Re: [Goanet] Which fort is featured in this photo??
Roland Francis wrote; > That means the NYTI has made a major boo-boo. The fort was not > built by the Portuguese and it is not in Goa. Time was when major > international newspapers had credibility and a reputation to support >, which doesn't seem to be the case now. Roland, Everybody makes mistrakes. When I point out errors, most people take it the wrong way and become enemies for life. On the other hand, spotting errors in the financial markets is very rewarding. That is why shorting is a quicker and much more lucurative method of making money. > The Adil Shahs themselves had come into possession of it from a > minor Hindu king of the region. It is surrounded by water on all 4 > sides, of which 3 sides comprise the Arabian sea. Nearly all of the forts in the Indian Ocean were built to protect trading ports. These trading ports are located in places where there is a swift (deep) channel and a long shallow beach. Traders needed currents for a quick exit as well as the shallows where they could prop their vessels up for repairs. The best fishing spots are where the deep water chanels meet with the shallows. Fishing in front of any fort usually produces good results. My all time favourite spot is located just off the Portuguese fort in Mafia, Tanzania. > Guess I haven't earned an egg-nog from Bosco after all. Well, there are much worse ways to earn egg-nog. In Texas you get rewarded with eggnog only after completeing a 15K run. Mervyn --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Which fort is featured in this photo??
Bosco, Gabe, JoeGoaUK, and Mervyn, I emailed Naresh Fernandes who wrote the article in the NYT International (formerly the International Herald-Tribune) about the identity of the fort and he told me that it is Vijaydurg in Konkan Maharashtra. That means the NYTI has made a major boo-boo. The fort was not built by the Portuguese and it is not in Goa. Time was when major international newspapers had credibility and a reputation to support, which doesn't seem to be the case now. This particular fort was built in 1205, more than 725 years before the picture in the NYTI article was taken (1927). 143 years after the Portuguese conquered Goa in 1510, the fort was captured from the Adil Shahis (Idalcaos) of Bijapur by Shivaji who went on to expand its acreage. The Adil Shahs themselves had come into possession of it from a minor Hindu king of the region. It is surrounded by water on all 4 sides, of which 3 sides comprise the Arabian sea. Vijaydurg is in Deogad which is a western region of Ratnagiri district famous for its luscious and world famous Alphonso mangoes, of which the Deogad crops are supposed to be the tastiest. Thanks to JGUK for his fascinating pics of some Goa forts. The history behind each of them is fascinating. For example the Alorna fort in Satari was captured by a Portuguese Almeida, count of Alorna, who had a very interesting tussle with the Bonsales of Sawantwadi and gained it by a mix of cunning, treachery and valor. Guess I haven't earned an egg-nog from Bosco after all. Roland Toronto. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Which fort is featured in this photo??
On 21 December 2011 17:25, JoeGoaUk wrote: > Thanks. > Perhaps the fort is not from Goa (Daman?) > Also, the locals there seems in their non-Goan attire > > quote: > > [Goanet] Which fort is featured in this photo?? > > > Which fort in Goa is featured in the photo at this link?? > > http://nyti.ms/sW7D0H > > Thank you - B > I had posted a link herelooks like the Fort in Diu - stop it on 2.23 to 2.25 http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Rrx0W_5KmQo&vq=hd720 -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Which fort is featured in this photo??
Thanks. Perhaps the fort is not from Goa (Daman?) Also, the locals there seems in their non-Goan attire quote: [Goanet] Which fort is featured in this photo?? Which fort in Goa is featured in the photo at this link?? http://nyti.ms/sW7D0H Thank you - B joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Which fort is featured in this photo??
roland.francis wrote: > Bosco, definitely Chapora fort for the following reasons looking at the > photograph where it is mentioned 'Portuguese built'. Roland, Unfortunately, you will have to work a little harder for your egg-nog. Chapora Fort is located on a hill top. On the Morjim side of the river, there is only beach, and no rocks as shown in the 1927 picture. The base of the fort is one of my favourite fishing spots. Here are pictures of the Chapora Fort for you to see with your own eyes. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/379303546/in/set-72157628512107141/ Mervyn --- --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Which fort is featured in this photo??
Bosco, definitely Chapora fort for the following reasons looking at the
photograph where it is mentioned 'Portuguese built'.
It is one of only three Portuguese built forts. The other two being Aguada on
the Mandovi at Panjim and the Corjuem fort in Aldona. Corjuem is small and
Aguada does not have the massive ramparts as in the pic. All other forts were
captured from the Mahrattas, the Bonsales or Akbar's armies, not built by the
Portuguese themselves.
Chapora is a big fort on a steep promontory on the widest mouth of the Chapora
river touching the Arabian sea. It's ramparts abut the water with the main gate
no more than 100m from the land's end. It's decrepit state would reflect the
1927 pic.
Goa has the following forts only:
Aguada on the mouth of the Mandovi.
Alorna in Pernem at the eastern end of the Chapora river.
Cabo de Rama in Canacona.
Chapora near Vagator beach.
Corjuem in Aldona.
Nanus at Satari near Valpoi.
Reis Magos at the northern bank of the Mandovi.
Tiracol at the estuary of the Tiracol river, the northernmost fort.
Any other guesses for the fort in the Herald Tribune picture.
Bosco, a Christmas rum-laced egg nog if mine is the correct answer.
Roland
Toronto.
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Which fort in Goa is featured in the photo at this link??
http://nyti.ms/sW7D0H
Thank you - B
Goa Uses Anniversary to Reimagine Itself
By NARESH FERNANDES
Five decades ago on Sunday, India’s armed forces marched into Goa to
dislodge the Portuguese from the tiny, palm-fringed colony the European
power had continued to hold on to 14 years after much of the rest of the
subcontinent had been freed from British rule.
Starting this week, India’s smallest state will mark 50 years of
democracy with a series of public concerts, a photo exhibition about its
independence struggle, the laying of a foundation stone for a memorial
to the 22 Indian soldiers who died in the 36-hour operation and the
inauguration of a restored 16th-century fort.
http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/goa-uses-anniversary-to-reimagine-itself/?scp=2&sq=Naresh%20Fernandes&st=cse
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[Goanet] Which fort is featured in this photo??
Which fort in Goa is featured in the photo at this link?? http://nyti.ms/sW7D0H Thank you - B Goa Uses Anniversary to Reimagine Itself By NARESH FERNANDES Five decades ago on Sunday, India’s armed forces marched into Goa to dislodge the Portuguese from the tiny, palm-fringed colony the European power had continued to hold on to 14 years after much of the rest of the subcontinent had been freed from British rule. Starting this week, India’s smallest state will mark 50 years of democracy with a series of public concerts, a photo exhibition about its independence struggle, the laying of a foundation stone for a memorial to the 22 Indian soldiers who died in the 36-hour operation and the inauguration of a restored 16th-century fort. http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/goa-uses-anniversary-to-reimagine-itself/?scp=2&sq=Naresh%20Fernandes&st=cse --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
