Re: [Goanet] Traditional bone-setters... in Goa
The south has bone setters known as ‘aat katai-pi’ or ‘paio kad-pi’ meaning hand or leg removers. Their talent is determined when they are born (as in how they got out of the …). Am not super clear on this but Joe-UK-Siolim-Arossim may throw mo light. One goes to them as ones leg is twisted (muscle twist or what ever the medical term is). In Concani, knows as ‘piao gonk-lo’. So depending on the circumstance…. you climbing into thy neighbors bedroom window mistakenly thinking the neighbor’s wife invite you for what gwd knows….then your have to get out hastily….in the process twist the leg….whoosh…. The process is you go for three days…always around the same time (mine after sunset). The person basically massages the hurting part either with their hand or leg…..applying oil. Not sure it’s coconut oil….or some other. They sometimes boil bark of odd tree, soak your feet and then massage or do it after, I do not remember….to ease the swelling. After three days, one is fine and free to climb into the neighbours….. Now, not all such folks are talented/gifted. I would suggest asking old-timers/knowledge-keepers. They do not charge but you give what you wish. In my footballing days, I was a frequent customer in my native Navelim….the person used her hand and fixed my leg every time! On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 1:10 AM Frederick Noronha < fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote: > *Traditional bone setters, Goa* Just wanted to know if anyone of you has > had a first-hand experience with the traditional bone-setters in Goa, the > healers who operated out of places like Santa Cruz (Kalapura) and Mapusa, > etc. I know that we might sometimes dismiss such healers as "quacks", but > there is also obviously a lot of traditional knowedge that goes into their > work. Please share your comments, thanks > -- > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > _/ FN * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا +91-9822122436 > _/ See a different Goa here, via > _/ https://youtube.com/c/frederickfnnoronha > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > -- "Explanation Destroys Art."
Re: [Goanet] Love On The Rocks
Interesting story.the bungalow next to the one in question belongs to an acquaintance and will try and dig up on this. Apparently the Rock/lands end has many such stories including that of the cyclist etc. The place was always spooky. The Pandurang On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 2:28 PM Roland Francis wrote: > A short fictional creation by Ruhi Rawail, a film writer who lives in > Bandra. > > 211 TO LAND'S END. > > In the early seventies this incident had taken place at Bandra. A friend > of mine whose aunt had worked the same shift as Sheela Lobo (name changed) > in a 5 star hotel near the Bombay airport, narrated it to me. > > Her shift ended at 11 p.m. Sheela used to work at a 5 star hotel which was > a couple of yards away from the Bombay airport. By the time she reached > Bandra station it would be around 12.30 a.m. Dead of the night for other > towns but not for a city like Bombay. Few others too were around going back > home after a long day maybe. Sheela would then take a bus from just outside > the station to get to Land's End which was where she lived. Her everyday > routine. > > She boarded the no.211 bus. It was empty except for two other persons. > Sheela went to the middle and sat at the window seat on the right of the > bus. The conductor approached her and as usual gave her a ticket for her > ride to the last stop. He smiled at her as she was a regular on his route. > > The bus stopped at Lucky Restaurant. Two people got on. First was > obviously a waiter from the restaurant after finishing his shift. The > conductor pulled the bell string to signal all on board. He pointed the > waiter to the back of the bus, but did not even look at the other passenger > who barely managed to board the bus that had started moving. The man was > expensively dressed did not look the kind who took the bus. He moved inside > and sat on the other side of the aisle to where Sheela sat. She felt a > stare and turned to look at him. Their eyes met, he shifted his gaze and > looked out of the window. > > Sheela was stunned. He was exceedingly handsome, immaculately turned out, > wealth written all over him. What was he doing taking a bus at this time of > the night? She shrugged, put her head back closing her eyes. It had been a > hard shift today. > > She opened her eyes. The bus was passing Bandra Police station she > instinctively felt the handsome guy looking her way, she looked towards > him, but he was not looking at her, he was staring at the police station > beyond her window. Odd, thought Sheela and looked away. The bus turned > right at New Talkies and then a little further left into the Bhaba Hospital > lane. As he was now looking out of the window next to his seat, Sheela > looked at him. She was shocked to see his half turned face, agony writ > large on it, go white as a sheet! while staring at the hospital. > > Sheela looked away thinking it to be none of her business, and shut her > eyes again. > > Now the bus was going past the American Bakery,(the site of Salman Khan's > hit & run some 30 yrs later) then St. Andrews Church, just before turning > right into Bandstand. She stole a glance towards him and was startled to > see he was again staring at her. She quickly looked away. The conductor > walked up the aisle ignoring the man and said to her, "your stop next" and > moved on. > > Except the rich guy all other passengers were gone. > The bus stopped near the Agnelo Ashram, Land's End. The last stop. Sheela > got up to leave. As she was stepping out the conductor who stood aside > said, "be careful it’s quite late". He again ignored the rich guy who was > just behind her also getting off the bus. She gave a half smile to the > conductor, and got off the bus. The rich guy now smiled at her as they both > stood a moment before the bus drove off. > > Looking ahead, though aware of his presence, she started walking up the > hill that led to the Mount Mary Church. He caught up with her and said, " > hi, I am Darius Dastoor I live in this bungalow" he pointed to an old > stately yet decrepit house to his left (this bungalow was next to another > heritage mansion, then owned by a rich Parsi, and today owned by Sharookh > Khan). Most stately properties were owned by wealthy Parsis in the > Bandstand area at that time. Sheela smiled and kept walking on. Darius > continued walking besides her. Sheela looked a bit wary. > > The dark night had cloaked the dimly lit hill climb. Sensing her > trepidation, Darius laughed and said, " please dont get nervous I am only > being neighbourly. It's quite late for a girl to be walking alone." > > Sheela smiled and said, " I work the afternoon shift at a 5 star hotel, > this is my daily time to get back home". > Darius smiled back and said, "Oh! I see. Never mind I shall still walk you > up to your home. Where do you live? Sorry dont know your name". > > By now Sheela was comfortable knowing her friendly neighbour and said, > "Sheela Lobo. I live at Marigold
Re: [Goanet] Re. Carmo Mascarenhas - The Lone Viscount
I am wondering if Carmo came to Mumbai around 1981-82...he performed or tried to perform in Bomoi. Press photographer Thomas Rocha, a govan who lived in Vassai took his picture which was published in the Free Press. Uncle Eugene may remember. My recollection was he had long hair, said he was doing performances in Canada...and was staying somewhere near Dhobitalao during his visit. Silviano, you have any recollections? The Pandu On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 7:53 AM Linken Fernandes wrote: > Hi Francis, > > Great stuff about Carm (to use the form of his name that he preferred). I'm > actually listening to the album, Someday Soon, now as I write this post. > (Thanks for the url: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GJpWgbgfuQ=84s). > Too soon to comment on it, of course, but the first reaction is delight > that he wrote and put together an entire album by himself. Not too many > Goans playing Western music tend toward original compositions, much less > entire collections of them, and in a niche category at that. One waits to > get hold of the lyrics to be able to form an assessment of Carm's > achievement as a song-writer before his tragic, premature demise. In this > album, though, I would have preferred his vocals leading the music, rather > than the accompanying instruments, particularly the sax, dominate, and, at > places, almost drown them out. > To address Roland Francis's observation (in his post earlier) that the > creators of the website seem to have missed the Goan element in > Matharpacady's heritage, one can, perhaps, excuse them as they come from a > later generation, and most of the Goans who lived there, particularly in > and around Club Lane, have now moved away or on. A few of the clubs too > have shut down for good, now that Bombay is no more a transit, or > migration, point for Goans. (This omission will be remedied, a little, in > my novella, now in the works, which uses my birthplace as a locale. There > is a reference, though, to Matharpakadi, and to Byculla, in my book, The > Sun In Her Hair, published a couple of years ago; a notice of its > publication appeared here, in Goanet, at the time). > There are more objective writers, of course, and local historians (Rafique > Baghdadi, for one) who do mention the presence of Goans whenever they > ponder Matharpacady's history. > > Linken Fernandes > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > -- "Explanation Destroys Art."
Re: [Goanet] Dhobi Talao Circle - below ground.
Think the Castle Hotel running is leased out (think)the youngest grand daughter is getting married in a few days. The old man de Souza who owned was always in a suit and so clean (as in dealings), kind and well-mannered. In the old days, he owned a number of eateries around the area. One of the sons used to tell us Goichis then...listen you.I'll marry a Goichi. He did. To get back at the Mangi-lot, we'd chide him on the Mangi sorpatelthe dark greenish stuff floating on the top.yikes... After a few...it didn't make a difference!! We are still friends. On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 5:51 PM, eric pinto ericpin...@yahoo.com wrote: Rolly - Castle Hotel bill of fare now fifty rupees, a tad off the five annas we dropped. The daughter now at the desk. eric.
Re: [Goanet] Surya... taxi-driver from Mapusa
Rao re maaso Joesl. You forgot the style-essential of the taxi-caar of the oldthe Ray-ban aviators (which have now made a fashionable come back). At most of the stands, they had nick-namesfrom near your old office was someone known as 'champion'. He was not sportive nor champion-material.ehe had a temper though. As well, most villages had their own taxi-caar.the late Mario fondly remembered his from Lotolim who faithfully showed up at the airportforget his name. The old chap called him his friend. Since another poster mentioned Simca's...think they were German..the Sal goncar casa in Baina beech had a varied collection...and were proudly displayed. Another dead miner/shipping magnate from the port city ordered a Rolls directly from thereonly to be told he would have to send his chauffeur for training. The patrao declined and cancelled the order. His chauffeur was so proud those days, he never as much as greeted anyone. He is retired now, one sees his going aboutstill proud! Later, the moooney famiyl of Goichi mining got themselves a Rolls, think it was second handbig front lights. Perhaps a ford. They rarely brought it out The old business families each had their specialty brand...Sal goncar was Simca On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:58 AM, joe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rico, Almost on every Monday morning, I had to catch the first taxi leaving from Mapusa to Panjim. Quite often it used to be Suria's Peugeot taxi. It was in the Seventies, and the Peugeot was the best maintained taxi then. Suria too was a well groomed Bardezkar cabbie. Suria was hefty, physically, and his creamed, long black hair was combed straight back. You travelled in style in his taxi, because he opened the door for you and closed it gently himself. He hated passengers who banged the taxi doors. Hence he would prefer to open and close it gently himself. In order to retain his Peugeot in a prim condition, he had even purchased a second-hand Peugeot for spares.I can't remember whether Suria hailed from Bastora or Arpora. It was just around the time when the Ambassadors and Fiats entered the taxi scene in Goa. Most of the taxis were of the shared type and of the imported lot then. From the Mapusa taxi stand, they would travel to virtually every village in Bardez, tightly packed with passengers generally... specially every Friday. Until the Suez trouble, the taxi fare was just about half a rupee from Mapusa to Panjim, per passenger, because petrol would cost just about 95 paise in Mapusa, while it was five paise less in port town Vasco. Check with Domnic, and he will provide you with a detailed low-down on the taxi topic. Cheers. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoron...@gmail.com wrote: Was just wondering if anyone has heard of Surya
Re: [Goanet] Allen de Sa holds dual citizenship: Mickky
That is correct. Those born in Goi before 1961 are all P*rtuguese citizens and once Endia 'invaded' (they were not invited!), Goichis were naturalized Endian citizens (by default). Goa, D D are the only Por*** colonies offering citizenship if not mistakenand there is a reason for thateither the case (now withdrawn) at the UN and something in the Por*** constitution (forget which). On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: It is a little known fact that all Goans born in Goa prior to 19 Dec 1961, are de-facto Portuguese citizens, and their citizenship has not been lost as a result of Indians forcing their citizenship on to Goans. Those Goans, except those who were then in Govt service and forced to revoke their nationality (which is why many of them left Goa, except for Pe. Chico Monteiro), are still passive Portuguese citizens. Allen de Sa was my contemporary at Dhempe's, therefore he would be one of those Goans born prior to 19 Dec 1961, and consequently, still a de-facto Portuguese citizen. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think enrolment in Govt service means a revoking of Portuguese nationality, unless he specifically signed a document to that effect. Gabriel. From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2012 5:25 PM Subject: [Goanet] Allen de Sa holds dual citizenship: Mickky MARGAO: In what appears to be a direct fallout of Thursday's suspension of Verna PI Edwin Colaco, Nuvem MLA Francisco 'Mickky' Pacheco, on Friday, accused South Goa superintend of police Allen de Sa of holding dual citizenship.
Re: [Goanet] Parrikartan: THE GREAT GOAN LAND GRAB
One may have mentioned this in the past: heard this mostly amongst old Hindus both from Goi and Maharashtra. Apparently there is (a) crystal under the ground that attracts and attracted people to this land for the past many centuries. They believe the seven gurus (sat gurus) met here...I think there is a village which bears its name and the alert mind of Victor Rangel-Ribeiro thought of the possible village (but I cannot remember), then dispersed across the sub-continent. One often wonders why so many folks rush and gush about this place when the villages of costal Maharashtra (Devgad comes to mind) are quaint...with beautiful beaches, great food. On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Question is: what is it about Goa that makes it so desirable? Aren't other coastal areas, both eastern and western, not good enough, that the armed forces and other indian govt offices nned to covet tiny Goa? Does this conversely imply that, after all, the Portuguese must have left something good in Goa? Gabriel
Re: [Goanet] Rajdeep says he is Maharashtrian
Incidentally Rajdeep is half-n-half: Goichi father, Maharashtrian mother. His mother is very Mahatashtrian, a prof at St.Xaviers Coll in the old days, where RS graduated as welland a fixture in the canteen!! Being brought up in Mumbai and a hoot as Cuffe Parade, one really is not Goichi or Maha(example, as opposed to Prabadhevi or Bandra...though that may have changed these days). One remembers Mrs.Sardesai spoke Marathi a lot. Cheers. On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Camillo Fernandes camillofernan...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks Eugene for sharing the below post reg. Rajdeep Sardesai. It is totally wrong on the part of Rajeep an eminent person now to claim he is a Maharashtrian now maybe just to gain popularity and acceptance while earlier he claimed he is a Goa. You cant fool all people all the time, One cant be both at the same time though can be an Indian at all times.Camilo Fernandes Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Rajdeep says he is Maharashtrian Nahvind Times Open Letter to Raj Thackeray Published on: September 7, 2012 By Rajdeep Sardesai Dear Raj, Post-script: I have many Bihari friends today, including my driver, an honest God-fearing man from Darbhanga who is driven by a singular desire to ensure his children get the best possible education. He asked me the other day why Raj Thackeray disliked Biharis so much. As a proud Maharashtrian and Indian, frankly, I had no answer. -- If I remember correctly Rajdeep hailed his Goan birth in an interview to Goa Today when the magazine declared him Man of the Year some years ago. The Goa government has instituted an award in his father's name for outstanding sportspersons. It was given recently to a youngster and the award was presented by Rajdeep's mom. I can understand the proud Indian part. Disowning his Goan part is the problem. Eugene Correia
Re: [Goanet] Avocados
In Salcette, there are avocado trees growing and no fruit, while some of them bear fruit sporadically. One hears they require shade and a slightly cooler climate. Mupca market has avocados on sale (southern side where the veggies/flower sellers are if I am not mistaken, the chap brings in exotic veggies); they are the Jamaican (??) variety (very large) and are available in Jan-Feb and they come from the North (Himachal??). On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Mervyn Elsie Maciel mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Fred, My own experience while still at school in Aldona was that avocados didn't do well in our Goa climate. Let me explain - my maternal grandfather(ex Zanzibar) had an avocado plant(at our Moira house) which he had grown, presumably from seed/s he had brought back from Zanzibar. The plant had grown into a huge tree but we rarely saw any fruit on it. He often told us about how delicious this fruit was(I'd never even seen one then!), but it had to be many years later that I enjoyed 'king-size avocados especially at Kisii in Kenya and also at my in-laws in Kitale(Kenya). Maybe there's someone in Goa who can come up with a more positive story? Mervyn(M)
Re: [Goanet] Recent writings on Goanet.
Say Doc, you forgot the barking dogs and the 'booth' who roamed in the dark looking for coconuts for the plucking! In Mazoddem, there was the late Hoop who worked in a oil company in Murmagao and took the late night trainand from the station to his casa in Utorda a lit a 'chooli' for light and every turn through the village, said 'hoop' to scare the 'booth' and anyone else who crossed his path. The village then called him Hoop and he continued his 'chooli'-lit walk home after street lights arrived. One heard him on a couple of occasionsthe dead of night (which was usually 9PM) and unmistakable 'hoop' -quietened down even the noisy insects. The street lights have arrived in the villages but they mysteriously 'not work' when a night plucking (of coconuts) is scheduled!! Zaalach Paai-je of a different kind! On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jose Colaco cola...@gmail.com wrote: Just a quick note from S. Florida - here to attend a function. I have been enjoying the recent posts of Roland Francis and Rose Fernandes. Well written and thought provoking. Well done, Sir and Ma'am. May more such delightful ink flow from your pens. Roland's petromax post was particularly nostalgic. During the pre-electrification days (or should I say, nights), the night bus travels from Margao to Betul would sometimes terminate in Assolna. No idea what the passengers from further down the road would do, but those of us who lived (or were visiting) in Velim just walked the extra mile in the dark. Those were the days of Zhalacch Pahije. The bus drivers and their 'killinders' were protected by their almighty Bhau and the Em Ji Pee. So those of us who wanted to hang out in Margao a little longer, just exercised a wee bit in return. The dark nights were occasionally lit by 3 sources: moonlight, cazulle and the odd petromax. But, the mavalis had not yet discovered south Goa. So, it was safe to walk. Then, came the bulbs, the trucks, the Konkan Railway ..and the rest IN OBITER is history. I wonder, however, if Roland remembers the Alladin Lamp. I understand that some other company has bought over the patent and is manufacturing and marketing these lamps for about $ 300 each. Thanks again jc
Re: [Goanet] Statement of Shri Eduardo Faleiro at his Press briefing on May 22, 2012
Very touching indeed, Senor Faleiro. During the Goa convention held at the Kala Academy (sometime in the 90s), during what appeared to be an open mike session, there is a Goan man who returned to Goa for the first time ever (from Karnataka) and was relating his story, a very interesting and heart-warming story of returning to his mother-land. The audience was silent taking in this simple story of having longed to returned home but having no ties, was rather difficult. Guess what? A rude 'politician' (not you Senor Faleiro) asked him to finish up and snatched the mike away. What an IDIOT this so called 'politician' from Vascu? How could such a person run a Goa Convention when these conventions are about going away and coming back to ones roots, about roots that bind? Everyone talks of Goichis going away to the far corners of the world and how they have settled (even learnt how to play golf, how empty is that!!) in some developed country...stories of people who moved away to neighbouring states for cultural and religious reasons indeed need to be toldand how they keep these bonds active after many years is indeed touching. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Eduardo Faleiro goanet.refor...@bell.net wrote: STATEMENT OF SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO AT HIS PRESS BRIEFING (May 22, 2012) Over the last two months, I along with Adv.Bernard d’Souza visited several villages and towns in the districts of Kolhapur and Belgaum to meet the people of Goan origin settled in those areas. In the 16th and 17th centuries thousands of Goans, both Hindus and Christians, left Goa to escape religious and cultural persecution, epidemics and continuous wars and settled in the neighbouring areas of North Karnataka and South Maharashtra. They speak Marathi or Kannada and also Konkani and visit regularly their temples and churches in Goa. Most of the people who migrated to the neighbouring areas of Maharashtra are called ‘ Bardezkars’ since their ancestors migrated mostly from Bardez. Their surnames in school records and revenue registers appear as ‘ Bardezkar’. The descendants of those settled in Karnataka are called ‘ Konkanes’ because they speak Konkani at home along with Kannada.
Re: [Goanet] Making a dream come true - appeal for high school prom
Good for you and the project you run George! This person came by yesterday, after almost 20 years. This is a story of bad luck that never changed (not an appeal). Got me thinkingthis person had one hellish situation to another. The person is adopted. Three sisters, all without issues adopt three girls. The two are 'settled'. The third one (who we are talking about) who lived with the person who adopted her (she called her mama) lived in the ancestral house where she had rights after marriage, along with the kids of the only brother. The brothers children made life miserable for the aged 'mama' and the adoptedonce even throwing stones on the tiles, on the portion occupied by the two. 'Mama' passed on and the adopted left on her own found a match and married in Salcette. He drove a taxi and lived with his joint family, they had a daughter. The husband's family did not treat new wife well, because she was adopted, but she continued. Their daughter grew, got married to someone and moved out. Our subject's husband then suffered a stroke, was unable to drive his taxi, so his brothers took over his bank account and the taxi (don't ask me why...she is a simple and trusting). Shortly thereafter, taxi driver passed sesy and after the funeral, the family booted the wife (adopted) out of the house (she somehow stayed on for three months after the death). Having no where to go and unable to fight, she finally found a small rental room (hoomp) and stays there...getting the widow's pension of the Goi Gvt. And now the daughters husband too has kicked her out and she has moved into the hoomp with her mother. The daughter has a cleaning job. The hoomp they are presently renting (the family is very kind to them)will shortly be torn down as the family wants to re-build. They'll have to move... The ancestral house of her mama is now being developed into a multi-story building...the adopted asked if she could be given something there...they said no, her mama's name does not appear in the papers!!! (she can fight but says she'd rather not...being an simple honest soul she does not want to fight legally). On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:14 AM, George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks to all the donors who immediately responded to our appeal. Because of your generosity the young Goan girl is now able to go to her high school prom. Many of you have consistently come through with your donations regardless of the type of appeal from Goa Sudharop - for charity, for environmental causes, for orphanages, for medical supplies, for educational projects, for children issues, for seniors, for youth projects, etc. In this particular case, many of the donors were moved by the young girl's situation and the loss of her dad at an early age. Here is what one donor wrote:
[Goanet] Thomas Kinkade, famous painter’s life his mistress Amy Pinto-Walsh, but who is she?
Came across this on the netPinto from Goa or Mangalore? http://fandaily.info/celebrities/amy-pinto-walsh-is-painter-aof-light-thomas-kinkades-mistress-girlfriend/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kinkade
Re: [Goanet] Appeal for assistance to go to prom
Hey Cecil, The person likely wants to rent a gown and accessories. In north am, the prom is a big deal and the dress code can cost. Incidentally, the north am prom also includes pre and post prom parties (not suggesting the person would go to these dos). *clearing my throat*...cha-men, no date to go to the Xaviers prom? True, taking a date to the Xaviers prom by BEST no. 63/61 from Byculla or the Bandra date by no.81, 83, 86 would be...yours truly gate-crashed the senior prom, no date required and that patie-spoiler Fr. E-m-ill spotted and promptly showed the door, only to return via the stage door by the chappel!!!. The Xaviers prom came to life after E-m-ill went to bed after 9!! Think there was a strange rule during that time: the prom was reserved for students of the current year so you were limited to who one could bring as a date. Yikes, the gurls in the lit class wore their eye glasses thick and were yawning by 9. Folks in antro or physiology were lot mo fun- they were cool 'bout taking in quarters of brandy !!! The Xaviers after-party was usually the reddish chai @ Mayrose and if you were cash heavy, the Shamaiana. On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Cecil Pinto cecilpi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear George, I find your appeal intriguing. What exactly are the expenses involved in going to a high school prom that warrants a public appeal such as this? It is frivolous to appeal for such a cause. There are many events that are similar to this 'coming-of-age high school ritual'. Will more such appeals be made for her to participate in all these rituals? Cecil = Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 06:09:35 -0700 (PDT) From: George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com Subject: [Goanet] Appeal for assistance to go to prom Dear all, A young Goan girl whose father tragically died a few years ago and who relies on her mother's income to maintain the family and meet expenses, is appealing for funds to go to her high school prom. This is part of helping a young Goan girl's confidence and coming-of-age high school ritual and providing her an opportunity she cannot afford with a single parent.
Re: [Goanet] Goa, richest in India in per capita terms?
Means not being the sharpest pencils in the box; not much to celebrate there!! Some lo-for on the GoaNet will talk about development. Well, if they had abilities to question, they would have asked a simple question: for fum re (all this wealth, land-grab, bank accounts)? Tied in with RIP Goi. Means grab and loot and loot again, means dumb greed. Mindless greed. Of not being conscious of the environment, of relentless abuse of nature and everything around us. Of lifestyle. Must you ask Sa? Ah, also means making as many pit stops to places of worship, shamelessly. Gotta go, headed to the confessional myself!!! On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoron...@gmail.com wrote: What exactly does this mean?
Re: [Goanet] Pottam borem nam munn...
Ah Tony baab, wait till you get to Kanada. Public toilets are rare (they are plain expensive to operate)...except in shapping-malls...restos do have 'em but for customers only. Must say d/town Toronto is wee better equipped that way.for quick relief do keep an eye for alley-ways, under bridges, over bridges, water fronts etceven seen a guy relive himself next to a parked car at College/Spaidana in broad daylight this summa. Yonge street is a free for all between Bloor to the waterfrontand do mind the gap, you may water our very own loitering goldm'n s*cks of nearly Bay street..*weenk weenk* Ah, Lundon is another storythe 'tin can' at Trafalgar Sq. thought covered (its a pay tai-let), gives a feeling of doing it in the open a-la-migrants in Moira, Candolim, Murmagao etc. A better option there is the Tate Modern but you never know which dead artist could be in the stall next to youFr-cix Bacon, amcho Souza???that won't be a pleasant ya? You could be developing this into a niche tourism thingmaybe a guide book is on the cards...what next, a book deal? **com to Go-a, com to Go-a.. tai-lets are niiice** On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com wrote: In Panjim, when an emergency like JGUK's arises, forget the public conveniences. I wrote to GN about them long ago. Do what Panjim savvy people do. If a friend's residence is not handy or not available, then use the good hotels like the Mandovi or Fidalgo's. In the Patto area go to Central Library. In Porvorim go to Education Department or the Secretariat. Most newly commissioned Government offices outsource the cleaning departments. Then there's always Domino's ..
Re: [Goanet] Mopa - a stake through the heart of Goa
Surprising the voices against this airport are muted. Not one person has spoken against this move. Reading between the lines, it appears a move to reward the elected rep from the area (the big margin win in the elections?...reward to keep the hard core saffron quiet?...me thinks so). One thinks Dabolim is just fine...kick the daf-ience southget a few clear heads to re-organize the present set up (which is truly chaoticit appears like a large gathering of hungry pigs trying to get the the 'dhoan'). Limit the taxi driversthe whole of Goi with their taxi is lining up there. C'mon, this airport lands a 747 from St.Petersburg though one must admit the take off it a wee heavy. Look at it another way, there is the moneyed lot, read mining and Conq-ress.. from Goi had gobbled up a whole district in north of the bordernot sure the move is in sync with the present CM or speculation.take a guess. An acquaintance who went on a visit says its soo cheap and beautiful, one cannot go wrong; the poor chap is beating is beating his chestmissed out on deal coated with sugar and honeyapprox 15 small ones (l) gets you 5 acres...conversion no problem!!! On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote: To Goanet - I see that Manohar Parrikar has gone ahead with Mopa. This is it - he can no longer be counted on as a steward of Goa's well-being. It is as if he wants to complete the task the past Kangress govt left unfinished I will have more to say in my next post shortly. r
Re: [Goanet] Driving in Canada
As the Amerikans...keep the boil-gaadi right. On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com wrote: Query: Do Canadians keep left or do they keep right as the Americans? -- ** Tony de Sa tonydesa at gmail dot com **
Re: [Goanet] Dangerous Ferry Crossing
Right you are Joe Utorda, Goa being Goa and Goans being not the sharpest pencils in the box, they would want a bridge here. Which brings my thinking self to the Aldona incident: say, did anyone think a bridge would avoid that accident? If they were 'thinking' they would have demanded privatization of the bus business, the oldest racket here. Incidentally, are there any updates on the investigation...as to what happened in Aldona? Reason I ask is the newspapers being newspapers (handy for wrapping ripe jackfruit) , they would never follow up on something like this. On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:35 AM, JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: 13th April 2012 Everyday phenomenon there were two ferries today Probably they will think of another bridge here should there be another tragedy here watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIA9G2wsEjU Some pics jumping lady – A risky affair http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk53/6928606664/in/photostream 2 legged and two wheelers - Travelling on the ramp http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk53/7074686633/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk53/7074687151/in/photostream/ Here it is completely full up http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk53/7074687625/in/photostream/ another 2 wheeler just joined http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk53/6928608406/in/photostream/ where is the room for exit or disembark ? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk53/6928608772/in/photostream/ today's video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIA9G2wsEjU As always - copy to City MLA and Chief Minister Parrikar joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Was Matani Goa's Che Guevara?
There was fire p*wer in his eyes, his deep voice and his conviction. He was indeed Goa's first anarchist. The year was 76 or 77the ramponkar's demo was attacked. He took a few blows. The news spread fast. He was the news. Ramonkars were to be noticed. They had a voice. He was the voice. MS inspired thousands of us coming of age in Goa: to love the land, environment, to be just, to be passionate. He was our hero, he was our voice. The ramponkar movement in some ways brought many of us out of the woodwork, to be conscious of social causes, to think of environment, in short to think, to be informed, to develop character as young people, to be confident and better citizens, to do the right thing. Those were the hippie days in Goi.of the peace movement. St. Xaviers Mumbai was buzzzing with activism, with protest movements, young people with conviction. What an all-round education that was! Whats up in Goa today? Can the young look up to anyone? Have they any sauce in their *** to be independent thinkers? Can they even think? *refer to George P's post on activists* One must admit, mukel montri MP is up therebut does any one trust him is the hush question? These are the days of An*nOps, L^zSec, Wikile*** of spring here and theredemand for just/open g*vernments. Our time for spring is long gone (one has to be realistic, even if one has fire in the belly)our situation is unrepairable. Time the run away is now ripe to line up at the passp*rt office...maybe not, just jump a ship. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:05 PM, floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com wrote: Only, this gun on the 'borrowed shoulder' had no bullets. Indeed it was a water-pistol. Cheers floriano --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Ancestry workshop at Bexley Archives for UK Goans
Selma-baai, very interesting. If its no bother (and issues with ownership of the material), may be an idea to post the some details online so as to benefit the community elsewhere. Just a suggestion. Regards On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: Histories of British-Goans Project presents a half-day workshop. Are you of Goan origin? Ever wondered about your grandparents or great-grandparents lives? Now learn from the experts how to trace your ancestry using resources which are available right here in the UK. Clifford Pereira leads a one-day workshop at the Bexley Archives, teaching you how. Admission is free. Please book in advance—only 15 spaces available. Contact: Carvalho_sel@yahoo.comFor more details click here: http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/gvuk_files/Bexley_flyer.pdf Please do let me know quickly as bookings for these workshops tend to fill up fast. Selma Carvalho --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Unintended consequences
Ah-ha. Thank you for bringing the underw*rld up Senor Parrikar. For those Goichis who sleep well... In Goa would be difficult to distinguish the over-world from the underworld; Goichis take easily to crime and the minor m@tke is religion these days. The shop was set up long long time ago..near the airportwaddya think the Green in the port town thrives on..all interlinked, and the Sakarams are clueless. There are so many different branches present in Goi, it would be easier keeping track of five generations of relatives than. To give you an example, the deadly Tam*l lot have a toe-hold here.one has to read in between the lines. Do listening to Misha Glenny on Do-buy as the new capital of *nderworld (old story). During one of his talks one attended, he mentioned Goi as possible the No2 (the centre of the uw of the old days was NYC and Lund-on). Glenny's talks are most fascinating and if you happen to be in a city where he is talking, don't miss. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esRT1QdlW0w http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misha_Glenny Ah, before I go, this will help you sleep better...love the swimsuits no? http://www.flickr.com/photos/limbic/3640887760/in/photostream/ Glenny has a slide show with his talk on how it all started in the Eastern block (post communism) and the picture becomes clear on rusky presence in North Goa, and why they are here to stay. Do sleep well! On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote: To Goanet - The problem with making Goa a hub for casinos and gaming is that it will attract the worst and most criminal elements to it. (If it hasn't already - why is Mr Mody walking around with gun-toting bodyguards?) We are playing with fire. The Indian underworld has most likely already set up shop. r --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Goa : Jewel In India's Crown
Saw this on the u-tube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Q84VX8qGMfeature=player_embedded This is the blurb on Goa Why Goa? Over the past few years, Goa has attracted the eyes of many people looking to avoid the high costs of the Western world. And for most people, the thought of living in one of the most popular tourist destintions in the world is too good to resist. If you think you are one of those, AmarPre can help you realize your dream… Goa : Jewel In India's Crown Goa is one of the most popular travel destinations, known the world over for its picturesque beauty, sun-drenched beaches, colonial Portuguese heritage, mouth-watering cuisine and friendly people. It is easily the preferred destination in India, with everything from film festivals to music concerts to adventure sports as regular features. What a lot of people don't know is that away from the hustle and bustle of city life is a place where you can relax and forget about all your troubles. The peace and calm will surely appeal to you, if you're looking for a place to live, or simply as an investment. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Matanhy Saldana RIP
Shocking news, the one voice of change is passed on. Very sad to see one of the few thinking politicians. Long live the father of protest in Goi!! --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Can i now apply for Aadhar card?
Yes you can. There are registration centres all over, so ask locally. You need proof, like PAN card, ration card, proof of address (utility bill) etc. Please take copies of these (as Endians, they tell you after you reach the front of the queue that copies are required). Ah, do wash your hands: they take all kinds of impressions of various hand-parts and your eyes (iris), try not to wink! Very important: you have to ask when the card will be sent to you...depending on where you will be in the next month (it take a month-n-half). The scheme works like this: after you complete the formalities, they give you a receipt, You have to provide the receipt when the card arrives at your address. They will not send it to a different address. The card will only be handed over to the person whose picture matches (your photograph is on the receipt). A general question to the janta on GoaNet: on the Idar card application, information sharing consent field. On the receipt, 'information sharing consent' is ticked as YES. I asked the dude at the centre...he said the field cannot be removed. Since the company collecting the info is some private enterprise.this should be a privacy issue no? On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Michelle Fernandes mich...@yahoo.com wrote: Can someone please let me know if i can now apply for an Aadhar card. I am an NRI visiting Goa for a few days from tomorrow and i have my ration Card Voters id card too. I am from North Goa and i would like to know where they accept the forms- so please either email me or call me tomorrow on 7798632039. Thanks in advance, Michelle Fernandes --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Looks like Parrikar making me redundant..
What to tell you Joe-Utorda-baab. Even the garbage collection in the city of rot was on war footing this week. Sam-ke A-to-Z cleaning, supervisor and all. In all these years, one has never seen a Murm-gao Mooncipal garbage supervisor on a site. Tell me something, don't you miss the old ways, the days of corruption? Feel pangs of nostalgia; life is boring now. They will be back, trust me. Here a note, there a note, everywhere a note-note. Just like that. Crooked ways are hard to rid off, you see. And money makes the world go round. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:02 PM, JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Looks like Parrikar making me redundant. I was really looking forward to it though as I was fed up with the job.. On my weekly stroll on Promenade, I was looking for some regular subjects for my camera. I was surprised to see none. Little further, I saw a loaded Police jeep (the usual dial100) with vagabonds, beggars, mad (pagal) etc. Infact, from a distant, I saw two were picked up from the benches. The jeep load proceeded straight to Town Police Station. This was around 5.45pm today What am I going to do now ham? This is what I mean http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=sleeping+joegoauk ‘New broom sweeps well?’ Only time will tell! whatever it is, things are looking good cc to Parrikar --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] How the votes were split
Say asking about the bride's background after the honeymoon are we? Chu* does comes from a 'good' family background. He was never educated which is why he joined the merchant navy. People attribute it to the his father who was a small-time football referee and a simple, nice man. The people of Salcette are particular about backgrounds, by the way. C***hill was indeed the trawler-owner's assoc. boss and hung around the Vascu clock (tower).trawler business in the 70s-80s did not do very well- you know bangda went @ Re 10-for-three, five in Bogmollo. He wasn't doing particularly well from what one remembers. He likely lucked out in the trawler biz when he came handy as a l*nding agent for a certain Goichi who is not allowed in the state. The rest is history/destiny/what ever you want to call it. This I must say for him: he used his earnings from the merchant navy and invested in a trawler way back then. So he was ambitious. The trawler owners are dominated by the fishfolk community (this is not nice to say) but anyone who owns a trawler can contest and the unwritten rule in the south is you have to be Goichi to own a trawler, no exceptions. Ofcourse, you gotta know the difference between a peto-shi, sheo-teo and bang-do. If you have missed the press conference y'tday, do watch...(being played by local teevee stations). Hilarious..sounded like a true squealing p*gor the Chaplinesque figure called Eric Campbell (picture below)...the bit about the cameras, laptops and chips almost makes him sound like a tragedy king. http://silentladies.com/OSG31/Campbell03.jpg He can have his chips and eat it too now ya!!! On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote: I had heard that he was named after Yuri Gagarin. Today's OHeraldo says Churchill was a humble fisherman. I once wrote that Churchill was president of the trawlers owners association and a friend of the family said I had insulted him by saying he belonged to the kharvi community. Though this person did not know the difference between the two is altogether a different matter. He said Churchill belonged to the Chardo class. Even on goanet I think I read once that he belongs to the fisherfolk class. I know for sure Churchill was a seamen, among other things. Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] The heights of sycophancy
Same with the Fatorda stadium (should really be named after Monte Cruz) and the Vascu stadium should be named after some legends of Goan football who brought joy and excitement to the folks of the days gone byor maybe Benao, the unsung hero from the commentary box. Today, we pay a buck to watch some sub-standard local, deshi and Afrikan imports? There is no joy in the game!! The politician or the mathematician whose name dons the stadium.wot do they know of football? Pardon me for repeatinghad we celebrated our own heroes, we may not have gotten to this sorry state. On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: To Goanet - 30 crores of butter - http://www.newslaundry.com/2012/02/30-crores-of-butter/ PS: Every single school, college, institution, whatever, in Goa named after Nehru, Indira Gandhi her spawn should be stripped of their names. Can you imagine receiving a degree from a Rajiv Gandhi University, named after a drop-out brat, whose family has stolen untold wealth from Indians? (Even Mahatma Gandhi's name on roads etc should be taken down, but for an entirely different reason. Hint: for the same reason that the gold idol of Manguesh at Mangueshi is a travesty of what Shiva represents.) r --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] COMMUNITY AUDIO: Ugtem Molob... Just Matata @ Benaulim ... The Lea RR Tribute Concert...
Don Fred, on a sound recording notefolks all over are now adding sound to maps online, called sound mapping. Example, the poder ponk-ponk that passes from the front of your house...or the call of the chooris-pau sellers as you near the Axi market.or the noisy na^al planes (really noisy) if you happen to live in Bogmolloand if you are in a generous mood, the chatter of baazar aunties at Longuinhos, Margao. Some of the sounds recorded can work as a historical archive; the lazy Goichi bus cleaners with their Ponji-Ponji call will likely disappear very soon. http://users.ubtanet.com/dinosaurlandrcd/lessonPlans.html 2012/2/27 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com: UGTEM MOLOB, a Konkani (and Other) Poets' Meet in Goa Recorded on Saturday, February 25, 2012 at the Tristao Braganca Cunha Hall, during the monthly (last Saturday) session of Ugtem Molob (Open Skies), a multilingual poets' meet in Panjim. Featured here are the readings of Ramesh Ghadi (in Konkani on the manipulations of politicians in current elections), Shakuntala Bharne (on love and politics), Lakshman Pitre (Marathi, ghazals, etc), Karan Khandeparkar, Bharat Naik (the spirit behind Ugtem Molob), Sheetal Salgaonkar (five tiny verses), Norman Colaco (Konkani and Marathi), Damodar Malik (Konkani and Marathi), Avdhut Kamat (on politics, and the drunk), Sunil Palkar, Smita Vernekar, Puja Kavlekar (Marathi and Konkani), B.S.Gadekar, Adv Harihar Gaitonde (English), Ashok Bonsulo, Khandekar, Shobha Fulkar, John Aguiar. The moderator is Neel Khandekar. Recording mainly in Konkani. http://www.archive.org/details/UgtemMolobAKonkaniPoetsMeetInGoa Or http://bit.ly/UgtemMolob --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] 1330126454.53583.yahoomailclas...@web171404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com
Yes indeed. All the khell-tiatre gig's had to put up the first act at the casa of the Regidor. Majorda had twothe later one was from a house or family/house called pakiem padre (feathered priest- go figure eh?).not sure how they acquired the nameapparently they were lawyers from some generations. The regidor from the house went by the name of Ermin and they performed in his balcony..am told he never watched the performances. Their house is towards the beech, along the path from across from the Musson football groundpast Zuze-Caitan's posoro. There were performers who came from the neighbouring village and one waited with great anticipation for the sound of the 'dh-ol caxh', which announced a performance (under the mango tree in the Musson pit). One long forgotten character who taught some of the performers (practice sessions are called 'essai') is Leopold. Leopold Irmao lived just off the Musson..a victim of polio, he was a violinist and a creative soul. He spent his life (after the death of his mother) to drink and a few creative pursuits, including conducting essai'z in his small balcao. He passed on, fairly young.his face and his deep set sad eyes and his singing voice are ever-present in the village. One owes a lot to the khell-tiare in particular and life in the Salcette villages in general. The love of the language, the land, the appreciation of the way of life and the stories. Sadly, that is all gone.at the Musson football ground bus-stop, one hears Indi mo often thanand the sound of the wada-pau walli gong about her business! On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Mariano Pereira mariano.pere...@gmx.net wrote: 'Carnaval Khell' of yester years by Joegoauk reminds me of the yesteryear most famous Khell Tiatrist ' Xempeam Miguel'. I wish someone familiar could write a story about him. By the way it was a compulsory exercise to perform the first episode of the 3 plays at the regidor's house before its performed on the open grounds in the village. This, Xempeam Miguel had to learn hard way when in 1959 he ignored this practice in Majorda. He had to interrupt the play when the Regidor found out and repeat the play at the regidor's house after a slap in the face. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP
Senor Parrikar, the quote from your post, Issues for the upcoming election, is reproduced below. What is playing out around the port-town and the ele*tion related violence the last two days (I did not see any mention in the papers, except a local tv station) is not comforting. Your post is s relevant and missed the ten rupiya commentators in the media. Good lard, while another commentator equated football with the katlick vote (foo cares for the katlick vote?), its the migrants, migrants, the migrants that matter. They descend somewhere between 4-7K a day from the trainscome take a luk...and football is just a ball to be kicked!!! Has any party or Goan politician offered Goans any platform to deal with the migrants swamping Goa? Is there a single Goan politician with the courage to tell Delhi that we will not be jerked around any more? In other words, is there anyone who is sticking up for Goa and Goans any more? I guess not. So why is this election of any interest at all? Goans should just accept that Goa is now a squalid Indian ghati land and melt away. I can tell you one thing: if Goa were 75% muslim in 1961, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Because in 2000, that percentage would have increased to 99% muslim (by the magic wand known as ethnic cleaning - ask the Kashmiri pandits for details), and the Comrades lead by Susan Arundhati Roy would be defecating in foreign publications about India's oppression of Goa. Dilli babus, being the cowards that they are, wouldn't have dared to walk the streets of Panjim in broad daylight in that case. - As for speaking ones mind of the gNet...the general drift of what is posted is best summed up in the exchanged 'books, videotapes, lies' imaginary org*es in the mind! If I were the book-seller caught in the tangle of someones junk (read paranoia), I would never look another Goichi in the face (and my life be richer). The majority of overseas Goans cannot hold a meaningful conversation unless they are sufficiently loaded-up, no one would argue! Ofcourse, if you were to ask me why one is still loitering around.??its Concani and a few gentle folk who have something to say. Imagine the poster who pictured my brain; if the dude had any grey matter, its likely lodged behind the fly of his pants! Which begs the question: if some of these folks didn't luck out in some overseas post, what do you think they would be doing with their un-enterprising selves in Goi? Massaging some meaty tourist's legs on the beach strip, no? Cheers. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote: To Goanet - Pandu-bab, Which quote of mine are you referring to? As you surely know, I have more than a few quotes on the subject. You see, there was Goa, this tiny dot on the Indian map. And they couldn't leave it untouched. They had to come in and muck it up and bring the blight of Bihar, UP, Orissa, Delhi, etc etc with them. The coarseness of the Dilliwallah and the paan-spit-sh*t culture of the bhaiyya. ldn't be bothered. By the way, Pandu-bab, speak your mind freely without all those disclaimers about you not being against this or that group. The fellows who climb the high moral horse and sermonize would like nothing better than shutting you up through guilt or embarrassment. Most Goans privately complain about what is happening to Goa but are reluctant to go on the record. (No longer related to the discussion: The correct spelling is 'Matanhy' not Mathany.) r --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Thank You...
The Quebec wild ginseng was in circulation around the 1700'dreds, all the work of Catholic priests. The reason it was sought after in the East (HongKong is the primary market) is its shape.the roots were thick, which the Orientals believe it brings lucky and importantly, the 'wild' variety is potent. The moratorium was imposed since the wild ginseng was hunted (like truffles)..to the point of disappearing from the forests. The cultivated variety comes from Southern Ontario. With the tobacco crop no longer in demand, ginseng came to the rescue. Not much is known publicly since the trade is very secretive. Incidentally, dried ginseng (the southern Ontario variety) is available at the St.Lawrence market, T*ronto (weekends in the summer when the farmers from the south bring their produce). Reasonably priced some time ago. Dried ginseng is used in stews etc. Too bad in the daily grind of making a buck, folks who migrate rarely have the time to explore local foods (old foods), their natural medicines etc, Or maybe they do. Some of the monasteries in Quebec over the years have developed and specialized food products whose recipes are worked on for tens of years, ranging from cheese to cakes. With the church on the wane, they are disappearingthe fruit cake from the Oka monastery was sold from a church basement on Park Ave. Mtl (in the Mcgill ghetto) but the sign is gone, wish I'd popped in then... Cheers. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Dan Driscoll law...@dataone.in wrote: . . .for very interesting note, about cold remedy and much more. I had known that Quebec Province grows very good export quality ginseng, and had wondered if there is export to China. Did not know ab't the 'wild'; thought it was all cultivated. My favorite Tamil Proverb: He who has killed a hundred men, is fit to be a doctor. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP -the greening of Goa
Dea Ms. Carvalho, we seem to be the only ones to notice. Well, liberal is good when communities understand and respect the definition of 'freedom'. Unfortunately, the 'new green' is very oppressive and freedom, is a word they never heard of. Or rather, the freedom is to do as they please in a land so blessed by nature, to over run your culture, to drive one in the corner till you can live and breath no mo. There is the lot that organizes the Vascu marathon (aai-hai, the lovely Gul Pang running tru Bina gets the back of my little brain fluttering) have this slogan...'beautifying Vascu'. Do these f*cks ever get out of their air conditioned cars or wot? This city is diseaseimagine, the first planned city on free fall!! Yes indeed, having lived here way before the P*rtuguese leftone has recently changed the lock on the front door. The front door has never been locked and there was a time when foxes and wild cats roamed the hill (and often raided the hen house)! The other Mrs. Carvalho may not have known but the area below Alto Brito (now known as Bina road) had families from Afgin*stan and a clan of pathans (one of them played for the fammed Vascu club)...and their festivities, their food are fresh in ones memory. They considered themselves local, they spoke Concani, they were part of the community. There was a welcome and openness in the way they went about their daily lives. Ones parents would be mortified if they heard one speaks a word against the 'green'. But this is a different lot, a lot that has no rules, not a sense of community, a culture of wrecking. Its the new 'green'. Something like the ghettos of Birmingham or for that matter, Rexdale in Toronto. Its 'we are here' so deal with the rut, our violence, on our terms, play by our rules. One remembers quotes from the clever Dr. Jack Straw, a former UK minister who famously refused to treat patients with their head covered and told the newcomers in publicyou are in the UK, deal with our culture or... We don't have a politician with a little sause ** ***lls to say this!! Different times, troubling times and everyone is fighting for a ticket, to make a quick buck. Then what? On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: Pandu lampioa wrote: The 'greening' of Goa has reached a point of no return and what you said in your post is right there for all to see. Nothing against any community but a mass influx is unhealthy. Dear Pandu, If it comes as a surprise that fairly liberal people like you and me, turn violently conservative and anti-migrant, it is because we have to live in that hell-hole, wholesale brothel otherwise known as Vascu. By the time you reach St Andrews Church the last vestige of its former glory standing against the onslaught of mindless insanity, those of us who grew up in Salcete, fall on us knees and pray to St. Andrews that such a horrific plague of destruction never visits Salcete. Alas, Margao is already beset with a similar plague. If anyone wants a look into Goa's future, I advise them like Pandu says, to take a bus to Vascu and stare it squarely into its face. Incidentally, I don't see any hope for the slumification of Goa being reversed. That door was sealed the day Goa became part of India. We can only hope now that someone will make a film of Goa's slums 50 years from now and we'll have Goans writing paeans in the New Yorker telling us how wonderful and productive life actually is in a slum like Goa-Darawi. If there is one thing Indians are extraordinarily good at it is slummifying every city, town or living area they set foot in. For proof, visit cities in London which are Indian strongholds. Best, selma --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Dan Driscoll on colds
Hey there, actually, what works for one usually does not for the other. A constant cold is a worry and I suspect it is linked to pollution (or the naughty neighbouring g*ssipy *? *wink wink*). Or mould. Saw a small clip out of an old home remedies book on flickr but unable to find it.I think its more temp relief: (from memory) it said, boil water, w/salt, annis seed/annis oil and 5 drops of iodine. Inhale. Quick relief. One has grown not to trust the medicl practiti*ners ever so ready with their prescriptions (here and in particular, kanada). Mind you, there are the old world d*ctors who 'cared' they are increasingly hard to come by. Ah, since you mentioned you were returning back to the kanadato keep healthy, stay away from the super-market milk, milk products (unless organic), bread/wheat products, meats The Fud inspection agency there has utter disregard for the health of its citizenry (my view) and the stats speak for themselves. *mind you, some numb-nut will write back challenging this, but never mind*. Forget the stats for a minute.look around (in kanada) and the old herbalists are now back in business and its the belief of alternative communities that there is after all cures in nature. Please note, when and if you visit a herbalist, do buy herbs that are kanadian grown...not imported. The imports are nuk%d, which the poets and dreamers think have lost their curative properties. Herbs are a slow and long term curative effects and a welcome alternative is oils. The growing mid-eastern communities in kanada have brought with them merchants who sells oils that are used as food, cosmetic and medical/preventive use. Did you know that the only place clean (no pesticide) regular olive oil comes from Morocco or Algeria? Did you know what the second largest export after fur from Kanada in the old days was?...likely still iswild ginseng...had a moratorium till recently on its harvesting. The kanadian Quebec wild variety is sought afterfor good luck, good health etc. On a side notethere is an Indian doktor Shah (not sure he is a nature cure or the garden variety-alopath) who passed away in Goa (a few years ago). The late Drs Dr. Shah's message was that modern meds don't cure...rather provide relief (or something to that effect). They said that once ones body ingests over-the-counter variety meds, ones body is (to use a Concani term) 'bostolem'. Contaminated or gone bad. Since Newfoundland is a province over, they have a long tradition of herbal cures and a lovely book festival...and the most interesting writers in inglish!! Ah, forget about health and the dirt of Goi, there is a Goichi doktor and his French wife who make a very sought after blue-berry wine right outside Halifaxin demand across @ fine dining places in NYC! Injoy. On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM, DAN DRISCOLL driscoll@gmail.com wrote: Thanks; I have 'jungle honey' on the shelf; will do it! On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Bernice Pereira bernicepere...@yahoo.comwrote: I suffered from persistent colds for years with - as you describe - that yucky mucus(y) feeling in the throat and constant well-meaning instructions by all and sundry No chilled drinks, no icecreams etc etc. Some months ago I was visiting my son in Dubai and his domestic help saw my condition and gave me the following remedy for which I will thank her for the rest of my days. Squeeze one lemon in three-fourths cup of warm water, add a tablespoon of honey and a pinch of salt, stir well and drink on waking up in the morning on an empty stomach. Breakfast may follow in half an hour. I never suffered from a cold again and also, it energises me for the rest of the day. Diabetics need to consult their doctors due to the honey content. Bernice Pereira --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP -the greening of Goa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Straw True, I stand corrected. Mixed up the players; different devil, similar tail. Head gear: its the days of an*nymous, loose-sec. Never be seen, just heard. http://anonops.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:04 PM, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: Pandu Lampiao pan...@gmail.com wrote: One remembers quotes from the clever Dr. Jack Straw, a former UK minister who famously refused to treat patients with their head covered KHOMMENT: 1: I was about to ask IF there is a difference between a woman who covered her head and a Goanet poster who covered his name (or is it Pseudonym) but I will not ask. 2: However, I must ask: Fhu is this Doktor Istraw that Pandu is talking about? From the little I know, the only Straw in the UK Cabinet (thus far) is a lawyer. And while, in Goa, lawyers are also addressed as 'Dotor', that does not make them qualified to treat (or not) patients. jc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP
Am still trying to find your quote Senor Parrikar on the 'green'
community' as it is very pertinent in the current election
'discussion'. Kindly do share. Maybe it will sink in the second-time
around.
My observation is one cannot give an accurate account on life in Goa
amidst free-flowing garbage if you wake up with the tavern-owners and
tiatrists (these f*ks who still sing of sobit amchi Gova). None of
these {are they blind?) have woken in time to take a bus ride from
Titan (majority on this g-net would not know where that is) to Vascu.
The bus ride would be a real eye-opener for a change and if you hear a
word of your beloved Concani (while on the bus), you should faint.
Really, f*k the drama. Ones heart bleeds when you see some unknowing
Goichi getting on the bus and trying to converse in Concani, they know
no other language! And one reads on the g-net about the conviction of
some retarded f*cks wants to save Goa ya? Huh?
The 'greening' of Goa has reached a point of no return and what you
said in your post is right there for all to see. Nothing against any
community but a mass influx is unhealthy. Starting with the minarets
of Titan (their plans or have already acquired the land stretching
from Titan to that cop-a factory). Then there is the slum, which has
slowly turning green, as a vote bank for a certain 'politician'. That
is were the m*drasa is and if you pass by on any weekend, the cement
and paint is still wet, thank you election time.
Note for the real-estte inv^stors: going price for a casa-in-the
slum, 1500k + rupiya!!!
Then on to the port town.which brings the ambiance of M*hammed
A^li road (in Mumbai)if you ever opened your eyes to goings on in
'green gettos', everything contrary to what any civil society would
want, from crime, to little bands of crooks. One could go on but why
bother.
Last week, a 'green' festival march/parade in Vascu gave an accuracate
estimate to locals how the demographic has changed and is changing. If
you heard the demands on local tvee last night, they want 4 reserved
seatsthe gao of Murm, Santa Cruz-Chimbel, Ponda and Fatorda (they
already have). Earlier, 'they' wanted Navelim. Am a little in shock
hearing that. But thats is the way it isto invade, multiply and
wreck...or is it hatching, matching and dispatching?
To clarify again,this is not against any religious groups nor do I
belong to a religious group.
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
To Goanet -
Pandu Lampiao wrote:
What none of the commentators in the wrapping newspapers nor the
GoaNet have mentioned is the 'green' lot (the ones who descended from
Hubli and multiplied in Goi). Our very own GoaNet Parrikar's post a
few weeks ago alludes to their world view
Pandu-bab,
Some years ago, Admin Noronha had claimed (as always, without any basis)
that my opposition to ghatis was based on my dislike of muslims, since in his
view, the majority of ghatis were muslims. That absurd claim of FN was soon
shown to be garbage for it soon became clear that I didn't give a rat's ass
what
religion the ghatis subscribe to.
By the way, I realized that a couple of my photo galleries from the past are
still online. Savour the ghatification (or 'cosmopolitanism', according to
'digital humanitarian' Amitav Ghosh) -
http://www.parrikar.org/images/ghatification
http://www.parrikar.org/images/goa-ghatis
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Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP
Ah, elementary dea Carmen. Once you drink PWD tap water (muck and all), Goichi politics, crime and grime become clear. From the B*P stand point, all the Katlick candidates they had in the past did not have a profile, were limp or impotent if you will. Come to think of it, bad orators don't get votes. So they chanced on Mathanywhat better profile to get the Katlick votes. In my view, this could back fire but the little bird tells me the church (which has always supported him in the past) has now quietly come to his aid. They are asking their congregation to vote for the 'right' candidate *wink wink*. On the other hand, if you look at the demographic of his electoral seat, he has the migrants and should give a f^k for the st**pid katlick vote (some illiterate will reply with how dare you). Katlick votes can be bought with a few crisp notes and now, how lo is that ya? If Mathany went independent, some hairy katlick lot might have voted for him (if they had good bowel movements on election day). He is equally a street-smart man. The second coup for the B*P is the seamen. Nice job for that particular leader to assure them (a few days ago) he would fight for the pensions etc. None of the useless dumb katlick p*liticians (its the wrong word, they are really good-for-nothing layabouts out for a quick buck, self-gratification and who knows what the f*k runs through their minds)...ever bothered with the seamen. Now the B*P could have Chinchanim, Chandor, Curtorim, Dramapur, Navelim, Cuncolim, Velim. Say, shrewd thinking to get the katlick heartland. This could back fire but without venturing this route, there is nothing gained. What none of the commentators in the wrapping newspapers nor the GoaNet have mentioned is the 'green' lot (the ones who descended from Hubli and multiplied in Goi). Our very own GoaNet Parrikar's post a few weeks ago alludes to their world view (I cannot find the post). You should sleep well, last weekend in the dust of the election tamsha, they quietly renovated the Madr*sa on the Cansaulim-Zuari road. *wink wink*. They were demanding three reserved seats (shockingly Navelim) for the community. Huh? Ah, my local fisherwoman looks like she fell off a fashion catwalk prancing around with clean fresh B*P cap!! On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Carmen Miranda carmitamira...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand the political games in Goa, but I am puzzled as to why is it that Mathany with his credentials, activism, experience, know how and popularity in Curtorim could not stand as an ethical independent ? Why join BJP or Congress or anybody? What is it that a national party can do in this particular case, that this particular candidate could not do all by himself to win in Curtorim? Carmen --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mum's Kitchen, Master Chef, Godinho’s, Ritz Classic, Seetalaya etc
Nicely said Joe-Utorda why visit expensive resturants...). After all, one may have to sleep with the owners to get a fukot Cream of Brule. You must check out the Uudpi join at the Vascu bus station. Maasala Dosa nice. I think its that time of year to do a list of all the under Re.20-25. My fav is Cafe Corner in the Mupca market for the baaji,sheera, boji and atmosphere. In Margao, the chaai at the original Jackris is No pattis for me, am vegetarian. On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:30 AM, JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Mums Kitchen, Master Chef, Godinho’s, Ritz Classic, Seetalaya etc The ongoing discussion on Mum’s Kitchen prompted me to come out with this.. Master Chef (new) Parekh Building, near Municipal Garden – see pic I knew it was an a/c Restaurant but my friends invited me to this restaurant. I did warn them but they said it can’t be that expensive as they saw a little board outside saying ‘fish curry rice Rs.70 only’ Our’s was the dinner time. After going through the menu (and price list) they order just one Squids Chilly Fry, then we order some port wine Vinicola (thought this might the cheapest) 3+1 glasses of 120ml each We then ordered Papad or papadum 4 pcs Assuming 2 plates of Mixed fried rice would be enough for 3, we ordered 2. Then, half Tandoori Chicken followed by a bottle of mineral water. Guess the bill now.. It’s Rs.1027 (Squids 165, Papad 28, Tandoori half 140, Mixed Frd/Rice 350, water bot 24 wine 320) On top, the qnty of fried rice was not much or 2 is not even enough for hungry 2. KF Beer rate was Rs.90. It’s on first floor, a/c with good and clean seating with leather sofas etc. Master Chef http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4092616540/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4091853195/ Ritz Classics Many of you will remember I wrote about this back in 2007 and again 2008 – see pics Here, our favourite was Fish Platter costing then Rs.300 – see pic Often we went here just for this platter, no drinks (may be just sweet lime, beer here was 80 then) no other food. One day, two of us, like a hungry horse came here for our fish platter. We both suspected something is not tasting too good within the platter. We ate only about 60%. Some hours later, i got a call from Agxi saying he has some stomach problem.. I responded, guess where I am right now. (me in my Miramr loo, used to live here then) as same thing with me. Reminded me of my mother, she always said 'if in doubt, never eat anything just leave it'. No fish platter since them. Ritz classic is more famous for Fish curry Rice (see pic) particularly during lunch time. Ritz rs.70 (2008) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_fishcurryrice/2432314116/ Fish Platto (2008) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_fishcurryrice/2431499317/ Ritz (2007) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk8/427942511/ Godinho’s Restaurant (opp. National Cinema) One of the Oldest which also serve meat products. Last November, we been there We ordered 1 Chkn Fried Rice 100 1 Chicken noodles 100 Water bot 15 Papad 15 And some hot drink stuff Rs.330 for 2 was the bill Godinho’s (April 2008) Prawns Curry Rice http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_fishcurryrice/2369973846/ Pork Chilli Fry (April 2008) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk13/2369994938/ Seetalaya Next to Cafe Bhosle, 1stfoor. Boiled Fish curry Rice 70 – pic rpt Prawn masala fry 160 Papad 10 90ml Honey bee dry 25 (some one told me it’s good for cold) Bill 265 for 1 rpt http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukfishcurryrice2/6481009941/in/photostream/ Mum’s kitchen, Miramar – See pic Well, I have never been to this restaurant or I have been to this restaurant just one only to check the menu (and prices). It was in late 2008. Average there I spotted around Rs.250 per item. Knowingly, I do not visit expensive Restaurants. Me ek Garib manus ahe!. This restaurant is frequented by top people including govt. officers whose cars (with red beacon) often seen parked on the road infront, along with many others. I think This restaurant has no parking facility, so cars seen parked in front DB Road. Panjim Traffic cell must be making good money on their regular haftas from the restaurant owners located on that stretch of road up to Miramar beach and including PanAsian Bowl. I ahve plenty pics at flickr on this. here is one http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/4343150978/ Mum’s kitchen http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_fishcurryrice/2924453873/ at Inox coutyard http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_fishcurryrice/3270068308/ Extra: Mapusa Paachganga, KTC fist floor sungttam http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukfishcurryrice2/6490759797/in/photostream Korbott curry http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukfishcurryrice2/6490757811/in/photostream/ Btw, any one been to down the Road (Rue de Ourem.Old Patto
Re: [Goanet] Mysterious Arrows.
Hey Tony, where are the arrows? Are they painted on the road? Is it paint or chuna? Are they only in Moira? Which directions do they point? Are they at any particular intervals? I have not seen any in the South and now that you mention, will keep a look out for them.They are likely mischief. Just a reminder as well, in the very old days, this home land of our was a place of spirituality, healing and a meeting point for the seven gurus. Apparently there is crystal under the ground that makes it special (before some f*k fresh out of a bar hit me with some wild response, I clarify this is what I've heard...and believe to some degree). Not sure you are aware but a few days ago, someone working here mentioned 'bhukamp' or earthquake had hit UP. I checked the news and earthquake maps. Nothing. So I asked. He said they were expecting one and his family were all scared. Apparently they were told not to get out of their houses (in Eastern UP, where they speak Bhojpuri) or the person would/could turn to mud or stone (??). As you know, mysteries abound in Goa place and we often forget these things now a days with all the noise about money, greed, real-estate etc. Back in the days when these distractions were away from our psyche, the old barber Manu-maam would relate stories...stories of cosmic events (that only he saw). In other cases, the maar community would relate events of the devil appearing in the wee hours of the morning. In one case, it was said a family of devils were looking for mangoes under the musrat trees. Well, I could go on but these days, there is the strange case of crop circles in the UK http://www.google.co.in/search?client=safarirls=enq=crop+circles+2011oe=UTF-8redir_esc=um=1ie=UTF-8hl=entbm=ischsource=ogsa=Ntab=wiei=k3MQT4y0D4e0rAe4pOmWAgbiw=1216bih=639sei=mXMQT-uEGZC3rAeb1oSTAg If you look up the Telegraph newspaper's web site, there are some interesting articles. There is also the case of some strange light in the sky sightings of late (see videos below). Now, lest someone call me paranoid, I won't link the 2012 thing except to say folks who are spiritual (naw, not the fu-fu ones)...say there is a change upon us. Some say a dimensional (not sure this is the right word) change, others say our regular source of light may not be around (this is the year of major solar storms). Who knows. Interesting times. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dx9ipDzIoA Sleep well. On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com wrote: While taking my customary evening walk in the village some days back, I happened to notice some white arrows painted on the road. I thought no more about it till I once again started rambling around on my trusted Activa scooter. These arrows have surfaced in Bastora, Soccorro, Salvador du Mundo, and Pilerne. Possibly they exist in other villages too. I am intrigued by the sudden appearance of these arrows. I tried to figure out if there was a pattern to the placement of these arrows but drew a blank. If only those arrows could talk! Dear Arrows, what's the secret you're keeping? Are you giving directions to a location? What location? A restaurant? A house of ill fame? The route to a treasure trove? A gambling den? A booze joint? A matka den? A lover's directions to a secret rendezvous? Or a thieves lair? What could you be? I am piqued, vexed, puzzled, mystified and plain bugged because I do not know where these arrows lead. As a former graphologist (which plainly means handwriting expert) I feel the arrows are done by the same hand. Reason - the arrows are curved in the same way in each case and the arrow head is put in the same careless way. So if the arrows are drawn by the same miscreant, they take on a more sinister aspect. Is this just a bit of vandalism designed to make me sleep less every night? The mysterious arrows, I can't get my mind off them. Can anyone who knows the secret of the mysterious arrows please enlighten me or at least offer me a plausible theory? -- ** Tony de Sa tonydesa at gmail dot com ** --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Beware! Fake Currency notes..
Aaaare, wot to htell you me-n. Foreign-return aunty coming to Goanow running into dilemma. The Kanadian bank gave her big notes in the new plastic currency. The Axi road-side money changer only heard of plastic to wrap fish and sausages re. Shee-sa. Dilemma. Ofcourse, the paranoi-Aunty scared to go official money exchange. What to do re. Naaka re saaiba. Fo wants plastic money. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Bosco D bos...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: J. Colaco jc While most of our transactions are plastic - all cash transactions go through the UV light check. RESPONSE: Perhaps soon all transaction will be plastic.literally!! Canada is following Australia and Mexico in introducing currency notes made of a plastic polymer. Not only do these notes include newer security features, they are also difficult to tear and laundry-friendly too. The only two things in common with the older notes - they are worth the same and can be spent just as easily. Check out the video: http://www.bankofcanada.ca/banknotes/bank-note-series/polymer/ - B --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] ...butterly, utterly......Eugene
Aye Eugene, Sylvester is a half Goichi, like Dom M no? Both from the katlic community of Byculla; half-n-halfone of their parents were East Indian (as in Mumbai EI). If one remembers correctly, Sylvester wrote about the old days in Byculla, the homes etc for one of the Mumbai afternoon papers (and I think mentioned his background). He did speak a few lines of Concani. It was 'cool' in 80s ad business of Mumbai to zip to Goi for a quickie of 'drinks and fish-curry' and talk about it for rest of the year!! The Book-list some time ago had a few posts mentioning Dom being Goichi! Naai-re, positively half-n-half (Dom's mother is EI). Minor matter though. Now stepping back a bit about written and spoken Ingleesh in Goilate ole Dom was a master in that department..one guards the dusty copy of Answered by Flutes. And a small note on de Miranda: he never missed a Caplin re-runs at the New Excelsior Cinema (Mumbai VT). He stood out as the few elderly folks amongst the college students slipping out of the afternoon showsalways explaining how he adored Chaplin films and he never tires of watching them over-n-over! Eugene:Dear JoeGoaUK, It is not correct that Mario was behind the Utterly Butterly Delicious Amul ad. It was created by DaCunha Associates, headed by Sylvester Da Cunha, a Goan who is an icon in India's advertising world. The Amul girl was created by Eustace Fernandes. I am not sure if he is Goan. He died last year, at age 75. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Name-calling 'worst form of bullying'
Song on bullying.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvRXbRP2QDQ On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com wrote: Name-calling 'worst form of bullying' *Name-calling is more devastating for children's self-confidence than physical bullying, a study suggests.* Dr Stephen Joseph, a psychologist at Warwick University, found verbal abuse had a large and ongoing impact on children's self-esteem. The study, which assessed 331 pupils in England, found 40% had been bullied at some time. It also revealed one-third of bullied children suffered significant levels of post-traumatic stress. Dr Joseph said: This study shows bullying, and particularly name-calling, can be degrading for adolescents. *Depression* Post-traumatic stress is an anxiety disorder that can develop after exposure to a frightening event or ordeal in which physical harm occurred or was threatened. Research clearly suggests that it can be caused by bullying. It is important that peer victimisation is taken seriously as symptoms such as insomnia, anxiety and depression are common among victims and have a negative impact on psychological health. The research paper examines the levels of post-traumatic stress experienced and the impact of bullying on the self-worth on victims. A victim scale was devised to assess the experience of physical victimisation, verbal victimisation, social manipulation and attacks on property. All types of bullying resulted in lower self-esteem, but social manipulation, such as excluding the victim from taking part in games, was more likely to lead to post-traumatic stress. Verbal taunts typically led to lower self-worth. The study also suggests verbal bullying or social manipulation can lead to victims feeling helpless and lacking control over their own feelings and actions. Those who felt that power and control lay with the bully, rather than internally, were much more likely to suffer from post-traumatic stress or lower self-worth. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/education/2952537.stm Published: 2003/04/16 14:38:49 GMT --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Imports to and Exports from Goa (by Rose Fernandes)
Most interesting Rose. You forgot to mention Kenya butter.it came in a rich yellow and green tins (like kraft cheese) and am sure you had a couple of them in your caxao. The butter tasted creamy, rich yellow colour ( I guess with age?) and salty, creamy and heavenly perhaps cause there was no electricity in Goan villages, therefore melted and fluffy when the tin was cut open. Do tell us more. Wonder who made it (apparently some Breetish company) and why it tasted the way it did. It was great on pau and creamy milky ch-aa fresh from village cows. Aye, on one of the gudao raids, one discovered black current jam made in the UKdark, mysterious, full body, fruitywith a touch of bitter. If I am not mistaken, its available in Mumbai/Delli but for some reason, it does not taste the same. http://www.flickr.com/photos/buttonmooon/4301687402/ On a side note, one has never been Kenya nor am I over 50 ( 21 going on 22 next year)...I discovered these goodies when raiding unsuspecting foreign-return relatives food storages (gudao). Lot mo interesting this than the mind-numbing 'stating obvious' posts and endless typing of no consequence on the gNet lately!! Cheers. On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Melvyn Fernandes mel...@orange.net wrote: Dear fellow goanet readers In the summer, seeing photographs of our NRI officials arriving for the Global Goan Convention and Goan Festival in London, United Kingdom with huge trunks on trolleys took me back to the days when I was a child and travelled with my family from Mombasa, Kenya to Goa for our once every four years trip back to our homeland. Today, the biggest import to Goa is still chocolates and the biggest export from Goa? Well, let's see if all of you all can guess. Like chocolates, it starts with C and brings a smile to the face of whoever is at the receiving end? Rose Fernandes Thornton Heath, Surrey, United Kingdom 27 November 2011 --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Foo will titch our chillren English?
--- Goanet Classifieds --- Enescil, a Brazilian engineering firm requires Engineers, Architects and Draftsmen, proficient in AutoCAD, for their new office in Goa Those interested can email enescil@gmail.com by 15 November 2011 Selected candidates will be sent to Brazil for 2 months training --- For a moment Selma-baai, I thought you had taken up to posting in swhi-li or some exotic tongue! One just looses it to read 'above mentioned' on the front page of the he Katlick death-announcements rag. I'll leave Inspector Eugene (Happy birthday BTW- I knocked two rounds of Bognollo well water with my eyes closed. Viva-re.) to dissect some of their errors: you have the patience to read, reply and take the comments from the GNet loose canons on your chin. Good for you for being civil, seriously. But the standard of Ingleesh in Goa...never mind, what standard. I sat behind two dolled-up old bats on the Ponji-Margao shuttle a few hours ago. Pure verbal multi-*rgasmic sound bites, grammatically speaking. If you only heard the 'shall we call them cream of Goan society' (they were dressed like that only noo, two helpings of 'pa-o' and all) discuss their neighbours, price of fish, the smelly gaatis..and the padre's bad breadth. Phew. Now, I am confused as ever on rules of gramma, the past tense. There is no future tense in lowly baazar gossip ya. The book-list has a discussion on an idea for a reading room to inculcate the reading habit (I am guessing in Ponji). Wot? You want the future taxi-drivers, goondas, scoundrels, matk*-dealers and assorted arrogant low-life to read (in Ingleesh)? For what? You'd do Goichi society a favor by holding workshops on 'bulling for fun' or better still, 'how to win at matk*'. Someone tell me (do spare the tiresome formula answers) will the reading room benefit all? Or they can just rot in the ideally of Cancona. What would it cost a kid from Sanguem to get to Panjim to read? Or is it for the arrogant, over-fed Ponji-Porvorim-Dona Pola kids, the future of the book-buying business. This idea, like the Bee-shops house land dealings is smelly!! What happened to the central library..nice reading room, badly kept books.I know there are some who use it for research and good for you. One goes in there thinking some pale ghost may slip out of the stacked 100- year old newspapers. Ask the counter for any book and you get 'why the hell do you want to read a buk' re, expression. Really. I once went there to read a book from the 'special' reference section. Some bawli (staff) sat across and stared me the whole time. Was it my peroxide'ed hair? Hmmm I wonder. Getting back to printed Ingleesh, one wishes there were a few readable books that came out of the Goa publishing circus...I have not read yours Selma; tried to snatch one from an unsuspecting old man on a bus once, but he woke up just then. Seriously, there is a huge gap between lit and the printed word in Goa no? Whose to tell. This is a fools paradise-state in a free fall. Ah, do mind the gap! On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: --- Goanet Classifieds --- Enescil, a Brazilian engineering firm requires Engineers, Architects and Draftsmen, proficient in AutoCAD, for their new office in Goa Those interested can email enescil@gmail.com by 15 November 2011 Selected candidates will be sent to Brazil for 2 months training --- In recent months the standard of Goa's leading English daily has fallen so drastically, I am hard-pressed to find a single sentence which isn't grammatically incorrect or a transliteration. The staff of this newspaper -as shown in a recent photograph - are predominantly Goan Catholics, as is their readership. Goan Catholics, especially from Salcete, are the most impoverished speakers of the English language. If you come from a village in Salcete, you are likely to have a terribly deficient vocabulary and grasp of grammar. In fact, the spoken English is not English at all but a transliteration of Konkani into some words stitched together in English. The reasons for this are many; the most pertinent one being they insist on speaking English at home, an affectation which they quaintly refer to as speaking English in the house, quickly followed by another affectation, that of being unable to speak in Konkani -except of course to their Bihari maids. Sadly they learn English from their aging grandparents
Re: [Goanet] Title of Song - Nolasco Dias
Edward, Last evening, some of us were talking of doctors from the old days in the Betalbatim- Majorda-Cansaulim area and someone mentioned the Dias doctors from Betalbatim. The chat started with Dr. Barbosa (his months mind was on Saturday) and talk veered to the old days when the only doctor apparently was someone from Majorda. Then someone remembered the two Dias doctors (cousins) from BetalbatimNolasco's father and the other was mio great-grand pop. Nolasco's father went on to live some years but my great grand-father passed on as the result of a plague that hit the area (apparently treating patients with plague). I never met the late Nolasco nor did I like his songs (too Tom Johnes, I adore William de Curtorim)but never dare mention this to Concani lovers who are very fond of his lyrics and his style of singing! Am trying to find out details about Nolasco, what his life was like (more curiosity); apparently he was an oddity in that one rarely heard a baatkar sing popular songs. On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Attarco attarco...@gmail.com wrote: While searching Nolasco Dias on net, I came across below post of Eugene. I am not sure if Eugene was able to get the answer But I have just located the song Moipass which is found in LP record 'Rico Rod Party' through Nolasco Dias son Schubert. The lyrics of the song are posted on my blog http://edskantaram.blogspot.com/search/label/Songs%20of%20Nolasco The song is available on Humma website for purchase and LP available on ebay for $74/-. Nolasco Dias was the famous singer on AIR, who composed and sang many Konkani songs. He wrote and staged the Konkani operata in Bombay called Amoriche Ghantteo (Bells of the Angelus)but was not successful and ran into huge loss, as he had to spend on costumes etc. Some of his hit songs are 'Konkani Bhashechem Dennem' by Nolasco Gemma B. Fernandes from LP 'Teach Me Konkani' and Moipass by Nolasco Jeanette, Goenche Kunnbi a folk song with Nolasco n group, n Dorji with Rico Rod from LP Rico Rod Party. These songs were very popular on Akashawani those days and even now. The Music for these albums was provided by M.Alphonso. There was also another album or song titled 'Buddi ka bal'which is not traceable. Nolasco also produced a Konkani cassette titled 'Rosary' which is also not traceable. Born 26th Dec 1926 from Ranvaddo, Betalbatim, Nolasco is Son of Dr. Leo Bossuet Dias (surgeon) and Pulqueria Godinho e Dias a Portugese Professor. Nolasco ex Indian Navy passed away on 27th Dec 2004. Copy to TAG - Victor de Sa/Tomazin Cardoz - Please remember to add Nolasco Dias in Dec month Programme 'Somplelea tiatristacho Ugddas Remembering Tiatr Artistes of Yester Years. Dev borem Korum Edward Verdes Quote: [Goanet] title of song Eugene Correia gene_correia at yahoo.com Wed May 28 02:01:04 PDT 2008 I would like to ask goanetters if they remember the title to a song by Nolasco Dias. It has lyrics like... disan dis tum disti poddta maka sompnanin And the chorus have lyrics... Deva lagim ami maguim. It is an all-time favourite played on All-India Radio, Goa. eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Law educated true Goans
Irmao Iggy, I think the general idea is that Goans have fair education on paper and for the statistic, they are able to read and write (including signing forged documents etc)but I think the posters are talking about education in general. One agrees with them and if you take a look around in Goa as well as in Lundon, Turonto etc, I mean really.we are fairly ***. How many Goichis do you know who have entered a museum, as an example? Seriously. Mind you, on a cheap tour of Paree, a lot may have walked into the Louvre but as a recent tour-returning Goichis said, 'nothing to see me-n'. Interestingly, some potugeeze cultural institution conducted a just-concluded architectural preservation workshop (or something on the lines) and one participant I chatted with was surprised about conserving old buildings, houses, religious institutions etc. He said no one informed us that old buildings could be conserved-restored through legislation (or something on those lines). As usual, one froze, shocked. This person is a graduate, zero on cultural education, as an example. Come to think of it, Goa may not be in this dire mess had there been the 'other' education, the real education that lets you think, with a broad perspective. Gotta run, late for my m%tka class! On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Ignatius Fernandes igg...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: --- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Dear Mr. Britto, I do know where you are coming from, we Goans are supposed to be the most literate people on the sub-continent. We have a Goan descent minister in the British Government in fact two a brother and sister. We also have a half Goan who is the mayor of Lisbon whilst we have a Gujarati as the mayor of Panjim. Amongst all these people all over the world we must have a Goan who would take our case to the United Nations to fight over our just cause. I wonder if Leo Lawrence the author of Nehru Seizes Goa is still alive in Portugal? I think he would have been the ideal candidate to take up the cause, since he lived through the invasion. Regards Ignatius Fernandes. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] A Konkani speaking Kuwaiti
--- Goanet Classifieds --- Enescil, a Brazilian engineering firm requires Engineers, Architects and Draftsmen, proficient in AutoCAD, for their new office in Goa Those interested can email enescil@gmail.com by 15 November 2011 Selected candidates will be sent to Brazil for 2 months training --- Hey there, Interesting story of the Razzak family. There is a family from Cuncolim who struck gold in the old days in Kuwait and I heard some of the Kuwaitis were attached to the folks they worked with, so they may have come and set up home. Wondering if Razzak is the builder from Ponji? There are all the old hippis who spoke some Concani along the beach belt including the famed bird-watcher from Anjuna. They speak Concani with all the nuancesfor example, the bird-watcher a few friends were sitting in his balcony.an old woman passed and said, 'ye peecha, keso-assai re.. to which he replied 'ye, peechi... The friends wanted to know what was being said and were taken aback. One had to explain this was a fond greeting here! The migrants speak the language fluently Xaxti style, you won't know the person was born out of state. The migrants have adapted so well after the Concani agitation and a certain percentage at tiatres are now migrants audiences. There was a strange incident on a Kadhamba bus a year and half ago: a young man, dressed filmi-style entered the bus, sat on the first seat. The conductor approached him and asked him in Hindi, 'kidar The young chap was so infuriated, he walked off the bus...demanding service in Concani first. The conductor looked shocked, saying, '..gati kon-te kodo-na...' On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:06 AM, PAES bennetp...@yahoo.com wrote: --- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- A Konkani speaking Kuwaiti It was at a photo-copying shop in Kuwait many years ago. A Kuwaiti man and I were standing side by side, when we ought to have stood one behind the other, for a turn to get our construction drawings copied. After the client before us was done with, the Kuwaiti, as all of them think is their prerogative, went ahead of me to the machine. I let him hear my displeasure, mildly though, and the man quickly turned back and apologised: “Borem re baba, tum zalear tum voch”. First of all, how did a Kuwaiti come to speak in my mother tongue so spontaneously , and secondly, how did he guess I was a Goan? Having been overwhelmed by such a gesture, not only did I give him the privilege due a Kuwaiti, but even got to know him better. He was a member of one of the oldest families of Kuwait, the “AbdulRazzak’s”, who had made Goa his second home for several years, but gave up just when the Portuguese did, to join the family business back home. His uncle, incidentally, was a sponsor of the “Indian School” in Kuwait. As for the second part, the Kuwaiti in question, as indeed most of them in those times, could easily distinguish a ‘farangi’ Indian from a ‘Hindi’. I only became aware of this as time went by, and that was perhaps one of the reasons how, my chance encounter with a Konkani speaking Kuwaiti drew us closer to each other, along with his Aligarh University graduate uncle, Khalid. Bennet Paes --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] DR.BARBOSA's Cansaulim
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Aye Doktor, the sign that you see by the rail tracks is Casa Barbosa (not the place he retired to). As the train leaves Cansaulim station towards Sancolethere is a thick growth of young coconut saplings in the front of the house (with the sign)...which is his main casa. I guess the sign was put up so folks could go see him (since its does not have easy access with the rail line in the front). Barbosas clinic is at the Cansaulim rail station where he owned some of the buildings I think (behind the panchayat). The house next to that incidentally is that of Mathany Saldanha. If I am not mistaken, they contested an election against each other? (not sure). Quelim (where he retired, see Joe-Utorda's picture) is at the foot of the the beautiful hill (atop lies the chapel where the feast of the Three Kings is celebrated in January). The hill (in the picture) apparently is rich with medicinal plants and has a escape tunnel to get from the top to the bottom of the hill (now closed). Fred's book publishing circus released their most interesting book so far (in my view) on the village of Quelim-Velsao by an engineer (his name escapes me). Fascinating, the village and its history. its stories, the legends etc. One story that may give you a sleepless night or three is on the evening of the feast day of the 3 Kings, there takes place a procession of the dead from the days gone by...so everyone is cleared off the hill (usually cleared by 4, 5 O'clock). One story is a curious priest dared stay to 'investigate'; apparently nothing was heard of him...am not sure of the details but this is told by some village old timers. Pictures of the hill and the area where he retired http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4639183181/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoart/63790519/in/photostream On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com wrote: As a footnote, may I add that on a train trip from Mumbai to Vasco, I came across a sign board by the rail tracks stating Home of Dr. Luis Proto Barbosa, Ex- Chief Minister of Goa Could this have been at Cuellim? I am not too sure of the Geography of Salcette.* **Tony de Sa * * tonydesa at gmail dot com *
Re: [Goanet] DR.BARBOSA's Cansaulim
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- No re. I do not do the Bardez-car/Xasti-car thing though I must say our Concani is song, sweet and joy! Yes indeed. The area/hill has lovely changing views and one can see on clear days in Feb-March-April...all the way down to Betul. It has history behind it too and the saffron lot would love to jump on this. The tunnel was likely pre-Potuguese and was an escape route for the worshipping Goans (before the porkitos laid their eyes our our lovely land, I am sure we were simple folk who were not infected by the disease called religion). At the bottom of the tunnel or rather a crawl-hole sits a Indu village. I must mention, the folks who live there are gentle and its there one senses our common past (the author I think mentioned about this village). On the side the Docktor spent his last days on the farm lies a kundbi village. One can imagine, some of them are still rooted to the old ways, their wisdom, unquestionable. A further down facing East is the house of Chuna-Braganza (I may have gotten this wrong)a freedom fighter. *see pictures* If you look north (from top of the hill) one sees the poison of the fertelizer factory and the copper smelters or the devil knows what. On the hill are plants that cure just about everything and the area is guarded by the locals. And when the feast is done and the band has packed up and the dead who come back annually have done their thing.its a great spot to take a bawli for a view of the sin-set or is it sun-rise? A couple of bawlis from Vascu were in shock when they went there with some defence dudessomeone wandering around rang the chapel bell when they were at it (late one evening). The villagers came running up... The scenery indeed is beautiful. I climb on the fest day (being in the chooris-pau business, transport up the hill can be a challenge). Little be know (one may have mentioned this earlier), there is an understanding that under the land-mass of Goa as we know it lies a crystal formation. In the old days, the 7 wise men met in Goa (maybe there is a village and Victor R-R had a hunch about the name). Apparently, this is the reason Goa attracts so many visitors (naw, not the beeches nor the churches), even Meek Jager. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoart/63794151/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoart/63794150/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoart/63790524/in/photostream/ trust you do not mind sharing this with the g-net lot** Thanks very much for that very interesting tit bit. Now that you have mentioned the Cansaulim chapel of the Three Kings, I would like to mention that the chapel has the most beautiful view of the entire Salcette coastline right from the coves off Vasco to the mists of Mobor. Please do feel free to correct me if I have got the places wrong and put it down to a Bardezkar's ignorance of all things Xaxti. Though I've not been there in quite a while, whenever I have been asked to show visiting relatives from abroad around Goa, I have never failed to take them to Cansaulim. Some years back before the railway line came, it gave me a great sense of pride to show the visitors the coconut tree studded land below them and the beautiful coastline. I have some rather interesting pictures of the Cansaulim feast with the three kings in full regalia. One thing however always marred my visits to the chapel was the presence of broken beer and alcohol bottles on the road leading up to the hill. I have been up there right from the time it was a mere dirt track, chugging along on my trusty Lamberetta to the time when it was tarred and my transportation was a little better. Even then the bottles were always there. No doubt the work of antisocial elements. How could these vandals destroy the pristine beauty of the place? -- Tony de Sa tonydesa at gmail dot com
Re: [Goanet] DR.BARBOSA's Cansaulim
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Say Sa, you the clown who scares little children and lipsticked aunties or the ring masta? Ay, my geography teacher wore a mini (I yam serious...don't get me wrong, it was the 70s)..phew. It was mo topography than... Ayseee meu curacao! 2011/10/12 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com: --- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- On 12 October 2011 15:39, Pandu Lampiao pan...@gmail.com wrote: Fred's book publishing circus released their most interesting book so far (in my view) on the village of Quelim-Velsao by an engineer (his name escapes me). Fascinating, the village and its history. its stories, the legends etc. Circus, indeed! I too feel like am on some merry-go-round listening to what you guys have to say :-) You're probably referring to Dr Themistocles D'Silva's book Beyond The Beach [http://bit.ly/nxlBTA] Incidentally, it's not about Quelim-Velsao, but rather about nearby Arossim. I guess Pandu Velsao has reasons to like it more than anything else, also on grounds of geography :-) FN
Re: [Goanet] Many Happy Returns!
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Orosacho porob,Senor Joe-Utorda and Senor Bosco! If you guys are free, we can meet for a celebratory 'cutu' at Utorda-Modaar *hic*. On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Francis Rodrigues fcarodrig...@hotmail.com wrote: --- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- To two stalwarts of Goan cyberspace - Bosco D'Mello JoeGoaUK Many Happy Returns! FR
Re: [Goanet] Dr. Luis Proto Barbosa
Aye Joe-Utorda, Was his patient mostly in the month of April-May. Thankfully, he never pulled out his 'in-jesao'. If I remember, most of his diagnosis were nothing is wrong or a temp illness!! He was a doctor whose talk made one feel better. He loved to talk. Though he did prescribe those terrible liquid medicines.which one got from the Farmacie past Majorda rail station! Aye. Though I must confess, what worked was likely 'cus-ment' made of od-osha panna (a plant with small white flowers)! On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:07 AM, JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Dr. Luis Proto Barbosa He had his consoltor (dispensary still exists) just before Cansaulim Market, opp Old Post office Or closer to the new panchayat or PHC. Of late, he spent his years at Adollem (near spring, down Birla road, Cuelim) where he had his farmyard. I have last seen Dr. Barbosa at a funeral at Velsao church in 2008. See pics As we know, Dr. Barbosa was an MLA, Minister, Chief Minister and pro-tem speaker. Don panam, Gai-padduk, hat etc Dr. Barbosa has two daughters, one son (also a doctor Margao dispensary behind Grace Church) and regular church goer wife. RIP Dr. Luis Proto Barbosa (1929-2011) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2879050555/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2879886220/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Which of these foods have you tasted?
Hold a second. Aside from the migrants, there are amchi Goichis who roam the markets looking for a bargain/something affordable; Mupca, Margao or Vasco and you see folks going around with a pooti, and their heads bent, a look of shame in not able to buy much There is a section of Goichis who are forgotten, and the world around them just got expensive. These are folks who likely had a little money in the bank but the money in the bank does not get them very far. One sees them all over.they are the Goans who got left behind. Or for that matter go on a weekday morning to Cafe Corner in the Mupca market.vendors who come from the far corners of the North to the Mupca market can barely afford a cup of chaai. Some of them share a sip from one cup (you may say this is 'cause they have not sold their produce yet, maybe...but their faces tell a different story). One watches with great sadness. Goi has gotten out of reach for the locals. Minguel will likely have something to say on the price of produce sold by local Goichi vendors in the Mupca marketone cannot imagine they can afford the bus ride home. The market is now dominated by the up-country vendors. Changing times huh? You can now get listed style of foods in the Mupca market from Hydrabadi biryani (tastes like *) to Poonjibi style rubbery chicken!! Ah, for the Goan-style fish curry, one has to go to a 5-star resturant!!! On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:20 PM, George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com wrote: Frederick, the old blame the expat Goan trick, eh? Does it work every time? George --- On Sun, 10/2/11, Frederick FN Noronha wrote: George, I don't think this is fair! To face the implication from an expat sitting in the lap of luxury that nobody in India can discuss food till the last trace of poverty is wiped out from the face of this vast land. Agreed, we do have a huge poverty concern here, together with malnutrition that we all need to be concerned about. And many indeed are. But this attitude only strengthens my bias in seeing some of our expat achievers as people sadly out of touch with local realities on so many different levels.
[Goanet] Utorda locals wrestle against illegal kiosks (beginnings of corruption)
Being from the area what can I say.the kiosks have sprung up along the costal belt to cater to the migrants who have moved into the villages nowZuari nagar zopatpatti goes for 10 to 15 Lks.so not affordable. I can say with certainty that the kiosks will be removed in the next few days, only to come up a week or 10 days later and this time as proper structures. Dorado (GoaNetter) who lives across these and Joe-Goa will have something to say as well. And how will they come up? Well, the panchayat is open for business if you read between the lines. All of Goa is open for business and a note or two can change many things. If one raises ones voice, the kiosk owners likely will pay you a visitinquiring if your house is on sale! This is all Hubli-by-the-beach. Gone are the days when the only kiosks were those selling sausage pau; try finding sausage pau (except near the Cansaulim station, Betalbatim)its all wada-pau land now!! Discount for folks from the Panchayat! *sigh*
Re: [Goanet] A gift... of Goan books to Karachi
Money and support do count and one had suggested Goichis visiting Goa to support Concani by buying of Concani (Romi script please...yes, its all about) magazines and giving generously to the one Concani weekly newspaper. I think the donations are accepted at Pilar. A subscription is great or even buying a whole lot of distributing them. Its nice to spread Ingleesh language books but what needs urgent attention is amchi maibaas in my view!! 2011/9/19 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com: Thanks to Selma Carvalho for responding to an appeal from a Goan in Karachi, who point out that while there are a number of books being published in Goa these days, hardly any reach his city. Menin Rodrigues would like to build a modest library of Goa-related books there. We managed to send across books to Menin Rodrigues men...@gmail.com who recently wrote in to acknowledge the receipt of these books: 01. Song of Goa - Crown of Mandos by Jose Pereira, Micael Martins Antonio da Costa 02. The Many Faces of Sundorem - Women in Goa by Fatima da Silva Gracias 03. Feasts, Festivals and Observations of Goa by Maria de Lourdes Bravo da Costa Rodrigues 04. Mirror to Goa by Donna J Young 05. Picture-Postcard Poverty by Kalaand Mani Frederick Noronha 06. The Last Prabhu by Bernardo Alvino de Souza 07. Aroma, from the Goan Kitchen by Shilpa Sinari 08. Reflected in Water, Writings on Goa Edited by Jerry Pinto 09. Modern Goan Literature by Peter Nazareth 10. Into the Diaspora Wilderness by Selma Carvalho 11. Veni, Vidi...Goa by Luis S. R. Vas 12. Cozinha de Goa by Fatima da Silva Gracias 13. Home Style Cuisine by Joyce Fernandes 14. Temptations 15. A Culinary Escapade of Goa by Odette Mascarenhas 16. Delights from Goa by Aroona Reejhsingham 17. Goan Dishes by Sudha S. Amonkar 18. Hansun Khellun Xikum by Pratap Naik SJ
Re: [Goanet] A gift... of Goan books to Karachi
Fred-bhaai, by no means am I suggesting charity. Goa gov'ment supports Concani? I see! Quiet the contraire: what I am suggesting is action by subscribing and giving subscriptions to folks who read Concani. Showing support rather than charity. Its a lovely language and one of the few things one can do is proudly speak it, keep it alive. Supporting the publications is keeping it alive. To promote 'zalaach pai-je', a language that...makes one sick in the stomach (even the mention on the GoaNet). But then the GoaNet is dying anyways! 2011/9/21 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com: On 21 September 2011 23:25, Pandu Lampiao pan...@gmail.com wrote: Money and support do count and one had suggested Goichis visiting Goa to support Concani by buying of Concani (Romi script please...yes, its all about) magazines and giving generously to the one Concani weekly newspaper. I think the donations are accepted at Pilar. A subscription is great or even buying a whole lot of distributing them. Its nice to spread Ingleesh language books but what needs urgent attention is amchi maibaas in my view!! Pandubab, I definitely have no beef with you on the need to promote Konkani. But then are you seeing this as a zero-sum-game? In my view, all languages should be promoted by those who are best equipped to do so.
Re: [Goanet] Unending discussions...
Keep it coming.never enough. Problem is too many people have unlimited internet, bored out of their minds...one gathers from the GoaNet posts. And then the U-gunda or is it Afri-gunda spills over the cyber world, the writing loud, the posts mindless. Phew. Hey, soon commingcomputer with breath analyser. And dis just for you, O baai-Fred in heels, on the run..mera jootasorry, no disco. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wjGc1zGWBcob=av3e (a Saligao-side belle suggested this for listening). 2011/9/12 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com: I think the problem stems from not knowing when enough is enough, and gracefully giving someone else the chance to have the last word. Would you agree? FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org
Re: [Goanet] Through The Wormhole: Is there a Sixth Sense? | Watch Free Documentary Online
Yo Con, would be interesting to know your views on the sixth sense, in particular since we as Goichis have a history of thisof ghosts, possession, a wee bit of black magic. And what about your views on 2012? I think there is a documentary on your link (I saw a few years ago) that explores the Mayan connection to what is under the sea. There are underwater caves that are marked (by humans) and the caves go in the general direction of the atlantic, likely the Mayans. Interesting but a lot of unknowns. With so much uncertainty (and I think the bible alludes to this), there are theories floating around as to where we can from. Some claim we are alien (which is why, when we talk of go^d, we point up to the sky). While some exploring the Mayan scripts think we may have come from the sea...therefore the connection to the underwater caves on the east coast of Mexico. --- On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Con Menezes cmene...@tpg.com.au wrote: Sir, Appears that I have stirred up a hornet's nest in my 'unending discussions' criticism. mostly agreeably positive. As a departure from those boring topics, here is one of the many interesting documentaries that will enable Goanetters to know all about things that matter concerning our universe, art, history, biographies etc., etc., it is a 'mine of knowledge' waiting to be unearthed by your curious minds. Enjoy Con http://topdocumentaryfilms.com:80/through-the-wormhole-is-there-a-sixth-sense/
Re: [Goanet] What did Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão actually say? Re: I walked over half a kilometer barefooted in Margao
Say Fred-baai, your computeer took off on you, went to the neighbours house? Woah. Say, can your com'tor climb coconut trees ya? We can meet tomorrow behind the convent, I have a good business idea. Saam-ki best. And just in case you made it to Deshi Fab and ram away with the joota (and a saka-ram caught up with you)say you tripped in the mud, heels can be awfully difficult to run, let alone walk.you could always pretend you are a Tiatre Academy run-away!! Just a suggestion re, bai-Sukorin impersonator! On the topic of joota, there is a story our late Regina Mundi teacher told us: a businessman from across the mountains living in Calcutta was so fed up with the Endian govments import duties on shoes, he drew up a scheme. Imported the right legged joota in container one. The container arrived, was unclaimed, so the Custom peoples opened it to take a peek. What to do with right side shoe? They auctioned it. The man got it for nothing. Then arrived container two, with the missing jodi. What to do re? Custom peoples had to auction itsaamke best business. Where there is a will, there is a shoe! On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: What a lovely coincidence :-) I too felt that Dr Falcao should have not said what he said... and here the Goanet archives agrees with me and throws up a complete blank! Hope it doesn't show up elsewhere :-) As for excuses, I didn't run out of ink, but my computer did go for an upgrade to the neighbours house over the past couple of days :-) FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org
Re: [Goanet] I walked over half a kilometer barefooted in Margao
Aye Bhaai- Fred, you'll be waiting till your ample mustache drops off at the Kala. Not good quality footwear. Run across the maidan to Fab Endia and make off with some stylish joota in the laadis sectionyou don't mind heels do you? They are a good weap*n if the paunchy guard gives chase! To Lino: Yes, remember going to St.Anthonys ukkte-paiani specially during the rainsand playing god-e...lord in hell, the aroma of your Charminar and the tees-number is still fresh in my..or was it Panama brand? (St.Anthonys is a school, a stone throw from Casa Mauzo, just in case you get the wrong idea). 2011/9/8 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com: 2011/9/8 Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com: COMMENT : That is the price you pay for being a hypocrite. Did you go for Darshan or to capture some scenes? You are lucky some street dogs didn't recognize you![;-) Oh ye of the ungrateful kind. I think it's not fair to curse the finger that presses the shutter to create images which you look at. Specially when the same person's foot realises that time wounds all heels. (Or should we say, half a kilometre wounds all souls/soles?) And btw, whenever I need a change of shoes, you know where you'll find me Hanging around patiently near the entrance of the Kala Academy black box, when a programme is underway inside :-) There is a good choice out there sometimes, but not always. FN
Re: [Goanet] I walked over half a kilometer barefooted in Margao
Irmao Joe, Walking barefoot is good for you.not sure if Con has pasted something on the subject but walking barefoot on uneven surfaces stimulates the feet and in turn does you good. It usually takes 3-5 days of short walks to get used to walking barefoot. Not sure about walking in Margao, do dirty, so filthy. Do pass by Sawantwadi if you want to do some walking in a clean placewhile the Ganesh neoros are still crunchy. Ah, and for the post-tavern posters.great way to sober up is to walk bare feet on hard cold surfaces, like concrete, roadyou'd sober up in a few minutes!!! So leave your shoes at the tavern. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRkovnss7sg . On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Agnelo Fernandes pend...@hotmail.com wrote: That’s why I feel safe in church :) -Original Message- From: JoeGoaUk Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:16 AM To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] I walked over half a kilometer barefooted in Margao I walked half a kilometre barefooted in Margao Even when I enter home, I immediately swap my footwear’s at doorsteps. I use Payal or Paragon at home. Not used to barefooted walk no matter how clean is the floor. As I removed my footwear (which is a must) to make Ganapati Darshan at Margao Municipal Garden, back in just a minute or so, it’s gone, almost right in front of my eyes. I spoke to someone there and he says his sandals gone too. Ant aum kt’kotolom? Nearest footwear shops that I know of are at Pipalkata. I walked and walked on dry/wet and stony/spiky floor until I find a sort of temporary relief for Rs.150 Devachea navan chori Next time you go for your 'Darshan', mind your footwear joego...@yahoo.co.uk
[Goanet] Bathiya Santhush (S. Lanka) at the Masala Mehndi in Toronto (Goa connection)
While the Goichi auntie-uncles were doing the Goa Day buu-z up in some park and rolling on the grass with great dr*nken joy, came across this duo (trio) from Sri Lanka who did a Goa celebration of sorts at the Toronto South Asian festival at the Harbour Front last evening.some thing called baila tune, the roots/style they attribute to Goa. They had everyone on their feet and wild as a finale to their concert...the baila tune!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZvAM7vjzkQ
Re: [Goanet] Video: Goa’s share of Black money abroad etc
One gets a strange sense that this could be the beginning of an 'Endian Spring' (as in Egy^t and other north Afrikan countries). Agree or not, there is a sense of cleansing round the world...naked or people justice if you will. Animal farm... Wikile#ks lead the way to this new openness. Won't name the other groups but the internet has made this possible. All this comes at a time of uncertainty, strange climate and if no one noticed, food prices, a crumbling sup^r power.its real and no analyst no matter what coloured cubicle can get this one right... We ourselves (as Goans) come from a failed state, our leaders, the lowest of the low, the people going about their business aimlesslywe have nothing and everything to loot...the damage, beyond repair. . Gotta go, making sorpatel for the Goa Day celeb in the park (what?)where we'll all eat, sing and dance..and maybe. On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:22 PM, JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: In support of Anna Hazare .. II – A slice of Goa’s share of Black money abroad etc With Laxmikant Shetgaonkar, Varun Carvalho, Priyanka Bidaye, Anil Kumar, Savio Rodrigues, Prashant Naik etc Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6QqX56pKqE HD http://youtu.be/f6QqX56pKqE?hd=1 For more pics and updates visit... http://joegoauk-pointofview.blogspot.com/2011/08/in-support-of-anna-hazare-goa-speaks.html joego...@yahoo.co.uk
[Goanet] Abbe Faria's ancestral home in Colvale (from the buk club)
Alex: The other tragedy is Dom Moraes' ancestral and quaintly designed bungalow in Santa Cruz which is in a state of collapse. Without doubt it is of great historical and heritage value. It has to be restored immediately. Or it will go the way of Abbe Faria's ancestral home in Colvale. When Joel D'Souza of Goa Today and I (maybe ten years ago ) had gone to do an article on the village of Colvale...Abbe Farias house was already in ruins. But when we passed by after six months or so. The house/ruins was razed to the ground. - Hey Alex, is the Faria house by the small stream (in Colvale)...all fallen in ruin? On the road that links the new highway to the old Colvale-Pednem road? There is an interesting double storied house there...by the stream, also in ruin...before some sweaty-hairy Harnaya-ve buys it... As well, wonder if the locals see anyspiritual presence of Faria there? In my view, very likely. One knows there have been discussions on who Goans don't buy other Goan homes. The bank balance apart, there is also the question of the spiritual past or rather the spiritual presence. This does not bother the greasy lot from the North...or they are too drunk from Goa and their crisp notes. One good example is a house in Girim ( I won't give the exact location but that it has high white walls)large one...was going cheap to any Goan who wanted it. Apparently, it had a 'pensao' or is it 'pon-woti'. Finally some from the North bought it.not sure how they are doing thoughits nicely restored... On houses in Colvale...its uniquely an influence of our Indu past with colonial architecture...like the casa of dorji Rodgigues *wink wink* ( i jumped over the high wall, the dogs were asleep luckily, and the master...). Its a maze. The one other place where there is this mix is off Old Goa, village of Corlim. Some of the cat-lik houses have both the old and the colonial influences...very nice. So for example, there is no grand salle and the Salcette style balcao. I did not quote your line about the parish priests but goes to show they are rascals of the first order. **Cannot post this on the Buk Club (they say the smell of vinegar from my jussy chooris-pau bother 'em)**
Re: [Goanet] Bastora Church - An Oddity
The private gate is for the nuns to slip in and out, without notice *wink wink*...gate of h** if you will. Is it my imagination? What about your church...strange location ya.one can glide by the side door from Ms.Jaitleys casaand if the sermon gets boringand the local Moira lovelies (how entertaining they are) are too hung over after Saturday night of consumption at a certain b^r in Nachinola skip the Sunday serviceone can slip out the other door and chase after cows in the fields belowlovely (as in scenic) view BTW. Seriously, very likely some baatkar compounded the land and so people would not pass through the property. The usual excuse is the neighbours goats keep eating their lovely croutons! There was a similar situation in a certain village in Salcettewhere to get to the local St.Sebastian chapel, the locals used the traditional pathwaywhich cut across a certain eccentric baatkars land. One sunny Sunday morning, the congregation found the passage was blocked with a brick wall and the way around took another 15 minutes. As in all village disputes, there was the usual threats and someone broke the wall and the baatkar re-built it and finally gave up. Strange ending, the baatkar suffered some misfortunes. Some would say, deau-an haaas laili... I wonder if its their imagination? On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday, on my way to Xell, Bastora, I passed by Bastora Church and noticed an oddity. There were two gates, one from a private house and the other leading to a road and what seemed, at a quick glance, to be a cluster houses. What is odd is that usually churches are very zealous in protecting their properties and do not tolerate encroachment. I suspect there is an interesting story to this access through the church compound. Can anyone on Goa Net clear the mystery? -- Tony de Sa tonydesa at gmail dot com
Re: [Goanet] Aarti Sequeira
By George, do hand movements count when making lafels. I thought the lisp was cute and made the 'f' silent in falafelslittle did I know... My dotrem came undone watching this.ye saaiba boogos. Say the raap number (in the background) is wrong choice it seems. The guy is singing about going to a Parisian Hospital On a serious note, she is making 'laffels' with edamame (soy bean) and are meant to be super healthy. Madonna does not travel to a place unless there is a supply of fresh edamame. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edamame On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 August 2011 12:41, Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com wrote: Doing cookery programmes on Food channel - I guess she is a Goan - but what an American accent! First ate Egyptian falafel in the Saudi; here is one made using peas by Aarti. This is a nice snack for Vegetarians! Aarti Paarti Ep. 29: Pea-lafels! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ9130BVqSA -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Mamlatdar... first class magistrate?
Yes, they are. They are meant as an alternative to folks who cannot afford getting their certificates attested by a Notary (notary public) in some cases. In order to get a certificate attested, they require additional documents (proof...that you stay in the city, ration card and photo proof..proof of identity, basically). If you happen to be Katlic in certain municipalities, there is an orchestrated against you...you get the marathon run around. While a Notary will 'blindly' sign/attest your document for the buck -isn't it what life in Goa is like, anything for a buck-or-five, the Mamladar usually does it for free (or a very small fee and a fuss). 2011/8/4 Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoron...@gmail.com: Dear Goanetters, A reader from the UK wants to know whether a Mamlatdar is a First Class Magistrate in Goa, for attesting original birth certificates to be submitted at the Indian Embassy at UK. Please could someone clarify on this issue? I'm not aware of how the situation stands. Kindly copy your reply to sushila_atha...@yahoo.com FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha
Re: [Goanet] IN MAPUSA: Seconds To Go... based on the garage sales concept
My pet pigling Katrina, (as in ye-ye Katrina, the Mangi mating-call number) now wants to get inner peace through y*ga yo! Kitem saanche-re tuka. Am headed to the Morje y*ga strip shortly..for piga (pee is silent)..as advertised on Goa Craigs. Craigs works yo. Its the death of newspapers in North Amerika. Imagine your local rags.without the classifieds..waking up one rainy evening and reading the rip notice outside your fav tavern oh, lord I c*mming home... about your fav local newspaper http://newspaperdeathwatch.com/ And come to think of it, a lot more interesting reading (than the Goichi-N*t) is the best of Craigs... http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/all/ 2011/7/31 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com: Panduji, Does Craig's List really work? I know it has been been around for ages, even if mainly in name when it comes to its Goa section. Incidentally, I also love the second-hand books buy at Literati Calangute. http://bit.ly/pFr7dZ http://bit.ly/phBqzA http://bit.ly/nmQYKx http://bit.ly/nGUspo When do we see you next there? FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org On 31 July 2011 18:43, Pandu Lampiao pan...@gmail.com wrote: There was always Craigs list- Goa Uncle Fred, http://goa.craigslist.co.in/ -- Explanation Destroys Art.
Re: [Goanet] IN MAPUSA: Seconds To Go... based on the garage sales concept
There was always Craigs list- Goa Uncle Fred, http://goa.craigslist.co.in/ On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Frederick Noronha f...@goa-india.org wrote: When I mentioned the Mapusa-based garage sale venture, some friends had already heard of it, and just wanted to know where it was located. Surprisingly, I actually met Freda Vaz before encountering her outlet!
Re: [Goanet] India moves to give long terrm visas Goans settled abroad by Gabe Menezes
Hey Wilson, You can carry your old passport as long as its not cancelled (very important). The Kanadian passport office (when you apply for a new passport) will clip the old one in the corner, making it inactive (if you decide to keep it). You can try and let them know you have a life-long visa in it, ask to see a senior officer cause the little ***ck at the counter won't understand what you are saying. There is a senior person at the deshi commission (very civil person) who confirmed this is the way its to be done; he is a knowledgable person. My question is what are the rules about staying away from, say Kanada. In the Euro zone, one can stay away as long as you want but in Kanada...?. This is important cause there are many a senior citizen/retiree homes in Goa for example. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Wilson Coelho wilson_coe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Gabe! With reference to your post below particularly with reference to PIO / OCI This will entitle them to stay in India for 15 years or 30 years respectively without any need for a visa. The PIO and OCI cards are renewable. to the best of my knowledge and belief OCI is valid for lifelong as per the stamp fixed on the passport whereas you have quoted that it's valid for 30 years. Secondly, the Indian mission here in Canada informs the holders of OCI that they should transfer the Visa from old passport to new passport. When this writer contacted the Indian mission in Canada, they were not sure but stated that it is advisable. The writer also contacted the Immigration Office in Bombay to clarify the matter and it has been clearly told that so long as one carries the old passport is good enough to enter India repeat to carry old expired passport with the Lifelong Visa stamped along with the New Foreign Passport is a must. The transfer of the Visa Stamp from old passport to new foreign passport is done at a cost of Dollars 25/- presently. This is confusing to the minds of the fellow OCI holders abroad. Will u please check with our NRI Commissioner and revert back on this issue so that minds are clear.Wilson Coelho (Toronto/Goa/Kuwait) Message: 3 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:09:09 +0100 From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] India moves to give long term visas Goans settled abroad Message-ID: caafx5v5_fjnbyu4tazd3pvzdm_czheh-b2sstbi2vaxnbwi...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 India moves to give long term visas Goans settled abroad LONDON: Union Home Ministry has advised Indian missions abroad to extend long-term visas to Goans settled abroad, NRI Commissioner Eduardo Faleiro has said. Inaugurating a two-day global Goans Convention at the Indian Gymkhana near Osterley here, Faleiro said he had taken up the issue with the Union home minister after receiving several complaints from Goans holding foreign passports that some of our Embassaies and High commissions abroad issue them tourist visas, lasting three to six months. Faleiro, a former Union Minister of State for External Affairs, said that the Union Home Minister agreed that the procedure being followed is not correct and that Goans settled abroad must be given long-terms visas or X (extendable) viasas. The minister informed me that his Ministry is advising the Missions concerned as well as the Foreigners Regional Registration Office, Goa to ensure that long term visas are issued to them and these visas are extended from time to time, Faleiro. He advised all Non-Resident Goans holding foreign passports to apply at the earliest for a PIO (Person of Indian Origin) or OCI (Overseas Citizen of India) card. This will entitle them to stay in India for 15 years or 30 years respectively without any need for a visa. The PIO and OCI cards are renewable.
Re: [Goanet] Peacock Invasion Causes Snake Menace
Freddy, you are on the dot and yes indeed, the peacock population has growntook a walk from Bambolim into Curca (across the road from Siridao) to the spring.lots of peacocks. So also on the Dabolim hills (along the railway tracks) Have asked why the population has grown and some people think its because the land is trying up or to put it another way, the water table is drying. Apparently they are attracted to dry land.like in Gujarat, Rajasthan or Madhya Pradesh... This is what folks in the villages of Arrosim-Cansaulim are saying... They also complain that there are snakes in the fields (from the hills of Dogra Remet, Dabolim)and their reason is because the hills are dryer/hotter and the snakes try and find a cooler spot in the villages. According to the naav*y, the hills of Dabolim-Bogmollo-Hollant have the highest density of poisonous snakes (what I heard). In the very old days (1960s) one remembers foxes and smaller wild cats roaming these hills.one does not see any foxes around but from behind the Dabolim/Bogmollo hills roams a leopard or two...who has been periodically pouncing on grazing goats and pig lings from Bogmollo and even jumped on to a moving car. On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Freddy Fernandes ffernandes@emaar.ae wrote: Peacock Invasion Causes Snake Menace Now because of the fear of Peacocks, snakes have made our village their hideout. Few week earlier a Nagin was seen in the middle of our village as soon as our people went after it, it went up a coconut tree, it was late in the evening so people kept watch till it was dark, then the early next morning someone climbed the coconut tree, lighting fire to a cloth soaked in kerosene tied to a long stick, seeing the fire the Nagin jumped from the crown of the coconut tree on to the ground where the people were waiting for it and killed it.
Re: [Goanet] WHILE GOA IS IN CHAOS, GOVERNMENT TO PARTY IN LONDON
Wondering why the convention should acknowledge Goa's libits been 50 years of pretty hellish time no? Its time when we are always on the edge, never knowing whats up next, and now more so. Ah yes, I forgot the hot real estate prices. Liberation from what.and where do we go from here? The community in UK which is predominantly Catlic should rather be talking about our heritage, the fact that they are slowly and surely being pushed out no? Just a thought. And achievers? Politicians as achievers...not sure about that. What ground-breaking stuff did they do for the community?...now that would be an achievement. Rest is just self-serving what-ever-you-want-to-call-it. Mrs.Gaitonde last lived in London (is she around?) and wrote a memoir. Her account of her first impressions of going to Goa, trying to blend in and the rains is indeed sweet. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote: Since the theme for this year's convention is Goa's 50 years of Liberation, it would be appropriate to honour some of the living and dead freedom fighters. One of them should be the late Dr. Gaitonde, who made London his home.
Re: [Goanet] Food of another day... nachni
Bhai-e Fred, there is something similar to nachni in Latin and select health food stores North Am cities...a nichni-like grain (not white or red like quinoa nor amaranth...which in the old days were known as food of the Inca Gods, Peru). Never tried it. If I remember correctly, its available in powered form as...likely to make tissan-like morning porridge -one can get jagger-like cakes from Mexico if one wants to make tissan. Nachnni are available at the Goi govment stores..Re 20-22 for half kilo if I am not mistaken? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinoa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaranth In Goa, one makes baakri (instead of wheat flour baked with banana or jackfruit leaves like the traditional Goichi way), use nachni+jawar flourwith grated coconut jaggery (from Mupca market, genuine stuff...when buying, break a piece and if the insides are white, its not 100%), pieces of coconut, nutmeg/or cinnamon and a little organic turmeric (pure, from a farm store in Margao, available in the month of Jan-Feb-March). This accompanied with strong coffee (T-corner's ground coffee) brewed in Andra Dairy Milk (never Goi diary), maada-chem go'd and a liberal helping of aged rum.woosh, what a fine breakfast. Its thick, creamy.. The traditional Goichi baakri is baked on a banana leaf and gives it a nice flavour. Banana leaves are sometimes difficult to find (one has to jump the neighbours fence to pick some) so one can use jackfruit leaves, threateded together with a irr (off a coconut leaf) but the flavour ain't the same. On a side note: the coffee drink is inspired by the morning brew in Mexicothey drink a thick muddy chocolate, bitter as.something like cusmentbut muddyand they sit motion-less in silencenot certain but I would like to think its some recovery scheme from the previous nights drinking. Incidentally, the mexican cocolate (cheap and widely available here North Am) tastes heavenly (dark haven) in a meat stew, ox tail in particular. Its what the spaneesh took back from down there.aside from goold. There is one 'must-have' book for all things vegetarianits called Laurel's Kitchen (published in 1976, now has a updated version on sale) and has everything you ever wanted to know about.my copy is in Goa and will show (not lend, thanks). This has tables and calories and medical info even. This was put together by three Cali hippis and they even have some touches of Endia in there... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel's_Kitchen On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Frederick Noronha f...@goa-india.org wrote: While passing by the Panjim municipal market the other day, I came across the women selling traditional Goan products. Along with the jackfruit (even the seeds are not wasted, but sold!) and black-jaggery (of coconut), I saw neat plastic packets of nachni. The problem with the packs of finger-millet is that it can be quite a pain to grind the same (traditional-style, wet, or at a flour-mill). Something made me inquire if it was available in powdered-form. For Rs 20, I got a fairly generous plastic pack, in a small merchant's shop, in the market itself! That took me down memory lane. Later that night, I tried to get the kids to play cooking. Unfortunately, there was a shortage of the traditional coconut-jaggery at home, so it didn't turn out as sweet! But there was some fun in preparing it. Aren (7) was thrilled with the way in which the boiling mix of finger-millet powder, water, a little milk and sugar peaked into volcano-like hillocks in the pan: http://bit.ly/olD7Um http://bit.ly/qLzkKk http://bit.ly/pRaMub What exactly is nachni?
Re: [Goanet] Conflict of interest?- New Jersey GOA elections
Eugene, for all anyone cares...the GOA ass*ciations can have the person, their grand-mother and the great grand mother the question in general what these associations serve other than organizing the bump-and-gring dances (sure, it promotes out culture and heritage and a wee hang-over) and a scrap or twothey are hardly social. Attended a meeting or two in some foreign landunbearable fluff. So much ceremony, one thought they were holding an emergency meeting of the imf! And their only activity is the bump grind. Phew. And they hope not many would come in case one upsets the applecart! My point is they are useless and limpfilled with fo**s without any ideas nor care two hoots about the community in general. Imagine this thing called 'our heritage' is seriously on the edge and either everyone is obvious or... Will stay away from asking what the association of associations does. Time to re-think and smarten up yo. On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote: As for the conflict of interest in Goan associations, the GOA Toronto had members of the same family (brother and sister) in the executive committee. However, the GOA president is automatically on all subcommittees as de facto member. He is also, I think, de facto vice-president of the Goan Charitable Organization, which is under the umbrella of the GOA though not its sub-committee. The GOA president is not on the board of trustees. The GOA Toronto executive committee has expanded in numbers. Some were even added to the committee with new portofolios without the admendment to the constitution. I think things have been regularized now. Like many Indian associations in foreign countries, the Goan associations too face conflict of interest charges.
Re: [Goanet] Query: Renovating a house...
Hi Victor, the curved tiles (what I was referring to) are now not available is storesone has to order them from the area between Karwar-Mangalore...one sees old tile-making units (quite beautiful when one is on the Konkan railway going south). The curved tiles are now in fashion and I have seen homes bought by ** and being renovated using the rounded tiles. The newer homes used the flat tiles (like your casa)...they were fashionable and economic (one used lesser tiles etc). As well, the flat ones were easier to repaid The trouble is there are a few folks who can repair the rounded tilesthese are Goans who work in groups and they have to be booked many months in advance. For Fred: as for the floor tiles, there are some stores in Margao that carry themI know someone using them. Nice but expensive. WHy not use red-cement. There are still a few folks in Peadne who can do the cement flooring. I had a nasty experience.the lot from across the Ghats claim they have experience doing cement floorsNAW. They missed the basic mix to get a yellowended up getting green, then dark greencostly mistake. Finally got a fellow from another neighbouring state who got the yellowbut nothing compared to the workmanship of the old Goan masons. The other tip for flooring is to catch someone from Ker. They have a technique (which they use in mud (mud-brick homes)...where they mix charcoal, coconut shell powdered and some flower juice to get a shiny black.. Cheers. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro vrangel...@yahoo.com wrote: My dear Frederick and Pandu Lampiao, The old-style Goan houses did not have red Mangalore tiles. Well into 1961, they had the old curved tiles, that were placed in special rows, one row inverted over the other, forming hundreds of channels, so that even the heaviest rain found its way off the roof and on to the ground. Of course, if a kir dropped a large seed on to the roof, or a child threw a stone or aimed at a bird with a catapult, the tiles would get damaged, and the rain would then finds its way inside the house. I remember, as a child, I and my brother and sisters would have to run from room to room during a rainstorm, placing pots and pans on the floor where a leak had developed in the ceiling directly above. That is the reason why the tiles had to be replaced by hand every year, and that is why we now have red Mangalore tiles in place. Regards to all, Victor From: Pandu Lampiao pan...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 2:47:21 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Query: Renovating a house... Your home-town, Mangalore. They still make them there and are available on order. Take the 2:40 from Margao 2011/7/3 Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoron...@gmail.com: A friend wants to renovate an old-style Goan house, and is looking for the old red tiles that used to be in the past (so as to retain the old look). Would anyone know where these are available? Many thanks, FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha
Re: [Goanet] Query: Renovating a house...
...that was the train timing I mentioned, Irmao. 2:40... Margao-Mangalore daily.being mindful that the prospective tile-buyer may hit the tavern when in Margao Chooris-pau business: pigs are hard to come by over here.limited means of chasing them (one has to be mindful of the neighbours nicely manicured lawns *yawn*) and so have the number of aunties dwindled...kitem saangche re tuka. Getting back to the flooring business, there is a tile manufacturer called supreme tileswho makes the Italian style tiles/some collaboration...so if you have an old house with a ballroom etcthose tiles ...will make you wanna dance, danceMost tile stores in Goa can order their tiles for yourather expensive. There is a house in Bina being renovated, where they have used Supreme tilesthey look lovely. 2011/7/5 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com: This is what I like about you Goenkars. Not only will they dig up your roots, but they will also tell you which bus to catch. Service with a grin, what better form! Pandu, how's the choris-pao business over there? Here, the glass is working fine (thanks for it!) FN On 5 July 2011 00:17, Pandu Lampiao pan...@gmail.com wrote: Your home-town, Mangalore. They still make them there and are available on order. Take the 2:40 from Margao
Re: [Goanet] Query: Renovating a house...
Your home-town, Mangalore. They still make them there and are available on order. Take the 2:40 from Margao 2011/7/3 Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoron...@gmail.com: A friend wants to renovate an old-style Goan house, and is looking for the old red tiles that used to be in the past (so as to retain the old look). Would anyone know where these are available? Many thanks, FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha
Re: [Goanet] Bollywood damaka in Toronto
*sigh* Aye say Eugene-bhaai, wonder how Boily-wood will portray our dance-drink-and-all-fall-down Goichis in Toronto? Not much different from back 'ome no? On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/toronto-poised-for-bollywood-boom/article2069764/--XX- Toronto poised for Bollywood boom TAMARA BALUJA From Wednesday's Globe and Mail Published Tuesday, Jun. 21, 2011 5:40PM EDT Last updated Wednesday, Jun. 22, 2011 1:38AM EDT According to plan, Hollywood North might soon become Bollywood West. Toronto’s film industry is hoping that continuing talks between Canada and India will result in a federal co-production treaty that will bring more Bollywood production work here. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/awards/international-indian-film-award/bollywood-gets-hotter-than-vindaloo/article2065243 Band Baaja Baaraat Band Baaja Baaraat (English: Band Instruments Wedding-procession), also known by the abbreviated form BBB is a 2010 Indian feature film that marks the directing debut of Maneesh Sharma and stars Anushka Sharma and newcomer Ranveer Singh in the lead roles. Produced and distributed by Yash Raj Films, the film is a romantic comedy set around the world of wedding planning. It was released worldwide on December 10, 2010. - Band Baaja Baaraat Band Baaja Baaraat (English: Band Instruments Wedding-procession), also known by the abbreviated form BBB is a 2010 Indian feature film that marks the directing debut of Maneesh Sharma and stars Anushka Sharma and newcomer Ranveer Singh in the lead roles. Produced and distributed by Yash Raj Films, the film is a romantic comedy set around the world of wedding planning. It was released worldwide on December 10, 2010. International Indian Film Awards Bollywood gets hotter than vindaloo Bollywood is getting ready to bedazzle Toronto.
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos Video: GRA meeting at Azad Maidan
Thanks Joe and thanks Parrikar for from wherever you are being bang on the impact speakers. You missed out on the woman (grey kurta, short hair) whose rousing talk argued well and I thought created a lot of impact. She got the loudest applause. Never mind the parde'z but one would like to salute Yatish Naik: wow, well spoken, a clear voice (in terms of issues) and so much conviction. Lastly, one was disappointed with the crowd turn out. There were under cover cops, local creepy crawlies keeping a watch full eye and many-a-migrants stopped by to listen. At some point, that hairy character called Director of Info crept byand quickly slipped towards Cafe Prakash. And one thinks for all the bravado, the talk and poetry of preserving the land and identity...the lighting guys were ironically migrants! On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote: To Goanet - JoeGoaUk wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsdetsPBt_A First of all, thank you JoeGoaUk for putting this up. Much appreciated. The magnitude of the crowd was disappointing. I was hoping for an overflowing Azad Maidan. Hopefully, more Goans will show up for the next rally. I was surprised to see Dr. Audhoot Prabhudesai. If he is the same guy who was the medical officer at Zuari Agro eons ago, then I know him well - hadn't seen him in almost 25 years until this video. If people like him can be persuaded to come out, there is a sliver of hope for Goa. Fr. Bismarque - what can I say, he is my man! Yatish Naik - spoke very well. What is the GRA roadmap going forward? I didn't hear anything about any action plan. Perhaps Rajendra will fill us in? One piece of gratuitous advice: please give the chaalis chor schtick a rest. It is tired and it is stale. Besides, every time Digu hears it, he must be laughing his ass off. All the very best to GRA. Note: Although skeptical, thus far I have kept an open mind. Until and unless there is evidence to revaluate this position, it shall remain so. Regards, r
Re: [Goanet] Tsunami- the seas off Goa coast
Never mind Bosco. There is a lot on the G-net one likes to ignore. Last evening at the mouth of the Baga river, the water levels were like the monsoons...the water level up to the shacks. In fact there was a crowd watching on (locals). There are a few things Goans living in the costal areas knowis the sea and its unpredictable behaviour. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Bosco D bos...@canada.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Mervyn Lobo Never mind what that organization in Dona Polo says about the no-effects of the tsunami on coastal Goa...there is a noticeable rise in water levels...Hollant or Butterfly beach is topped up this evening ...same in Cansaulim where the backwaters are full as during the monsoon season... The sea is a little choppier than usual. --- The NIO has issued statements confirming that the recent tsunami will not affect India. Just in case you have a hard time believing Indian scientist, let me assure you that the secondary force of the tsunami was sent in a easterly direction i.e. towards N. And S. America. RESPONSE: What next Mervyn? If a Goan resident says that it rained in Panaji should we expect you to point to the meteorologist's forecast of no rain?? I am not surprised that you can measure water levels at sea without instruments. What surprises me is that you took it upon yourself to go out and prove all the scientist wrong. RESPONSE: I'm surprised that you will attempt to deny a poster in Goa to post his observations from the beach who unlike you and me are at our keyboards 8000+kms away. - B
Re: [Goanet] Go on I am not Goan
True Vivian. I think one can safely say North African blood. In the old days, there was trade with the mid-east/North Africa (stories told)...and strangely, Endia never excelled in athletics on the world stage but two or three Goichis did very well...Antao, there was Eddy Sequera (came 4th in Munich)...and one other if I am not mistaken. So what? Well, all of them were specialists in middle distance (Eddy in the 400mts)..and this is a North African specialty. As well, remember some bright spark in the govt decided to adopt certain ethnic Endians for a specialty in a particular sport in the late 80s?.nothing came off it. Their theory (heard it on Dori-dharshan) was to adopt kids of African ethnicity from villages on the west coast of Endia and train 'em in athletics, folks from Andaman and Nikobar Islands in football (remember the Williams family that played for Dompo in the 70s/80s?)and so on. My guess is this program failed and one has not seen any shining stars emerge. Regards On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Vivian A. DSouza socorro...@yahoo.com wrote: Tony DeSa while mentioning many of the genetical inputs that make the pure Niz Goencars of today, has forgotten to mention the African (Negroid) race. I am certian that geneticists can prove that African genes are mixed in the pot puri of what constitutes a pure non-ghanti Goan. We are indeed a mixed breed. This is not meant to be derogatory, because mixed breeds are tough and resilient. Lets not consider ourselves to be pure anything. We are an hybrid race.
[Goanet] Tsunami- the seas off Goa coast
Never mind what that organization in Dona Polo says about the no-effects of the tsunami on coastal Goa...there is a noticeable rise in water levels...Hollant or Butterfly beach is topped up this evening ...same in Cansaulim where the backwaters are full as during the monsoon season... The sea is a little choppier than usual.
Re: [Goanet] The Charms of Goan Dhobitalao
Timo-tee bought a flat on the Cuffe Parade road/Woodhouse road junctionits a blue and white building (not sure of the name) He still survives the last one heard after someone popped a couple at him below his residence. He did not like any guys visiting therehe had a love*y daughter from the Goan wife. The restaurant business (he owned a bar off Dalal street as well) is now run by a son from one of his many mistresses.Think the flat you mention near Snowflakes was to house his mistress. He also organized a lobby group for all Konkani-speaking Uudpi restaurants all over Mumbai. Colourful character and each evening, he arrived at the Dhobitalao restaurant in his orange-red Merc. On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote: Mary D'Mello is frank too in giving out the details of her uncle Joe. I knew him very well. Occassionally, my Snowflake friend would buy feni from him. Many times I drank along with my friend. Marie should remember Lalit Bar, whose owner was a Manglorean who married a Goan. His name was Timothy and he was one of Mumbai's notorious bootlegger. He bought a posh flat in the Nariman Point area. He got shot and lay paralyzed. Not sure if he is still living. He gave Snowflake people lot of trouble as he wanted them to sell the restaurant to him. He lived in the building on the other side of the restaurant. Is this also gossip, dear JC? Probably to you such facts don't matter because to you people who lived in Dhobitalao were depraved and perhaps had no high morality as you possess. Journos like me are not as elitist as you, a doctor. Eugene
Re: [Goanet] Selma Carvalho: Who the Bleep cares about Egypt, Goa and Revolurions?
...of such momentous events taking place in Goa. Talk of candle-lit marches on the corrupt politicians of Goa, the toppling of the powers-that-be and a new dawn emerging. Carmen, one appreciates your ideas, belief and brave words but Goa and its people are far gone and the situation is simply irreversible. Truth is, in most important assembly constituencies, Goan votes do not count. The 'inside person' who did the assessment on this (in rupees and votes) is on the GNet but never posts. To be realistic dear Carmen, we have lost our fire. Gone are the days when people came out on the streets without as much as a call...it was home, ours to defend and be proud of. This place called Goa belonged to us once upon a time; ain't so now...we are merely a society of taxi drivers (so say all the folks from upcountry). My sense is people feel hopeless, lack direction, a mass depression has set in. Destiny was not kind to us or perhaps we are a land cursed after the P-tguese. Francis Xavier said no one will 'control/ conquer' Goa again, it will destroy itself. This is not secret now is it? Never mind what the newspapers print..they and the folks who write all the flimsy dribble are all about commerce no? There were warning signs...but time to be warned is long past...from the famed Senor Miranda of Lotolim (one keeps mentioning this but he repeated this warming to every Goan he met) and way before him, the lonely voice of the late Wilfred Antao (founding members of the Gomant Lok Pax). In one of your earlier posts, you had mentioned democracy. Again, sorry to sayperhaps you have not understood the temperament of the Goan people. We maybe part of the Endian sub-continent but we are by nature latin...very passionate, we want an easy way of life, we understand no politics nor the concept of a civil society (sorry, a little harsh assessment). Look at Latin America..democracy works there only in name.. One hopes you are right but the we can burn all the candles in the market but the truth is we a minority and in a corner, we have lost touch with our land, we have lost faith in ourselves and there is now pride nor joy in the homeland. The futurenever mindits an unavoidable gaping hole! Interestingly (am unable to find this quote), late Lord Mountbatten gave a pretty good assessment on Endia when partingsomething on the lines of corruption/mis-management/chaos etc.all coming true! Interesting huh? On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Carmen Miranda carmitamira...@gmail.com wrote: Who the Bleep cares about Egypt, Goa and Revolutions? CARMEN - I care Selma, I do care very much and so do millions of people around the world! SELMA - Yes, the events in Egypt have been momentous and now there is talk of such momentous events taking place in Goa. Talk of candle-lit marches on the corrupt politicians of Goa, the toppling of the powers-that-be and a new dawn emerging. Revolutions are wonderful. They are great photo-ops for foreign correspondents to capture; young, virile men waving flags from the top of city monuments, having brought down a government.
Re: [Goanet] a request
Elementary my dea Fredbe selective as to who one rubs shoulders with and hope the rest wise up. Aha sense of humorgood old Xasti humor . poetic and carefree surely goes a long way... andwipe the chooris juice off your mustache.lest someone call you an 'indecent citizen'! On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Pandu, you of choris-and-pao fame: Your post reminded me of Sacrula de Saligao. As kids we mocked the Pope of All Religions, but I feel bad for that now. Maybe he too had a superior wisdom which we could not understand. The formula of how to stay sane in a crazy world :-) FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 On 13 February 2011 09:53, Pandu Lampiao pan...@gmail.com wrote: remind you...Goan villages have characters, some of them still aroundand not many know their real names. Its just a little fun.
Re: [Goanet] Suggestion of a good dentist
Camillo, I am trying to find the g'man's name and will certainly share it with JoeGUK pvt'ly. Unfortunately, because of the persons views, the very though that someone harbours hatred would make one shudder no, let alone let him free with ones dental fixtures? This man is passionate about his work, so with his beliefs/views, smart and knowledgeable and not into this for the money like a lot of the dentists around. As for Pekan's daughterone would leave her be. I thought it was a touching story for Pekan to be so taken up by dentistry. If you wish, I can find out and share this pvt'ly. Lastly, good dentists disappear. I went to a young chikitata dentist in Cansaulim as a one-time-fix thing a few years ago. She was meticulousnot much of small talk and great work. She stopped her practice since and disappeared. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Camillo Fernandes camillofernan...@hotmail.com wrote: Pandu's below post regarding a reputed dentist makes interesting reading. However without the dentist's name it serves no purpose. It would be very helpful if anyone knowing his name and where he practices shares it with Goanet readers. As regards Pekan's daughter too there is no mention of her name where she practices. If anyone had treatment and knows of any reputed dentist in Goa it would be nice to share the same. Dev borem korum Camilo Fernandes From: Pandu Lampiao pan...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! Subject: Re: [Goanet] Please suggest me a good dentist Pekan has since passed on, his daughter successfully got her degree in dental medicine and now a practicing dentist.
Re: [Goanet] a request
Publish and be dammed no? After so many years in the business, you are a tough guy yo! Eugene, you are right.GNet has changed. In the old days, folks had dial up internet and postings were limited to those who genuinely had something to day. There were a few abusive folks...strangely in the Toronto area. Today with hi-speed.GNet is a pass-time, a cyber mental hospital and some folks only leisure activity...From the posts, GNet is all the life folks have...and I can understand there is not much one can do in North American wintersbut do the rest of us suffer fools? What world one must live to use the term decent citizen? Decent what? And going back to your point earlier about posting under a pen-name.well, you've not lived in Goa too long but I'd like to remind you...Goan villages have characters, some of them still aroundand not many know their real names. Its just a little fun. We have lost the good old Goan humour on the Gnet. I think the few of us who ask for privacy...Joe, Xanno have never been abusive nor malicious? I understand Goan curiosity but not really. I personally do not try and stay away from Goans (in real life)...unless their are the old-world honest good souls(one likes to talk to them, spend time with them...and wonder...); they are in short supply these days *sigh*. Intellectual bankruptcy, have no doubt about it nor the reaction which is so predictable. This poster best summed up the situation, Rupert Coutinho: We have a distinguished hallmark of being ‘’susegad’’ and highly dumb educated class for decades when it comes to defending our rights, we haven’t done enough to stem the rot, we have only spoken too little but failed to match our words with our actions and have only waited for others to take the lead in our fight against illegalities instead of being the torch bearers of change in every little way that we can contribute. And you said a certain poster left the GNet. I know of the person is...married in the neighbourhood.and I saw that coming. This person left the GNet because of the touch of saffron. So I saytake a look aroundGoan society is fragmented (sadly) and one has to smarten up.certain communities are scheming (no, not my paranoia). This person is worldly and should have caught on but saffron is here to stay and stir. Lastly, why do I hang around the GNet. Naw, one is tired of reading from the posting cyber politician, to the gold digger to the old seniors with not much to do.but there are a few...Rajan Parriker among them, whose posts one looks forward to. As for Goaway far tooo gone and its annoying to hear folks wanting to save 'something'... as well, I stay here for the language.its the only thing we can really save! Thanks On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, Fred did not see the satire in the statement Thanks goanet for ruining one of my very few old friendshipes. Perhaps, most straightforward would be, Thanks to myself for writing frankly and fearlessly on goanet and for sparking off arguments with those who have no balls to counter my views on goanet but rather on a telephone. I just feel l should stop writing on goanet lest I lose more friends. Like I mentioned in an earlier post about a goanetter (without name the person) who has suddenly become non-active I feel I should also get myself into that category. Suggestions welcome from friends and enemies alike. Eugene
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Queen of Jackfruit Recipes ... (Shree Padre)
Jackfruit tree filings are used in the Agnihotra ceremony (a vedic sacred healing fire performed at sunrise and sunset). The following is quoted off the internet): Items that are used in agnihotra - Spiritual healing meditation 1) Native cows dried dung. (Handful) 2) Hand pounded red raw rice. (Fistful) 3) Inner husk of a coconut. (Handful) 4) A bowl of native cows ghee. (4-5 Teaspoons or more if you wish) 5) Small sticks of peepal tree or choppings of jackfruit tree or sandalwood tree or paalasha tree (Handful) The following example further illustrates the scientific benefits of Yagna. Bhopal (Madhya Pradesh, India) Gas Tragedy and Agnihotra The tragic incident occurred on the night of December 3, 1984 when the poisonous MIC gas leaked from Union Carbide factory at Bhopal. Hundreds of people died and thousands were hospitalized, but there were two families – those of Shri Sohan Lal S. Khushwaha and Shri M. L. Rathore, living about one mile away from the plant, who came out unscathed. These families were regularly performing agnihotra (havan). In these families nobody died, nobody was even hospitalized despite being present in the area worst affected by the leakage of the toxic gas. This observation implies that agnihotra is a proven antidote to pollution. (English Daily – “The Hindu” of 4th May 1985; news item under the heading ‘Vedic Way to Beat Pollution’.) On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Therese Almeida therese.alme...@gmail.com wrote: There is a common Manglorean saying about the jack fruit. If you have a jackfruit tree in your garden you can eat well for a whole month! On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Goanet Reader wrote: Queen of Jackfruit Recipes: Geethakka This housewife can make 300 jackfruit products! How many recipes can anyone make from world's biggest fruit -- the jackfruit? We don't know. But what we can vouch is that Geetha Narasimha Bhat (46) of Sagar, Karnataka -- Geethakka for her closer circle - can make well over -- hold your breath -- three hundred! Born in a GSB (Gowda Saraswath Brahmin) family of Hebri near Udupi, she grew up eating jackfruit in different ways. Her mother Sushilabai knew a lot of recipes. GSBs, as a community, are very fond of jackfruits. Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/
Re: [Goanet] Goanet] It is official! Mobile phones, towers and base
Just my two bits: there are documented effects of cell fone towers in North America and the most worrying aside from the effects on humans is on the bees and birds. They loose their natural instincts and their bearings. On human beings in the developed world.where disease is common.its the food ( gm crops), acceptable rad^ation (smoke detectors) + unhealthy eating and now mobile fones. Ofcourse, these issues are always tucked under the carpet and be my guest and guess why. Back to the bees and the effects of cel fone signals impact their navigation and there is a mysterious bee disease about. Whole colonies have collapsed. So have bat colonies in North Eastern US. A Brit paper carried a story (this paper always gets things right way ahead of others) to say global food supply will be severely impacted by collapse of bee colonies. Anyways, in Goi where agriculture is almost dead...it ain't matter. Money under the pillow today is lot better than food tomorrow is the shallow thinking, We have lost our appetite for our traditional simple foodxitt-koddi, bakri, tissan, godshem..all healthy, nutritious and comforting! Good luck, watch food prices in a few monthsRusia and Aostralia have suffered with extreme climate. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Blasio Fernandes blasio.fernan...@emirates.com wrote: I second what Elvino has said. There has been a sudden change in the size of the coconuts (no pun intended). It appears that they affect plants. I wouldn't know the effect of these waves on humans and animals. Blasio Chinchinim Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:45:25 +0530 From: Elvino Rodrigues elrock...@gmail.com To: Goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] It is official! Mobile phones, towers and base stations hazardous! Message-ID: AANLkTinP4_=dbpdwtdjhh7tfeg8feo9b+8cz07cla...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Perhaps it isTrue. Some people and our Coconut Plucker (Paddekar) also told me when i asked him what made our coconuts shrink its outer Shell (Sonn') that it is due to radiation of Mobile phones waves. But what can be done now! It is a necessary evil I believe. Regards Elvino Rodrigues, Navelim
Re: [Goanet] Who Killed Aarusha Talwar? - A Tehelka expose.
Pardon me Sa, but this is a statement bordering on bigotry no? And to think the Goa police have had similar uncivilized Singhs (aka North Indians) in the top echelon for some years now Arn't Goichis in Mississauga and Scarborough branded as Pakis? That is terrible. Ah, pardonnez moi...perhaps they have peroxided their hair blond, twitched with accents...and voila...you could hardly make out the difference! Oh how civilized and amusing they look. Decent citizens too! On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com wrote: For those who have the patience to read this lengthy and detailed investigative report, there will be nothing but contempt for the Police in all their avatars and for the Indian Justice system not in some backwoods village but in the capital city itself. Long live Tehelka! And to think the Goa police have had similar uncivilized Singhs (aka North Indians) in the top echelon for some years now. Today's news says that the parents have been arrested for the crimes. God forbid this happens to any decent citizen. http://www.tehelka.com/story_main48.asp?filename=hub190211THE_HOUSE.asp Roland. Toronto.
Re: [Goanet] an article to be pub
Pardon the pearly gates and rest of the flowery language Sir...it makes me wanna barf. But a story from the northern coastal belt of Anjuna comes to mind...some ageing lovely with no issues decided to give the old house to her fav some religious order (i take a dim view of organized religion). furniture and all. So far so good. The beings of this religious order were living and going about their business, till the ageing lovely paid a surprise visit on sunny day and was horrified to see the beings of this religious order drying their clothes on the family antique furniture (have a thing for antiques etc). Sorry, no drama in this story but out went the religious (what a relief, the antique furniture can now live happily after).ah, the poor ageing lovely. ifford Castelino castelino.cliff...@yahoo.com wrote: Clergy Home Recently a friend of mine, who is working in the Gulf, was renovating his ancestral house. When I asked him as to why he was renovating it when his children intend settling abroad, he said: I have worked hard for so many years and soon I will retire. If the Almighty gives me some more years of life, I would like to spend them comfortably in this house. A man who has worked hard throughout his life has a right to live comfortably in his old age. This applies not only to Lay people but to Priests as well. According to the Canon Law A Parish Priest who has completed his seventy fifth year of age is requested to offer his resignation from office to the diocesan Bishop…..the diocesan Bishop must make provision for the appropriate maintenance and residence of the priest who has resigned. (Can.538,#3) As I am getting old and do not know how long I will be able to leave alone without some help, I made certain enquiries about the Clergy Home at Porvorim and was then told that the construction work of the new Clergy Home would start in September, but till date nothing has been heard about the construction activity. The Clergy Home of Porvorim was a real Blessing in the Seventies when it was built by late Msgr. Agapito Lourenco, who had a Vision of his own for the benefit of the Old Priests. In those days many Priests made use of that Home, but today very few avail of this facility although the home has about 22 rooms which are so small that they could well be some old cells of the monks (today even monks must be having better rooms). Personally, I would not like to go to the present Clergy Home at Porvorim. The renovation of the existing house with more spacious rooms is also not possible, because, I understand the whole house does not yet belong to the Archdiocese. When will all the difficulties be solved? Till then what about the Priests who are getting old and who would like to have a comfortable place to spend their old age? Moreover, the location of the Clergy Home is not ideal as it is very close to the National Highway (NH A17) and it is very difficult to cross the road, forget about any evening walk. Already, some years back, my friend, late Fr. Manuel Pinto do Rosario, had a very bad accident whilst crossing the road. In spite of heavy demand from Delhi or Mumbai sharks to buy Old Houses in Goa, still there are people in Bardes who would be willing to donate their Old Houses for such a noble cause. In my opinion, the Clergy Home has to be located in a Village, (Alto Porvorim is no more a Village) far from the Highways, with a Compound where the Priests can have their evening walk without the fear of being knocked down by irresponsible drivers. There can be few rooms but spacious. A friend of mine, who is a Doctor by profession and a good Catholic, was telling me one day: Father, you Priests have worked so hard for so many years , and in your old age you deserve to have a comfortable place to stay. We, the Lay Catholics, are ready to help in whatever way we can, but we have to be approached by the concerned Authorities. The problem of a comfortable Home is not only of the Priests who are already old but even of those who are not yet so old. The Priests have to look at the Clergy Home not as a Purgatory where they have to spend the last years of their life to purify themselves before entering the Pearly Gates of the Heavenly Dwellings but rather as a foretaste of the Banquet prepared by the ‘King’ to the ‘good and faithful servants’. Euge serve bone! (Mt.25, 21)Almir de Sousa Bambolim, 15/11/2010
Re: [Goanet] Photo Journalist assaulted-Should we get beating from migrants in our own Goa?
Hey Joe, assaults on Goans by migrants are very common. A few weeks ago at the Cansaulim rail station (SWRailway), thee Goichi youngsters walking along bumped into a young migrant.they were beaten, shirts torn. One could not imagine this happening a few years ago. Times have changed ya. In Murmagao, apparently you cannot use the word 'ghaati' or you get assaulted (just hear say). A photo studio owner near the Murmagao Harbour (and police photographer) was assaulted not so long agoa young woman claimed he was not giving her a studio picture...the old man tried to pacify her, saying he would find it. She wanted it NOW. She got on her mobile, called 3-4 goons from New Vaddem. Total Indi movie style. The police came, did nothing. The photograph was finally found. On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:36 AM, JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Photo Journalist assaulted by a migrant vendor in Panjim This incident took place on 19th January 2011 GT 20/1/11 (Partly) When the cameraman hand gone to the Panjim market to take pics of vegetables for a news report /story on prices of vegetables. Suddenly, one Hyder Ali, noticing him taking pics of a tall near to his, shouted at him not to take photos. He then rushed towards him and allegedly assaulted him. He even tried to damage hiscamera The alleged assault is very serious in nature. Should we get beating from migrants in our own Goa?
[Goanet] Memorable concerts at Rang Bhavan
Guess ones musical taste reflects where one has been, ones taste ones openessor where you have never been...*won't go on*. Anyways, like many of you may remember Rang Bhavan (next to St.Xavier's College, Mumbai), where many of us took a introduction to rock roll and jazz and fusion and.and the very first of major bands from outside of the desh..from the Po*ice, Boomtown Rats, our very own Rock Machine to the 'once-in-a-lifetime-cocerts' by Dizzy Gillespie, Don Cherry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Cherry_(jazz)), Abdullah Ibrahim, Max Roach, Stephen GrapelliShakti.then in '86 came this quiet announcement of a band from then MadrasJ G Layaa true fusion band...playing compositions of Dr. Joel Almeida it said. They were not known and not much was known about them. Musically, it was the most memorable concert...one wished it went on forever...and as quietly as they came, they went away. One never hears much of them. Take a listen, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzDS2p8wAYk Some background on the band, http://swiss-jazz.ch/JG-Laya-1986.htm Site for Joel Almeida http://www.drjoelmusic.com/
[Goanet] Goan Steve Jobs-Air Asia founder Tony Fernandes
The BBC is running this clip today on Fernendes. Not too many businessmen who have compassion and a touch of humanity no? Tony seems like he has his act together, and impressed with his views on the human factor in business. Take a listen, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11647205
[Goanet] New nominations at www.theglobalgoanawards.org - have you forgotten?
Lest you have forgotten (I know there are some in the diariasporia in true Goichi spirit nominating their friends, relatives, grand mothers and jozz singers *yawn*...really?) what about the administrators of the GoaNet? Irmao Fred, Irmao Boscowho quietly give many hours of their time, 365 days of the year, so much patience, working tirelessly, never complaining.to keep the community spirit alive? Forgotten ya? Time to show a little appreciation I think!
[Goanet] Let us salute the Opinion Poll - Zalach Paaije, 16th January.
True, old Jak's talk touched an emotional cord and Jan 16th should indeed be Goan Identity Day (what ever is left of it). The phrase Zalach paaije... still hounds ones visual memory, the dirty orange lotus, forever the fleur de mal! That said, the old chap Jak was was aloof and I doubt he cared much for the people of Goa. He was withdrawnvery likely, his caste, his snootiness and his relative wealth made it so (who knows). Therefore, not a great leader, just a simply at the right place, right time with the right speech. He was the dictator, a guy who had the right message but never in touch with the people. There is the other doktor dude from Saligao, pretty much the same. He will tell you stories of what he did for Goaall squat. These guys never understood what it meant to be a leader, not had too much of a vision. He simply had time on his hands, never embraced the Goan people, never much cared for them, rather dictated to them from their perches. These are the presidents set by these folks resulted in the present crop of gaaunti-leader (pardon the expression, there is no other phrase to describe the robber-baron politicians of today). Anyways, these are stories of the past and will soon be forgotten. What one would like to throw stones and part-take is a big name-change action (something like the Concani movement)..remove all names of desi 'leaders' from Goan monuments. Imagine, which idiot named the Vasco football ground after Tilok, Margao ground after Nuru, the dirty GMC after his grand son? Why not call the Vasco ground after Goa's greatest ever football club, Vasco (http://vascosportsclub.com)...the Fatorda ground after commentator Benao and the GMC.be my guest, it ain't matter.
Re: [Goanet] Selma carvalho: who the bleep cares about us catholic goans
Concani swear words have an raw ero*ic expressiveness about them no? (talking of the spoken language in Salcette). The way its spoken can change meanings by tone. One often thinks of all the derogatory s^xual reaferences in Concani are uttered with so much expression, they get the blood pressure going *wink, wink*. As well, its ways of expressing ordinary everyday conversations, the language is sophisticated even. A Delli friend said she did not get much sleephad my response been in Concani, one would have said, did you go stealing coconuts. The Ingleesh response would have been a tame, oh, really? Kolwont = pr*stitute Pamprell= tart, beechy tart, red lip gloss, f*ck-me heels--- *shall I go on*? Folgollem= Kolug = bitch (as in a d*g)- never used on a human, like in French. raand baail= widow randul (adj)= widow, but a wee derogatory sense (like, gossipy unhappy widow) raa-nd-ii (indi)=pr*stitute Luk what you done to me Senor Fernandes: I have to queue at the confessional tomorrow morning! gnatius Fernandes igg...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I know very well that Domnic is an authority on Konkani and it's usage when he explained to Selma about the differences between a prostitute being called a 'cheddi and a widow being called a rannd bhaile. What are the explanation for these konkani words, please explain it to me Kolwont,Pamprell, Folgollem, and a Kolug the last one I know what it means. Ignatius Fernandes.
Re: [Goanet] Tremors Just A Passing Phenomenon Says Mamlatdar
This map that records and pinpoints seismic stuff does not show any event on the west coast: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/75_15.php (so it was likely tiny in magnitude). reddy Agnelo Fernandes freddy.agnelo.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Tremors Just A Passing Phenomenon Says Mamlatdar Tremors which evolved from the mining areas of Sanguem were felt as far as Sanvordem and beyond and all that the pawn of the miners and politicians, called Mamlatdar of Sanguem had to say was, “it was just a passing phenomenon”. The word “phenomenon” means an unusual, significant circumstance or an unaccountable fact or occurrence that is perceptible or detected by our senses, it also means a remarkable or an outstanding person; a paragon.
[Goanet] Kabbadi v/s football (Asian Cop- Desh/OZ): what a shame, what a shame!
Score Oz 4: the desh 0. Say, why didn't they put the desh team lead by a Goichi (player named after a *** scenario) on a wrong planeland them in some desolate place or something? It was a shame to watch them barely manage one pass ( ball posession for the desh 27%). At times, it resembled a game of kabbadi. Like they say in Nuvemtigur dothalem! I feel sorry for those who paid to watch the gametrust you had other entertainment! They should just scrap the game alltogether here no? Stick to kabbadi! Even in Goi, the pro-league barely gets 500 to watch a game and the clubs are just a tax scheme for the m^ning h*uses no?
Re: [Goanet] Illegal Buy of Goa
Just my observation Mesquita on the folks from up-country: apparently, in Delli, its prestigious to own a house/place in Assagao-Arpora-Siolim. If one does not have either of these, one is considered 'not arrived'. So some local airlines have increased their frequency to Delli. Spice does two a day!! How they make their money? Well, half the world looking for new business opportunities has descended into Delli.so the opportunities galore. Ofcourse, opportunities knock for those who are smart and *I'll leave that to your imagination*. True and sadthere are Goichis living in the slums, be in Margao, Zuarinagar or around Vasco and prices there are getting beyond the reach of the common Goan (I hear its 15L for a zopadpatti). Things have become sooo expensive in the last year, there are Goans (crooked of mind, a smile to boot and holy than anyone, on a Sunday) knocking on doorstrying to get on to your property..then you are the victim! Nice modus operandi ya? Lastly, Delli-wallas in their swank SUV's now refer to Goichis...yes, you and me..as taxi-drivers. We are now depleted, lacking in ideas (preaching none the less, without a strategy nor logic)...and they are not far wrong. Some G-Net lollipop will respond sayinghow dare they? Well dude, before you shoot your mouth, take a good look around. Truly feel sad for the very, very few honest Goichisone sees them in the markets, looking for bargains and their faces are sunken, gloomy...their eyes, looking down, in shame. For its no fault of theirs...they live an honest life, but life is cruel and unkind. No high speech nor the endless blabber on the G-Net will comfort them nor provide a solution. They have to face the future, helpless, confused and hopelessly alone! Time to move on. Karwar is only an hour+half away by the 2:40PM Margao-Mangalore daily Passenger! in Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com wrote: It is well known that Goans cannot generally afford land in Goa and the non goans (mostly nicknamed Delhiwallas) only have the cash to buy real estate in Goa. My question is from where does these Delhiwallas get so much money? Is there not a high percentage of cash got via illegal means, black money etc? The average Goan earning his/livelihood via legal means is no match for the Delhiwallas. Surely the buying of Goa via all this illegitimate cash cannot be right!! The irony is that the laws via the constitution have given a free hand to these Delhiwallas, to do as they wish in the liberation of Goa from the Goans. It is high time Goans demand restrictions on SALE of our Scarce Goan Land to all non-goans; including the Delhiwallas!! Vested Interests of course will argue that if Goans can buy real estate elsewhere then outsiders can do same in Goa. Surely we appreciate that each community has its unique characteristics and one simple logic cannot be followed for all e.g. Himachal Pradesh, Kashmir etc which have special status. In India, most states can maintain their unique identities because of their big size population. Each state has limits to sale of land sales intake of migrants (today minimum 40% of Goa’s population). Unlike other states, Small Goa has way crossed the tolerance limits now needs safeguards. Goa's core issue its identity is threatened as it has different characteristic/size/population vs. others; hence what works in other states cannot apply to Goa!! -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/ 6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim 7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ --- --- NEW BOOK: 'PATRIOTISM IN ACTION: Goans in Indias Defence Services' Copies now available at: GOA: Literati (2277740), Other India (2263306), Broadway (6647038), Mandovi (2427904), Noel DSilva Associates (9823120454 / 9096781714), Confidant / Golden Heart Emp (2732450), David Co (2730326), Vardaan (9527463684) SERV / RETD Def Offrs in Goa: O/o Sainik Co-op Hse Bldg Sty, Def Col, Porvorim (2417288) MUMBAI: David Co (22019010) PUNE: Manneys (26131683), Popular (25678327) BENGALURU: Narayan (22865800) DELHI: Ritana (24617278) ONLINE (worldwide delivery): http://www.ritanabooks.com/booksdistri.htm, http://goa1556.goa-india.org
