Re: [Goanet] Appeal for assistance to go to prom

2012-05-07 Thread E DeSousa
George Pinto writes:
A young Goan girl whose father tragically died a few years ago and who
relies on her mother's income to maintain the family and meet
expenses, is appealing for funds to go to her high school prom. This
is part of helping a young Goan girl's confidence and coming-of-age
high school ritual and providing her an opportunity she cannot afford
with a single parent

Cecil Pinto on the other hand writes:

I find your appeal intriguing.
What exactly are the expenses involved in going to a high school prom
that warrants a public appeal such as this? It is frivolous to appeal
for such a cause. There are many events that are similar to this
'coming-of-age high school ritual'. Will more such appeals be made for
her to participate in all these rituals?

Response:

Obviously this is a cultural thing. And yes it is a Big Deal for the young 
ones.I have sent my contribution as requested.
Hope Goa Sudharop gets sufficient donations to enable this young lady to 
present 
herself appropriately.
BTW a couple of years ago my young daughter was voted homecoming queen at her 
high school prom.

http://grandblancview.mihomepaper.com/news/2009-10-01/Front_Page/Homecoming_Queen_thrilled_to_be_honored.html


Best Regards,

E.


Re: [Goanet] Appeal for assistance to go to prom

2012-05-06 Thread Pandu Lampiao
Hey Cecil,
The person likely wants to rent a gown and accessories. In north am,
the prom is a big deal and the dress code can cost.

Incidentally, the north am prom also includes pre and post prom
parties (not suggesting the person would go to these dos).

*clearing my throat*...cha-men, no date to go to the Xaviers prom?

True, taking a date to the Xaviers prom by BEST no. 63/61 from Byculla
or the Bandra date by no.81, 83, 86 would be...yours truly
gate-crashed the senior prom, no date required and that patie-spoiler
Fr. E-m-ill spotted and promptly showed the door, only to return via
the stage door by the chappel!!!. The Xaviers prom came to life after
E-m-ill went to bed after 9!!

Think there was a strange rule during that time: the prom was reserved
for students of the current year so you were limited to who one could
bring as a date. Yikes, the gurls in the lit class wore their eye
glasses thick and were yawning by 9. Folks in antro or physiology were
lot mo fun- they were cool 'bout taking in quarters of brandy !!!

The Xaviers after-party was usually the reddish chai @ Mayrose and if
you were cash heavy, the Shamaiana.


On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Cecil Pinto cecilpi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear George,

 I find your appeal intriguing.

 What exactly are the expenses involved in going to a high school prom
 that warrants a public appeal such as this? It is frivolous to appeal
 for such a cause. There are many events that are similar to this
 'coming-of-age high school ritual'. Will more such appeals be made for
 her to participate in all these rituals?


 Cecil

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 Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 06:09:35 -0700 (PDT)
 From: George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Goanet] Appeal for assistance to go to prom


 Dear all,

 A young Goan girl whose father tragically died a few years ago and who
 relies on her mother's income to maintain the family and meet
 expenses, is appealing for funds to go to her high school prom. This
 is part of helping a young Goan girl's confidence and coming-of-age
 high school ritual and providing her an opportunity she cannot afford
 with a single parent.



Re: [Goanet] Appeal for assistance to go to prom

2012-05-06 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Cecil Pinto wrote:
 What exactly are the expenses involved in going to a high 
 school prom that warrants a public appeal such as this? It 
 is frivolous to appeal for such a cause. 



Hi Cecil,
What George is doing, is trying to help. Who knows, 
there may be a reader here who would be willing to lend a
helping hand. That one reader is all that the girl requires.


 When I was studying at St. Xavier's College in Mumbai I 
 couldn't go for the Annual College Dance because I couldn't 
 get any girl to go with me for the couples-only event. I also 
 didn't have enough money to pay for the entrance ticket and 
 money to pay the girls who would accompany you in for a fee. 
 It hurt at the time but I recovered soon enough. It's called growing up.



When I went for my graduation in Dar es Salaam, I saw the one
guy who beat me in every subject sitting in the visitors section of 
the hall. Shocked, I asked him why he was not sitting with the rest 
of the graduating class. He replied that his sponsor, a semi-govt 
business, had not yet paid his college fees. As such, the college was 
not going to award him his degree until the fees were paid.

This happened to the smartest guy in our graduating class.

Mervyn201


Re: [Goanet] Appeal for assistance to go to prom

2012-05-06 Thread Roland Francis
Dear Cecil,
I understand your opinion on this appeal and you are not wrong. I too have 
experience that matches yours, having gone both to a school and college that 
had rich kids who made up more than half of the student body and I underwent 
personal agony when I was called for events, being a popular guy, and chose not 
to go when I felt I could not match the spending that was called for. But that 
agony was only temporary and I moved on to participate in what I could afford. 

The prom is not a life and death ritual that you can't miss it because you 
can't fund it, except when you have created for yourself a superficial value 
system that sadly many young folk have fallen prey to. It is an important event 
in North America but not one in which a student would have to ask for funds to 
go to. Americans (and Canadians to a lesser extent) are charitable folk and if 
they even got a whiff of the needs of the student needing money for the prom, 
would have done several things to meet that need. The class would have raised 
funds, the school participated, individual students would have chipped in and 
neighborhood organizations would have quickly responded financially. The idea 
is to have fun and celebrate your school experience, not to have poorer kids 
left behind with sadness trailing them. Not to mention how the average kid 
works as many hours as they can, in restaurants, fast food and other 
student-employing minimum wage places to save for the event. I have a relative 
whose 16 year old worked as a waitress in a restaurant in Silver Springs MD for 
an entire summer and made enough in wages and tips to buy herself outright (no 
exaggeration), a new little Honda sports car even if low end. The average 
dinner for four costs about $250 and tips are routinely 20 to 25%.

The students in some rich schools can be very snotty. A brand name gown and 
shoes could set you back a thousand dollars. There is the limo to and fro and 
the cost of the hotel suites where the night after the dance is spent and 
expenses on food and liquor. And there is the pub crawling that goes on 
post-party. I am only saying this because you asked what the expenses could be 
and not in justification of the appeal.

You were right in saying that the girl asking for the funds might get wrong 
expectations in the future. I also noted that it was not Goa Sudharop that 
thought it appropriate to make the appeal on its own but that the girl involved 
asked for it.

Nevertheless I have faith that the GS team have weighed all the circumstances 
and found extenuating ones before making the appeal. The fact that we are only 
slightly enlightened on the appeal's merits does not mean that we know all that 
they do. George could have made a more convincing case though.

Roland.
Toronto.

-Original Message-
From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] 
On Behalf Of Cecil Pinto
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 3:26 AM
To: goa...@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet] Appeal for assistance to go to prom

Dear George,

I find your appeal intriguing.

What exactly are the expenses involved in going to a high school prom that 
warrants a public appeal such as this? It is frivolous to appeal for such a 
cause. There are many events that are similar to this 'coming-of-age high 
school ritual'. Will more such appeals be made for her to participate in all 
these rituals?





[Goanet] Appeal for assistance to go to prom

2012-05-05 Thread George Pinto
Dear all,

A young Goan girl whose father tragically died a few years ago and who relies 
on her mother's income to maintain the family and meet expenses, is appealing 
for funds to go to her high school prom. This is part of helping a young Goan 
girl's confidence and coming-of-age high school ritual and providing her an 
opportunity she cannot afford with a single parent.

If you wish to donate, please email or call our Goa Sudharop Management member 
Acaria Almeida at acariaalme...@yahoo.com or 1-925-324-0513 and let her know. 
For privacy reasons, we are not disclosing the young girl's name and family 
name. Your donation to GOA SUDHAROP is tax deductible (for USA residents) and 
you can pay through PAYPAL on the home page (DONATE NOW link) on the Goa 
Sudharop website (www.goasudharop.org) or mail a check made payable to GOA 
SUDHAROP, 18 WIMPOLE STREET, MORAGA, CALIFORNIA, 94556, USA.

Thank you.

Goa Sudharop
www.goasudharop.org