to -our-hearts MY-GOA! Yours sincerely, Lawrence Rodrigues Resident of Alto-Porvorim > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:30:34 +0530 > From: news.goa...@gmail.com > To: goa...@goanet.org > Subject: [Goanet-News] STATEMENT: Alina Saldanha questions MPT on floating > hotels in Zuari > > Tel :( O): 2419821 2419522 Fax: 2419854 Mobile : 9822160941 > > Smt. ALINA SALDANHA > Minister for Forest & Environment, > Secretariat, Porvorim – Goa. > > Ref: MIN. FOR & ENV/PRESS/2012-13/ > Dated: 11/07/2013 > > PRESS NOTE > > Mrs. Alina Saldanha, Minister for Forests & Environment in a Press Note > released today stated that it has been reported in the newspapers that MPT > is currently processing two proposals of private parties for setting up > floating hotels in the Zuari river. In this article MPT has not specified > the actual location of these hotels. MPT Chairman’s statement that "It is > left to the proposer where they want to anchor the floating hotels and > accordingly, the space will be provided to them" makes dangerous reading. > He has further said, "The MPT will not achieve much, but it will help boost > tourism in the State." > > It appears that MPT is only interested in revenue generation for itself and > is not bothered about the ecological and environmental damage such projects > may cause to the state or its people. It is also not bothered if its mega > projects adversely affect the other stakeholders in the area such as > Ramponkars, Magkars and small time fishermen. > > MPT continues to exercise the powers which were entrusted to it during the > colonial period. MPT should not be allowed to treat the rivers and > inland/coastal waters of Goa as its private fiefdom leasing acres of water > to various parties. MPT also claims to have signed 2 MOUs with Private > parties for setting up marinas in the Zuari River. The areas proposed for > the Marina Projects are very rich in biodiversity but for MPT it is only an > area of water which can leased out for income generation regardless of the > costs to people, their livelihood, the environment and ecology. > > Matanhy had always fought for de-notification of MPT jurisdiction over > inland and coastal areas (water) and had even made a specific mention in his > manifesto of this as one of the issues to be taken up with the Centre. > > Mrs. Saldanha said that it is high time the State Govt. takes up the matter > with the Central Govt. to ensure that MPT's powers/jurisdiction is > restricted to only a well defined port area, as is the case with other ports > in India. > > She further called upon the Goan Freedom Fighters to raise their voices so > that this Portuguese era law, prevailing only in the State of Goa and which > is detrimental to the interest of the State and its people is repealed at > the earliest. > > Sd/- > ALINA SALDANHA > (Min. FOR & ENV) > > --- > SEND YOUR feedback to alinasaldanha2...@gmail.com and goa...@goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Take your supporters, and your religious wars, elsewhere
<< All of you please start a fresh new Yahoo Group where you discuss only matters of religion and American politics. And leave us others to discuss Goa related issues. Its getting too sickening. >> Cecil Pinto << I second Cecil Pinto's suggestion and strongly recommend that Mario, Santosh and the others who want to discuss God to form their own yahoogroup or orkut group. If they want to discuss Religion, they can join secular goa yahoogroup. >> Miguel Braganza << ... i totally agree on this one.. The endless e-marauding on topics like religion and Hitler make me wish Hitler was alive and subscribing to Goanet so he puts an end to the debates. >> Jason Monserrate Do not agree. Seems such an *intolerant* stand. BTW, has the sparring on religion, American politics, Hitler, stopped any one's post from coming through? Lawrence ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Exposure of misconceptions with examples
<< ... It is my belief that NO God fearing person will NEVER commit violence against another ... except in self-defence. ... >> Jose Colaco What about the Abraham's attempt to kill his son Isaac? Lawrence ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Additional *Ganapati Specials* on Konkan Railway
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. See: http://www.konkanrailway.com/website/press_2005/press_more_ganpati_02082006.htm 2nd August, 2006 PRESS RELEASE MORE SPECIAL TRAINS FOR GANPATI FESTIVAL Good news for Ganesh devotees! For the convenience of passengers travelling to Konkan region during the Ganpati festival, it has been decided to run more special trains to clear extra rush of passengers during the ensuing Ganpati Festival. 1) Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus (CSTM)-Madgaon-CSTM (Unreserved) : Train no. 0107 Dn CSTM-Madgaon special train will run ex-CSTM on 23rd August, 25th, 27th, 31st Aug, and on 2nd September, 4th Sept, 6th, & 8th Sept Train no. 0108 Up Madgaon-CSTM special train will run ex-Madgaon on 24th August, 26th, 28th Aug, 1st Sept, and 3rd, 5th , 7th, & 9th Sept The train will halt at Dadar, Thane, Panvel, Roha, Mangaon, Veer, Khed, Chiplun, Savarde, Aravali Rd, Sangmeshwar, Ratnagiri, Adavali, Vilvade, Rajapur Rd, Vaibhavwadi, Nandgaon, Kankavali, Sindhudurg, Kudal, Sawantwadi Rd, Madure, Pernem, Thivim & Karmali. 0107 Dn will leave from CSTM at 2355 hrs and reach Madgaon at 1400 hrs next day. Train no. 0108 Up will leave from Madgaon at 1430 hrs and reach CSTM at 0420 hrs next day. The train will have 17 Coaches – 13 second class Chair Cars, 2 General coaches, and 2 guard cum brake vans. 2) CSTM-Madgaon-CSTM (Reserved special) : Train no. 0105A CSTM-Madgaon special train will run ex-CSTM on 24/08/2006 & 26/08/2006. Train no. 0106A Madgaon-CSTM special train will run ex-Madgaon on 25/08/2006 & 27/08/2006 The train will halt at Dadar, Thane, Panvel, Roha, Mangaon, Veer, Khed, Chiplun, Savarde, Aravali Rd, Sangmeshwar, Ratnagiri, Adavali, Vilvade, Rajapur Rd, Vaibhavwadi, Nandgaon, Kankavali, Sindhudurg, Kudal, Sawantwadi Rd, Madure, Pernem, Thivim & Karmali. 0105A will leave from CSTM at 2355 hrs and reach Madgaon at 1400 hrs next day. Train no.0106A will leave from Madgaon at 1430 hrs and reach CSTM at 0420 hrs next day. The train will have 16 Coaches - 11 second class sleeper coaches, 2 general coaches, one 3-tier AC coach, and 2 guard cum brake vans. 3) Dadar-Madgaon-Dadar (Janshatabdi Special Train) : Train no.2051A will run ex. Dadar(T) on 23/08/2006 and train no.2052A will run ex. Madgaon on 24/08/2006. The train will be run on the path, timings & halts of 2051/2052 Dadar-Madgaon-Dadar Janshatabdi Express. - ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Ghettos of the Mind ...
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. When terror strikes, tolerance takes a hit too. Is the *hatespeak* drowning out the voices of moderation? See: http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VE9JTS8yMDA2LzA3LzMwI0FyMDExMDE=&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom Publication: Times Of India Mumbai Date: 30/07/2006 Section: Special Report Page Number: 11 IDENTITY CRISIS Caught in the middle and nowhere to go Ashwin Ahmad | TNN My parents yoked me to the idea of a secular India before I was even born. My mother, in a stinging refutation of Samuel Huntington's theory, named me Ashwin. ''Ashwin Ahmad,'' she said. ''Rolls off the tongue, doesn't it.'' And so it was. Without having done anything I had been born special. As my father said, ''There may be many Ashwins and many Ahmads, but hardly anyone will have the two together.'' As far as I knew, my father was right. Puffed up like a peacock, I straddled my dual 'religiosity' with pride, along with a few fibs. ''We celebrate Diwali and Eid. Yes, we go to both mandirs and masjids,'' I mentioned to my awestruck friends (though we went to neither). ''You must be very tired then,'' the more perceptive among them observed. At any rate, I revelled in my 'cool' status. Marx, I thought, was right. This stuff was heady opium and I was, as the jingle goes, lovin' it. I soon realised my 'difference' came with its baggage. In Saudi Arabia, we got crank calls — people wanted to know what faith we practised. Did we drink at home? Did we have beef or pork? What 'gods' did we worship? But it didn't matter then. I flattered myself by thinking how important I was. A salaam or a namaste from me could mean victory for either 'side'. These modern-day crusades, I sighed mockingly. But since such queries were so immature, I could never really take offence. My religion, as I delighted in telling anyone who asked, was football. But this fairytale world did not last. As I began working in India in 1997, the Wilde wit, with which I had previously parried off questions about my religious identity, suddenly no longer amusing. Increasingly, I found myself having to become a spokesperson for everything all Muslims did all over India and abroad. ''Why do Muslims always support Pakistan?'' I don't know. ''Why do you people keep four wives but pray five times?'' I don't know, and I don't see the connection. ''Has your mother converted? Most people do in these mixed marriages, you know,'' said an elderly man learnedly. ''No, I don't know! Why don't you phone and ask her,'' was what I wanted to say. But I said nothing. At first, I treated these questions as ignorant and impertinent but something I had to get used to. I followed the example of my hero Superman. He had his kryptonite and I had mine. Of course, then it didn't hurt so much. I didn't connect what was happening in the outside world with my life. This was the India where my parents, my uncle, my father's aunt, had had mixed marriages. Nothing anyone said or did could alter our freedom to do that, and be, just be! But things did change. Perhaps I was at fault. In my naivete, I thought being ''confused'', as one Muslim acquaintance put it, would carry me through. It had for 25 years of my life. I had eaten and drunk, loved and lived with people without bothering who they were. But the world, it seemed, had suddenly become very bothered with who I was, a fact I learnt while house-hunting. Eyeing my faux Calvin Klein shirt and Omega watch, property dealers sprang out of their somnambulistic state, only to recoil when they heard the surname. Nahin ho sakta. Aap wahan Zakir Nagar mein try kijiye. What amazed me was their matter-of-fact attitude. It was as though they were doing a jigsaw puzzle, where all pieces had to be put in their proper place. At first I rebelled. But being James Dean got me nowhere. I didn't want to be a rebel without a home. It took my mother with her bindi and crisp sari to convince my Muslim-hating landlady that wife and I were kosher. So, for the sake of a home, I slipped my cosmopolitan identity under the pillow and listened silently as the landlady harangued about ''terrorists, dirty Muslims, all of whom deserved to be hanged and killed''. I let my wife sign the rent agreement, and ensured the cheques were made out in the name of 'Vishal' — her maiden name. I put no plaque outside the door or the letter-box. If anyone asked, I was Ashwin. The Ashwin had effaced the Ahmad. And
Re: [Goanet] Who would Goans want as Chief Minister ? - Parrikar orPacheco ?
<< ... It looks like Carmo has given no choice apart from the 'dorji' and a ' kansar' aka coppersmith ( metallurgist, IIT not withstanding). If anyone wants my vote, it will be certainly for the good DORJI. : : Between to two, I should feel absolutely comfortable with the DORJI in charge rather than the third rate KANSAR. >> floriano (goasuraj) This is not about *academic* qualifications or *occupation*, but, one's contribution to Goa. My vote is for Manohar Parrikar, who dragged Goa out of it's primordial mire, screaming into the 21st century. Mickey Pacheco? No way. What has he done for Goa? Lawrence - ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Get More Goans into IITs not ITIs !
Carmo, Believe you seem to have missed the point of Alan's story. Lawrence - On 7/26/06, CARMO DCRUZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Alan, > > Thanks for sharing with us your educational experience. It should be a wake > up call for many of our Goan underachievers in school and no one should be > written off as mediocre because there are a number of late bloomers in life. > > However, in this high tech economy, we should encourage and inspire all our > Goan students to aim straight for the top and get into medical schools or > the IITs (Indian Institutes of Technology) and not the ITIs (Industrial > Training Institutes). Its not just a matter of interchanging syllables - > there is a VERY BIG difference ! > > While the IITs train their graduates to be graduate engineers with B.Tech, > M. Tech and PhD degrees, which lead to careers as engineers, scientists, top > level managers, executives, academics, captains of industry (and even Chief > Minister) - The ITI training leads to Diplomas and relatively lower level > technician, and trade jobs in most cases. There are seven IITs at present > with sprawling campuses in Mumbai, Delhi, Chennai, Kanpur, Kharagpur (near > Calcutta), Roorkee and in Guwahati (Assam). ITIs can be found in every > metropolitan area. > > While all our Goan students who aim for the IITs may not get in because of > the stringent IIT Joint Entrance Exams (IIT JEE) at the end of the 12th > standard - If they prepare for the IIT JEE in advance they will atleast be > able to get into the engineering colleges which train their graduates to be > graduate engineers with a BE (Bachelor of Engineering) degree. However for > all Goans, IIT awareness and preparation in Maths and Science should start > from Grade 1. > > We have had many outsanding Goans who have graduated from the IITs - for > example Victor Menezes (former CEO of Citibank), Ashank Desai (Founder/CEO > of Mastek Inc.), former CM Manohar Parrikar and even Fr. Francis D'Mello > (head of the Bombay Jesuit province), just to name a few. > > We should leave all the ITI slots, skills and trades for the non-Goan > students from nearby Karnataka, Maharashtra, and Kerala and encourage our > Goans to get into the IITs and Engineering colleges en masse for the greater > glory of Goa ! > > Best Regards, > > Dr. Carmo D'Cruz, > Goan, IITian - Class of 82, > Indian Harbour Beach, Florida. > > >From: Goanet Reader > >Subject: [Goanet-news] Goanet Reader: Of lemons,bricks and melons: don't > > > >Of lemons, bricks and melons: don't write off anyone as mediocre > > > >Alan Dias > > > >Each of us have in us the ability and capacity to make a > >difference to our own life and to that of others with whom we > >interact in the journey we call life. Surprisingly, I did not > >make much of a difference when I was at St Brittos's, so few > >of the pupils of St Britto's at Mapusa would probably > >remember me. > ___ > Goanet mailing list > Goanet@lists.goanet.org > http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org > -- Google picks Goencar.com for Branded E-mail. Goa lovers around the globe may request their free @goencar.com e-mail addresses by writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following information: * Your full name. * Desired ID (the you in [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Free Goencar.com E-mail (Courtesy Google)
On 7/19/06, Goencar Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: << It's Google Mail with a Goan look. The Internet giant Google has selected Goencar.com and you, dear Goa lover, to test its new branded e-mail service: e-mail from goencar.com, hosted by gmail.com.Goa lovers around the globe may request their free @goencar.com e-mail addresses by writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Don't delay, request your new e-mail address by writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following information: - Your full name. - Desired ID (the you in [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Best wishes,The Goencar.com Team >> Who *runs* Goencar.com? The website has no details of the *owners*. A query to this effect, to the *Administrator* has received no response. Interestingly, the site has links to the blogs listed below. Does anybody, here, know who is behind Goencar.com? Lawrence - Blogs by Goans, of Goa or otherwise. Frederick Noronha: http://goencar.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&task=view&catid=18&id=33 Frederick Noronha commutes to Saligao, Goa, when he's not in Cyberspace. Goan Pao: http://goencar.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&task=view&catid=18&id=32 A blog from "Vindaloo", a Philadelphia-based Internet technie. Ruth DeSouza: http://goencar.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&task=view&catid=18&id=22 Ruth DeSouza's website reflects on Goan culture, migration and more. Helga do Rosario Gomes: http://goencar.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&task=view&catid=18&id=21 Goa's intrepid scientist writes of her travels to Antarctica. Lynn de Souza: http://goencar.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&task=view&catid=18&id=16 Lynn de Souza, media personality and chairperson of the Goa SPCA. Sonia Faleiro: http://goencar.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&task=view&catid=18&id=12 The writings of a Mumbai-based journalist. Martin Barretto: http://goencar.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&task=view&catid=18&id=11 Martin's compilation of poltical and cultural commentary. Other Links: * Resources (6) * General Websites (7) * Goan Business (2) * News Websites (6) - ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] *On-roof luggage* banned for private tourist buses
See: http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VE9JTS8yMDA2LzA3LzI0I0FyMDA3MDI=&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom Publication: Times Of India Mumbai Date: 24/07/2006 Section: Times City Page Number: 7 On-roof luggage banned for private tourist buses Shibu Thomas |TNN Mumbai: In a bid to ensure passenger safety, the Bombay high court last week upheld a ban on goods and luggage being carried on the roofs of private tourist buses entering Maharashtra. A division bench of Justice R P Desai and Justice A P Deshpande agreed with the state government's contention that heavy luggage on the roof changes the vehicle's centre of gravity, posing a direct threat to passengers' lives, especially when the bus is negotiating a turn. The judgment brings to a close a 10-year-battle between the government and a strong cartel of tourist bus operators, who claimed they had a right to carry goods on the roof. Twenty-one tourist bus operators based in Bangalore had moved the Bombay High Court after the Maharashtra Road Transport Authority (RTA) began initiating action against buses in 1995. At the entry points, RTA officials would check such vehicles and fine them Rs 1,500. In court, the operators claimed that as per the permission issued by the Karnataka RTA, they were classified as "heavy public service vehicles'', which allowed them to set up a luggage carrier on the roof of the vehicle to carry goods. The state opposed this plea. "Section 128 of the Central Motor Vehicle Rules prohibits such luggage carriers,'' said assistant government pleader Molina Thakur. "Personal belongings and the luggage of passengers are to be carried in the space provided in the rear of the bus or below the carriage,'' Thakur added. The advocate also said, "The goods on top of the vehicle shift the centre of gravity of the vehicle in the upward direction which is dangerous especially when the bus is navigating a curve or an incline,'' said the state government affidavit. The affidavit further stated, "It may lead to the bus tilting or toppling down.'' The high court has stayed its orders for four weeks to allow the bus operators to appeal against the judgment in the supreme court. - ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Delhi gets shaky on monorail
See http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=134836 The Financial Express Posted online: Saturday, July 22, 2006 at hours IST Delhi gets shaky on monorail NEW DELHI, JULY 21: The Delhi government's proposal of a monorail in time for the Commonwealth Games in 2010 may not see the light of the day. Confirming this, Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) chief E Sreedharan said DMRC felt the monorail would not be feasible for the city. Speaking on the sidelines of a CII conference in the Capital on the Mass Rapid Transit System (MRTS), Sreedharan said the monorail would be unable to deal with the large number of people,who will come for the games. The proposed monorail was to cover 60 kilometre across Delhi and act as a feeder for the metro. At present, DMRC plans to start the east Delhi phase of the metro. It would start a few months before the games. Sreedharan said, "The 2nd phase of the Delhi Metro will have a 60 km connecting line between New Delhi railway station and the new airport. There will be a stoppage at Connaught Place where passengers will have the facility of checking in their luggage. The entire journey will take only about 15 minutes." He added that this too would be started in time for the Commonwealth Games. Regarding the Gurgaon phase of the Metro, Sreedharan said it was still pending with the group of ministers for approval. At the conference, Sreedharan said currently 26 cities in the country were at various stages of implementing the metro rail system at a cost of over Rs 31,000 crore. Other delegates at the conference included Konkan Railways MD KK Gokhale, chairman railway equipment division, CII and managing director, Titagarh Wagons JP Chowdhary and president and CEO of VAE Gmbh, Austria Marc Kaddoura. -- Google picks Goencar.com for Branded E-mail. Goa lovers around the globe may request their free @goencar.com e-mail addresses by writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following information: * Your full name. * Desired ID (the you in [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Railway Ministry *Approves* Konkan Railway Skybus ...
See http://inhome.rediff.com/money/2006/jul/21skybus.htm Govt gives nod for Skybus project July 21, 2006 17:45 IST The Konkan Railway Corporation Ltd has secured the government's approval to go ahead with its dream Skybus project, which had hit a roadblock following a fatal accident during a 2004 test run. "We have been given the clearance by the Railway Ministry to go ahead with the project," a KRCL official said. Questions had been raised about the project's safety after the Skybus collided with a pillar, killing a Konkan Railway employee on September 25, 2004, during a test run at Goa. The Ministry of Urban Development had formed a Technical Advisory Group, which submitted its report last year. The group comprised of government officials and officers from the Konkan Railway. Based on the recommendations of the technical group, the Railway Ministry has given its approval to Konkan Railway to go ahead with its trial runs and make necessary changes for the safety of the project. The trial runs had been discontinued after the accident. Now that the Railway Ministry has given its approval, consultations will begin with Konkan Railway officials to get safety certification for the project, the KRCL official said. "We will have to get safety certification from some authorities and bring about changes in the project," he said. KRCL had spent Rs 50 crore (Rs 500 million) on the project, hoping that Goa would be the first state to use it. But the central government clearance for the project became a hurdle after the accident. Last year, Goa government had derailed the dream project by going in for a new monorail project. Goa Chief Minister Pratapsingh Rane had said that the state had given up on the Skybus project, saying it cannot wait forever for the Skybus technology. The Skybus metro system was developed by Konkan Railway as an answer to the traffic congestions on city roads. Delhi Metro Rail Corporation managing director E Sreedharan also said that the Konkan Railway needs to perfect the Skybus techonology. "Skybus project is yet to be proved by the Konkan Railway," he said. At one point of time, several large and mini metropolitan cities were factoring the sky bus in their urban transportation plans. In August 2001, the then Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee cleared a massive programme to develop the Skybus in eight cities - Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata, Chennai, Ahmedabad, Bangalore, Pune and Hyderabad. Other cities like Goa, Coimbatore and Kochi had also viewed the Skybus with favour. - Hooray !!! (^-^) Lawrence -- Need a *Gmail* e-mail ID? Do write to me. Will send you an invitation to open a *Gmail* e-mail account. :-) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Who's picking your pocket? An official report gives you facts and figures
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 7/15/06, Frederick FN Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: << ... I travel by the KRC and agree it's a convenient mode of transport. But as far as the overspending and environmental costs go, let's not bluff ourselves or hide from the truth. Below is an article which could serve as a useful reminder: http://www.goacom.org/news/getStory.php?ID=862 THE GREAT RAILWAY RIP-OFF By Anthony J. Simoes. >> Trust we will meet one day, on the Konkan Railway, Frederick. :-) Yes, do believe we should not bluff ourselves or hide from the truth. But, you will agree that there is a difference between *exceeding the budget*, and, *overspending*. Have you tried painting your house, Frederick? The last time I did mine, and, it was not the first time I have undertaken the exercise, I *exceeded the budget*. There was no *overspending* as there was no *squeeze* from wily politicians or bureaucrats. Given our political scenario, I will not be surprised if there was *overspending* by the Konkan Railway Corporation. The *Tax Free* bonds issue is one example. I still wonder what the CAG reports say. As for environmental costs, you have my say, in my earlier post: http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet%40lists.goanet.org/msg00743.html For those who came in late, Winston Costa Pereira's reply to A J Simoes' post, as well as A J Simoes' post, are appended below. Now, back to the Skybus... :-) The test track at Madgaon, has conclusively proved that the budget estimates [inclusive of *squeeze*, most surely ;-) ], of the construction cost per kilometre, are realistic, achievable, and have been achieved. The Skybus, I believe, runs on electricity. Most environmental friendly. All said and done, [and I repeat here, from my first post on this subject], http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet%40lists.goanet.org/msg00693.html from the politician's perspective, there is no charm at all in the SkyBus, because with the proposed Monorail: - Crores can be embezzled in importing standard gauge coaches and equipment from abroad. This is not possible in SkyBus which has a large percentage of indigenous technology. - Crores can be embezzled in massive land acquisition at jacked up market rates. This is again not required in SkyBus as existing roads can be used with minimal requirements for compact skystations. - Crores can be embezzled in relocation of tenements. This is also not possible in SkyBus as it will be negligible. - Crores can be embezzled in massive Monorail construction costs. This will be greatly reduced in SkyBus as it is one-fourth the construction cost. - Crores can be embezzled in further expansion/extension of the project. This will not be possible in SkyBus as it is more easily scalable. - Crores can be embezzled in operating deficit on ongoing basis in the name of infrastructure. This is not possible in SkyBus because it is financially viable on its own. (^-^) Lawrence - http://article.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/16775/match=konkan+railway Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:55:28 +0530 (IST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Re 'The great railway rip off' Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org Please publish this article immediately on the Goa Net News web site. I am expressing my strong objection to the article by Mr Fredrick Noronha on the 27th of June 2004. The title of this article was 'the great railway rip off'. The title of my article is 'On the track of glory'. I have been an independent engineer who has studied the Konkan railway route very carefully after the last months accident on the KR route. In fact, I inspected each and every cutting, tunnel and bridge and I have just returned back from my expedition just yesterday. I even had a meeting with the KR officials in Belapur, Navi Mumbai and I have given my suggestion which will also been implemented. All the tunnels and bridges are in perfect shape but only the cutting are the once that are causing the problems in the rainy season. It is highly deplorable on Mr Fredrick Noronha~Rs part to criticize the project. I know that the 2 accidents that have taken place in 2003 and 2004 resp are things that should not have happened in the first place. But no one wants an accident to happen. Just because an accident has happened does not mean that the entire project is faulty. Such an article disgraces our own engineers capabilities and expertise. In fact, In 1998, there were ne
Re: [Goanet] Who's picking your pocket? An official report gives you facts and figures
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- << Hi Lawrence, Are you trying to cash-in on this sentiment to build up a case for the Skybus? If what you say is true, than what prompted our politicians to build the Konkan Railway (a technological 'marvel', but a financial and environmental disaster)? We have a rail-track which can't grow without a further phenomenal investment. So it stays single-track for the most, and is unable to step up trains' frequency to even dream of becoming viable, leave aside all that grandiloquent talk of B-O-T (build-operate-transfer) that was supposed to have happened within ten years time! >> --FN Yes, Frederick, < grin > am laughing all the way to the Bank as do others who respond to posts on Goanet :-) What prompted the building of the Konkan Railway? I believe, were it not for Madhu Dandavate, and, George Fernandes, the cries of the Konkan, for a railway, would *never* have been answered. Incidentally, the Konkan Railway is an *engineering* marvel. The technology has been around for a long, long time. An environmental disaster? As is almost all *human* activity in the *modern* world. The perspective is important. A financial *blackhole*? Are the CAG reports available? If I recall correctly, all opposition to the Konkan Railway, in Goa, fizzled out, after the announcement of the issue of *Tax Free* bonds by the Konkan Railway Corporation. Konkan Railway *bashing* seems to be another sport on Goanet. Akin to a religion with the theme being *See, but, refuse to believe*. The Konkan Railway upset the apple cart of so many vested interests in Goa. Rightly so. The Konkan Railway Corporation seems to have delivered what it promised. A high speed, high frequency railway track. That the track is built to withstand trains travelling at 160 kmph has been proved in the recent trial runs. Believe the responsibility for under utilization of the track lies with the *Railway Minister* and not the Konkan Railway. Now, back to the Skybus... (^-^) Appended below, are items am sure will be of interest to all who wish to know who's picking our pockets. -Lawrence - Rajaram Bojji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 10:55:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Rajaram Bojji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: A serious fraud on the country- those who know keeping quiet are no better than the criminal To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sir, The country is put to loss of thousands of crores while providing less safe trains on bridges in the middle of roads running all along with no gurantee for their not escaping the tracks and jumping on road traffic, while improved railway where this disaster will not take place and that too at affordable cost to the nation is available proven in safety trials, which is Skybus, and ready for commercial implementation, being pre-certified as much as old conventional metro rails. TuV Rheinland Germany, the world renowned safety certifiers are ready to certify the system for public carriage, and have already issued the maturity certificate for the technology. Govt of India , still depending on some of its advisors and to spend on unsustainable metro rail systems, is technically an act of fraud on the nation and its trusting common people. I here by formally submit my complaint that the fraud should be stopped forthwith. Documents I attach as addressed to Cabinet secretary, which have been neglected by the Government- for your necessary action as per the prevailing Penal Code provisions. B. Rajaram M. Tech., FIE., FNAE Indian Railway Service of Engineers (1970-2005) CE(Goa), Dir(Project) & MD Konkan Railway Corporation Ltd.,( 1990-2005) Inventor & Mentor Anti-collision/Skybus Technologies Director / Atri Knowledge Embedded Infrastructure Lab.(P) Ltd.,United House, Public Garden Rd.,Hyderabad 51 India +91 40 55284777 Fax: + 91 9885014092 Cell: +91 988577 www.atrilab.com - Metro Projects are fraud on the nation The Skybus Metro technology is different from known metro rail, monorail etc. Unlike monorail, the Skybus metro is twin rail based as the normal heavy rail system with high speeds of 100kmph and mass transit capacity of even 80,000 passengers trips per hour per day. So Skybus can operate at 8000 to 80,000 pphpd seamlessly, and can be used as both feeder as well as primary high capacity option for urban transport. But then difference between the conventional metro rail and Skybus system is that: normal metro railway cannot be guara
[Goanet] Konkan Railway *Ganapati Specials* - Booking opens on 18 Jul 06
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- See http://www.konkanrailway.com/website/press_2005/press_ganpati_specials_100706.htm 10th July, 2006 PRESS RELEASE GANPATI FESTIVAL SPECIAL TRAINS For the convenience of passengers travelling to Konkan region during the Ganpati festival, it has been decided to run special trains between Dadar and Madgaon via Konkan Railway route w.e.f 23rd Aug, 2006. Dadar– Madgaon – Dadar reserved special trains 0105 Dn special train will run ex-Dadar from 23rd August to 27th August, 2006 and again from 31st August to 10th September, 2006. The train will leave Dadar at 0035 hrs & reach Madgaon at 1500 hrs. The first train from Mumbai will leave from Dadar on midnight of 22nd & 23rd August at 0035 hrs. 0106 Up special train will run ex-Madgaon from 23rd August to 27th August and again from 31st August to 10th September, 2006. The train will leave from Madgaon at 1530 hrs and reach Dadar at 0500 hrs the next day. 0105/0106 special trains will halt at Thane, Panvel, Roha, Mangaon, Veer, Khed, Chiplun, Savarde, Aravali Rd, Sangameshwar, Ratnagiri, Adavali, Vilavade, Rajapur Rd, Vaibhavwadi, Nandgaon, Kankavali, Sindhudurg, Kudal, Sawantwadi Rd, Madure, Pernem, Thivim, and Karmali. The train will have 17 coaches – 10 Second class Sleeper, two AC-III tier, and one AC-II tier coaches. - See http://www.konkanrailway.com/website/press_2005/press_ganpati_specials_14-07-2006.htm 14th July, 2006 PRESS NOTE GANPATI SPECIAL BOOKING TO OPEN ON 18TH JULY The booking for the 0105/0106 Dadar-Madgaon-Dadar Ganpati Special trains announced earlier on Konkan Railway route, will open on 18th July. Konkan Railway has taken all safety precautions on its route for the monsoon and the train services are running on schedule on the route. Hence, passengers should make full use of the special trains being run by Konkan railway for the benefit of people of Konkan. -- Need a *Gmail* e-mail ID? Do write to me. Will send you an invitation to open a *Gmail* e-mail account. :-) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Garbage W.P. 3/2005 - Final Order - Bomaby High Court at Goa.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 7/13/06, Floriano Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ""... this is the true and faithful reproduction of the certified copy of the said Order ... : : This Final Order is highly appreciated as it gives Goa Su-Raj Party to go in Contempt of Court petition if the Director of Municipal Administration does not tighten his belt. "" Well Done, Floriano, Lawrence -- Need a *Gmail* e-mail ID? Do write to me. Will send you an invitation to open a *Gmail* e-mail account. :-) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-news] Who's picking your pocket? An official report gives you facts and figures
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- << In the scheme of governance in India, the Comptroller and Auditor General -- despite its oddly-spelt name -- is a powerful office. It has constitutional protection to point to the flaws in the functioning of those hallowed representatives of the people (and the bureaucrats who know-tow to them). Often, these powers are not adequately used. But, in times when misuse of public office is becoming an increasingly important issue, and as some officials see the need for standing up to stem the rot brought in by corruption, there have been some interesting CAG findings both at the New Delhi and (to a lesser extent) in Goa in recent years. >> Who cares for the CAG? Our political system wants to make crores of money - so what if the public suffers with wrong and obsolete technology decisions? Take the Konkan Railway Skybus, for example. All said and done, from the politician's perspective, there is no charm at all in the SkyBus, because with the proposed Monorail: - Crores can be embezzled in importing standard guage coaches and equipment from abroad. This is not possible in SkyBus which has a large percentage of indigenous technology. - Crores can be embezzled in massive land acquisition at jacked up market rates. This is again not required in SkyBus as existing roads can be used with minimal requirements for compact skystations. - Crores can be embezzled in relocation of tenements. This is also not possible in SkyBus as it will be negligible. - Crores can be embezzled in massive Monorail construction costs. This will be greatly reduced in SkyBus as it is one-fourth the construction cost. - Crores can be embezzled in further expansion/extension of the project. This will not be possible in SkyBus as it is more easily scalable. - Crores can be embezzled in operating deficit on ongoing basis in the name of infrastructure. This is not possible in SkyBus because it is financially viable on its own. ( From: "menath_raj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [sky_bus_metro] Babus and Netas cannot earn mega-kickbacks with SkyBus! Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:17 PM ) - ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Konkan Railway Train Services *Safe* and *On Schedule*
See http://www.konkanrailway.com/website/press_2005/press_nivsar_090706.htm 9thJuly2006 PRESS RELEASE TRAIN SERVICES SAFE AND ON SCHEDULE ON KONKAN RLY Some prominent newspapers in Mumbai have given a headline that train services will be discontinued on Konkan Railway route for 7-8 months for major repair work, Konkan Railway hereby clarifies that this is not correct. Train services on our route are running as per regular schedule. The news carried by the said newspaper is exaggerated and the railway authorities mentioned in the news item, namely Shri Tupe – Regional Railway Manager Ratnagiri - has been misquoted. The reference in the news item is regarding railway track in Nivsar station. There is some settlement in the area due to heavy rains, however it is not that serious to affect safety of trains. Konkan Railway has packed up the affected small stretch with ballast and taken due care to ensure smooth and safe passage of trains. Enough engineering officials and staff are working round the clock to pack up the track on the platform line. As a matter of extra precaution, while this work is going on, all trains are stopped short of this location and taken at walking speed across. Thus there is no danger at all to passengers. Konkan Railway has also called professional geologists to undertake geological investigation of the site based on which further action will be taken to eliminate this problem. Konkan Railway continues to run all scheduled passenger and freight trains and this can be verified by the fact that trains are packed as usual. -- Need a *Gmail* e-mail ID? Do write to me. Will send you an invitation to open a *Gmail* e-mail account. :-) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
