Re: [Goanet] “nudism” in Dr. Pereira’s paint ings and criticism of Laxman’s ‘Last supper ’ Carton - In which century are we living?

2010-07-30 Thread Pandu Lampiao
I say post the pictures on flickr.
Its the new way to reach everyone out there. Let the audience
judge..this is not really boundary pushing art is it? Nudity in art
has been around since our forefathers shacked up in caves.

Sorry ole Hussain is roaming in some god forsaken desert because of
someone who has never been to a gallery, let alone seen a work of art
is protesting his work. I heard an interview with a fundamentalist
leader in NYC (could barely speak a grammatically correct sentence let
alone get a clear idea across) saying he had never seen the pieces of
Hussain, yet protesting. I think the program was CBC's Dispatches
(cbc.ca/dispatches).

There is currently a debate in the arts world on the 'dressing up'
Susan Mogul art video on utube ...see the links below. Note, the
subject is 'mature'

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/arts-news/youtube-censors-art/

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D-Jxwi2l7NrE

On 29 July 2010 10:02, Dr.Nandkumar Kamat nandka...@... wrote:

 “nudism” in Dr. Pereira’s paintings and Laxman’s ‘Last supper’ Carton

 In which century are we living?

 What is superior?. The creative impulse of the artist who has no axe to
 grind with any religions of human origin OR the label of religion which is
 stuck on his forehead?

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[Goanet] “nudism” in Dr. Pereira’s paint ings and criticism of Laxman’s ‘Last supper ’ Carton - In which century are we living?

2010-07-29 Thread Dr.Nandkumar Kamat
“nudism” in Dr. Pereira’s paintings and Laxman’s ‘Last supper’ Carton

In which century are we living?

(Then Jesus said, Father forgive them, for they know not what they doLuke
23:24)

( Avidnyatam vijanatam, vidnyatam avijanatam- Kathopanishada – “those who
think that they no nothing , understand everything  but those who claim to
know everything know nothing)

What is superior?. The creative impulse of the artist who has no axe to
grind with any religions of human origin OR the label of religion which is
stuck on his forehead?

Is it the religious denomination of the artist which has started bothering
some of the critics, the agitators, the fascist forces, the self styled
censors?

ARTIST AS A *'CHRISTIAN'*

Crystallized and personified innocence-the wise man among the Goans-his name
in this mortal existence-Jose Pereira, religious label -Roman Catholic is
hated because ‘nudism in his paintings’.

ARTIST AS A *'HINDU'*

Another giant of an artist -who took the brush from the classes to the
common masses-R.K.Laxman, a Hindu in his mortal existence is taken to the
task for reinvention of  ‘Last supper’. I thought after viewing the cartoon
that Lord Jesus would have approved it. The central message of the cartoon
is universal message of Christianity and true Roman Catholicism. It all
depends on what one reads from the cartoon-there are layers of meaning and
interpretation but it is a modern masterpiece.

HE would have said after noticing criticism of Laxman-‘ God

What if a controversial, non conformist  Goan painter Francis Newton Desouza
or our own Mario Miranda were to draw that cartoon?. Perhaps a different
yardstick would have been used…

So what we have now are two unwanted controversies…do these make any real,
logical, objective sense, especially to those who are well read in history
of religions and art ?

'HINDU ART ' BY A 'CHRISTIAN 'ARTIST

Take opposition to Josebab’s paintings. I did not find anything
objectionable because I am a serious student of Indian philosophy, art,
architecture, vedic and non vedic Hinduism. I had given two public lectures
in Marathi at Margao on Vatsyayana’s Kamasutra ( the first ever in history
of Goa) in front of a sizeable middle class Goan audience without any
controversy. These were organized by Sanskrit Pracharini Sabha, Margao
devoted to promotion of world’s oldest and richest language.

If nudism in Josebab’s paintings is opposed because it  injures the Hindu
sentiments  and is  considered vulgar by those who claim to be the self
styled guardians of Hinduism, then by the same yardstick all the aniconic
temples of Lord Siva/ Rudra/Mahadeva which have installed the Lingams, his
sculptures depicting him as mahayogi (urdhva-retas-one who could reverse the
flow of sacred semen) and the whole cult of Matrika or nude mother goddess
worship could also attract  a ban/opposition. What about plain erotic verses
in Kalidas’s Ritusamhar and in Jaideva’s Gitagovindam?. And closer to the
headquarters of the radical Hindus-Marathi scholar R.C.Dhere’s classical
Marathi monograph –Lajjagauri (the nude goddess)?.  Would the constitution
of India permit free artistic expressions or promote revisionism?

Would the radical Hindu forces also demand ban on procession of Naga sadhus
and elaborate description given by Marathi novelist Go.Ni.Dandekar of their
strange rituals?

Would the radical Hindu forces demand a total ban on sub-continent’s tantric
traditions?

Having born in an orthodox Hindu Brahmin family, after having studied
Sanskrit and original works on Hinduism, I discovered by the time I became a
graduate, that my Hinduism is not just a religion, a label or a denomination
to me-it is a complex, religious, assimilative, liberal cultural  ecosystem.
It has no single leader, no single sacred text, neither a founder and it
doesn’t get dogmatic about its’ texts. It anticipates the rise of new
prophets and religions and is prepared to coexist with them. It says –“ekam
satyam vipra bahudha vadanti’ (the wise people say the same thing in
different manner). Unfortunately it drifted terribly after the Buddhist
resurgence and Islamic onslaught from its’ noble upanishadic roots.

Josebab’s paintings is a tribute to all encompassing spirit of Hinduism. He
is a very humble man. His artistic consciousness had launched him in a time
machine and that’s what he experienced as if in a tantric trance. A
composite reading of all his work pertaining to Indian cultural ethos would
convince anyone born as a Hindu that his paintings is a service, an artistic
interpretation and not a defamation.

Josebab’s nude paintings would attract a massive response at Benares,
Vrindavan, Gaya, Kanchipuram, Bhubaneshwar, Tanjore, Baroda, Gauhatti if
exhibited there…

There is something basically very wrong in the way Josebab’s paintings have
been attacked…probably the paintings, or the exhibition is not the real
target, the Jesuit managed XCHR is, could be, it is for CID, IB to
investigate…after all Porvorim is 

Re: [Goanet] “nudism” in Dr. Pereira’s paint ings and criticism of Laxman’s ‘Last supper ’ Carton - In which century are we living?

2010-07-29 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 29 July 2010 10:02, Dr.Nandkumar Kamat nandka...@gmail.com wrote:

 “nudism” in Dr. Pereira’s paintings and Laxman’s ‘Last supper’ Carton

 In which century are we living?

 (Then Jesus said, Father forgive them, for they know not what they doLuke
 23:24)

 ( Avidnyatam vijanatam, vidnyatam avijanatam- Kathopanishada – “those who
 think that they no nothing , understand everything  but those who claim to
 know everything know nothing)

 What is superior?. The creative impulse of the artist who has no axe to
 grind with any religions of human origin OR the label of religion which is
 stuck on his forehead?

 Is it the religious denomination of the artist which has started bothering
 some of the critics, the agitators, the fascist forces, the self styled
 censors?

 ARTIST AS A *'CHRISTIAN'*

 Crystallized and personified innocence-the wise man among the Goans-his
 name
 in this mortal existence-Jose Pereira, religious label -Roman Catholic is
 hated because ‘nudism in his paintings’.

 ARTIST AS A *'HINDU'*


RESPONSE: Very nice portrayal of what should be; unfortunately the Victorian
British has forever changed the mindset of the present Hindu. Will take
perhaps at least 50-75 years to get back to the basics.
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

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