Re: [Goanet] Lawyers thrash JNU students and journalists in court
Sign of the Times. :-) Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Pamela D'Mello Date:16/02/2016 7:29 PM (GMT+05:30) To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Lawyers thrash JNU students and journalists in court Wow! "Lawyers thrash JNU students in court", actually makes it to Page 8 of the Navhind Times in the News Page, after the National Page. Not bad at all. -- Pamela D'Mello Cell 9850 461649 http://pameladmello.wordpress.com
Re: [Goanet] Sexual harassment case at Goa Cable News Channel takes a 'Tehelka' turn
Dear JC,You’ve raised some pertinent questions, which would be best answered by Mayabhushan, but here are my two cents.1. The story does not carry quotes from the ‘victim’ and ‘perpetrator’ but it is insufficient to prove that Mayabhushan has not spoken to (or known) them. However, quotes do lend a story a certain credibility.2. As we have seen, time and again, news of such incidents only cause the woman victim untold grief. There is curiosity about her identity, character and antecedents, and even before a formal complaint has been filed, the jury is out and her name is made mud. Whether she is rendered unemployable is anyone’s guess. The ‘perpetrator’ on the other hand, is let off with a school masterly warning, not to mention a promising career. 3. But the good news is that the law does not regard such impediments as loosely as balcao talk.The Sexual Harassment of Women at the Workplace (Prevention, Prohibition and Redressal) Act, 2013, defines sexual harassment as acts (direct or implied) like: (i) physical contact and advances involving unwelcome and explicit sexual overtures; or(ii) a demand or request for sexual favours; or(iii) showing pornography against the will of a woman; or(iv) making sexually coloured remarks; or(v) any other unwelcome physical, verbal or non-verbal conduct of sexual nature. Punishment: 1-3 years of simple or rigorous imprisonment. 4. Under the above Act, organisations are supposed to appoint their own Internal Complaints Committees, but in case they haven’t, the complainant can approach the Local Complaints Committee appointed by the District Magistrate or Collector. If she is unable to come forward and write out a complaint, the Local Committee is supposed to assist her with it. 4. But as we’ve seen, stigma and humiliation (heaped by both men and women in society) deters women victims of sexual abuse from filing formal complaints. Our courts are also to blame for the shoddy and insensitive manner in which they handle these victims during proceedings. But good news, once again, comes as the Supreme Court’s judgement in B C Deva versus State of Karnataka, 2007, which puts the version of a rape victim above material evidence in proving the crime. Regards,Reena From: cola...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 07:31:20 -0400 To: goa...@goanet.org CC: goa-book-c...@googlegroups.com Subject: [Goanet] Sexual harassment case at Goa Cable News Channel takes a 'Tehelka' turn I am sure that every reasonable person among us (and the 'lady in question') would want to file a complaint and bring the perpetrator to justice. I hope there is a fair structure for this to happen. My concern, however, is related to the manner of Mayabhushan's intervention. Here are my questions: 1: Do MB and the alleged perpetrator or alleged victim know each other, personally? 2: Has this publicity helped or hurt the alleged victim financially, emotionally and socially? 3: Has it damaged her chances of securing future employment elsewhere ? jc
Re: [Goanet] Coconut Oil
I agree with Santosh, here. Santosh Helekar wrote: It is not a good idea for you to run your own test. Besides everything else, it will be another mechanism for spreading misinformation, worse than what is being done right now by various multi-level marketing scams. A serious health condition has to be treated by a qualified and trained physician. A clinical trial needs to be conducted a team of expert clinicians and researchers. Cheers, Santosh - Original Message - From: Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Coconut Oil T o any and all, The best and simplest thing is to run your own test -- say 2-4 weeks, 6 months. Run it on family, older friends who have Alzheimer's (or other degenerative diseases), or upon oneself (in which case one may learn other things about self) and observe changes. This is one step towards awareness, the other would be the info the supplied by Goan researchers. One would expect the oil to be at least Extra virgin coconut oil (and, extracted under the most exa dried exacting conditions). Also from coconuts that come from trees which have not been raised with inorganic fertilizer. It had to be made from FRESH COCONUT, NOT copra(dried coconut) venantius j pinto Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. The mail is intended only for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. The mail shall not be acted upon but destroyed promptly, if a person for whom it is not intended receives it. Opinions, conclusions and other information in the message that do not relate to the official role of the sender shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by ABP Pvt Ltd or its subsidiaries, associate companies, affiliates or its group companies.
Re: [Goanet] Re : My one point agenda
anand virgincar wrote: Modi definitely used the Hindutva card ( much more so after Madam Sonia provided him with an opportunity to expand it with her Maut ke Saudagar clinker ). Deja vu! Reminds me of the stuff the BJP spokesperson had dished out, when caught pants down on the Times Now debate. I was hoping our good doctor would do one better! _ Telly addicts unite! http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml
Re: [Goanet] Thoughts to Kamalaksh_was_ An Open Letter To Rajan
I don't know where Chari and his response comes from. But no, I'm no Wikipedia fan. Its just that, in Pune, where I spent my childhood, we had a Chari family (Tamilian) who lived next door to us. As simple as that. Reena Frederick [FN] Noron ha * ? ??? ? ?? wrote: --- http://www.GOANET.org --- Symposium on Pre-Primary Primary School Education Primary School Students Chess Tournament More information at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-January/068222.html --- On 26/01/2008, Venantius Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upon looking at Reena's language, And here I always thought Chari was a Tamilian! -- it in no way explicitly rejects that Chari is not a surname belonging to the Goan soil. To the contrary, and to my ... Reena, like me, must probably be commiting the sin of depending far too much on the Wikipedia. And the second article has already got 'orphaned'. --FN QUOTE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chari%2C_South_India Chari is an Indian community belonging to Brahmin caste in South Indian. Chari is also called as Acharya. The word Chari is derived from the word Charya or Acharya (guru). Some of the Chari were skilled in building temples and travelled building temples towards north during Krishnadevaraya period. A bunch of the members settled down in Goa for building temples and during the era of Portuguese the Chari community lost its touch with its origin in the south. Over a period of Portuguese rule in Goa they were offered jobs like carpentary, blacksmithy and masonry for building the governmental and non-governmental civil structures. As Portuguese did not expand their territory in India other than Goa, the Chari community also was stagnated and hence they had no other option than remaining local carpenters and blacksmiths. The Chari community has progressed a lot now, not only in the field of arts but also in others like education, sports as well. Many of the artisans from the Chari community are well known for their artworks and craftsmanship. * * * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_in_Goa Caste in Goa This article is orphaned as few or no other articles link to it. Please help introduce links in articles on related topics. (July 2006) According to the Gazetteer of India, Union Territory: Goa, Daman and Diu, Part I which looks at Goa (published in 1979) the chief castes found in Goa are the Gauda Saraswat Brahmins, Karhada Brahmins and two sub-castes among the Karhada Brahmins known as the Padye Brahmins and Bhatta Prabhu Brahmins, besides a few Chittapavan Brahmins and Daivajnya Brahmins, popularly known as Sonars. Besides the Brahmins, the other castes found are the Vaishya, Maratha, Bhandari, Gomantak Marathas, Kharvi, Gaudas, etc. This India-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. we can see karhada brahmins in dakshin kannda and kasaragod district in kerala. in kasaragod the place called 'padre grama ' we can see maximum number of karhada bhrahmins MYSELF I AM CHIDANAND BHAT LIVING IN PADRE GRAMA AND IAM A KARHADA BRAHMIN ENDQUOTE -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph +91-832-2409490 The Goa books blog: http://goabooks.wordpress.com Goa1556 (alt.publishing.goa): http://goa1556.goa-india.org
Re: [Goanet] An Open Letter To Rajan
Why waste your breath, Mr Chari? I was right, afterall, even if partially-- at least by your own admission! Reena Kamalaksh Chari wrote: --- http://www.GOANET.org --- Symposium on Pre-Primary Primary School Education Primary School Students Chess Tournament More information at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-January/068222.html --- Reena Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Kamalaksh Chari wrote: Well I must say one must be a Goan to identify Goan surnames. And here I always thought Chari was a Tamilian! Reena RESPONSE: The problem with you people(RKN, Reena likeminded co.) is that you click on send button before veryfying the facts about your posts when you know tou made a big mistake you people HONESTLY admit it, then you are applauded for admitting that you made an mistake and you become Heroes or Heroines on goanet. Secondly it is also because lack of knowledge about Goan culture, history, etc due to which you tend to make statements predictions which are totally false. This inturn raises questions, queries, doubts in the minds of people on goanet, creating the endless lists of unnecessary posts. Regarding Chari community, well it is spread all over India not only restricted to particular region or state. In Mharashtra, Gujarat, we use Sutar or Panchal as our surnames. In other parts Vishwakarma is used as surname, and other surnames in rest of India. In Madras(or TN or Chennai or south India) we are known by Chari surname. So that might have created a doubt in your mind that Chari's are Tamilian. Any ways from next time onwards please verify your statements in your posts before clicking on send button. Regards, Kamalaksh
Re: [Goanet] Fraudsters on Goanet
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Symposium on Pre-Primary Primary School Education Primary School Students Chess Tournament More information at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-January/068222.html --- Dr Virgincar, Now that the dust is settling (hopefully!) around the controversy surrounding your name, I think I could safely ask about the origin of your last name. Like I would presume Raikars hailed from Raia and Parrikars from Parra, where in Goa would someone with a surname as interesting as yours, come from? Reena anand virgincar wrote: --- http://www.GOANET.org --- Symposium on Pre-Primary Primary School Education Primary School Students Chess Tournament More information at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-January/068222.html --- Dear Goanetters, I am sure many of you have by now read highly intellectual message scripted by the infinimally grey matter endowed pen of Mr R K Nair as well as the follow the leader style posting from the erstwile Mr Yogesh Desai. While I have no personal grudge against these two individuals, I feel the need to respond to them as it is clear when going through the archives of Goanet that this sort of response appears selectively if and when there is any poster with a particular political ideology or appears even remotely to belong to a particular community. For the information of Nair-ji and Yogesh-saheb, My name is Dr Anand Krishna Virgincar Date of Birth : 17 August 1963 ( registered in Margao,Goa ) My qualifications are MBBS(Goa University ),MD ( Bombay University ), DNB-Neurology ( New Delhi ),FRCP (United Kingdom ) I am a Consultant Neurophysician and Nerophysiologist, A Honorary Senior Lecturer with the University of Oxford an a Tutor with St Edmund Hall College in Oxford,UK ( You can google Anand Virgincar...if you dont know how to do this phone me on the number below... and u should get confirmation) My current address : 74,Headley way Headington Oxford OX3 0LX,UK You can also write to me at : Shubham Karoti 209,Comba,Margao, Goa,403601,India. ( My snail mail is scanned and sent to me regularlyand unlike many NRI's , i visit Goa several times a year...moreover I keep in touch with happenings in Goa literally by the minute ) You can telephone or text/sms me 24/7 on 0044-7906651522 My email ( in case you do not have the abilities to find it from the Goanet site ) is [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOW THAT this minor matter is out of the way, my question to Goanet moderators is ( particularly in respect to the mail from Mr Nair-ji ) is : How did you let that mail through ( with your stringent standards ) when : 1)There was a personal unprovoked attack ( including cheaply worded sexual references about my family name ) 2) What has it added to the discussion of the point I was making ? 3)When Goanet moderators ( if they have any Goan-ness about them... unlike the Nair's and the Yogesh's) should recognise as the true Niz Goenkars like Mr J Colaco and Mr Alfred de Tavares did instantaneously that Virgincar is a relatively common name in Goa 4)Why is it ( and we can all look back at the archives ) that this accusation about fraudulent ID's appears almost without exception when a posting is in opposition to a particular political or social ideology mog asundi ( or luv and regards for those who are not niz goenkars ) anand ( Dr Anand Virgincar ) _ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com
Re: [Goanet] An Open Letter To Rajan
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Symposium on Pre-Primary Primary School Education Primary School Students Chess Tournament More information at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-January/068222.html --- Kamalaksh Chari wrote: Well I must say one must be a Goan to identify Goan surnames. And here I always thought Chari was a Tamilian! Reena Kamalaksh Chari wrote: --- http://www.GOANET.org --- Symposium on Pre-Primary Primary School Education Primary School Students Chess Tournament More information at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-January/068222.html --- Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Dr Anand Virgincar :-) Never came across a Virgincar in Goa. Must be another fake id. Let me hazard a guess. What does that surname means? Someone who loses his virginity only in the back seat of a car? I've come across many Chodankars though. Khushwant Singh once wrote in his Malice column after a holiday in Goa that one could not live anywhere to the north of the Vindhyas with the name Chodankar :-) Cheers, RKN RESPONSE: Well I must say one must be a Goan to identify Goan surnames. I have heard virgincar surnames many of the times and its not any fake surname. Only I can say is Think twice before you pen down your opinion about anyone. And regarding taking out meaning of virgincar in english is foolish act, as it is a Goan surname it has hardly got anything to do with English. Hope you know that? its a very cheap level of criticizing anyone on their surnames. If I step into your shoes I would say better change your name to RadhaKrishna Liar. Anyways congrats for joining the group of posters on goanet who try to label fake for the posters who doesn't match with their opinions or views. Regards, Kamalaksh
Re: [Goanet] Liberty, Equality, Fraternity for Rajan!
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For RR; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Roland, You can call me Reena. The word journalist was never meant to be used as a title, anyway;-) As for your defence of Rajan, are you saying there are no civic minded citizens, journos, photographers.in Goa, doing a job like he does? And would you like it if all of them went about like canons on the loose, shooting their mouths like Rajan? Think about it. Reena Roland Francis wrote: Actually, I disagree with you on all counts ms journalist Reena Martins. Rajan may be exaggerative with his solutions to the many problems that Goa faces today due to the unbridled population influx of people who are wont to make it a pigsty, and which he brings to the front burner, but he speaks for the common Goan, including myself. I may not agree with all he says, but I do agree with most of it and as for the remainder that I don't agree with, I need to afford him the liberty to say it. Roland-in-Toronto 416-453-3371 On Jan 9, 2008 3:34 AM, Reena Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is, indeed, shocking and very annoying to see Rajan's brand of arrogance and intolerance on Goanet. They sure caught him young and watched him grow, it seems;-) While Goa could do with his talent with the lens, Goanet could certainly do with a lot less of his rabid nonsense. Cut it out, pal. Think we've had enough of your crap--and I don't mean the stuff along the Mandovi or wherever. Reena
Re: [Goanet] (no subject)
It is, indeed, shocking and very annoying to see Rajan's brand of arrogance and intolerance on Goanet. They sure caught him young and watched him grow, it seems;-) While Goa could do with his talent with the lens, Goanet could certainly do with a lot less of his rabid nonsense. Cut it out, pal. Think we've had enough of your crap--and I don't mean the stuff along the Mandovi or wherever. Reena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check this post from Rajan Parrikar. It clearly violates the following rules TITLE: Marxist Mendacity = lies, falsehoods 1. Do not use foul or abusive language. 2. Do not engage in personal attacks. In other words, no name-calling. 6. Use a meaningful Subject Line. e. Use civil language and a polite tone in all your discussions. Marxist gits [Git = A person who is deemed to be despicable or contemptible http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/GIT ] 1. Do not use foul or abusive language. e. Use civil language and a polite tone in all your discussions. Other bizarre terms: * comrades' pigpens. * second deliberate lie peddled by the Marxists * execrable propagandist * ghati is a ghati (used repeatedly and derogatorily, across posts) * Muslim refuse and Hindu refuse that is deposited on the Goan waterline every morning * like slaughter animals and leave carcasses lying in the open for dogs to drag them into temple premises * Their large numbers are bad enough, religion be damned (referring to Muslims, part of the Hindutva propaganda about Muslim numbers) * muddleheaded Karl (of the class warfare prattle fame) * 2-pesos trash-talking Marxists * their pustulated behinds Not everyone who dislikes Rajan Parrikar's racist bigoted and ethnicity-based chauvinism is a Marxist. Cry Goanet! I wonder why I wasted 12 years of my life on you! Please let me know if the following rule is being implemented, to avoid the takeover of Goanet by bigoted pseudonyms: iv. Post a brief profile of yourself to the list as soon as possible after joining. Frederick Noronha Goanet Mentor [Goanet] Marxist mendacity To Goanet - It has never been anybody's case that the migrants are the ONLY major problem currently wracking Goa, as claimed by the Marxist gits. The alarming levels of migrant presence are A (as in one) major problem. 99% of the Goans recognize this plain truth and therefore it has set alarm bells ringing in the comrades' pigpens. The second deliberate lie peddled by the Marxists is that the Muslim migrant is singled out for special disdain and abuse. Again, arrant hogwash, in the same league as the whopper by the execrable propagandist who had claimed awhile back that Muslims have no freedom of religion in Goa. To the Goan, a ghati is a ghati. Perhaps the Marxists have a highly evolved nose that can distinguish between Muslim refuse and Hindu refuse that is deposited on the Goan waterline every morning. Goans, I regret to disclose, aren't endowed with any such special powers of olfactory discrimination. Unless migrants do something particularly egregious - like slaughter animals and leave carcasses lying in the open for dogs to drag them into temple premises, as witness the incidents at the Shantadurga temple in Verem - Goans don't care two hoots about the his religion. Their large numbers are bad enough, religion be damned. The third deliberate lie the Marxists desperately hope will stick is the charge that to be anti-high-migrant-numbers is to be anti-poor. This stale smelly joke is ripped straight out of that goop of a Marxist playbook cooked up by the muddleheaded Karl (of the class warfare prattle fame). The Marxists and their Leftist sympathizers take pains to hide the fact that Goans also have severe issues with the rich bhaile - brown and white - pawing Goan real estate, buying out our houses. Those rich marauders who look upon our land as no more than seafront property to set up their vacation and party homes, and golf courses and helipads. As I have said before - the thing to do with 2-pesos trash-talking Marxists is to laugh them out of town (but not before rubbishing their pustulated behinds). Warm regards, r
Re: [Goanet] Paan, Piss, Panji
Rajan, At some level, you appear to be a man of good intentions... and then at others, one simply wonders... Anyway, doesn't really matter what I or anyone else looks at it, I guess. What does, however, matter, is the manner in which you put things across--more so at a time when the liberty to ask people to get lost or stay, is no further than the fingertips. And like many of us have learnt (the heard way, sometimes!), it would help to re-read your post, before, say, hitting the send button; to enter the shoes of the 'demons' you're so desperately trying to drive away--even if only your pet peeve, the ghatis. Just a suggestion :-) Reena Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: To Goanet - There has been a fresh drive against the city paanwallahs and encroachers. Councillor Surendra Furtado has been admirable in his efforts to enforce the law. However, the paanwallahs and other city law-breakers are said to have a patron in one of the CCP councillors. That is, those entrusted with upholding the city's law are active in gutting it. This must not stand. In every town and village around Goa, the encroachers, illegal hawkers, and squatters must be evicted. Once you let this poisonous weed take root it will be difficult to dislodge it. Let these ghatis go to Belgaum or Hubli or wherever. If you want to live in Goa, you play by the rules, else get lost. I don't mind purchasing one-way tickets to ghati huggers - go with your ghati flock and set up your own paradise. Warm regards, r
Re: [Goanet] Rain clouds... over Goa
Superb, Fred. am dragging my feet a bit..got to sort out some issues at this end. will move on it. Frederick [FN] Noron ha * ? ??? ? ?? wrote: Check this photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/1095113543/ -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 11866 downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
Re: [Goanet] Goanet makes news
Thanks Fred. Frederick [FN] Noron ha * ? ??? ? ?? wrote: See http://www.telegraphindia.com/1071014/asp/7days/story_8432057.asp -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 List of Indian e-lists http://wikiwikiweb.de/MailingListsInIndia
Re: [Goanet] cheap accomodation in Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For RR; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dhiraj, You could try the Caritas Holiday Home at Sant Inez, Panjim (Panaji). For Rs 250 a day, you could get a large, clean, airy double room, with a large attached bath (hot water all day). This is exclusive of meals. Its a nice warm place. Well located, too. Phone: 0832-2220921 Reena Subject: [Goanet] Cheap Accomadation In Goa. Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:57:26 -0400 Hello, Please provide the details of cheap accomadation in goa, the maximum charges should not exceed to more than 200 per day and should have all basic facilities such as hot-water, bed for a twin person. Request to send the information and do the needful. Dhiraj Fulbaria.
Re: [Goanet] To the Goan Enoch Powell...
http://www.GOANET.org TRI Continental Film Festival - Dona Paula, Goa, Sep 28 - Oct 2, 2007 http://www.moviesgoa.org/tricontinental/tricon.htm For public viewing Registration at The International Centre Goa Ph: +91 (832) 2452805 to 10 Online Media Partner: http://www.GOANET.org Well said, Fred! What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander? Does that phrase fit well here? ;-) Reena Frederick [FN] Noron ha * ? ??? ? ?? wrote: http://www.GOANET.org TRI Continental Film Festival - Dona Paula, Goa, Sep 28 - Oct 2, 2007 http://www.moviesgoa.org/tricontinental/tricon.htm For public viewing Registration at The International Centre Goa Ph: +91 (832) 2452805 to 10 Online Media Partner: http://www.GOANET.org Rajan Parrikar wrote: EVERYWHERE, on the prowl not just in our cities but in our remotest villages. We must prepare for Goa's second Liberation or risk obliteration. To achieve that the Goan has to put on his or her chauvinistic hat, for nice people can accomplish nothing in India. The only sentence I missed was rivers of blood will flow. The people you describe are the very same ones who take care of our parents (as we migrate across the globe), who supply vegetables and fish, who build roads ... and do all the scum work that no Goan, self-respecting or otherwise, would care to do. Try to give them a fair deal, and find ways of incorporating them into Goan society (as you would apply for a Green Card), rather than flushing them out or declaring war on them. FN -- Frederick Noronha Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org In Hyderabad. Ph 040-23132176 SMS: 9822122436
Re: [Goanet] Teaching pigs to sing/to Reena
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Selma, Happy to be proven wrong here! :-) Reena Carvalho wrote: http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org --- Reena Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Selma, I'm told Tony de Mello was an East Indian from Shirley Rajan village, Bandra. Reena -- Hi Reena, Someone (nice!) sent me a link. Tony was very much a Goan Catholic. His father worked in the railways. Those East Indians produce someone like Fr Tony, Saibab bogosh, no way! :-) take care, selma Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Teaching pigs to sing/to Alfred Marshall
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Selma, I'm told Tony de Mello was an East Indian from Shirley Rajan village, Bandra. Reena Carvalho wrote: http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org --- Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But dear Selma, is the man still among us. I, most definitely, do not believe so. Alfred. Hi Alfred, Good to hear from you on Goanet. What a privilege it must have been to know Fr De Mello in person. I'm told in private that Fr Tony died peacefully in his sleep at Fordham University NY. Apparently there are groups that meet regularly to discuss his work. I wonder if this simple man ever knew the amount of people he influenced with his short stories. Marshall, that's the name of the book, Song of the birds, which I couldn't remember for some reason. That one followed Prayer of the Frog, which I loved. I found him on Wikipedia, but does anyone know if we can claim him as one of our own, a Goan that is. It doesn't say so on Wikipedia. selma Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
Re: [Goanet] Teaching pigs to sing/to Alfred Marshall
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Ooops! Sorry! Reena Frederick [FN] Noronh a * ?? ?? ? ?? wrote: http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Reena, you were told wrong :-) Below is Tony's brother speaking ... wonder from which village. I know some villages where De Mellos and D'Mellos come from :-) FN http://users.tpg.com.au/adsligol/tony/tony2.html Tony was born on the 4th of September 1931 in Santa Cruz, a suburb of Bombay, India. Our parents, Frank and Louisa (nee Castelino), were natives of Goa, a Portuguese colony on the south-west coast of India. They belonged to a long line of Catholic families, going back 400 years, renowned for their religious fervour. On 03/09/07, Reena Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Selma, I'm told Tony de Mello was an East Indian from Shirley Rajan village, Bandra. Reena -- Frederick Noronha Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] P: +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402
Re: [Goanet] Have hose, will pee (all over Panjim)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For RR; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Well said, Fred! I, for one, owe a lot to some wonderful people out there on Goanet, who've reached out to me, so often --unconditionally. Thanks Reena Frederick [FN] Noronh a * ?? ?? ? ?? wrote: * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For RR; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. On 14/08/07, Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the pun there) as any other. However, Frederick, the world is not a caring and sharing place. It's as dirty as a Sulabh toilet. Selma, I think you are just arguing for the sake of doing so ... as I sometimes do, when I'm bored here and need a laugh :-) Anyway, the record needs to be set straight. We're not talking about the world; we are talking about Goanet! Even in the world, there *are* pockets of caring and sharing. Even in the crab-like Goan world, these pockets do exist. We need to identify them, and nuture them. If you don't agree that this positive side exists, how would you describe the kudds of Bombay and of another century? How do you explain all that social capital being built up in educational and health institutions, that even today offer Goans (and the diaspora, in some locations) quality infrastructure at a pittance? How do you explain all those many initiatives in cyberspace, started by a state that is just one-thousandth the size of Goa? Goanet has been, and sometimes still is, a very helpful place. We are at the crossroads now. It is up to us to decide whether we want to keep it that way, whether we want to shape it into a more efficient organisation of that nature, or whether we just want to reduce everything to personalised I-hate-your-face-and-religion kinds of postings as we have seen of late. For long, I have maintained a 'folder' in my email software (Evolution) called Goa Initiatives. Whenever I find someone proposing a good idea, it goes straight into that folder. I can assure you that it got filled with around 2000 ideas or emails over the year! Of small and larger kind. People used to be more helpful and less egoistical in cyberspace in the past. I recall how people like Eddie Fernandes helped my journalistic work with inputs of very useful information, gleaned from databases few of us had access to. I remember how unknown persons in Vienna delivered faxes (at local costs) taken off the net for me, when I was trying to get in touch with an organisation of oil producing countries that was to have a conference in Goa. I recall that initiative called the Goa Computers in Schools Project. Or take a look at George Pinto's Goa Sudharop, clearly influenced by friendships built in cyberspace too. We also tried to help when possible, small things like passing on messages, sending out news, or searching telephone directories for numbers required. People helping complete strangers, for no reason or motive, is a very inspiring trend. In a world quickly getting subsumed by selfishness (Ann Rynd would be rolling in her grave if she had to see how far we have all reached!), this is really something nice. What I mention is no myth. You can ask any of the old timers on this list, and I guess quite a few will argue. Yes, we did have our fights, our misunderstandings, and those things. But we also have all gained a lot from helpfulness on Goanet, and that's why I call it a tool for building social capital whenever I get the chance to do so! One day we will look back and realise the role it has played in linking Goa and Goans. FN -- Frederick Noronha Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] P: +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402 Yahoo: fredericknoronha Skype: fredericknoronha GTalk: fredericknoronha 784, Sonarbhat, Near Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India --- http://www.GOANET.org
Re: [Goanet] WHo is the hen and who is the fox
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- The First Konkani E-Cinema BLACK Nhesop Atanchem Fashion Premiers at Masrah, Hawalli Auditorium, Kuwait on Aug 10, 2007 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-August/060201.html --- Hmm... The pot calling the kettleagain and again! Reena Bhandare wrote: --- http://www.GOANET.org --- The First Konkani E-Cinema BLACK Nhesop Atanchem Fashion Premiers at Masrah, Hawalli Auditorium, Kuwait on Aug 10, 2007 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-August/060201.html --- Dear Floriano: Your 'conditions' for joining the BJP are very amusing. In the past you had called for parrikar to be jailed under MISA..now you want advani to be locked up for life neither parrikar nor advani have been convicted by an indian court for any crime...the SC acquitted advani in the babri case...as regards parrikar i doubt if any graft case is being heard against him rt now... dont you have any regard for the law of the land? or are the courts of law useful and relevant for you only if their judgements agree with your own ideology? the fact that you run for political office makes such utterances on your part all the more appalling...doesnt upholding the constitution of india include having respect for its judiciary? Regards bhandare Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Land deals
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org thanks fred. u'd sent me this earlier. Frederick [FN] Noronh a * ?? ?? ? ?? wrote: http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Below is a series of assembly questions, on matters of concern in the public debate, drawn to my attention by Pamela. I would just like to share some of the details, so that anyone could access the records and study the same if interested. All this information should be available under the Right to Information Act too, at Rs 2 per page, and are all based on legislative questions. * Purchase of land by foreign nationals : Legislative Assembly Question No 20 tabled by Ramarao Desai, MLA for Curchorem, 17 July 2006. (21 pages) * Registration of sale deeds exceeding 100,000 square metres of land, unstarred Legislative Assembly Question No 118, by Vijay Pai Khot, answered on 25 January 2007. * Number of cases cleared by the Town and Country Planning Department under the New Regional Plan 2011, unstarred Legislative Assembly Question No 112, tabled by Manohar Parrikar, on 23 January 2007. * Development undertaken after publication of the Regional Plan 2011, starred Legislative Assembly Question No 39, tabled by Sadanand Shet, on 23 January 2007. * Regarding sale deeds registered in the State, starred Legislative Assembly Question No 15 by Laxmikant Parsekar, answered on 7 March 2007. -- FN: Frederick Noronha http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts Phone 0091-832-2409490 Cell: 091-9822122436 or 9970157402 (after 1 pm) --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] goa sausages in australia
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Folks in Australia looking for Goa sausages, could visit, http://www.goasausage.com/ --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] Press Note for kind favour of publication
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org eh fred! who's this journo, huh? :-):-) Frederick [FN] Noronh a * ?? ?? ? ?? wrote: Another journo asked me for Floriano's phone number today. Gosh, I'm going to cry ... while Floriano ignores all entreaties that he should add a .sig file to his outgoing email! --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] soliciting meetings !
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Querobino, Why not? Reena Querobino Fernandes wrote: WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org The email below was sent by one Eugeneare these posts necessary on goanet? If someone wants to meet with another individual they will do soone does not have to be SURPRISED that NOBODY wants to meet him ! unless. quote. i am surprised that nobody wants to meet me in lisbon, where i am now. anyway, no problem. Obrigado, eugene unquote -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070705/c5f694ed/attachment.html
Re: [Goanet] Knights of Columbus
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org It would benefit if you explained yourself in your posts; so that you can prove show silly you are. Gilbert, I hold no brief for Kevin or the KoC. But may I request you to go easy on the labelling bit? Thought one would be done with this kind of stuff in high school or college :-) Reena Gilbert Lawrence wrote: WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Hi Kevin, It would benefit if you explained yourself in your posts; so that you can prove show silly you are. This is a lot better than your hit-and-run attacks or your smears. I was referring to YOUR standards of decency as an atheist. I then in the very next sentence, went on to compare YOUR standards to my OTHER atheist friends. (see below) Yet with your tunnel anti-Catholic mind, you misinterpret my writings, just like you do the other writings. You compared the standards of my atheist friends with my religious friends, based on your miss-representation. Then shamelessly, you give me your bogus reasoning. Well I am not surprised with your misrepresentations and your explanations. I have mentioned to you this before. Your writings are a comedy, that I could enjoy this weekend. Your response about the Irish continues to be a non-response, that only you can make sense. Why would the Irish join secret societies when they could drink their Guinness in public? What is wrong with joining societies like the Masons, Rotarians, Lions, Elk lodge etc.? George Washington and many founding fathers of the USA were Masons. As regards the KC fighting issues about homosexuality at the behest of the Vatican. Perhaps next, you will write the Evangelicals, Baptists etc. etc. are also stooges of the Vatican. Why would one not expect a Catholic / Christian institution to support biblical teachings? Curiously the immorality of homosexuality is what you specifically did not want your children (under 20 years) to be exposed to. Did your kids call you a stooge of the Vatican? After I finish laughing at your inconsistencies ... I would like to save my neurons for a more logical dialogue. Thank you for the comedy. This is my last post on this thread. Kind Regards, GL -- Kevin Saldanha I am also pleased to know that most of Gilbert's atheist friends have much higher morals and decency standards than his religious ones. He would be pleased to know that these standards were attained by free thinking and contemplation, primarily based on empathy we evolved over the last 6 million years, and were not handed down from a supernatural being carved on stone tablets. Clergy have been admonished for threating ex-communication and denial of the eucharist to parishoners who supported same-sex human rights in contravention of biblical teachings. The KoC has therefore taken it upon themselves to 'fight the good fight' for the faith. -- Gilbert Lawrnce wrote: I asked you a simple question. You did not have an answer. Neither could you give me three to five (or even one) example of KC doing the bidding of the Vatican contrary to the interest of Catholic Americans or America. Do you think American Catholics are unable on their own to evaluate and articulate morality? Your string of anti-Catholic posts, as an ex-Catholic and an atheist, are an insensitive, offensive claptrap. Don't you have any shame? Most atheists I know have much higher morals and decency standards.
Re: [Goanet] konkanism
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Good one, Bhandare! We are like this only :-) Reena C. A. Bhandare wrote: WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Dear All, Another konkaniism favorite is the use of the word only for added emphasis ex: to saamkoch piso would be he is mad only Regards C A Bhandare Arkansas, US Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: [Goanet] C A Bhandare's response
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Beware of wolves, Cecil. They hunt in packs--under different names ofcourse--David, Kamal, Chinmay, Godse, Advani... And yes, in trademark style, they never hesitate to bite the hand that feeds them! Reena Cecil Pinto wrote: WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org C A Bhandare has written to me privately apologising for any embarrassment he might have caused me. He also has a rather convoluted (but seemingly sincere) explanation for the untruthful statement he made, about me helping him edit his postings. I have not responded to C A Bhandare's personal e-mail. This is my response. 1) One does not apologise in private for mischief done in public. That is what cowards do. Therefore unless C A Bhandare apologizes on the same forum (GoaNet) that he made his frivolous statement I will not accept his apology. 2) Unless C A Bhandare clearly identifies himself then neither his statements or his apologies carry any weight. One doesn't respond to anonymous dogs that bark from the dark. One good consequence though of this Bhandare's lie is that our paranoid Gilbert has got himself into a righteous knot trying to figure who is who. Gilbert's suspicious nature doesn't allow him to untie himself as he struggles and makes the knot tighter. Cheers! Cecil ===
Re: [Goanet] Konkani-isms...
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Reminds me of one of my summer vacations in Goa, when an uncle asked a little boy, So, which class have you gone (been promoted) to? I fell in the seventh. (sattventh podlo) Another girl was asked what her parents were doing: They're stitching the house (nolle shinvthai) Reena PS: Pl excuse any mistakes in my Roman lipi! Frederick [FN] Noron ha * ? ?? ?? ? wrote: WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Did you take a bike? my schoolmate and old friend Manguesh, who serves the community here as a polite autoricksha driver, asked me. Took me a moment to realise that this was a literal translation of gaddi ghetlea?, the term used in Konkani when you purchase something new. My chartered-accountant tea-drinking companion at Cafe Prakash often reminds us that the Konkani ugi rao re is acceptable as an expression of disbelief, but it sounds very rude when translated literally into Shut up, men. Konkani has seen the influence of various languages; it also influences various languages. We have read about critics talking about the way Konkani shaped the speaking of Portuguese in Goa (no expertise in that field). English 'shock-absorbers' become chakupsers in Konkani. The bus conductor becomes a cilinder. Cecil Pinto has pointed out that the nightie is widely used as a dress indicating modesty (and keeping the body covered for a lady) not just during the night in Goa. There must be dozens of such local terms. The Hobson-Jobson, a book of Indo-Anglian terms written in pucca British colonial times, also includes some words influenced by Goanisms. For instance, Goa butter comes from the bin'na fruit (kokum). After years I ran into some at the Panjim market. My friend A C Afonso, who lectured at the Dhempe College in the past, was planning a compiliation of Konkani curse words. Must check where that reached Instead of fighting over who's religion is worse off, how about sharing and shedding some light on this issue? Rgds, FN -- FN: Frederick Noronha Phone 0091-832-2409490 http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts
Re: [Goanet] CORRUPTION AND COMMUNALISM.
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org If yes, then bring it to my notice we'll take them to the court Mr Chari, Whom are you kidding here? Reena KAMALAKSH CHARI wrote: http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Averthanus L. D'Souza wrote: Non Hindus are allowed to live here only by sufferance and at the mercy of the RSS. They have no political rights and can claim no privileges. I am surprised with these words. Can you give me the incident from which you have been suffered by RSS. I hope Mr. D'Souza knows Congress Govt. is in power now in Goa and not RSS and that the govt which decides about the policies for the state and its citizens. RSS doesn't hold any position in Govt. affairs. How many Non Hindus have been pained by RSS? Why there is so much outcry about RSS? Have any churches or mosques or any other Non Hindu structure been demolished by RSS? Have they killed or tortured any Non-Hindu? Have you been denied of your rights and duties by this RSS? If yes, then bring it to my notice we'll take them to the court, If No, then please stop this hatred towards RSS for no reason. And RSS won't gain anything by showing the So-called communal VCD. Its just some people dont like to see the cruel tortures made by Portuguese who were Christians by religion on Goans(mostly Hindus who opposed Impelled conversions). Because of this Some christians think that the VCD is anti-catholic, but the truth is its anti-portuguese. Its not movie makers(whom you called rabid RSS movie maker) mistake that Portuguese too were Christians, he cant manipulate those facts. And merely opposing BJP, RSS, VHP and other Hindu Organisations does not put any one in the category of Secualrism. And opposing to that VCD is praising Portuguese rule(destruction of temples, impelled conversions, tortures, etc).
Re: [Goanet] Sentiments expressed against Catholic Goans/Bhandare
--- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Selma, Well said! ;-);-) Reena Carvalho wrote: --- C. A. Bhandare I do not support in writings or deeds or by contributing money any organization which i feel is engaged in dishonest practices Can we say the same about u when it comes to catholic church? Response: Everybody has a right to support whatever organisation they see value in. I don't think I've asked you to support the Catholic Church. As for me, you're obviously new to Goanet or you would know more about my religious leanings.
Re: [Goanet] Fill In The Blanks
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Yeah, Dilip. You couldn't have said it better. Reena Deelip Menezes wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- My great grandfather used to till the soil in someone else's field in Divar. My grandfather bought his own field in Divar and tilled it. Later he took up a job so that he could better educate his children. My father initially helped in the fields and later, thanks to the education he received, worked in the Department of Telecommunications. He left Divar and settled in Porvorim so that I could get a better education. I studied to be a Mechanical Engineer, worked for a couple of years and started my business. I am already big making plans for my three and a half year old son. So why am I telling you all this? Not to worry, there is actually a point to all this. Stay with me. Human beings, by default, improve themselves and the environment they live in. We are designed that way. When our neighbourhood does not have the opportunities or resources to fulfill our needs we move to newer places. It is quite easy to look down on migrants, call them ghantis and wish that they were never here spoiling Goa. Remember they are working hard to provide a better education and better jobs to their kids, just like all our forefather's did. Basically, life is one big game of Fill in the Blanks. We educate our children to be something better than ourselves. In the bargain, we leave a blank in our place. Someone else comes and fills it up. After all, we are also filling up someone else's blank when we go to work abroad. We complain that migrants and outsiders are taking over Goa. Yes, they are. They are simply filling in the blanks created by the Goans who are taking over the Gulf and other countries. Deelip Menezes www.deelipmenezes.com --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] Goa Elections- Edward Silva and Reena's question
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- As such the queston what I would do if i were cathiolic is meaningless As someone said long ago, there are no wrong questions--just wrong answers. Could replace the wrong with meaningless, perhaps? Reena C. A. Bhandare wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Dear Edward, I dont know who JC is. My personal opinion is Parrikar as a administrator is miles ahead in terms of vision and integrity that people like Rane and Ravi. I also think communalism is simply a stick that some people use to beat BJP with, forgetting the record of congress I also am convinced that most BJP MLAs dint make any money inspite of being in power for quite some time Unfortunately they lost this time because they couldnt match the money power of their rivals esp in places like Priol and Pale and sanvordem Further more Parrikar should now concentrate on his core vote bank and stop thinking about development and all because like i said goans doont deserve it As regards Reenas question I know at least one catholic on this forum who is a parrikar Fan another one campaigned for parrikar while at least 2 catholics were BJP candidates As such the queston what I would do if i were cathiolic is meaningless C A Bhandare Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070608/a6b901ce/attachment.htm --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] (no subject)
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Any particular problem that you have with anyone being pro-`Christao', Charudatt? Something that you need help for? So many specialists on this forum, as you'll see. Christao or not ;-) Reena Charudatt Prabhudesai wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Bai Reena, Fred seems to be en F joying N this entire dukor thing. Don't you dig, he is a pro Christao? But so are you, na go? David Padmashree Angelo Khoro Goinkar! _ Tried the new MSN Messenger? Its cool! Download now. http://messenger.msn.com/Download/Default.aspx?mkt=en-in --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] Dukors Like you should get out of Goa !
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Carmo, Through your IIT network, I suppose you're intimately connected with Manohar Parrikar too. Does he have any idea what an ardent supporter he has in you? One who's even prepared to take the rain of brickbats from Goanetters (and God knows who else), for him? ;-) Some devotion, that! Cheers, Reena CARMO DCRUZ wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- From : CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent : Tuesday, June 5, 2007 11:23 PM To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject : Re: Re: Dukors Like you should get out of Goa ! Bonefacio, Altlhough I live in Florida I am intimatey connected with India through my IIT network and through the Indian Natioinal Hockey Camps as I played at national/state levels in the 70s/80s and my coach was Balbir Singh, Sr and Joaquim Carvalho the current India Hockey coach was my schoolmate/ teammate with whom I have attended quite a few national and state level hockey camps/tourneys. Manohar Parrikar may be called to the Center and may be a PM Candidate to replace our erudite PM Dr. Manmohan Singh. Goa's Loss will be India's Gain. I will be closely monitoring those developments too. Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz ex IIT Kharagpur ex Velim, Goa now Indian Harbour Beach, Florida From: Bonefacio Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Bonefacio Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Dukors Like you should get out of Goa ! Date: 5 Jun 2007 19:27:21 - Dear Dr. Carmo, What is food to one may be poision to another, what Parrikar did in 70's is history but we are in the present world of reality , during his term lot's of damage was done to catholics in many ways and this is the reality , we have witnessed how BJP and it's network works, i have nothing wrong with his or your qualification but his behaviour and the party's stand dividing people on religion basis throughout india and other anti-social elements with the help of RSS is not good for goans. There is nothing about Catholics v/s hindus, people don't distinguish this element , such issues come to the forefront only when parties like BJP/RSS make it political for their own gains. Apart from BJP which other party is communal ?(i could be ignorant , if you can throw some light) Dr. Carmo , florida is a great place and you could be very lucky to be there, come down to your motherland , see it for yourself and then pass respectful comments. I have many friends who have met Parrikar and they have their own opinions. Lastly, however much educated one may be , the lust for money, power , greed , jealousy, hatred are the common features in the political field and Parrikar is no saint. I hold no grudge against you for labelling me dukor , i wish you well. You have not apologised as i wanted but never mind someone up there is watching . Bonefacio On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 CARMO DCRUZ wrote : Bonefacio, Manohar Parrikar is a personal friend of mine from our IIT days and he is not a communal guy. In fact he was the is the exact opposite. He even counted an ordained Catholic Jesuit Priest who was a B.Tech student, among his close friends at IIT Bombay in the 70s. He has just shown how fortunate Goa is to have the best educated CM Candidate. His virtues as a CM candidate speak for themselves. India is a multi-religious country with a Muslim PHD as president and a Sikh PHD as Prime Minister - so then we should have BJP in Goa. It should not be an Ami Christao vs Te Kokne scenario in Goa. Undereducated Dukors should have no place in Goa ! They perceive everyone to be Communal because they cannot think better - Have a chat with Manohar and you will realize what a great guy he is ! Dr. Carmo D'Cruz ex IIT Kharagpur, ex Velim Goa mow Indian Harbour Beach, Florida --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to
Re: [Goanet] Goan elections
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Mr Bhandare, You may just be right in saying so. And just out of curiosity, would you vote for the BJP if you stepped into the shoes of a Catholic, for even a day? Cheers Reena Finally the BJP must introspect and try to be a good opposition. They must have realised by now that catholics are never going to support them come what may. Mr Bhandare, You may just be right in saying so. And just out of curiosity, would you vote for the BJP if you stepped into the shoes of a Catholic, for even a day? Cheers Reena C. A. Bhandare wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Election results are finally out and the BJP has lost. Candidates with lots of money power have managed to win these elections and goan people have proved once again that they dont deserve good governance. Now is the time for these veterans to recover their investments. Sadly goan people have lost the right to protest and I for one would not feel even slight discomfort if Goa is sold to the highest bidder The goa bachao andolan and its leaders should also keep quiet and not waste time with vision documents and white papers.They had an opportunity to jump headlong into the fight but they dint and I dont blame them either. Others like Jagrut Goem and Lokshakti should take responsibility for whatever happens in Goa now. Finally the BJP must introspect and try to be a good opposition. They must have realised by now that catholics are never going to support them come what may. It would be fun if they start playing some toppling games for public entertainment C A Bhandare Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] Carmo D Cruz aint mentally sound
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Cedric, Carmo has obviously disowned us, people of Velim. Did you miss his 'ex-Velim' bit as he signs off? ;-) Reena cedric da costa wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- To who ever this DR CARMO D CRUZ is he has no moral right as a Goan to use the word Dukor which is very derogatory. I dont understant how the censor board or even Fredrick Noronha, for whom i have the highest respect in our journalistic fraternity would allow the use of such a word. I sympathise with Bonifacio and appreciate his gentlemanliness...DR CARMO cant people of Velim think with their brains? I and my family have been victims of the BJP's communial games played in the mid 1990s through the then BJP communial agent from Margao Digamber Kamat. i respect manohar Parrikar and have always admired him as a great legislator, but not until he started to behave like a Narendra Modi and a chaddiwallah RSS bhakt. i remember how my father suffered an untimely heartattack due to the political pressure and the lad grabbing of prime land in our hometown margao which our ancestors had meticulously acquired. The BJP under Parikar would even influence the magistrate and the judiciary and the police just because the illegal tenants in our backyard were supporters of Digamber Kamat. Parrikar has had a hand in the Fountainhas property defacing scandal, the bishops palace fiasco, the curhorem riots, the margao riots, the succoro mosque burning scene and many such other scandals. An IIT-ian doent do all that. It is unfortunate that the BJP even got the number seats to even dream of comming together to form the govt. The BJP has been a curse not only to Goans but to India as they started the RAM RAJYA politics and instigated the minorities. Dr Carmo -- your language stink and if you have not learnt to be a gentleman after being an IIT-ian and having a DR against your name, i leave to the people of GOA to attach a title for people like you. I really wonder how you fit into a place like Florida. Regards Cedric da Costa Raindrops Events Management Media-Banking-Events Dubai-UAE _ Play free games, earn tickets, get cool prizes! Join Live Search Club. http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_wlmailtextlink -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070605/f753c920/attachment.htm --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] Re Dukors Like you should get out of Goa !
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Fred, Have you told your little boy about the IIT? On second thoughts, you better start educating him on the neighbouring 'dukors'. Could bring him to Velim to study our dukors there. But what to do, our uncle Carmo (ex-Velim), who appears to have earned a doctorate in that field, has fled to Florida. Which leaves you and your son, with a certain Mr Parrikar, for guidance! Good luck, buddy! Reena Frederick [FN] Noronh a * ? ?? ? ??? ? wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Wot maan Carmo, how wrong could you be on this? It is all us under-educated, badly-educated (thanks to all our politicians and unstatesmen, including your favourite) who remain like gaunvti dukors in Goa! All you'll well-educated guys that go abroad like Yorkshire dukors, leaving us to stew in our own sausages, as it were. Anyway, thanks for adding something light to an otherwise serious day like this. --FN PS: My daughter doesn't like pork because it's too lippery [http://rizagoa.blogspot.com] ... and my son wants to become a train-geneer. Do you think there's some hope? On 05/06/07, CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonefacio, Manohar Parrikar is a personal friend of mine from our IIT days and he is not a communal guy. In fact he was the is the exact opposite. He even counted an ordained Catholic Jesuit Priest who was a B.Tech student, among his close friends at IIT Bombay in the 70s. He has just shown how fortunate Goa is to have the best educated CM Candidate. His virtues as a CM candidate speak for themselves. India is a multi-religious country with a Muslim PHD as president and a Sikh PHD as Prime Minister - so then we should have BJP in Goa. It should not be an Ami Christao vs Te Kokne scenario in Goa. Undereducated Dukors should have no place in Goa ! They perceive everyone to be Communal because they cannot think better - Have a chat with Manohar and you will realize what a great guy he is ! Dr. Carmo D'Cruz ex IIT Kharagpur, ex Velim Goa mow Indian Harbour Beach, Florida -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST) Skype: fredericknoronha Yahoochat: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Email fred at bytesforall.org Res: 784 Saligao 403511 Goa India --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] Sad state of Goan Professionals.
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- I believe she has given up medical practice--as her father himself mentioned. Though I'm not sure of the writing bit. Possible, though. Am still quite surprised at her being a part of this list of doctors supporting Parrikar. Had met her briefly this May and she came across as one who was capable of better. Anyway... Reena Miguel Braganza wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Reena Martins wrote: Miguel, If this is the same Dr Ameeta Mascarehas who lives at Dona Paula, she's also the daughter of Lambert Mascarenhas. Reena . Thanks for the confirmation, Reena. My enquiries reveal that Dr. Ameeta Mascarenhas has given up medical practice and wants to become a writer. State of Confusion? Lambert wrote Sorrowing Lies My Land. I wonder if he had such a situation in mind. Mog asundi. Miguel Mog asundi, MIGUEL BRAGANZA, Mhapsa Horticulturist/Editor/Columnist Botanical Society of Goa --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] Sad state of Goan Professionals.
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Miguel, If this is the same Dr Ameeta Mascarehas who lives at Dona Paula, she's also the daughter of Lambert Mascarenhas. Reena Miguel Braganza wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Dears, The name of one doctor, Dr.Selwyn Albuquerque from Mapusa, appears to be that of my junior in school who used to live near the GFA football ground at Duler, off the main road. I have requested confirmation on our alumni net group. Dr. Ameeta Mascarenhas, MD Paediatrics is listed as Goa resident. She should be traceable at Dona Paula, though I admit that I have never heard of her. So too with Dr. Ajay Yeshwant Pednekar [who is apparently just MBBS or BAHMS as no 'MD' is attached to his name in the advert.] is from Priol and practicing at Mardol. The rest are all NRIs. We need to call the bluff: Parrikar's or of the so-called patriotic [read BJP sympathisers] doctors. Viva Goa. Miguel From: Gabe Menezes Doctors appeal to patriotic Goans RESPONSE: What a bogus advert taken out ! I Googled every single name on the list; not a single one is known ? Either these are a fictitious lot, or they are inconsequential Doctors, hence, I hope the electorate does not pay much heed and takes this with a pinch of salt ! Joe did you try to verify the same ? Just shows, how these corrupt lot, will stoop low, by any means, to pull the wool, over the Goan Electorate ! Next we shall have similar bogus adverts extolling the virtues of the Corrupt Congressmen ! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England On 29/05/07, JoeGoaUk wrote: Parrikar: The right choice for CM:14 NRIs Goan Doctors appeal to patriotic Goans Two full colums wide/long ad regularly appears in Goan Dailies, jointly issued by 14 NRI Doctors (Mostly NRI)of Goa. -- From: Philip Thomas This trick of co-opting NRGs seems similar to what was done by the BJP in Gujarat. There it was to raise funds. Here it is to get testimonials. Hmmm. A full page length column appeal by Global Network of Goan Professionalstitled Goenkaranon jayat zage! which appeared in the Herald on Monday, May 28th., 2007 is a very sad reflection, indeed, on the intellectual status of these Goan professionals, most of whom, appear to be living abroad [Averthan D'Souza] --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] I remember David from Late Rosario Rodrigues Troupe
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Would be grateful if I could get names and contact details of any of the tiatrists and Goan musicians living/practising in Bombay between 1930 and 70. This is for a book that I am working on, on the Goan immigrant in Bombay between the above period. On this note, would also be happy to meet others Goans--from varied walks of life, who could talk about life in Bombay then. Am looking forward to hearing interesting anecdotes and bits of oral history, of what I'd like to think, were the good ole days :-). Reena JoeGoaUk wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- I remember David from Late Rosario Rodrigues Troupe Those of you who are fans of Late Rosario Rodrigues Tiatr late 1970s/80s, will remember his popular team of artistes like Seby, Boby, Vittal, Catus, David etc. Believe me or not, as youngsters, we never missed Rosario Rodrigues Khell-tiatr. I even remember going to Velsao-Danddo (near Velsao Beach) on foot covering about 5 kms from Utorda and our route was Railways tracks passing thru Cansaulim just to watch his FREE show. Some of the earlier Khell-Tiats names I remember are Ekech Ratri (with Carmena), Ami Fator, Naum Naslolo (horror), Uzvadd Paloilo (with Betty Naz) etc (Pl. add more) David was not seen in his recent tiatr nor I remember seeing Bobby, Vittal, Catus and Seby. I also remember some of them working at Margao for banks, Camara (municipality) etc Would appreciate if anyone write a line or two on any of the above (whether still living, why they were not seen in the later tiatr of Rosario Rod or others, whether sick or gone abroad etc) Sadly, David died on 27th May 2007. In the death annoucement ad, it says.. DAVID FRANCISCO RODRIGUES Ex.Konkani Stage Actor Ex. State Bank of India s/o late Filiphino/Natalina (Mazilwado) h/o Loretta b/o Late Rosario Rodrigues (Carmina), Martinho, Maria augusta, Maria Aninha f/o Freizer (Safira) Funeral took place on 28th May 4pm at Holy Trinity Chruch, Benaulim. ( I only read it today, I would have gone for the funeral) MAY HIS SOUL REST IN PEACE. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://thisisgoa.com/ ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] The rain has come : http://rizagoa.blogspot.com/
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Riza's blog was lovely. Would anybody tell me of any other kids out there blogging? In India, I mean. Reena George Pinto wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Very nice kids blog by Riza. Can someone advise about the safety of putting children's pictures with their names on the internet. Are there any predatory, pornography issues with sickos manipulating the information or child predators accessing these sites? One parent told me don't put the name of the child along with a photo or vice-versa. I have not thought through this issue but can someone shed some light. Regards, George --- Frederick \FN\ Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://rizagoa.blogspot.com/ [By Riza, 8-1/2 years old] Sunday, May 27, 2007 The rain has come ... Today morning it rained near my house, and in the whole village. I saw that it rained at 9.30 a.m. At that time, I had just got up, and I dressed and I went to play in the rain -- on the road near my house. With an umbrella. Later, in my garden, I was playing without an umbrella. --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Why tiny Goa /to Frederick
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Seema like it, Selma :-) Reena Carvalho wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- --- Frederick \FN\ Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reena, we were all okay 12 years back (when Goanet got started)... fine guys too! Now, we've just grown old :-) FN PS: Herman Carneiro, are you a Herman Carneiro clone? PPS: Let's hope at least age can insult people into behaving better! - Nostalgia for the good old days, Frederick? :) take care, selma Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Why tiny Goa needs to look into thedeepend of cyberspace
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Herman, That was fantastic. What a welcome break after some of those dialogues that go on ad nauseam :-) Reena Carneiro, Herman wrote: --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- FANTASTIC INPUTS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK... FORGET ABOUT PARRIKAR ETC THIS MIGHT HELP U Might help you all.. CONFIDENCE Once, all village people decided to pray for rain. On the day of prayer all people gathered and only one boy came with an umbrella. That's Confidence TRUST Trust should be like the feeling of a one year old baby when you throw him in the air, he laughs..because he knows you will catch him. That's Trust HOPE Every night we go to bed, we have no assurance to get up alive in the next morning but still you have plans for the coming day. That's Hope HAVE CONFIDENCE, TRUST OTHERS NEVER LOSE HOPE. In Life do the ordinary, GOD will do extra ordinary, Do the natural, GOD will do supernatural Do the possible, GOD will do impossible - Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] FW: Please Pray for My Mom!! (Peter Fernandes - KSA)
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Please be assured of our prayers for your mother--for her healing and the strength for your family in these difficult times. Reena Pascoal Vaz wrote: http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Dear All, I kindly request to my entire friends to pray for my mom who is suffering from a Stomach Cancer, doctor told us that we need to do operation. But chances are very less of survival. Even thou we had decided to go for the operation by keeping everything in God Hands. My mom operation is on Monday. So I need special prayer from all of you to save my mom life. I know only prayer can save my mom life. May God bless you all and my mom. Thanks and regards *PETER .C FERNANDES* *DOCUMENT CONTROLLER* *P.O BOX 1840* *AL KHOBAR, 31952 - K.S.A* *TEL NO. 966-3-882 5288 EXT 1838* *FAX NO. 966-3-882 5354* *MOBILE NO. 00966506935838* *Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070429/6d486f05/attachment.htm --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html ---
Re: [Goanet] A Career in High Tech Entrepreneurship in Goa
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor We need high tech entrepreneurs in Goa - but high tech entrpreneurs are born, not made. If this be so, am wondering what can be said of nut cases--are they too born, if not made? :-) Reena CARMO DCRUZ wrote: http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Bosco, If someone with a BE and MBA wants to become a high tech entrepreneur in Goa, he/she should not be shy to disclose who he/she is and should solve a problem faced by high tech entrepreneurs in Goa and should have some cutting edge ideas of one's own to capitalize on. The career of an entrepreneur is to lead, not follow. We need high tech entrepreneurs in Goa - but high tech entrpreneurs are born, not made. Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz, Associate Professor of Engineering Entrepreneurship, Florida Tech, Melbourne, Florida. Message: 9 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:10:35 -0400 From: Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Career guidance required To: Goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Folks, I received an email from a young individual from Goa who is looking for some career guidance and assistance but does not want his/her name / email address disclosed. The query is: QUOTE I live in Goa. I have a B.E and MBA degree. I am very keen on becoming an entrepreneur. My idea right now is to do something in the manufacturing line. I really need to talk to some right kind of people who can help me. Could you guide? END-QUOTE If somebody can help, please respond with your guidance and information to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The concerned individual would then contact you. Thank you - Bosco -- --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html ---
Re: [Goanet] Is it the same Cornel da Costa?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor I agree. I'm sure there are other ways to make a point. Reena Carvalho wrote: http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor --- Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately we always have some redeeming features and participants. Teotonio R. de Souza --- I think of late I am really beginning to feel disheartened by the sharing of private information and confidences on this very public forum. The fact that almost all of this is done by men, does not speak well of the male Goan species. I think it is one of the unwritten rules of internet forums, atleast one that I follow, that information divulged in private mails should never be made public, much less the entire mail reproduced. selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html ---
Re: [Goanet] Debating opinions instead of grammar
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor I agree. I could still understand Mr Baretto's (oops! Tony Martin) indignation over a faux pas in our mother tongue. But English? Whatever for? :-) Reena Sunith D Velho wrote: http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor But I am very passionate about English and it makes me feel bad when learned people murder it. But you say birds of same feather flop together. The word is flock not flop and the full stop should come inside the quotation. Anthony, It would be in everyone's interest to stick to debating ideas or opinions rather than grammar. We all get what Dr. Barad is trying to say. Minor errors like a wrongly placed full stop hardly qualify as 'murder'. I also think he meant FLOP rather than flock. Looks like you missed the pun. Sunith P.S. As a man 'passionate' about the English language(or is it just the English) you must be aware that it is bad practice to start a sentence with a conjunction(But) and quite unacceptable to start two successive sentences with the same conjunction. P.P.S. It is also usual to follow the conjunction with a comma when used in this way.
Re: [Goanet] MONDAY MUSE: FOUNTAINHEAD!
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Beautiful! Reena Pravin Sabnis wrote: FOUNTAINHEAD! While Lawrence was studying architecture, he went on a cycling expedition to Europe with his friends. The painful period that followed Hitler's occupation of Germany had unleashed a certain terror. Innumerable beautiful as well as painful memories of the tour enriched young Lawrence, who resolved that earning money would not be the motto of his life. He joined as a member of the surgical team of a religious group Quakers and went to China to serve the patients during the World War II.
Re: [Goanet] Wanted: Names of top publications
Philip, There's Derek D'sa, resident editor Times of India, Bombay, who's Goan. Reena Philip Thomas wrote: I would like to have the names of some top Indian (non-Goan) publications, with editors/deputy editors who are Goan, for personal correspondence purposes. Thanks.
Re: [Goanet] Goans ARE ALL Born for Greater Things !
This even beats Nasci Caldeira, the guy who seems to have disappeared down under. Just hope I haven't spoken too soon :-) Reena CARMO DCRUZ wrote: Hi Francis, Victor Menezes, A Goan and the former CEO of Citibank was an IIT Graduate Manohar Parrikar, also a Goan who will soon become Chief Minister of Goa again was an IIT Graduate. A 1975 Junior National Bombay Hockey Goalkeeper from Velim, Goa and a 1992 Probable who tried out for the US Olympic Hockey Team and got his Doctorate in Engineering Management was also an IIT Graduate The Jesuit Provincial of Western India is also an IIT Graduate. Many of the CEOs of today's Global Companies are IIT Graduates - I could go on and on.. Do You Think All these high achiever, exceptional individuals are delusional/reclusive/suicidal online ? How many Crate-carrying Gulfies or PET-carrying Shippies have you come across who are delusional/ reclusive/suicidal ? Why do you concentrate on only the negative press from these exceptional institutes - the IIT which have been the pride of India ? Are you concerned about being relegated to the lower rungs of Goan Society when high achieving Goans graduate from the IIT and fly to North America on Academic sholarships and High end jobs ? We have seen all kinds of students in IITs (they are reflective of the national population) - but the common characteristic is that they are high achievers ! So at what levels did you play sports and what levels did you attain in Education ? Was it Doctorate Level in Studies and National Level in Sports - Why or Why not ? When Manohar Parrikar becomes the Chief Minister of Goa again in a couple of months, you can be rest that IIT Coaching classes will be initiated all over Goa and there will be a concerted effort to stuff the IITs with Goan students ! Viva Goa ! Viva Parrikar ! Viva ! Viva ! Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz, Goan, IITian Indian Harbour Beach, Florida From: Francis Rodrigues Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:23:34 + Dear Carmo, You've prob. seen both of today's separate reports on IIT Mumbai and IIT Chennai. Is it possible that all IIT alumni are particularly delusional/reclusive/suicidal online? Here's the 1st report, next follows. Way to go, dude! Francis.
Re: [Goanet] Request for prayers
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Yes, please assure your friend of my prayers. Reena John DSouza wrote: * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. A friend of mine is going through a difficult patch in her life right now. I know she could use and will appreciate all the prayers she can get.Do spare her a thought during your prayers. The results of her treatment will be known within the next 6 - 8 months. Thanks a million. John F. D'Souza Moderator Margao-Net ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Re: [Goanet] Konkani word for bougainvillea please
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. I've heard the bougainvillea being called petroli fulam. Reena Alfred de Tavares wrote: In Goa, it is most commonly known as Carmel... Karmeli-fulam.
Re: [Goanet] The much maligned Gulfie
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Well said! Reena Carvalho wrote: I've just about had it with the constant maligning of the so-called Gulfie.
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Educational system
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Selma, Are you serious? Reena Selma writes: It is those hapless fellows that make their way to the Gulf or work onboard ships. Instead, they should stay in Goa serving cocktails andmocktails to lager louts, so that their children will be inspired er motivated to do better in school.
Re: [Goanet] Bebdos Cricket
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Flat for Sale: Mapuca, Goa (Ansabhat) - 10 min walk to Mapuca Market 2 Bedroom-Living-Dining-Kitchen-Bath-Balcony-Terrazo Floors Great Investment - Winter Getaway Asking Canadian $ 31,500/- or Indian Rs 10 lakhs Contact Rosario Fernandes - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah! Couldn't believe my ears for a bit. Felt good hearing Lorna. Was also amusing to see the lyrics and visuals match--to whatever extent. Reena Clinton Vaz wrote: * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Flat for Sale: Mapuca, Goa (Ansabhat) - 10 min walk to Mapuca Market 2 Bedroom-Living-Dining-Kitchen-Bath-Balcony-Terrazo Floors Great Investment - Winter Getaway Asking Canadian $ 31,500/- or Indian Rs 10 lakhs Contact Rosario Fernandes - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anybody else noticed that the Cricket World Cup advertisement by Nike currently shown on telly has a modified version of Lorna's Bebdo song in the background? Nice to hear a Konkani song on national tv! :) Clinton.. Benaulim,Goa -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/697 - Release Date: 22/02/2007 11:55
Re: [Goanet] [EMAIL PROTECTED]/to Nasci
WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to: Nodal Officer District Collector (Goa) Mr. Nikhil Kumar Office: 2223612; Residence (after 8PM): 2420710; mobile 9822123071 I think it may be a bit too late for Nasci to turn a new leaf. So could we entrust the job of taming this shrew to the Goanet moderators? Will do us all a big favour. Reena Alfred de Tavares wrote: WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to: Nodal Officer District Collector (Goa) Mr. Nikhil Kumar Office: 2223612; Residence (after 8PM): 2420710; mobile 9822123071 From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] [EMAIL PROTECTED]/to Nasci Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:47:52 -0800 (PST) --- Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Radha, What about Swami's and Mullahs and Bhuddu Monks! They say 'Pigs do not eat Pigs' (their own kind!) Do you eat and relish Pork! Just asking! Nasci Caldeira. - Dear Nasci, In the name of God, can you please restrain yourself for once? Your commentary is truly embarrassing to every self-respecting, secular Goan on this forum. You are more than welcome to criticise aspects of religion you find offensive, but why do you have to be personally insulting to all the Hindus on this forum? It's not right, it's not decent and it's not Christian. And last but not not least if you are going to be bigoted, then atleast be an informed bigot. That statement would only be offensive to Muslims not Hindus. Thank you, selma Please pay heed to what so many are requesting you, Nasci. Your senseless outbursts are turning really embarassing, very demeaning. Do you obtain any pleasure, fulfillment with such absurd taunts? Do us a favour and lay off! Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, 2007-01-11 _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to 24-hour Helpline +91 9822684372 WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to 24-hour Helpline +91 9822684372
Re: [Goanet] Paedophiles in GOA- A BBC Report
WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to: Nodal Officer District Collector (Goa) Mr. Nikhil Kumar Office: 2223612; Residence (after 8PM): 2420710; mobile 9822123071 Eddie, My observation of the elephant (in cameo in the pic accompanying the BBC story) was not to indicate disbelief in the story. Was just not sure if having the poor beast squeezed in, had anything to do with the 'elephant and snake charmer' stereotype of India and Indians in India :) As for the issue of child prostitution and paedophiles, as Fred says, it has been done to death, at least in the local and national media--not to say that it becomes any less important because of that. While I'm glad to see the kind of debate the BBC report has thrown up, am just wondering if a similar report in the local media would have brought out anything vaguely similar. Reena Frederick \FN\ Noronha wrote: WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to: Nodal Officer District Collector (Goa) Mr. Nikhil Kumar Office: 2223612; Residence (after 8PM): 2420710; mobile 9822123071 Paedophilia is, and has been, an issue in Goa. Right from the time of Freddy Peat (1993) to Mayabhushan and team's capture of the sad issue on film. But the way it is often handled by the media has more to do with the media priorities of getting a story from a fashionable tourist destination at peak season, rather than the seriousness of the problem. On 09/01/07, Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is much I could write about the reactions of Fred and Reena. I am also amazed at Reena's facetious remarks about elephants in Goa. However, I am convinced that neither has listened to the radio report so could they please do so and let us know if they wish to change their views after doing so? Reena, being from Salcete, probably doesn't appreciate the manner in which out-of-place elephants are brought in to places like Anjuna to parade gullible tourists at a fee! But her comment on the elephant doesn't mean she's off-clued generally about the wider issue of paedophilia in Goa, media priorities in reporting the issue. Or, there being nothing new in an issue that has been beaten to death since the late 'nineties ... and the regular near-sensationalist revival of this concern even while there is little done to tackle in its seriousness. PS: I am also in daily communication with the parents of Stephen Bennett who was murdered last month in very mysterious circumstances. They are This is a serious issue. We have still not understood why someone would want to kill Benett in Goa. Of course, with the way local mafias work here, anything is possible. But there is still a lot more than meets the eye. Anyone who has reported about Goa would also acknowledge that the life of a foreigner is valued (here and elsewhere) much more higher than that of a local (where life is cheap). My journo friends in Thailand were saying the same is true when it came to deaths among foreign tourists during the tsunami. There, the 'pecking order' in the world of reporting was the King's nephew at the very top, followed by foreign tourists (small numbers, but disproportionate coverage) and locals at the very bottom! planning to visit Goa next week. The Goa newspapers have been strangely silent on the issue. If someone said that the crime happened closer to Mumbai, and that Goa papers tend to be both small in operation and small in their vision (specially when it comes to investing resources in reporting... probably one would get accused of defending sloppiness in the Goa media! But that's the reality, though it's easy to get carried along by the priorities set by the powerful and influential media organisations of the West! FN -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T
Re: [Goanet] Paedophiles in GOA- A BBC Report
I hope you didn't miss the elephant behind the bus-- in the second picture of the paedophile story on the BBC website (your first link)! Elephants roaming the streets of Goa? Not so sure. Reena Eddie Fernandes wrote: From: Roland Francis Another latest BBC link on the subject. Is this getting to be a real Goa problem? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6230957.stm Note: The article is a synopsis of the radio programme broadcast last Friday. To listen to the 25 min. broadcast go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/worldservice/meta/tx/docu3?nbram=1; nbwm=1size=aulang=en-wsbgc=003399 Eddie Fernandes On 1/6/07, Noronha,Ronald [Ontario] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Global Account ** A set of free-standing documentaries from the BBC that uncover the secrets that those in positions of authority would prefer to stay hidden. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/programmes/documentary_archive/6232043 .stm -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070108/847a4def/attachment.html
Re: [Goanet] Goa minister resigns - will CBI raids follow?
Well said! Reena Radhakrishnan Nair wrote: On reading that Babush Monserrate had resigned, the first thought that came to my mind was whether or not CBI raids would follow! Isidore Fernandes was reined in with the help of the CBI. There were also rumours that Digambar Kamat was threatened with raids, if he did not join the Congress Party, before he left the BJP. CBI is a good tool in the hands of the ruling party at the Centre!! Naguesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only the corrupt ones and criminals have to fear the CBI. They can't touch you if your hands clean. It may well be the case that those threatened with CBI raids deserve to be behind bars. -- RKN
Re: [Goanet] The Goan crab mentality other Goan expressions
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2006 Christmas - Two Packages available from EXPRESSIONS http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ Good one! What about, She's dark but has nice features.:)) Reena Carvalho wrote: * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2006 Christmas - Two Packages available from EXPRESSIONS http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ Speaking of expressions peculiar to Goa, here is one I've always found fascinating. She is a homely girl. Now, only in Goa does this expression mean the girl is happiest serving pattices and making miskut while simultaneously massaging her father-in-law's feet and feeding the pet dog, whitey. This phrase used anywhere else in the world will earn you (to use another Goan expression), one tight slap or fattak. The word homely in general parlance means unattractive and shorn of embellishment. Here is another phrase commonly used in Goa that I find intriguing. She's a simple girl. Why is this phrase used as a compliment? When did it become fashionable for a girl to be a simpleton? Why shouldn't girls be eccentric, opinionated, forward, smart, glamourous, anything but simple? selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Our dresses
* * * 2006 ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET - GOA * * * WHERE: Foodland Cafe - Miramar Residency - Miramar, Goa WHEN: December 21, 2006 @ 4:00pm More info: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-December/051412.html I fully agree with Selma here. What was that famous line about casting the first stone? Reena Carvalho wrote: * * * 2006 ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET - GOA * * * WHERE: Foodland Cafe - Miramar Residency - Miramar, Goa WHEN: December 21, 2006 @ 4:00pm More info: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-December/051412.html --- Albert Desouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends We can judge the character of a lady in what and how she dresses. Dear Albert, No you really can't judge a woman's character by what she chooses to wear. What may seem immodest to you maybe just fashionable or trendy to another person. I agree with you that a certain amount of modesty is a good thing, but I think that should be an individual decision rather than the job of the morality police, unless ofcourse we are bordering on public indecency. selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] need adress n tel nos of Mr Julio Reberio
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Raju, You could try Mr Ribeiro on the following numbers: 0222-4939189/9978/9 or 022- 56608350 I hope they all work! Good luck Reena raju gonsalves wrote: * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear readers, Can someone help me with the adress and telephone nos of mr julio reberio, ex police chief, ADGP. IPS. i need to send him an invitation for the 10th horse show in Gujarat, at the R D Jhala riding club, mounted police unit, bhavnagar gujarat. His contribution to this Paddock is remembered. rgds. Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the New Yahoo.com (http://www.yahoo.com/preview) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] A woman without a culture of her own
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Nasci, Maybe you could do with a few lessons in politeness/tact/diplomacy? This is a public forum, I'm sorry to remind. Reena Nasci responds: Cornel,:-), :-) How dare you try to 'go as wheatish' when I see you with Gabe and Co. in a photo published thru goanet some three months ago! In that pics U are so dark that I thought you were Idi Amin's bro'.:-) :-) Until I looked again and found that it was you, the 'thinks great' Cornel! ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] On this auspicious day .............. Part I
JoeGoa, I haven't come across a more beautifully worded and touching prayer--ever. Am sure even God feels the same, each time he hears it! Reena JoeGoaUk wrote: On this auspicious day In this world, wealth/money is not every thing. No one is perfect, every one needed something or the other. Sometimes, such needs are not told to others or may not visible to others and may be kept top secrets between you and the God. Sometimes, we have every thing yet we long or ask more.. Some one rightly said, 'Human wants are insatiable' Here I am sending you my same old Short sweet Prayer which I say for about 20 years now. I also wrote a letter to God, last year - See link below. MY personal PRAYER. SAIBA TUKA CHODD DEU BOREM KORUM MAKA SODNDAMKAL KHUXAL DOVORLA MUNN. SAIBA, JEM AUM TUJE LAGIM SODANCH MAGOT AILAM, ZATA ZALEAR TEM MAKA ANTAM DI. PUNN TORUI ASTONA, MHOJEA ON CHODD GOROZ ASLOLEANK POILEM DI. MAKA UPRANT DILEAR ZATA. I must admit, I am not very good at translation, so here somewhat like this.. LORD THANKS FOR EVERYTHING. LORD, DO GIVE ME NOW WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKING YOU THROUGHOUT MY LIFE. HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHOSE NEEDS ARE MORE URGENT THAN ME, YOU MAY GIVE THEM FIRST. That's it! I don't say anything else. On this day, last year, I wrote a letter to GOD, you may read it here.. http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/message/266 OR http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2005-October/034792.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Teresa Albuquerque and thanks to Reena Martins
Roland, I'm glad you enjoyed chatting with Teresa-she is that kind of person-very warm, resourceful and a very good guide. I always come back refreshed and a wee bit wiser, after speaking to her! I don't know if you've read her book, Urbs Prima in Indis-which I found really good. Reena Roland Francis wrote: Reena, much appreciate your assistance and direction to getting Teresa Albuquerque's books. Spoke to her in Bombay a few minutes ago and asked for her to send all her 10 books. She mentioned that she has written 10 so far, 2 under publishing. She seems like a Goan no-nonsense Susan B Anthony, but much kinder. We spoke about several things and she mentioned that you had once interviewed her. Her main interest is Goan migration and has written books about Goans in Kenya, Bombay and elsewhere. She is writing a sequel to her Vasai (Bassein) book. She mentioned she was from Anjuna and has written a book about the history of the Anjuna Church with photos of the artifacts in it. That's really odd, as my late uncle was the pastor (parish priest) in that church for many years (he is a Lotlekar like our Alfred Tavares) and I have memories of his showing me with great reverence the souvenirs (is that the word I am looking for?) of Blessed Pe Agnel Vaz who was from Anjuna. It has great pictures she said, which I immediately thought of as grist for the Goan Cyber Museum. Wonder of wonders, she is neither a historian nor of any other profession, only (sorry that's not the right word) a housewife (and she says that proudly) with 6 or 7 children some of them in this part of the world. I look forward to reading her books, thanks again to you. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet writers
And reading you, Selma, brings to mind Joan of Arc! Hats off to you for taking on the guys! More power to your pen. Reena Carvalho wrote: The Goanet writers: Reading Arnold Noronha is like reading Dostoevsky. One is reminded of those bleak Russian winters. Reading Alfred de Tavares is like reading Coleride. Water, water, everywhere and I want every precious drop to drink (to slighly misquote Coleride) Reading Cecil Pinto is like reading Lord Byron. Mad, Bad and dangerous to know. With apologies to Lady Caroline Lamb. Reading Frederick Noronha is like reading Amartya Sen interviewing Bill Gates. The Political Economy of megabytes. Reading Roland Francis is like reading Somerset Maugham. The Flotsam and the Jetsam made interesting by the skill of the pen. Reading Mario is like reading the US Republican Political manifesto dictated by Cheney and typed out by Anne Coulter. Reading Gilbert is like reading Egyptian hieroglyphics before they found the Rosetta stone. I love reading all of you (sorry if I've missed someone) :)) Selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Of Myths and Kanneos
Roland, If you do not get Teresa Albuquerque's book, you could request her to send it to you. Her residence number in Bombay, is 0222- 6499005. If you can't get her there, she could be in Goa, in which case you could contact her on 0832-2273676. She's recently written a fantastic book on the history of Vasai, a far flung western suburb of Bombay, which under the Portuguese rule was called Bacaim. It's worth a read. Reena Roland Francis wrote: Gilbert, could you please tell us where the book may be bought. I would definitely be interested in reading it. Not from a health point of view (though who knows, I may be converted to old ladies' ways) but merely reading about stuff I didn't get the opportunity to be a part of, like you presumably did, on account of being a city slick and all. For Fred Noronha: I know that some of the books written by Goans that you mention from time to time may be available from Jerry's and Norma's (is it called the Old Goa bookstore) in Mapuca via a hardcopy catalog request. However does anyone maintain a cyber catalog comprehensively listing all books written by Goans in all parts of the world, contemporary and past with info on how to get them? For example I read the chapter on the Goa Inquistion written by Alfred D'Mello (son of the famous Froilano D'Mello) on Jose Colaco's website. It made for such rapt reading that it would be foolish not to read the whole book. I wrote to the email address of the author, but it seems that it was an old one as my note got bounced. The Goa Inquisition has me hooked. I am gleaning info from many websites on the subject and the more I read, the more my attention is drawn to the subject. It seems a fact that the inquisition in Goa was one of, if not the most cruel in the entire infamous history of the inquisitions anywhere in the world and I grieve for my Hindu ancestors who had to endure it. I sympatize with an RSS call for the Pope to apologize for it, just as the Church finally apologized to the Jews, the call made in retaliation for the visiting Pope's call to Indian officials to loosen up on the anti-conversions laws of today's India. Another one of definite interest to me would be Theresa Albuquerque's book on the history of Bombay and Bombay Goans. Really good stuff from synopses I read some time ago. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Mayem Lake, Arvalem Caves, Waterfall etc etc (Plus prev. Answer)
Helga, You could look it up on the Timeout website (www.timeout.com). But I must warn you that it is paid site! Reena Helga do R. Gomes wrote: Hi Fred, I looked at your photos and they are great - National Geog. standard! You guys should know that Smithsonian Magazine has a competition every year with categories like People, Nature etc. In the meantime it would be great if we could come up with a common tag for your and JoeUK's excellent photos so goanetters and their friends could browse and decide what they want to do and see in Goa. Otherwise everyone ends up at the same old places! You once sent an email with suggestions of small restaurants especially in the Novas Conquistas. I cant find the email now although I though I saved it. Also while we are on the subject VM de Malar published some great articles in Time Out Mumbai (Dec 2005 issue) which recommend some excellent restaurants (even a Burmese one) and historic sites like the little known Croatian chapel in Cumbarjua which I visited quite by chance for a funeral. How do you get this issue of Time Out? Good Question! Let's leave it to Fred and VM! Helga Great idea, Helga. We could decide on some common tags. And then suitably change those for whoever wants to join in. We could also build a photolist on Flickr. Maybe we could call it *Goanet*, to make the network identifiable among people connected with Goanet. FN PS: My collection is close to 5000 (many linked to Goa, but I've ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Take your supporters, and your religious wars, elsewhere
Dear Cecil, I fully agree with you on the fact that this whole religion bit on Goanet is, indeed, getting pretty sickening.. to put it mildly. I've even beginning to wonder whether it was the sole objective behind starting Goanet. Maybe its time our 'intellectual' companions sought a separate forum to settle scores and show one upmanship on topics related to Hitler (RIP) and the 'rock solid moral code'- with or without God (poor guy must be going red in the face reading these posts!). Would really give the rest of us a well deserved break. I've reached a point, that when I see the names of certain Goanet posters in my inbox, I promptly delete their posts, not wishing to waste my time and get bored out of my mind.. they're that predictable and narrow, even in their so called wit. Fred, could you suggest ways in which we contribute our mite to doing something concrete for Goa (through Goanet) , from wherever we are? There are enough of issues plaguing our beautiful land-drugs, alcoholism, prostitution, HIV/AIDS... the litany could go on.. Reena Cecil Pinto wrote: * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Mario Goveia wrote regarding Santosh Helekar's 'support group': As far as I can tell, those who usually support your line of thinking include, but may not be limited to, Gabe, Cornel, George, Francis, Aristo, Marlon, Mervyn, RKN, Jose and Selma. -- From a relatively neutral point of view I think Mario is winning the debate. He has enumerated Santosh's support group as consisting of just 10 supporters. Now even if these 10 supporters had 10 supporters (silent or otherwise - but no duplication allowed) each, that would still be only 100 supporters out of 10,000 subscribers on GoaNet i.e. just one percent supporting Santosh. Not that democracy is the best method to decide these matters. But I would suggest someone now makes a list of Mario's supporters. All those who agree with his arguments and convictions. Once that figure has been arrived at and all involved have cast their vote, and stated where they stand, then I have a suggestion. All of you please start a fresh new Yahoo Group where you discuss only matters of religion and American politics. And leave us others to discuss Goa related issues. Its getting too sickening. Evangelical atheism is as irritating as blind faith in Church dogma. I know so many intelligent and articulate subscribers who don't participate in Goan Cyberspace because of the constant wars between The Knights of the Church and The Godless Ones. Leave us alone to discuss Goa! Cheers! Cecil == ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Plutoed - my hopes for salvation
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Well said, Arnold. I've been meaning to say just this for sometime now. Have been a silent spectator to many a spat on GoaNet.. and often reaches sickening heights. Also sad, because there's so much of talent and great brains floating around- which makes me wonder if we really need to go on and on-arguing ourselves silly, when we could put ourselves to better use. I used to hear of the infamous Goan trait of pulling the other down--this forum teems with examples that prove just this, if not more. But I must admit, that GoaNet has, somewhere, got under my skin. Some of the posters do have a terrific sense of humour. Some others turn out funny, quite unintentionally! Cheers! Reena, Bombay Arnold Noronha wrote: * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. It is observed that Goanet is rampant with unsavory diatribes, personal attacks and put-downs which tend to vitiate the quality of debates and deflect the focus from the real issues. If Goanet's post circle can be compared in hyperbole to the Knights of the Round Table we have way too many Modreds and not enough Lancelots and Galahads. Let's make the environment more benign in order to avoid the appearance of animosity. In GoaNet's august word exchangeMart when opinions and facts are far apart let's avoid vile language hurtful and tart hurling affront and slur like a vicious dart for such behavior belittles Writing's Art Cheers Arnold ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
