Re: [Goanet] IS IT A DADAGUIRI OF MEDICAL COUNCIL OF INDIA?

[Jose]

Dear Dr. Falcao,

Thank you for highlighting this MCI-GMC issue by way of reposting this NT 
article.

Would you care, if possible, to please expand on the following:

1: Did you see the name of the author of this article?
2: Did the MCI have a press conference after the visit ?
3: Do 'we' need to know WHO these 'Authoritative Sources' are who allegedly 
spoke to NT?
4: I know that certain MidEastern employers require their Employees to keep 
their passports with them (employers). But do you or anyone else know WHY 
original certificates of doctors need to be kept on the GMC campus? 
5: Do you know of ANY profession ANYWHERE else in the world that this is so?
6: Would certified copies (verified by the Admin of GMC) not achieve the same 
result?
7: Would GMC / MCI be responsible for damage to these certificates or their 
loss?
8: If there was such a requirement in situ, was it not the duty of the Admin to 
do the needful before this drama of Summoning the doctors?
9: With all this drama, the OPD functioned normally?
10: Does the demeaning of doctors help or hurt the delivery of Health Care at 
GMC?

As one who has assisted a number of GMC graduates to find career-placements in 
the West, I must say that I am proud of our GMC graduates and their teachers. 
Despite the odds they faced during their training years in Goa, they are doing 
remarkably well in countries which treat them very well.

jc


> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão 
>  wrote:
> 
> MCI team irked with rude faculty members of GMC

>
> http://epaper.navhindtimes.in/NewsDetail.aspx?storyid=10661=2015-10-13=1
> 
>   PANAJI: Atleast a dozen faculty members, including two heads of 
> departments of the Goa Medical College failed to satisfy the inspectors 
> deputed by the Medical Council of India (MCI) for inspection of the 
> facilities, staff and other requirements at the only medical college in 
> the state so as to continue its recognition for admission of 150 
> students in the future.
> 
> Authoritative sources said that the MCI inspectors have taken a 
> serious view of the faculty members not producing their original 
> certificates, failing to sign the muster rolls sent to the operation 
> theatres and out-patient departments where they were posted besides 
> failing to meet various other requirements as per the MCI guidelines.
> 
> The sources said that the rude and uncooperative behaviour of the 
> faculty members irked the inspection team members, who had to summon 
> them to seek explanation, to which the faculty members took as an 
> affront. The sources also denied that any operation was cancelled or 
> postponed besides empathetically maintaining the OPDs functioned 
> normally.
> 
> The sources said that to minimise action against them and to put the 
> MCI inspectors on the back foot, the “aggrieved” faculty members 
> “leaked” to media that operations were either cancelled or rescheduled 
> and that the OPDs were closed.
> 
> “If the OPDs were closed and operations were postponed or cancelled 
> then why were the muster rolls sent to the OPDs and operation theatres 
> before 9 am with specific directions that they were to be returned to 
> the inspector by noon,” the sources said adding that it was only when 
> the unsigned muster rolls were returned around noon that faculty was 
> called by inspectors to seek explanation. According to the sources, 
> while the government ensured that most of the requirements as laid down 
> by the MCI were met, the “uncooperative” behaviour of a few faculty 
> members has put a question mark on whether the GMC would have to undergo
> another inspection for failing to meet the requirements.
> 
> The sources said that the government ensured that there was enough 
> number of residents by invoking the bond condition on the students 
> passing out of the GMC. As regards to the other requirement of seminar 
> cum examination hall, the GSIDC assured the inspectors that it would be 
> ready soon.
> 
> The sources further said that for the first time in the history of 
> GMC in recent years, the physical verification of the staff was 
> completed before 8 pm unlike post midnight in previous years. The 
> inspection was carried in new lecture halls at the request of dean Dr 
> Pradip Naik.
> 
> The MCI as well as the GMC authorities have issued standing 
> instructions to the faculty members that they should keep their original
> certificates within the GMC campus so as to produce them before 
> authorities at short notice. But quite a few faculty members have failed
> to adhere to the instructions.
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. 
> 
> 

[Goanet] IS IT A DADAGUIRI OF MEDICAL COUNCIL OF INDIA?

[Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão]

MCI team irked with rude faculty members of GMC





http://epaper.navhindtimes.in/NewsDetail.aspx?storyid=10661=2015-10-13=1




PANAJI: Atleast a dozen faculty 
members, including two heads of 
departments of the Goa Medical College failed to satisfy the inspectors 
deputed by the Medical Council of India (MCI) for inspection of the 
facilities, staff and other requirements at the only medical college in 
the state so as to continue its recognition for admission of 150 
students in the future.

Authoritative sources said that the MCI inspectors have taken a 
serious view of the faculty members not producing their original 
certificates, failing to sign the muster rolls sent to the operation 
theatres and out-patient departments where they were posted besides 
failing to meet various other requirements as per the MCI guidelines.

The sources said that the rude and uncooperative behaviour of the 
faculty members irked the inspection team members, who had to summon 
them to seek explanation, to which the faculty members took as an 
affront. The sources also denied that any operation was cancelled or 
postponed besides empathetically maintaining the OPDs functioned 
normally.

The sources said that to minimise action against them and to put the 
MCI inspectors on the back foot, the “aggrieved” faculty members 
“leaked” to media that operations were either cancelled or rescheduled 
and that the OPDs were closed.

“If the OPDs were closed and operations were postponed or cancelled 
then why were the muster rolls sent to the OPDs and operation theatres 
before 9 am with specific directions that they were to be returned to 
the inspector by noon,” the sources said adding that it was only when 
the unsigned muster rolls were returned around noon that faculty was 
called by inspectors to seek explanation. According to the sources, 
while the government ensured that most of the requirements as laid down 
by the MCI were met, the “uncooperative” behaviour of a few faculty 
members has put a question mark on whether the GMC would have to undergo
 another inspection for failing to meet the requirements.

The sources said that the government ensured that there was enough 
number of residents by invoking the bond condition on the students 
passing out of the GMC. As regards to the other requirement of seminar 
cum examination hall, the GSIDC assured the inspectors that it would be 
ready soon.

The sources further said that for the first time in the history of 
GMC in recent years, the physical verification of the staff was 
completed before 8 pm unlike post midnight in previous years. The 
inspection was carried in new lecture halls at the request of dean Dr 
Pradip Naik.

The MCI as well as the GMC authorities have issued standing 
instructions to the faculty members that they should keep their original
 certificates within the GMC campus so as to produce them before 
authorities at short notice. But quite a few faculty members have failed
 to adhere to the instructions.









Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. 

  

Re: [Goanet] IS IT A DADAGUIRI OF MEDICAL COUNCIL OF INDIA?

[Jose Colaco]

On 12 October 2015 at 00:32, Santosh Helekar  wrote:

"I am puzzled by the news reports in Herald and Navhind Times regarding
clinical trials at GMC and in private hospitals in Goa. I am not sure what
the illegalities are. Perhaps, only someone like Josebab can throw some
light on this matter, if he knows the details of this case.

But from reading the reports it seems to me that: 1) Goa government has no
established policies, rules and regulations regarding the conduct of
clinical trials, 2) the journalists who wrote the reports and the persons
who lodged the complaints believe that somehow conducting a clinical trial
itself is wrong, unethical or illegal, and 3) the latter individuals also
believe that attending medical scientific conferences abroad to present the
results of the trials is also wrong, unethical or illegal. The trials were
apparently approved by an ethics committee at GMC. The only problem I see
here is that Dr. Mesquita might have a conflict of interest, assuming he
did not recuse himself in respect of his own trials, since he was the
chairman of the committee. But I am not sure whether or not the government
has any strict conflict of interest rules in this regard. All this can be
clarified by someone who actually knows the facts of this case, and is not
misinformed about the importance of clinical trials in medicine and the
enormous expenditure involved in conducting them"

My dear Santoshbab,

Both you and I have, on a number of occasions, publicly wished - even on
Goanet itself - that the alleged Goa Journos would consult knowledgeable
physicians before rushing to print garbage.

Both you and I have , on a number of occasions, offered 'pro bono' advice
to a point where we were thought to be 'all knowing'.

But.the 'brilliance' continues.

In the index case, I believe that you are on the right track.

I have asked a few preliminary questions; I might need to ask follow up
ones. I do not know yet.

Knowing at least One physician personally - for a long time, I have reason
to believe that Medicine may NOT be the focus of this drama.

My text books of Land Law + Trust and Equity Law have probably brainwashed
me.

ps: If and When I receive the answers to my questions, I will  keep the
information confidential - until released from that promise.  I trust that
the matter will be resolved soon. It is NOT only the physicians who will
suffer. Medicine itself will take a serious hit.

Journalists must understand that IT is NEVER a good thing when Institutions
like Freedom of the Press, Justice and Medicine get unwarranted and
irresponsible hits.

Once again, I say to the Journos. If you need helpASK !

best

jc

Re: [Goanet] IS IT A DADAGUIRI OF MEDICAL COUNCIL OF INDIA?

[Jose Colaco]

On 10 October 2015 at 00:27, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão <
drferdina...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear StephenDias,



> Are you aware that there was illegal Clinical trial going on in GMC?
>
> http://epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=16045=18134596==10/10/2015
>
> Are you aware that Regulations exist in the conducting of clinical Trials?
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4215498/


Dear Dr. Falcao,

I believe that Mr. Stephen Dias is making a good point esp with reference
to the alleged "2 hour notice" given to doctors to get a hold of their
medical certificates.

You will agree, No Doubt, that every action has to be reasonable IF it is
not to be construed as being High Handed and Disrespectful - not only to
the doctors but also to the profession itself.

 With reference to the Research at GMC, until one knows ALL the facts of
the case, it might be appropriate ( I submit) to characterize, at best,  it
as Allegedly Illegal.and NOT illegal.

One of the doctors (Anthony Mesquitta) has the reputation of being a
straight forward and honest person. I happen to know him personally . It is
possible that the steps he apparently took (going through the Ethics
Committee etc) are not enough. He may or may not have erred. But that does
not make him dishonest. The same with the other doctors. We shall see.

Without entering into the realm of Professional Envy and the World Famous
in Goa 'Kosparency', I recommend that we ascertain ALL the facts of the
case before we 'Cast Stones' at honourable people.

As an aside, the Headline in Target Goa
http://www.targetgoa.com/goabuzzdet.php?bzid=7169&=12 was gratuitous.
What has the BJP got to do with Dr. Anthony Mesquitta? Has he got where he
has because of his brother's connections with the BJP?

good wishes

jc

Re: [Goanet] IS IT A DADAGUIRI OF MEDICAL COUNCIL OF INDIA?

[Sam Furtado]

Far fetched from the Truth We All Need to Know, what's Going on in GMC, I'
m quite baffled by the outcome and in reading O' Heraldo News???

What more can I say further???
It's now for the MCI to decide the next course of action.
Sam

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão <
drferdina...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Stephen Dias,
>
>
> Are you
> aware that there was illegal Clinical trial going on in GMC?
>
>
> http://epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=16045=18134596==10/10/2015
>
>
> Are you
> aware that Regulations exist in the conducting
> of clinical Trials?
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4215498/
>
>
>
> Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
>

[Goanet] IS IT A DADAGUIRI OF MEDICAL COUNCIL OF INDIA?

[Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão]

Dear Stephen Dias,


Are you
aware that there was illegal Clinical trial going on in GMC?

http://epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=16045=18134596==10/10/2015


Are you
aware that Regulations exist in the conducting 
of clinical Trials?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4215498/



Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. 
  

Re: [Goanet] IS IT A DADAGUIRI OF MEDICAL COUNCIL OF INDIA?

[Sam Furtado]

Yes Sir,
These are pure harassment by the Medical Council of India (MCI) for reasons
best known to them or could be some hidden plans up their sleeves in league
with the Health Ministry itself..

As you have aptly put across *"**This is a plot for good doctors to leave
the GMC and go elsewhere and we **patients have to dance with lower staff
quality doctors"*.could just be subterfuge camouflage their own gains and
must be looked in seriousness and matter reported to CBI or the concerned
authorities for investigation or else one more scam in the offing



 Asking Doctors to produce their bonafide Medical Degrees in two hours
times is just bizarre and Preposterousthe MCI should ask all doctors in
India to hang their medical degrees around the neck and move about... so
that at glance they can gouge their degree of awareness.


Sam



On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Stephen Dias  wrote:

> I said in my leter that the inspection is required but with advance notice.
> It is fine inspection should be done without notice but not asking for
> degree certificates within 2 hours time.
> What for is the administrative staff are doing in the office. Do they
> cannot provide the stuff. Why they haven't approached them with permission
> of Dean?
> Why doctors especially seniors'one should be targeted and put them an
> embarrassment. Do you think all thesedctors do not have required
> qualification. If No, they should take action and not necessary in a hurry
> by stopping surgeries, Xay eetc.
> This is a plot for good doctors to leave the GMC and go elsewhere and we
> patients have to dance with lower staff quality doctors.
> I understand that these inspection do not come by overnight , but why
> Health Mitse is complaing that he should have been informed. Dean also says
> that he cannot argue with higher autorits as he has to give the replies to
> these inspectors of MCI.
> Why harassment and why relatives to put in heavy loss and all kind of
> troubles.
> I hope you will understand my difficulties putting this issue across/
>
> Stephen
>
>
> -
>
>
> On 9 October 2015 at 08:18, Jose Colaco  wrote:
>
> > My dear Stephen,
> >
> > While I admire your zeal, I disagree with the points made by you wrt the
> > MCI's inspection of GMC.
> >
> > Trust me:  These inspections do NOT happen in a vacuum. Additionally,
> they
> > are best conducted without notice.
> >
> > I am absolutely sure that they occurred with the knowledge of those who
> > needed to know.
> >
> > jc
> >
> > On 8 October 2015 at 22:23, Stephen Dias  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> -
> >>
> >> HEALTH MINISTER NEEDS TO GIVE EXPLANATION FOR THE INSPECTION AT GOA
> >> MEDICAL COLLEGE HOSPITAL
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Goa Medical College is a premiere college in Asia and it the best
> >> Hospital in Goa, and can be compared to many others best Hospitals in
> >> India. The so called “raid” was conducted by inspectors of MCI without
> >> giving an advance notice to the Dean of GMC. It was a surprised
> inspection
> >> and it is quite unfortunate that GMC surgeries and OPD, X-rays, CT-Scan,
> >> MRI etc were put on hold immediately.  This kind of inspection may be
> >> necessary but to be given an advance notice, so that the patients and
> >> relatives who have come for surgeries do not have any inconvenience.
> What
> >> will happen for a heart patient if it is to be taken to OT for the an
> >> emergency surgery?
> >>
> >> It is quite bad that all the doctors, juniors as well seniors were asked
> >> to go home and get their original degree certificates within 2 hours.
> How
> >> this is possible when some of them are residing far away and it is
> >> impossible to get back to Hospital within the stipulated time given to
> >> them? Why the GMC administration was not pulled up first, when they are
> >> responsible to keep the certificates of their staff in their custody
> during
> >> joining time?
> >>
> >> The Health Minister Francisco D’Sousa is also responsible for this
> sudden
> >> development of this kind of raid as the MCI inspectors should have
> informed
> >> him, at least the Dean before going into action.
> >>
> >> I feel there is some hand with the private Hospitals doctors which needs
> >> to be investigated as it is a plan to tarnish the image of the Goa
> Medical
> >> College and Hospital.
> >>
> >> The Chief Minister of Goa must give an explanation for this incident
> >> taken place and put the CBI under investigation how this kind of
> inspection
> >> has taken place without an advance notice.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Stephen Dias
> >>
> >> Dona Paula
> >>
> >> Date: 9.10.2015
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: [Goanet] IS IT A DADAGUIRI OF MEDICAL COUNCIL OF INDIA?

[Stephen Dias]

I said in my leter that the inspection is required but with advance notice.
It is fine inspection should be done without notice but not asking for
degree certificates within 2 hours time.
What for is the administrative staff are doing in the office. Do they
cannot provide the stuff. Why they haven't approached them with permission
of Dean?
Why doctors especially seniors'one should be targeted and put them an
embarrassment. Do you think all thesedctors do not have required
qualification. If No, they should take action and not necessary in a hurry
by stopping surgeries, Xay eetc.
This is a plot for good doctors to leave the GMC and go elsewhere and we
patients have to dance with lower staff quality doctors.
I understand that these inspection do not come by overnight , but why
Health Mitse is complaing that he should have been informed. Dean also says
that he cannot argue with higher autorits as he has to give the replies to
these inspectors of MCI.
Why harassment and why relatives to put in heavy loss and all kind of
troubles.
I hope you will understand my difficulties putting this issue across/

Stephen

-


On 9 October 2015 at 08:18, Jose Colaco  wrote:

> My dear Stephen,
>
> While I admire your zeal, I disagree with the points made by you wrt the
> MCI's inspection of GMC.
>
> Trust me:  These inspections do NOT happen in a vacuum. Additionally, they
> are best conducted without notice.
>
> I am absolutely sure that they occurred with the knowledge of those who
> needed to know.
>
> jc
>
> On 8 October 2015 at 22:23, Stephen Dias  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>> HEALTH MINISTER NEEDS TO GIVE EXPLANATION FOR THE INSPECTION AT GOA
>> MEDICAL COLLEGE HOSPITAL
>>
>>
>>
>> The Goa Medical College is a premiere college in Asia and it the best
>> Hospital in Goa, and can be compared to many others best Hospitals in
>> India. The so called “raid” was conducted by inspectors of MCI without
>> giving an advance notice to the Dean of GMC. It was a surprised inspection
>> and it is quite unfortunate that GMC surgeries and OPD, X-rays, CT-Scan,
>> MRI etc were put on hold immediately.  This kind of inspection may be
>> necessary but to be given an advance notice, so that the patients and
>> relatives who have come for surgeries do not have any inconvenience. What
>> will happen for a heart patient if it is to be taken to OT for the an
>> emergency surgery?
>>
>> It is quite bad that all the doctors, juniors as well seniors were asked
>> to go home and get their original degree certificates within 2 hours. How
>> this is possible when some of them are residing far away and it is
>> impossible to get back to Hospital within the stipulated time given to
>> them? Why the GMC administration was not pulled up first, when they are
>> responsible to keep the certificates of their staff in their custody during
>> joining time?
>>
>> The Health Minister Francisco D’Sousa is also responsible for this sudden
>> development of this kind of raid as the MCI inspectors should have informed
>> him, at least the Dean before going into action.
>>
>> I feel there is some hand with the private Hospitals doctors which needs
>> to be investigated as it is a plan to tarnish the image of the Goa Medical
>> College and Hospital.
>>
>> The Chief Minister of Goa must give an explanation for this incident
>> taken place and put the CBI under investigation how this kind of inspection
>> has taken place without an advance notice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stephen Dias
>>
>> Dona Paula
>>
>> Date: 9.10.2015
>>
>
>