[Goanet] A tale of ulhas-os

2009-10-12 Thread Antonio Menezes

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''' Ec canantulean aik ani dusrea canantulean bhair udoi '''  We do read
novels based on this principle
and above all for the sake of entertainment.

Thank you, Dr. Colaco for treating my rantings  as  fiction material.

After all , when Dan Brown wrote  his novel  ''The Da Vinci Code '' he did
not expect it to be
stored in libraries alongside serious historical books.

Antonio


Re: [Goanet] A tale of ulhas-os

2009-10-11 Thread Valmiki Faleiro


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Dear Antonio Menezes,

Please stop spreading such unadulterated rubbish. If you don't know enough,
or in doubt, you must leave out -- or find out.

1. Where was the epicentre of the plague? In Carambolim, now Karmali?

2. What caused the plague ... the same grandmother story of dead elephants in
the Carambolim lake? Or was it sanitation in the city proper?

3. Did the plague descend upon Old Goa in the mid-18th Century? Check your
dates from recorded history.

4. Did your Korbomle-kars migrate only to Vel-he (Velim)? Have you heard of
the Lobos and others in Bardez (chiefly in Calangute)? Where did they migrate 
from?
What about those settled in St. Estevam (Jua)?

5. Families like Colaco, Barros and Vaz Falcao settled in Ambelim and Velim,
on the eastern banks of Salcete's River Sal. But what about those in Orlim, by 
the
Salcete river's western banks? Were they your ''Speedy Gonzalez '' who dropped
from heaven?

6. Are you a CHONNEKAR from Velim, as against a ZONNKAR from Carambolim?
If not, why the factually incorrect assertion in the last sentence of your Para 
1? (Or were
you jilted by a 'zonnkar' girl that now evokes your misplaced ire/tepid fire?)

7. More rubbish in your Paragraph 2. What about the Valladares settled in 
Verna, and
the Mussolini Pachecos in Majorda? Did they also speedily fall like manna 
from the
skies? As against your articulated facade, your ignorance stand out.

8. If something itches your one hand, scratch just that one. The absurd 
diatribe below,
denigrating an entire community, is entirely sick and uncalled for.

9. If you didn't know, other than Fidalgos and some so-called native Brahmin 
aristocracy,
the community from Carambolim, was for long the richest village community of 
Goa,
both pre- and post-plague.

Check your facts, pal, before you look at your foot and decide to open your 
mouth.
v



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Subject: [Goanet] A tale of ulhas-os



It all started when a plague virus descended upon the inhabitants of Old
Goa  in mid 18th century.
Its people ran away as far as they could from the epicentre of the plague.
Most of them migrated to
Bardez via canoes plying in the rivers between Divar and Chorao islands. The
well to do proceeded
towards Panjim  the new capital of Goa. But there were others from villages
surrounding Old Goa
like Korbomle who apparently did not fit in well with those who migrated to
Bardez and Panjim and
so they chose to flee down to South.They ran like ''Speedy Gonzalez '' till
they reached Vel-he and
did not wish to proceed any farther south.  So like an American general,
made their Custer's Last
Stand  and dug in Vel=he. Settled down in this village as moradores but
succeeded in landowning
business so much that they as moradores bhatkars  gave a sort of complex to
local gaunkar
bhatkars.

I wonder why bhatkars say from, Cansaulim, Majorda . Varca. Navelim and
Chinchinim did not welcome \
them in their midst, could it be  they suspected them to be potential
carriers, well, answers may
never be found.

Being so close and now so far away in Vel-he  for over two centuries from
the centro of power  in Old Goa
/Panjim may have made their hearts grow fonder  and it would be appear they
are still very much in
love with the Portuguese.


Re: [Goanet] A tale of ulhas-os

2009-10-11 Thread J. Colaco jc

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 Antonio Menezes wrote: It all started when a plague VIRUS descended
upon the inhabitants of Old Goa  in mid 18th century


Dear AM,

I enjoy reading your posts - as I enjoy fiction.

I do not know why my good friend Valmiki took you to Lakaki without
giving you the opportunity to explain your facts (and their
manufacturing process).

Having said that . I must confess that I did not know that the
disease, Plague (which hit Old Goa) .. was caused by the Plague
Virus.

Thank you for making me aware of this previously unknown information.

Now I know why I read your posts. It is because you check,
double-check and recheck your facts before you send them to GoaNet.

good wishes

jc

ps:

Please do NOT refer me to :
http://nhs.needham.k12.ma.us/cur/eng97_8/remsen/saki_justin/the_plague.htm

If you wish, you may refer to:

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/235627-overview  or

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/plague/  or

http://www.patient.co.uk/doctor/Plague.htm


[Goanet] A tale of ulhas-os

2009-10-10 Thread Antonio Menezes

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It all started when a plague virus descended upon the inhabitants of Old
Goa  in mid 18th century.
Its people ran away as far as they could from the epicentre of the plague.
Most of them migrated to
Bardez via canoes plying in the rivers between Divar and Chorao islands. The
well to do proceeded
towards Panjim  the new capital of Goa. But there were others from villages
surrounding Old Goa
like Korbomle who apparently did not fit in well with those who migrated to
Bardez and Panjim and
so they chose to flee down to South.They ran like ''Speedy Gonzalez '' till
they reached Vel-he and
did not wish to proceed any farther south.  So like an American general,
made their Custer's Last
Stand  and dug in Vel=he. Settled down in this village as moradores but
succeeded in landowning
business so much that they as moradores bhatkars  gave a sort of complex to
local gaunkar
bhatkars.

I wonder why bhatkars say from, Cansaulim, Majorda . Varca. Navelim and
Chinchinim did not welcome \
them in their midst, could it be  they suspected them to be potential
carriers, well, answers may
never be found.

Being so close and now so far away in Vel-he  for over two centuries from
the centro of power  in Old Goa
/Panjim may have made their hearts grow fonder  and it would be appear they
are still very much in
love with the Portuguese.