Re: [Goanet] How the NRI has fallen from grace

2009-08-23 Thread lyrawmn


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I. Nunes responds to mmendonz...@gmail.com: 
 

The Indian diaspora is upwards of 20 million.
[World Bank estimates US$ 52 billion in remittances to India for 2008.This 
excludes gold and gems.]
 

Intuitively it would appear  that Indians working in the Gulf countries would 
tend to remit more as they will always be gastarbeiters or  guest workers, 
never attaining full citizenship irrespective of their tenure. 
Whereas Indians in the Western countries would be more likely to emigrate with 
their families, obviating the need for most remittances.
 
Not quite so.
 
Just to put matters in the correct perspective  - the Reserve Bank of India 
perspective:
 
In the last RBI study (2006) of remittances by NRIs with breakdown by source 
country found:
N. America accounted for 44%,
Gulf Countries 24%
Europe   13%
East Asia 8%
S. America   6%
Africa       2%
other    3%
 

Reported in RBI Bulletin: 
http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/Bulletin/PDFs/74250.pdf
 
These additional reported facts might interest you:

 
1.   The Hindu Business section at  

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2006/08/09/stories/2006080905091900.htm
 
reported:
a.    AP received the highest NRI remittances, with Maharastra second in 2006.
b.    The US and Saudi Arabia were the largest sources of workers' remittances 
to developing countries.  [Not just in India]
 
2.   Rediff.com/money in their September 05, 2007 article:
NRI remittance: How it is invested  reported
 
 About 13 per cent of the funds remitted by Non-Resident Indians (NRIs) in 
2006 were invested in equity and real estate. 
While 20 per cent of the funds are parked in bank deposits, 54 per cent of 
remittances are used to meet family expenses, according to a Reserve Bank of 
India.  
best, 
I. Nunes.

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com
Subject: [Goanet] How the NRI has fallen from grace
To: goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 11:19 AM

lyrawmn :
Do you think Mr. Swapan Dasgupta is aware that NRIs remitted US $24.6
billion in 2005-6 and US$ 43.5 billion 2007-8 according to the Reserve Bank
of India? [Reported by?the Financial Express in India.]This is estimated to
be about 3% India's GDP.

Response:
Just to put matters in proper perspective. The bulk of foreign remittances
come from Indians working in the Gulf and not from those settled in USA or
the West.

Regards,

Marshall



  


[Goanet] How the NRI has fallen from grace

2009-08-20 Thread Marshall Mendonza


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 lyrawmn :
Do you think Mr. Swapan Dasgupta is aware that NRIs remitted US $24.6
billion in 2005-6 and US$ 43.5 billion 2007-8 according to the Reserve Bank
of India? [Reported by?the Financial Express in India.]This is estimated to
be about 3% India's GDP.

Response:
Just to put matters in proper perspective. The bulk of foreign remittances
come from Indians working in the Gulf and not from those settled in USA or
the West.

Regards,

Marshall


[Goanet] How the NRI has fallen from grace

2009-08-17 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil
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Will be re-released after 30 years on August 21, 2009 at 5:15pm
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-

Entertaining article by Swapan Dasgupta  in yesterday's TOI on NRIs. See

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/right-and-wrong/entry/how-the-non-resident-indian

The last two paras are pasted below.

---

The average NRI’s fall from grace in India has been precipitate. The
vacuous condescension that marked earlier attitudes has been replaced by
desperation to find some accommodation somewhere. The big NRI players
have no problem — they have seen their social worth in the West keep
pace with India’s soaring reputation as a rising power. But the small
fish whose tie and a twang once enabled him to lord over his less
fortunate brethren in India has seen envy replaced with disinterest.

To the NRI confronted with a precarious descent into obscurity, there is
only a small solace: interventions on the net. Taking advantage of a
more connected world, the professional NRI (who knows no other identity)
has stepped up his battles to cast India in his own confused image. No
Indian website is free from the voluminous but pernicious comments of
the know-all, ultra-nationalist NRI banging away on the computer in
splendid isolation. From being India’s would-be benefactors, the
meddlesome NRI has become an intellectual nuisance, derailing civil
discourse with his paranoia and pseudo-superiority. It’s time he was
royally ignored.

-- 
Question everything -- Karl Marx


[Goanet] How the NRI has fallen from grace

2009-08-17 Thread Venantius Pinto
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   BOOK RELEASE: Medieval Goa by Teotonio R. de Souza
Will be re-released after 30 years on August 21, 2009 at 5:15pm
 at Goa Chambers of Commerce and Industry Hall,
near Azad Maidan in Panjim, Goa

 http://medieval-goa.notlong.com

-

Just perhaps, Dasgupta is using a broad brush, but taking off on his fellow
Banglas -- alluding to the former erstwhile babus/of babudom. I strongly
doubt whether the NRIs vocal Goanet fall into that category. If it matters
at all, Goan NRIs who are on Goanet, and living in the US, are doing well by
most yardsticks. They have their say here not because people In India do not
give them the time of day( they do) but to spell out their positions and
test and tease each other out. NRIs, if at all they have have fallen from
grace; such speculations or theorems must be opined in individual minds of
Goanetters within India. Until those individuals say something, Dasgupta's
observations do not touch NRI Goanetters. We have not heard an iota of such
expression on Goanet, so the real entertainment value is shallow. If they
have fallen from grace, on account of not distributing their wealth as in
cash, then that is another story.

In my experience I have noticed that although we may use particular
collectives, say such as NRIs, Goans, artist, doctors, etc., to describe
people and leanings—they rarely conform to any such commonage. I believe
that life even on a kibuutz is less common and mundane than we thought.

Speaking for myself, I say my bit since it fits in precisely with my mind,
and spirit -- which is further expressed through artistic labor.

venantius j pinto


From: Vidyadhar Gadgil vgad...@gmail.com

 Subject: [Goanet] How the NRI has fallen from grace

 Entertaining article by Swapan Dasgupta  in yesterday's TOI on NRIs. See


 http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/right-and-wrong/entry/how-the-non-resident-indian

 The last two paras are pasted below.

 ---

 The average NRI?s fall from grace in India has been precipitate. The
 vacuous condescension that marked earlier attitudes has been replaced by
 desperation to find some accommodation somewhere. The big NRI players
 have no problem ? they have seen their social worth in the West keep
 pace with India?s soaring reputation as a rising power. But the small
 fish whose tie and a twang once enabled him to lord over his less
 fortunate brethren in India has seen envy replaced with disinterest.

 To the NRI confronted with a precarious descent into obscurity, there is
 only a small solace: interventions on the net. Taking advantage of a
 more connected world, the professional NRI (who knows no other identity)
 has stepped up his battles to cast India in his own confused image. No
 Indian website is free from the voluminous but pernicious comments of
 the know-all, ultra-nationalist NRI banging away on the computer in
 splendid isolation. From being India?s would-be benefactors, the
 meddlesome NRI has become an intellectual nuisance, derailing civil
 discourse with his paranoia and pseudo-superiority. It?s time he was
 royally ignored.

 --
 Question everything -- Karl Marx


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Re: [Goanet] How the NRI has fallen from grace

2009-08-17 Thread lyrawmn

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Hello V. Gadgil,
 
Do you think Mr. Swapan Dasgupta is aware that NRIs remitted US $24.6 billion 
in 2005-6 and US$ 43.5 billion 2007-8 according to the Reserve Bank of India? 
[Reported by the Financial Express in India.] 
 
This is estimated to be about 3% India's GDP.
 
The World Bank reports US $52 billion of NRI remittances to India for 2008.
[This is projected to decrease ~10% for 2009-2010, naturally.]
 
Does this excuse the crass behaviour and conspicuous consumerism of some NRIs?
NO!  
These yobs should be royally ignored.

I. Nunes 

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Vidyadhar Gadgil vgad...@gmail.com wrote:



From: Vidyadhar Gadgil vgad...@gmail.com
Subject: [Goanet] How the NRI has fallen from grace
To: Goanet mails goa...@goanet.org
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 7:01 AM


-

Entertaining article by Swapan Dasgupta  in yesterday's TOI on NRIs. See

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/right-and-wrong/entry/how-the-non-resident-indian

The last two paras are pasted below.

---

The average NRI’s fall from grace in India has been precipitate. The
vacuous condescension that marked earlier attitudes has been replaced by
desperation to find some accommodation somewhere. The big NRI players
have no problem — they have seen their social worth in the West keep
pace with India’s soaring reputation as a rising power. But the small
fish whose tie and a twang once enabled him to lord over his less
fortunate brethren in India has seen envy replaced with disinterest.

To the NRI confronted with a precarious descent into obscurity, there is
only a small solace: interventions on the net. Taking advantage of a
more connected world, the professional NRI (who knows no other identity)
has stepped up his battles to cast India in his own confused image. No
Indian website is free from the voluminous but pernicious comments of
the know-all, ultra-nationalist NRI banging away on the computer in
splendid isolation. From being India’s would-be benefactors, the
meddlesome NRI has become an intellectual nuisance, derailing civil
discourse with his paranoia and pseudo-superiority. It’s time he was
royally ignored.

-- 
Question everything -- Karl Marx