Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Mervyn Lobo]

On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Jose Colaco wrote:
> Mervyn...IF you do NOT know the crucial effect of this election on
> the SC appointmentsYou just do not know. Please stay ignorant.

jc, I believe I have a fair idea of what the impact of the next few
appointments to the SCOTUS will be. IF the mother of Obama gets to choose
(the next four), I expect superstition to be jettisoned from all US
government  proceedings. IF the aggrandizing one wins, there will be a slew
of Mexican-American appointees. The court would be referred to as the Trump
Court and the White House will be re-branded as the Trump House.

Here is well, how people in the US view Bwana Trump.

TRUMP BLAMES BAD POLL NUMBERS ON EXISTENCE OF NUMERICAL SYSTEM
 AUGUST 15, 2016

YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO —Donald J. Trump lashed out at a new target on Monday,
blaming his bad poll numbers on the existence of the numerical system.

In sometimes rambling remarks at an outdoor rally in Ohio, the Republican
Presidential nominee called the numerical system “rigged” and unleashed a
torrent of abuse on numbers themselves, calling them “disgusting” and “the
lowest form of life.”

“It’s why I won’t release my taxes,” he said. “They’re full of goddam
numbers.”

While Republican candidates in the past have attempted to exploit their
supporters’ distrust of math, Trump is believed to be the first nominee to
call into question the numerical system itself.

Behind the scenes, G.O.P. insiders fretted that, in attacking the very
existence of numbers, Trump was veering wildly off message.

“He should be talking about Hillary Clinton, and instead he’s going off on
integers,” one insider said.

Officially, aides remained upbeat about the campaign and denied reports
that Trump was spending an increasingly large portion of each day angrily
muttering to himself and chewing on paper.

The Borowitz Report


> Will absolutely do so immediately after Gold touches $ 2000

Is this all you have jc?

Mervyn

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Gabe Menezes]

On 14 August 2016 at 22:17, Jose Colaco  wrote:

> On 14 August 2016 at 13:46, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:
>
>
> jc 2: Will absolutely do so immediately after Gold touches $ 2000
>
> jc
>

RESPONSE; for sure gold will touch and break  US $2000, that is not the
question the timing is what is material! What are you talking about my life
time your life time?



-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Jose Colaco]

On 14 August 2016 at 13:46, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

ML 1: "In desperation, Trump has shifted his focus from urging people to
vote for him to urging people to vote for his list of Supreme Court
nominees. I find it inconceivable that Trump thinks that there are people
in the USA that are more important than him. The 'vote for my Supreme Court
nominees' is a scare tactic - aimed at those who give in easily to fear."

jc 1: Mervyn...IF you do NOT know the crucial effect of this election on
the SC appointmentsYou just do not know. Please stay ignorant.

==
ML 2: "Similarly, your treat of pointing out my "major Booboo" is an
act of desperation.
As such, I would spur you on to present your reminder here."

jc 2: Will absolutely do so immediately after Gold touches $ 2000

jc

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Mervyn Lobo]

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Jose Colaco  wrote:

> BTW: I notice that the usually gracious Mervyn Lobo has reverted to the
> "Canadian Tigers" story. I wonder IF Mervyn wishes to be reminded of his
> own "major Booboo"
>
> In summary: All of us make errors. Let us remember to Cast the First
> Stone...ONLY IF we are Flawless !



jc,
I am glad the subject line has not changed.

In desperation, Trump has shifted his focus from urging people to vote for
him to urging people to vote for his list of Supreme Court nominees. I find
it inconceivable that Trump thinks that there are people in the USA that
are more important than him. The 'vote for my Supreme Court nominees' is a
scare tactic - aimed at those who give in easily to fear.

Similarly, your treat of pointing out my "major Booboo" is an act of
desperation. As such, I would spur you on to present your reminder here.


MervynfromthemakeTrumpgreatagaincampaign

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Jose Colaco]

On 13 August 2016 at 09:59, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या
*فريدريك نورونيا  wrote:

> Cecil, Could you tell us which parts of Roland's arguments you
> disagree with any why?



Dear CecilIn his post FN added the following quote: " Fallacious ad
hominem reasoning is normally categorized as an informal
fallacy,[4][5][6] more precisely as a genetic fallacy, a subcategory
of fallacies
of irrelevance."

Please note, dear Cecil, that FN was referring to FALLACIOUS !

BTW: I notice that the usually gracious Mervyn Lobo has reverted to the
"Canadian Tigers" story. I wonder IF Mervyn wishes to be reminded of his
own "major Booboo"

In summary: All of us make errors. Let us remember to Cast the First
Stone...ONLY IF we are Flawless !

Ola Eugene !

jc

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump - A Thank You To Cecil

[Mervyn Lobo]

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Roland wrote:

> Cecil, Mervyn Lobo is very appreciative of your coming to his help.
> He will soon post to thank you himself.
> Meanwhile stay close should he need you again, soon.



Roland,
Cecil, in his inimitable way, pointed out where you do well and where you
are, well, similar to a Canadian tiger.

I realize it is difficult for you to figure out who he is trying to help.

To come to grips with the situation, read his first line. Here it is again:
"Mervyn has proven time and again that your knowledge and understanding of
USA politics and Global Economics is flawed, to say the least.With the post
below you are displaying your totally fragmented comprehension of Goan and
Indian politics. Why don't you post about things you actually know well?
Your occasional nostalgia posts are a pleasure to read."

Mervyn
PS I don't want to drop both Parrikar and Trump from this post so let me
pay Trump one compliment. He says exactly what is on his mind. The
established Republicans hate him for this because, as professional
politicians, their hands are tied behind their backs and have to use code
words to say the same thing..

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Roland]

There's Mervyn Lobo's personal thank you as I promised you before I read his 
post.

Now will be awaiting your answer to JC's and FN's common question.

Roland Francis
416-453-3371
> 
> Cecil,
> I too enjoy Roland's nostalgic posts.
> 
> The other accounts I thoroughly enjoy - for different reasons - is Roland's
> introspection's on Canadian Tigers :-)
> 
> Mervyn

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump - A Thank You To Cecil

[Eugene Correia]

Cecil, it's better to stay out. Some know too well, and should be let free
to express their valued opinion.

eugene

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Roland  wrote:

> Cecil, Mervyn Lobo is very appreciative of your coming to his help.
>
> He will soon post to thank you himself.
>
> Meanwhile stay close should he need you again, soon.
>
> Roland
> Toronto,
>
> Cecil wrote:
> Mervyn has proven time and again that your knowledge and understanding of
> USA politics and Global Economics is flawed, to say the least.
> With the post below you are displaying your totally fragmented
> comprehension of Goan and Indian politics. Why don't you post about things
> you actually know well? Your occasional nostalgia posts are a pleasure to
> read.
>
>

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump - A Thank You To Cecil

[Roland]

Cecil, Mervyn Lobo is very appreciative of your coming to his help.

He will soon post to thank you himself. 

Meanwhile stay close should he need you again, soon.

Roland
Toronto,

Cecil wrote:
Mervyn has proven time and again that your knowledge and understanding of USA 
politics and Global Economics is flawed, to say the least.
With the post below you are displaying your totally fragmented comprehension of 
Goan and Indian politics. Why don't you post about things you actually know 
well? Your occasional nostalgia posts are a pleasure to read.

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

Cecil, Could you tell us which parts of Roland's arguments you disagree
with any why?

QUOTE

Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for
argumentum ad hominem, is a logical fallacy in which an argument is
rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the
person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather
than attacking the substance of the argument itself.[2]

Ad hominem reasoning is not always fallacious, for example, when it relates
to the credibility of statements of fact or when used in certain kinds of
moral and practical reasoning.[3]

Fallacious ad hominem reasoning is normally categorized as an informal
fallacy,[4][5][6] more precisely as a genetic fallacy, a subcategory of
fallacies of irrelevance.

UNQUOTE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem


On 13 August 2016 at 18:17, Cecil Pinto <cecilpi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Roland,
>
> Mervyn has proven time and again that your knowledge and understanding of
> USA politics and Global Economics is flawed, to say the least.
>
> With the post below you are displaying your totally fragmented
> comprehension of Goan and Indian politics.
>
> Why don't you post about things you actually know well?
>
> Your occasional nostalgia posts are a pleasure to read.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Cecil
>
> ==
>
>
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 14:47:25 -0400
> From: Roland <roland.fran...@gmail.com>
> To: "goa...@goanet.org" <goa...@goanet.org>
> Subject: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump
> Message-ID: <b9a8734b-6b2b-43b7-8793-bca20fd03...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii
>
> I am seeing a lot more in common with these two politicians than meets the
> eye.
>
> Do you think Parrikar would come to the eye of Modi and become the Defence
> Minister of the country from being the CM of a tiny state if he:
>
> Did not talk of Zero Corruption no matter what his 'live and let live'
> intention.
>
> Did not make a bosom friend out of Goa's Catholic patriarch.
>
> Did not buy out the administration's top prosecutor.
>
> Did not be an obedient pracharak of the RSS and a Yes Man of the BJP's
> brass.
>
> Did not promise to remove all casinos from Goa while letting them provide
> him with hush money.
>
> Similarly do you think Trump would have led the pack of 17 Republican
> wannabe Presidents going on to win the GOP race if he did not:
>
> Villify the Muslims, America's favourite whipping boys.
>
> Promise to win all future wars.
>
> Promise to bring lost jobs home again.
>
> Promise to repeal existing trade treaties because they were not favourable
> to the country.
>
> Build a wall with Mexico and make them pay for it.
>
> Promise to make America great again.
>
> Did you see how Parrikar is as quiet as a chicken except for his inane
> statements on unimportant subjects using atrocious pronunciation.
>
> If Trump becomes President, watch him doing the Parrikar and Mervyn Lobo
> relocating to the USA (as promised).
>
> Roland Francis
> Toronto.
>

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Mervyn Lobo]

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Cecil Pinto wrote:

> Dear Roland,
> Mervyn has proven time and again that your knowledge and understanding of
> USA politics and Global Economics is flawed, to say the least.
>
> With the post below you are displaying your totally fragmented
> comprehension of Goan and Indian politics.
>
> Why don't you post about things you actually know well?
>
> Your occasional nostalgia posts are a pleasure to read.
>
>

Cecil,
I too enjoy Roland's nostalgic posts.

The other accounts I thoroughly enjoy - for different reasons - is Roland's
introspection's on Canadian Tigers :-)

Mervyn

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Jose Colaco]

On 13 August 2016 at 08:47, Cecil Pinto  wrote:

"Dear Roland, Mervyn has proven time and again that your knowledge and
understanding of
USA politics and Global Economics is flawed, to say the least."

Dear Cecil,

On what basis are you stating that Mervyn's proof contra Roland really
is the PROOF ?

jc

[Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Cecil Pinto]

Dear Roland,

Mervyn has proven time and again that your knowledge and understanding of
USA politics and Global Economics is flawed, to say the least.

With the post below you are displaying your totally fragmented
comprehension of Goan and Indian politics.

Why don't you post about things you actually know well?

Your occasional nostalgia posts are a pleasure to read.

Cheers!

Cecil

==



Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 14:47:25 -0400
From: Roland <roland.fran...@gmail.com>
To: "goa...@goanet.org" <goa...@goanet.org>
Subject: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump
Message-ID: <b9a8734b-6b2b-43b7-8793-bca20fd03...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

I am seeing a lot more in common with these two politicians than meets the
eye.

Do you think Parrikar would come to the eye of Modi and become the Defence
Minister of the country from being the CM of a tiny state if he:

Did not talk of Zero Corruption no matter what his 'live and let live'
intention.

Did not make a bosom friend out of Goa's Catholic patriarch.

Did not buy out the administration's top prosecutor.

Did not be an obedient pracharak of the RSS and a Yes Man of the BJP's
brass.

Did not promise to remove all casinos from Goa while letting them provide
him with hush money.

Similarly do you think Trump would have led the pack of 17 Republican
wannabe Presidents going on to win the GOP race if he did not:

Villify the Muslims, America's favourite whipping boys.

Promise to win all future wars.

Promise to bring lost jobs home again.

Promise to repeal existing trade treaties because they were not favourable
to the country.

Build a wall with Mexico and make them pay for it.

Promise to make America great again.

Did you see how Parrikar is as quiet as a chicken except for his inane
statements on unimportant subjects using atrocious pronunciation.

If Trump becomes President, watch him doing the Parrikar and Mervyn Lobo
relocating to the USA (as promised).

Roland Francis
Toronto.

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Vivian A. DSouza]

Merv/Roland:
I did not want to budge   into your fracas.  But as far as the U.S. Dollar is 
concerned,I will not be surprised if it collapses in a few months.  It has 
become a house of cardswhich is un-sustainable.  Gold may be a good alternative 
if one wants to protect one's assets.  Mark my word.
  Vivian (a.k.a. Mzee Shenzi)

  From: Mervyn Lobo <mervyn1...@gmail.com>
 To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> 
 Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 2:23 AM
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump
   
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Roland wrote:
> First he says he'll move to the USA if Trump becomes POTUS. Then he says
no, it's AFTER
> he is deposed by the Army. Come election time, a few more weird
predictions and conditions
> will have been made for him to move.


Roland,
You have the rare capacity of making me feel like Yesu Kristo. This time I
feel like I am in front of Pilate and the reply "You have said so" seems
the appropriate answer :-) But let me throw in a sweetener. How about
joining me at the Canadian Embassy on Pennsylvania Avenue on inauguration
day? We could stand on the balcony and watch Trump march up to the White
House. Hors d'oeuvres and drinks will be compliments of Her Majesty, the
Queen.


> Further indications of "the world according to Mervyn Lobo" is given with
"Hilary's arrest and the nomination of somebody called George Bush 43 years
old to the Supreme Court". Who would emigrate to a country in chaos? I know
who. Someone who can make money out of it all. Like the money he made on
his previous prediction that the US financial system would collapse because
they were printing money at will and Gold was where everyone should be >


I guess you do not realize that there are two people in the USA named
George Bush. One is called George Bush (41) and the other, believe it or
not, is George Bush (43). George Bush (43) would make an interesting
Supreme Court judge even though he is not 43 years old.


> It's becoming so routine. We were supposed to have enjoyed the benefits
of gold at 2000
> an ounce because we would have bought it at 1400. If you ask him what
happened, he'll
> say it'll happen some day.


Again, "You have said so" is the appropriate answer.


Mervyn
BTW, Trump insisted today that Obama and Hilary were the co-founders of
ISIS. I now expect President Trump to arrest both of them in February,
2017. I like to be in town the day before the circus arrives. I would
encourage you to be a real tiger and arrive early too. Keep in mind that
there is the real possibility of Trump anointing himself Emperor shortly
after.

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Mervyn Lobo]

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Roland wrote:
> First he says he'll move to the USA if Trump becomes POTUS. Then he says
no, it's AFTER
> he is deposed by the Army. Come election time, a few more weird
predictions and conditions
> will have been made for him to move.


Roland,
You have the rare capacity of making me feel like Yesu Kristo. This time I
feel like I am in front of Pilate and the reply "You have said so" seems
the appropriate answer :-) But let me throw in a sweetener. How about
joining me at the Canadian Embassy on Pennsylvania Avenue on inauguration
day? We could stand on the balcony and watch Trump march up to the White
House. Hors d'oeuvres and drinks will be compliments of Her Majesty, the
Queen.


> Further indications of "the world according to Mervyn Lobo" is given with
"Hilary's arrest and the nomination of somebody called George Bush 43 years
old to the Supreme Court". Who would emigrate to a country in chaos? I know
who. Someone who can make money out of it all. Like the money he made on
his previous prediction that the US financial system would collapse because
they were printing money at will and Gold was where everyone should be >


I guess you do not realize that there are two people in the USA named
George Bush. One is called George Bush (41) and the other, believe it or
not, is George Bush (43). George Bush (43) would make an interesting
Supreme Court judge even though he is not 43 years old.


> It's becoming so routine. We were supposed to have enjoyed the benefits
of gold at 2000
> an ounce because we would have bought it at 1400. If you ask him what
happened, he'll
> say it'll happen some day.


Again, "You have said so" is the appropriate answer.


Mervyn
BTW, Trump insisted today that Obama and Hilary were the co-founders of
ISIS. I now expect President Trump to arrest both of them in February,
2017. I like to be in town the day before the circus arrives. I would
encourage you to be a real tiger and arrive early too. Keep in mind that
there is the real possibility of Trump anointing himself Emperor shortly
after.

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Gabe Menezes]

On 11 August 2016 at 14:10, Roland  wrote:

> This is why I enjoy reading Mervyn Lobo:
>
> First he says he'll move to the USA if Trump becomes POTUS. Then he says
> no, it's AFTER he is deposed by the Army. Come election time, a few more
> weird predictions and conditions will have been made for him to move.
>
> Further indications of "the world according to Mervyn Lobo" is given with
> "Hilary's arrest and the nomination of somebody called George Bush 43 years
> old to the Supreme Court". Who would emigrate to a country in chaos? I know
> who. Someone who can make money out of it all. Like the money he made on
> his previous prediction that the US financial system would collapse because
> they were printing money at will and Gold was where everyone should be.
>
> It's becoming so routine. We were supposed to have enjoyed the benefits of
> gold at 2000 an ounce because we would have bought it at 1400. If you ask
> him what happened, he'll say it'll happen some day.
>
> Roland Francis
> Toronto.
>
> COMMENT: For what it's worth, I think Trump will throw in the towel before
November.  This is what he said today:-

Donald Trump told CNBC on Thursday he will either win with his frank and
uncensored style of campaigning or enjoy a "very, very nice long vacation."

Republicans have long hoped Trump will pivot on his behavior, but in
the "Squawk
Box"  interview, he said:

Donald Trump told CNBC on Thursday he will either win with his frank and
uncensored style of campaigning or enjoy a "very, very nice long vacation."

Republicans have long hoped Trump will pivot on his behavior, but in
the "Squawk
Box"  interview, he said: "I'm a truth
teller. All I do is tell the truth. And if at the end of 90 days, I've
fallen short because I'm somewhat politically correct even though I'm
supposed to be the smart one and even though I'm supposed to have a lot of
good ideas, it's OK. I go back to a very good way of life."

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Roland]

This is why I enjoy reading Mervyn Lobo:

First he says he'll move to the USA if Trump becomes POTUS. Then he says no, 
it's AFTER he is deposed by the Army. Come election time, a few more weird 
predictions and conditions will have been made for him to move. 

Further indications of "the world according to Mervyn Lobo" is given with 
"Hilary's arrest and the nomination of somebody called George Bush 43 years old 
to the Supreme Court". Who would emigrate to a country in chaos? I know who. 
Someone who can make money out of it all. Like the money he made on his 
previous prediction that the US financial system would collapse because they 
were printing money at will and Gold was where everyone should be.

It's becoming so routine. We were supposed to have enjoyed the benefits of gold 
at 2000 an ounce because we would have bought it at 1400. If you ask him what 
happened, he'll say it'll happen some day.

Roland Francis
Toronto.

> On Aug 11, 2016, at 12:25 AM, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Roland wrote:
>> 
>> Did you see how Parrikar is as quiet as a chicken except for his inane
>> statements on unimportant subjects using atrocious pronunciation.
>> 
>> If Trump becomes President, watch him doing the Parrikar and Mervyn Lobo
>> relocating to the USA (as promised).
> 
> 
> Roland Francis,
> When Trump becomes President, the first thing he would do is have Hilary
> arrested.
> 
> His second action would be to appoint George Bush (43) to the Supreme Court.
> 
> I want to be back in Washington, DC when the army overthrows Trump.
> 
> Mervyn
> BTW, my bags are already packed.

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Mervyn Lobo]

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Roland wrote:

> Did you see how Parrikar is as quiet as a chicken except for his inane
> statements on unimportant subjects using atrocious pronunciation.
>
> If Trump becomes President, watch him doing the Parrikar and Mervyn Lobo
> relocating to the USA (as promised).
>
>


Roland Francis,
When Trump becomes President, the first thing he would do is have Hilary
arrested.

His second action would be to appoint George Bush (43) to the Supreme Court.

I want to be back in Washington, DC when the army overthrows Trump.

Mervyn
BTW, my bags are already packed.

[Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Roland]

I am seeing a lot more in common with these two politicians than meets the eye.

Do you think Parrikar would come to the eye of Modi and become the Defence 
Minister of the country from being the CM of a tiny state if he:

Did not talk of Zero Corruption no matter what his 'live and let live' 
intention.

Did not make a bosom friend out of Goa's Catholic patriarch.

Did not buy out the administration's top prosecutor.

Did not be an obedient pracharak of the RSS and a Yes Man of the BJP's brass.

Did not promise to remove all casinos from Goa while letting them provide him 
with hush money.

Similarly do you think Trump would have led the pack of 17 Republican wannabe 
Presidents going on to win the GOP race if he did not:

Villify the Muslims, America's favourite whipping boys.

Promise to win all future wars.

Promise to bring lost jobs home again.

Promise to repeal existing trade treaties because they were not favourable to 
the country.

Build a wall with Mexico and make them pay for it.

Promise to make America great again.

Did you see how Parrikar is as quiet as a chicken except for his inane 
statements on unimportant subjects using atrocious pronunciation.

If Trump becomes President, watch him doing the Parrikar and Mervyn Lobo 
relocating to the USA (as promised).

Roland Francis
Toronto.