[Goanet] Fw: The US poll battle: race vs gender

2012-06-12 Thread roland . francis
The seeds of America's misery were sown by two recent events. Globalization, 
its attendant outsourcing and decimation of industry and the Wars in 
Afghanistan and Iraq.

Neither achieved any desirable results either for the US or the countries they 
were supposed to improve.

One was driven by corporate greed which went unchecked and further led to the 
global financial crisis and the other by American political naivete and deceit.

In Canada we are thankful for a leader like Jean Chretien in those troubled 
times. An experienced, honest and shrewd politician, he couldn't do much about 
outsourcing but kept the financial system well regulated. He refused to get 
Canada involved in the wars despite tremendous American pressure brought to 
bear on him.

Canada survived what America could not. Our natural resources,  innate fiscal 
prudence and socialist policies helped.

But God bless America and bring it back to its pre-eminence. 

Roland.
Toronto.

Roland Francis
416-453-3371

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From: Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au
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As an aside, I#39;ve just watched a disturbing documentary on USA. It appears 
that USA is imploding, i.e. collapsing on itself.

http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/story/about/id/601491/n/America-s-Shame



Re: [Goanet] Fw: The US poll battle:

2012-06-12 Thread Mervyn Lobo
roland.francis wrote:
 The seeds of America's misery were sown by two recent events. Globalization, 
 its attendant outsourcing and decimation of industry and the Wars in 
 Afghanistan and Iraq.

 Neither achieved any desirable results either for the US or the countries 
 they were supposed to improve.
 
 One was driven by corporate greed which went unchecked and further led to the 
 global 
 financial crisis and the other by American political naivete and deceit.


Roland,
The basis of capitalism is the efficient use of land, labour and capital. 
A capitalist is forced to set up operations where the above is the cheapest. 
Either that or die. This is the sole reason why the owners of capital, or those 
that control capital, are moving their operations to the developing world. The 
result of this, as you already know, is that the workers in the country where 
the capital is raised, lose their jobs. This is what capitalism is all about. 
Canadian manufacturing and financial companies are also, like their 
US counterparts, moving their operations to Mexico and India. It makes a lot of 
sense from the capitalist view point.

Socialism on the other hand, is more tuned to full employment for the workers 
in the country.

Secondly, the US adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan were financed by loans. It 
was all shock and awe. George Bush (43) did the right thing by declaring 
victory early, but forgot to leave those countries. The result? The US is 
borrowing more money, by the day, and pouring it into those two countries. 
Obama has now declared that victory will be announced in Afghanistan in 2014. 
Have you ever heard of any war where the victor knows the exact victory day 
years into the future? And then leaves?


As for the financial crises in the US, it is self made. Laws that were in place 
for decades, were removed by the financial lobby. This allowed the companies 
that sponsored the change in laws to take a lot of risks and make a lot of 
gains. Temporary. The party ended in 2008. Anyone who paid top dollar for a 
house then, is in pain. The most badly effected are the seniors and those who 
depend on interest from their savings. These people have been hit really hard. 



 In Canada we are thankful for a leader like Jean Chretien in those troubled 
 times. An experienced, 
 honest and shrewd politician, he couldn't do much about outsourcing but kept 
 the financial system 
 well regulated. He refused to get Canada involved in the wars despite 
 tremendous American pressure 
 brought to bear on him.


US style 40 year mortgages where the mortgage holder paid only interest and no 
capital back, had just started to make an appearance in Canada when the state 
owned mortgage insurance company asked the govt to ban these mortgages. Canada 
is lucky for this, else we would have ended in the same boat as the US, Spain, 
etc. In addition, financial laws that were in place since the depression of the 
1920's, were left untouched. This helped save our financial industry too.


 Canada survived what America could not. Our natural resources,  innate fiscal 
 prudence and socialist policies helped.

I agree.


 But God bless America and bring it back to its pre-eminence. 

I don't think God's blessing (or the lack of it) has anything to do with the US 
financial mess. The US is not dependent on God's help either. There is no place 
on earth like the US for innovation and discoveries. It will bounce back. In 
the meantime, there is a lot of money to be made from the financial crises.


Mervyn


Re: [Goanet] Fw: The US poll battle:

2012-06-12 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
Once can already see the effects of penny-pinching, by Microsoft at least. 
Since last December, all limited complimentary MSDN subscriptions given to IT 
companies (given for development / demo use) appear to have been withdrawn, and 
such companies now have to purchase their own licences. 
 
Microsoft have also appear to have started contacting each licence holder as to 
why they have not renewed their paid subscription (I had my own 2-year paid 
subscription which I allowed to lapse as I was given a company subscription 
last year). I was surprised to receive a call from the Singapore distribution 
center asking me reasons for not renewing. I wonder if this is a first inkling 
that Microsoft is in difficulties. 



From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca
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The basis of capitalism is the efficient use of land, labour and capital. 
A capitalist is forced to set up operations where the above is the cheapest. 
Either that or die.