[Goanet] GMC MORGUE WAS A MULTI CRORE SWINDLE
On 19th December 2013 Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar had inaugurated the so called State of the Art Forensic block cum Morgue at the Goa Medical College in Bambolim which was built at a whopping cost of over 40 crores. It’s almost five long years and that new morgue is not yet operational with post-mortems still being conducted in the old rotting and dilapidated morgue. The four new autopsy tables which were bought for over a crore are rusting unused as the project was not designed properly with no proper drainage and ventilation facilities in place. This fiasco loaded venture was executed by the Goa State Infrastructure Development Corporation while Dr Pramod Sawant was the then Vice- Chairman. The whole project smacks of a multi crore scam and must be probed by the Vigilance department. Time to formalize the scamsters who have not even spared the morgue in their evil designs. The role if any of the then Head of the department must come under the scanner. Is it a coincidence that a very saffron Assistant Professor of the Forensic department who was overseeing this flawed project also built a massive palatial bungalow for himself at that time? Aires Rodrigues Advocate High Court C/G-2, Shopping Complex Ribandar Retreat, Ribandar – Goa – 403006 Mobile No: 9822684372 Office Tel No: (0832) 2444012 Email: airesrodrigu...@gmail.com Or airesrodrig...@yahoo.com You can also reach me on Facebook.com/ AiresRodrigues Twitter@rodrigues_aires www.airesrodrigues.com
Re: [Goanet] GMC DOCTORS WORK SHOULD BE APPRECIATED
On May 13, 2016, at 10:33 PM, Stephen Dias wrote: "I would like to defer from Dr. Oscar in his last "para" that the doctors at the GMC can be compensated by doing a private practice which I feel is against the norms and ethics of medical council and the Government of Goa. Deputy Chief Minister of Health Francisco D'Sousa, should not encourage this kind of private practice in Goa, to come up as it is a violation of rules in force." COMMENT: A retrogressive thought process from Mr. Stephen Dias. I come from a system which retains the best professionals in the public system by allowing them limited private practice'outside hours'. I have yet to see any of my colleagues not give their due to the 'public' patients. It goes back to the culture of professionalism and pride in the profession. This is something I do not expect non-professionals to understand. j colaco
[Goanet] GMC HOSPITAL UNDER NEW HEALTH MINISTER FRANCIS D'SOUZA SHOWS SIGNS OF UPGRADATION
Dear Hon. Dy. CM Francis D'Souza,Health Minister of Goa Hats off to you for taking up the issue of GMC more importantly about the drain of Govt. exchequer which was leaking out on Non Goans patients who have been taking full advantage of medicines and other treatment at the Hospital, and that now they have to pay. So far, all the Health Ministers have come and gone and nobody thought of this until Francis has realize that this is a must to control the cash flow. Goans have so far been treated as second citizens at GMC and the advantage was taken by mostly Non-Goans who are especially coming from nearby states. Recently I have taken up GMC issue which appeared in "The Goan" newspaper and immediately the acting Dean has sorted out certain points raised by me , within his powers and others are mostly of administrative nature, which is to be taken care by the Superintendent of GMC. Yesterday and day before yesterday, I had been to GMC and tried to meet the Medical Superintendent who happen to be on leave for 2 days. When I was waiting outside her chamber, I saw a rat going inside her office and that her driver who was standing there told me that these are been produced at the area where temple is existing because people come and feed them and their population increases. Immediately I went to see that area and surprisingly I have found that chicks being fed and also the dogs seen in this area. ( see the photo enclosed). It was disgusting to see that close to the Casuality ward these kind of animals are domesticated at GMC. I had some more problems to be told to the Medical Superintendent who was not available at that time. In fact, I had a problem of parking at GMC and that I had to park far away beyond the morgue and for senior citizen and cardiac patients to reach the Cardiology ward is quite a distance which I took nearly 2o to 25 minutes to reach, by walk. I find there are so many vehicles parked everyday at the GMC campus which I think that Health Minister must think of having a Multi-storage parking at the campus itself so that many vehicles can be accommodated and that the serious patients can be left at the doorsteps of the particular ward and then go for parking. I feel it is a must as the patients including disable ones can get relief to visit this Hospital. While walking, I have noticed that the tiles fixed on the road and at the pavement have come up and there are chances to dislocate the ankles while walking which needs to be taken care by the PWD periodically. Dustbins are not available at the ward and that people are seen throwing dirt at the corner of these walls of ward. I know there are CCP dust bins at the campus but it is necessary to have to be available close to the wards with close lids. Drinking water is also non available near the wards. People are seen sleeping outside the wards. It is suggested some chairs or benches to fix it up exclusive for those attendant of admitted patients coming and waiting for calls when doctors wants to see them. I have seen crowd waiting outside the wards mostly Non Goans and sleeping on ground with paper sheets and having food and consuming tender coconuts etc and that may contaminate the ward patients health and create garbage. Otherwise our GMC is a better Hospital equipped with best instruments with good doctors and nurses than in other parts of India. Most of the staff and doctors in the Hospital are kind for the people. The fees for stents and other gadgets for surgery, must be made free for Govt. employees and that for the rich people needs to be made available on payment or on discounted rates and for others on subsidy. Medicines must be made easily available in pharmacies and it is notice there is a rush for it as less pharmacies are seen at the campus to cater the flow of patients. The only one xerox shop facility is seen inside the Hospital which is always crowded . This facility should be well organised for a common man. Telephone booth and more ATM's must be fixed up by the concerned authorities at the Hospital for those who come at the Hospital. There are poor people who do not have mobiles but the Govt must make arrangements to get Telephone booth facilities. The security staff must be tightened as any Tom, Dick and Harry is seen wandering all around the Hospital for no reasons. Will the present Health Minister look at these grievances and help our Goans at the GMC ? OPD counter have no facilities for senior citizens and that a TV monitor adjacent to it, is fitted to the wall at the OPD counter, which is always out of order . More TV monitor may be fixed at convenient places because of rush. CCTV also should be installed as a precautionary measures. Stephen DiasI am the Goan 0005D.Pauladate; 26th Nov. 2014 === Non-Goans may have to pay at government hospitals’TNN | Nov 26, 2014, 02.00 AM IST inShare Comments
Re: [Goanet] GMC
On 13 September 2010 07:33, Dan Driscoll wrote: But do not Med Students at the great GMC (Asia's First Medical College) have dissection of human cadaver as part of their Syllabus? I suppose I should be going directly to GMC about this; but maybe there are those in our posting community who can comment. COMMENT: Dear Dan, GMC was born in 1963. It is not the first medical college in Asia. The first medical school in Asia was the Escola Medico Cirurgica de Nova Goa or the 'escola medica". >From my knowledge of their curriculum, it has a very strong Anatomy component. Escola students studied anatomy in much more detail (and in French) than those of us who did the MBBS program at GMC. I remember Dr. Dessai who was my lecturer in Anatomy. He was from the Escola era. Not only did he deal with us in a super-gentlemanly manner, he was an excellent teacher. My understanding is that, in the escola days, cadavers were not always available for dissection purposes. So, plastic models were at hand. hope this helps jc http://www.colaco.net/2/PercivalNoronhaEscola.htm
Re: [Goanet] GMC hospital woes
I know for a fact that pre-Dec1961, military doctors (Navy/Army) and nurses used to assist the local doctors in major hospitals. Perhaps the Indian military could likewise come to the assistance of the GMC and provide places in their hospitals for the civilians? Or are these premises so secret that they are out-of-bounds? - Original Message > From: jose colaco > To: goa...@goanet.org > Sent: Mon, 30 November, 2009 1:30:45 AM > Subject: Re: [Goanet] GMC hospital woes > > > (a) It was inevitable that GMC would be flooded (besides with water) with > patients from surrounding areas of Karnataka. Poor people go to places they > are > able to receive free health-care. > > > Shortage of beds leaves newborns in GMC corridor > TNN 28 November 2009, 04:40am IST > __ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/
Re: [Goanet] GMC hospital woes
First of all, I want to commend Gaspar Almeida and Uly Menezes for the tremendous service they continue to provide esp for Goans in and from the Gulf. I say to them Keep up the good work. I also say to the good Goans from the Gulf. Esp in these difficult economic times conserve your funds. Please remember too: All the funds you waste on hosting these worthless Goa politicians will ONLY gain you promises.which will NEVER be kept. After that, you will be forgotten AND also blamed for the rise in the cost of living in Goa. RE : the following article relating to GMC. There are two parts to this story (a) Inevitable (b) Shame (a) It was inevitable that GMC would be flooded (besides with water) with patients from surrounding areas of Karnataka. Poor people go to places they are able to receive free health-care. The present over-crowding of GMC is just the tip of the iceberg. Do remember that trainloads of people arrive in Goa daily via the George Fernandes Railgaddi. We know where they turn up for their 'daily activities'. Guess where they will turn up for healthcare? The healthcare tab is one which Goan taxpayers will have to pick up and manage. One way GMC will manage this load is by naturally lowering the standard of health care. Where will the Goan taxpayers go for their healthcare? Perhaps, Goans should organise more IFFIs - so that they can escape reality more often. I have a feeling that Caju Feni will NOT be enough. To those among us who have NOT yet heeded the words of Rajan Parrikar . I say "All the Best". Please cut off your fans - for, this stuff will surely hit your fans in short order. (b) It is a shame that the GMC hospitals which were of 5-star hotel standards not too long ago, have been reduced to ghettos. Thank you Goa politicians and bhaille civil servants. In spite of this, GMC continues to produce world-class doctors and lots of money for the corrupt ones who claim to be 'managing' the place. just my view jc and Yes: A very big Thank you to ALL the Freedom Fighters (real and alleged). I hope you are taking credit for this brilliant mess YOU organised without organising squat. What did you say? I must come and fight it out there instead of just being an Expat (as the veritable journo, Frederick Noronha would say)? Right. Goa World wrote: Shortage of beds leaves newborns in GMC corridor TNN 28 November 2009, 04:40am IST PANAJI: Cradling their newly born babies in their arms, mothers or their kin had to sit on the floor or on seats in the corridor for want of bed space in the obstetrics and gynaecology ward of the Goa Medical College and Hospital, Bambolim on Friday, raising fears of the babies and mothers being exposed to infections and possibly unhygienic conditions. Confusion prevailed in and outside the ward as mothers, and in some cases relatives, sat with the newborn babies in the corridor, waiting hopefully for abed to fall empty and to lay the babies in cradles. My daughter delivered at 3pm and she has not yet been given a bed, a middle-aged woman told TOI pointing to her daughter sitting on a concrete bench along with relatives of other patients. Another mother who had delivered three days ago was sitting in a cubicle outside one of the wards along with three other women holding babies. We are hoping to get a bed soon, one of them said. GMC medical superintendent, Rajan Kunkolienkar conceded that problems had arisen due to over admission of patients to the obstetrics and gynaecology ward. This happens once in four or six months. This is because we cannot refuse admissions as people come to the hospital from all over Goa and even border areas such as Karwar and Sawantwadi, he said. The 160-bed capacity is not enough and the pressure on the GMC infrastructure increases as expecting mothers bypass district hospitals and primary health care centres and come directly to GMC, he added. A delivery cannot wait nor can we refuse them admissions,said Kunkolienkar, adding that the problem will be tackled. We are trying to make adjustments to accommodate everybody, he said.
Re: [Goanet] GMC
JC: wrote: To Cajetan's question as to What can we do? here are some thoughts: (f) Setfire under the butts of these Goa journos. -- Cajetan asked: Are you implying that we appeal to our Uncle FN to do something about this, or set fire to his butt? -- FN responded: Aww, comon, Cajuloal! Don't spoil JC's fun. What would be a Goa-related debate without dragging in the Goa journos, the Siddhis, and the Daman bridge? Why deprive him of the priviledge of equating Goa's problems with the Goa media, the Goa media with the media that is visible online, and the latter with FN (directly or by implication)! -- jc's response: Dear Cajetan, FN has spoken for himself. Hence, I do not believe that it's worth traveling in that direction. A man can only speak for himself wrt what he is capable and incapable of doing. So ...in general about GMC: What certainly might help is IF there is a sustained press campaign putting pressure on Government to do the needful. We do not need to re-invent the wheel. Sustained press pressure (based on a broad and reasonable analysis of the available facts, of course) has brought about significant changes in open democracies. After a few episodes of sustained pressure, the readership (populace) does get a wee bit more informed and active. Politicians take note of such movements in popular sentiments. In a small place like Goa, the 'vote banks' having been noted, a marginal shift in the voting patterns can mean a totally different political party in Government. Politicians are quite sensitive to their own needs of getting re-elected. BUT, the Press needs to be credible. It CANNOT expect people online or out-of-line to trust it when alleged-journos print blatant inaccuracies and then stubbornly refuse to withdraw those inaccuracies - getting all very defensively hypersensitive about it, in the bargain. If the Press is NOT credible, there is an Odds On chance for the average Joe or Janardhan will say "How do I know that it is not another Siddi or Daman bridge (embellished with unverified and impossible factoids) story. Therein lies the future of GMC or any other institution of that kind in Goa. As long as there is an Un-vibrant alleged journo-club sitting in the laps of the politicians, we will continue to have stories of GMC come out every now and again..from those who have suffered the horrible disgrace reported by Yvonne. The average public will say: Paadd poddlem thae GMCik The doctors and nurses will bear it and keep quiet unless they want a remote-transfer. The politicians will say: Donttucch worry. and the Alleged journos will defend their failure by saying: Why deprive him of the privilege of equating Goa's problems with the Goa media? Think about it. One day, every one of us (or our loved ones) may need GMC. The VIPs will get their VIP rooms. The rest will have to accept shared accommodation; shared with rats, dogs and cats. But, I suppose - there is more than a possibility that FN is correct. FN and the Goa-Press have in fact been putting a whole pile of pressure on the "powers that be" at GMC - and some of us who are on-line only) cannot see or read, and writing from an ignorant point of view. That is entirely possible. Assuming (patronisingly, of course) that all who write about GMC, rely on on-line new-sites. They do not have telephones or email communications. They have not visited GMC, They have not studied and worked at GMC, They haven't "rounded" at GMC in the recent past and seen for themselves. They do not have GMC experiences shared by others who have just recently passed through that system. Yep they rely solely on On-Line websites of Goa Newspapers.! Yep!! I thought that only politicians and ostriches were made of this stuff. But hey one learns every day. When we have such sentiments expressed by Goa journos who have such prominent positions on the web and in tea-shop clubs .I suppose, Goans will be left only with accepting their Karma (at least) with regards to GMC. Just accept it and move ahead, becomes the only reasonable solution. For ...the populace will be no one keeping a watch on the "admin" ...whatever that is and whatever it does or does not do. However, do notice how the Press chappies will swing into action when they want to spread some 'saucy' private details about (say) an athlete who commits suicide. sincerely jc
Re: [Goanet] GMC
Aww, comon, Cajuloal! Don't spoil JC's fun. What would be a Goa-related debate without dragging in the Goa journos, the Siddhis, and the Daman bridge? Why deprive him of the priviledge of equating Goa's problems with the Goa media, the Goa media with the media that is visible online, and the latter with FN (directly or by implication)! As for me, it only opened my eyes to the fact that there are other themes byond Goa where one can write without needless abuse and scorn being poured on one's head... which was something for the good! FN 2009/7/5 Cajetan Alvares : > J. Colaco: > To Cajetan's question as to What can we do? here are some thoughts(f) Set > fire under the butts of these Goa journos. > -- > Hi JC, > Are you implying that we appeal to our Uncle FN to do something about this, > or set fire to his butt? > Caj. -- FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/fn M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 http://fredericknoronha.multiply.com/ http://goa1556.goa-india.org "Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time." - Steven Wright
[Goanet] GMC
J. Colaco: To Cajetan's question as to What can we do? here are some thoughts(f) Set fire under the butts of these Goa journos. -- Hi JC, Are you implying that we appeal to our Uncle FN to do something about this, or set fire to his butt? Caj.
Re: [Goanet] GMC
Correct to a t- I was being rather more simplistic :-) - Original Message From: Roland Francis To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Sunday, 5 July, 2009 3:47:49 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] GMC Pardon my french and not to put too fine a point on it, the actual meaning is "the more it changes, the more it remains the same". Roland. On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote: sudden it seems that "plus ça change, plus même chose". For those whose French is weak, that means everything is the same as before. > > Cheers, > > Gabriel. Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: [Goanet] GMC
Pardon my french and not to put too fine a point on it, the actual meaning is "the more it changes, the more it remains the same". Roland. On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote: sudden it seems that "plus ça change, plus même chose". For those whose French is weak, that means everything is the same as before. > > Cheers, > > Gabriel.
Re: [Goanet] GMC
Cajetan's, Yvonne's and Jose's emails add to what I have been saying since my last letter to NT circa Spetember 2000 re GMC. At the time I had remarked about the scrawl on the canteen wall "Garbos will take over". I had also suggested, in my layman terms, what could be done to reduce the incidence of filth around the hospital, by supplying the cleaners with appropriate colour-coded wheelie bins. Looks like that letter and suggestions have gone unheeded. Perhaps there's no money. From what I have observed in Goa and in India in general, there's heaps of money (and of course prestige and money under the table for the "ruling" ministers) for capital expenditure, but it seems there's none (and no prestige preceived) for running expenses. There might be pots of money for a new wing and an underpass, but none to pay for the upkeep of the existing bulidings, to keep the windows clean, to ensure that walls are given a fresh coat of paint (other than the paan variety), and blinking tubelights replaced. Oh, new equipment is all the rage, but maintaining existing equipment, who cares? There's no money to be made by the corruption chain for upkeep or periodic replenishment of wear and tear items like bedsheets and towels. Commenting on Jose's observations: GMC administration: White-collar workers in India have a rather blinkered vision - if it is not within role, they will not do it, nor will they bother about informing about the issue to their superiors or ensure that something is done about it. This could be due to fear, or just apathy. The infamous Union Carbide Bhopal tragedy was basically due to the fact that the manager (with battery manufacturing experience but none in chemical industry) could not / refused to understand what his "lower-class" employees were telling him. Education in India, it seems, borders on creating, what I could term, "idiot savants", i.e. know everything about a subject, nil else. The GMC adminstration know everything about management in theory, but probably know absolutely nothing on how to manage a hospital. Therefore, I still maintain that the day the Dean picks up a broom because the cleaner hasn't turned up, will be the day of "India shining". Comenting on Yvonnes statement "The doctors and many of the nurses worked hard and tirelessly and were too scared to complain for fear of being transferred." and Jose's comments:"Dean retorted "That is OK. It should not bother you. You do your studies and go" " and "I was told by each of the "bhaille" (paraphrase)Joe, you are my friendbut we have a family we don't want to jeopardise their welfare by rocking the boat." ... Yeah scared. To complain. Not only in the GMC, but the Police Force too, and other Govt departments. Whatever happened to "Freedom of Speech" that all the folks on this forum are talking about? So what changed between pre-1962 and post-1962 status of "freedom of speech"? Even of those who came from outside of Goa to save this "sorrowing" land? All of a sudden it seems that "plus ça change, plus même chose". For those whose French is weak, that means everything is the same as before. Cheers, Gabriel. Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: [Goanet] GMC
Cajetan brings up a very good point in response to Yvonne's post - which BTW is very factual. Let me suggest the following: (a) Those who sit in what is called 'GMC administration' do not have/or want to have a clue of the conditions in which patients are treated (if I can use that word) and doctors/nurses work in. (b) As long as the VIPs get treated in "A1" facilities, there will be no problem. (c) Many conscientious doctors/nurses eventually give up - get their training/work experience and go to pastures where at least the funds are better. (d) (I believe that) The worse the public hospitals are, the better the business for the private facilities. So, there might be some method to this madness. (e) Over the years, Goans have accepted increasing filth as the acceptable face of norm. I say this again, as long as they have their little 'chokra boys' to do their dirty work, they are fine. Similarly, it can be suggested that most of the 'elite' do not use the GMC facilities. So, Why should they complain about GMC? Why should they take a stand about the ONLY tertiary medical facility which all in Goa may have to use when push comes to shove? That it is used by folks from all over the Ghats, is a totally different issue. I ask: What facilities do these so called freedom-fighters use when they fall ill? How come they are NOT on the streets to protest at this degradation of Goans which continues under their noses? Hello Mr. Prabhakar Sinari, Naguesh Karmali and Dr. Teotonio de Souza! Are you planning any letters to the editor and morchas in protest? Or is this important issue not in your enlightened self interests? To Cajetan's question as to What can we do? here are some thoughts (f) Set fire under the butts of these Goa journos. Pressurise them to publish investigative reports. There is nothing like adverse publicity. Admin-folks have their ready made responses to such criticism. However, trust me, it bothers them. (g) Every time these 'brilliant' politicians make glorious speeches about 'end of colonialism' - publish a story about this economic colonialism which is practised in the field of health care. And it is true, IF a doctor/nurse complains,- a transfer order to the remotest part of nowhere will be pronto. (h) Every time the 'brilliant' freedom-fighters have a morcha to protest (say) the 500th or 515th anniversary of Vasco da Gama's travel to India have a counter-morcha protesting the conditions at GMC (or the road traffic or the filth in the eat houses) (i) Every time a (say) lawyer decides to go after the mother of a teenage girl who is brutally murdered by some goons in Goa, have a press conference about the state of GMC. These lawyers and politicians may be treated in VIP rooms by whatever name, ordinary people like you and me will get to see rats and holey-sheets. I must conclude with this: This is not about any particular political party or Minister of Health. It is about the garbage leadership that GMC has had to endure over the past several decades. After all, Goa hospitals were not in this shape - always. I was the editor of the GMC wallpaper (run by students) during my final year. I published pictures and stories about Cats, Dogs and Rats sharing accommodation with the children admitted to the pediatric ward. There was also a picture of 'running water at GMC' .only the water was an over-flow from the toilet bowls. As you might have expected - I was hauled to the Dean's office and told to remove the pictures. "What if the press finds out?" But Sir these conditions are going on for years! - I remarked. To this the "bhaillo" Dean retorted "That is OK. It should not bother you. You do your studies and go" And ...the petrified (of the bhaillo) Goan faculty just looked the other way. I then went to the Navhind Times ...which quite interestingly at that time had Menon, Nair, Balan in the driver's seat (how convenient) and (perhaps because Goans do not know good English) had folks like Cyril D'Cunha on the sports desk. I was told by each of the "bhaille" (paraphrase)Joe, you are my friendbut we have a family we don't want to jeopardise their welfair by rocking the boat. So after I completed what I had to do at GMC I took the slow boat to wherever. jc == [1] Yvonne Pereira thus wrote about the disappointment known as GMC : The doctors and many of the nurses worked hard and tirelessly and were too scared to complain for fear of being transferred. [2] Cajetan Alvares wrote thus in response: Complaining is one thing, doing something about it is another. I do agree that the Doctors and Nurses are working very hard at GMC and are devoted to helping the patients. The administration should make their life a bit easier, patients come and go. Can any one on this net please tell us how other than complaining here can we act?
[Goanet] GMC
Yvonne Pereira of Caranzalem: The doctors and many of the nurses worked hard and tirelessly and were too scared to complain for fear of being transferred. --- Hi All, Complaining is one thing, doing something about it is another. I do agree that the Doctors and Nurses are working very hard at GMC and are devoted to helping the patients. The administration should make their life a bit easier, patients come and go. Can any one on this net please tell us how other than complaining here can we act? Caj.
[Goanet] GMC
In March 2004, I had the misfortune of having an Aunt admitted to the GMC. I was appalled at the time to see the condition of the hospital and was therefore, surprised and amazed to know that now in 2009 the conditions have not improved. Well, I guess they have improved if bedsheets are to be found with holes! We were kindly asked to use newspapers when we told the powers that be that we couldn't go home and get the sheets that were needed urgently!! Remo had just returned his winnings at the IFFI in protest over the conditions at the GMC and at the time I felt he was being "over the top", my experience confirmed his stand. Seriously ill patients had to be hoisted by nurses standing on the bed on to ricketty trollies to be taken for x-rays etc. There was no cotton, hot water, screens etc. Water dripped from the ceilings of washrooms giving one a shower from the top floor. Dirty linen was thrown and left in a corner of the ward. The doctors and many of the nurses worked hard and tirelessly and were too scared to complain for fear of being transferred. Earlier this year, I gave a lift to an unknown nurse from the GMC. She was totally depressed and said that she wanted to leave because the working conditions were so bad. She told me about rats eating patients feet, about lack of clothes for patients who were discharged after being brought in from the streets etc etc. I told her not to leave as good, qualified hardworking nurses ere hard to come by and that the patients really needed them. I was therefore amused to find that the following year a new wing was added to the dilapidated hospital building and was opened with great pomp and ceremony. Last year an underpass which obviously cost crores of rupees was being built. I do honestly hope that Mr Rane will address these basic needs of the hospital, as the people using this hospital suffer endless traumas. The dirt that surrounds the hospital also needs to be addressed if rats are to be controlled. Please do help. Yvonne Pereira Caranzalem _ MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/
[Goanet] GMC declines to accept equipment for eye bank? Why?
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org This is not the first time. I heard that GMC had also refused hearing aid equipments from another Rotary Club. When NGO's want to help the society, why do the government bodies refuse to accept authentic help? Dr. Jen = Not many eye donors in Goa NT NETWORK Posted on 2008-01-02 http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2008010222 PANAJI- The authorities at the Goa Medical College said the eye bank could not be started at the apex hospital of the state because of various problems, including lack of people seeking transplant, donors of eyes and trained ophthalmic surgeon in carrying out corneal transplants. Dr Pradeep Naik, professor and head of department of ophthalmology of GMC, said that as per the central guidelines an eye bank could be set up in district or state that has population of 25 lakh and over it but Goa did not meet that requirement as the state?s total population did not cross 15 lakh. He also said that there was no trained specialist in the field at the GMC. Stating that the eyes of a donor have to be removed within six hours of death of the person and that they could be stored up to a week, Dr Naik said that transplant has to be done within a week. He informed that the number of people seeking corneal transplant in the state was very low. He said that there was not much volume for those seeking corneal transplant in the state, besides the number of donors was very less as such if at all the Goan surgeons and other staff (like nurses and technicians) were trained for the purpose they would hardly have any work. Dr V N Jindal, the dean of GMC, said that there was no problem as far as funds were concerned but the problem was to get the trained personnel for the job and get the number of cases for eye transplant to keep the trained personnel occupied. Dr Jindal also said the Rotary Club had approached him with the proposal for donating the equipment for starting an eye bank in the GMC but after discussions with the consultants of the ophthalmology department it was decided that the idea was not feasible given various constraints. The GMC authorities also had practical difficulties in deputing an ophthalmic surgeon to L V Prasad eye hospital at Hyderabad, where the specialised operations in corneal transplant are routinely carried out, and as such declined to accept the proposal of the Rotary Club in setting up the eye bank at GMC. Dr. Jen Vasco-da-gama, Goa/ Birmingham UK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VascokarsUnited/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IEIGLC/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GoanStudentsAbroad/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GreenGoa/ ==
[Goanet] GMC behaviour
Hi, Some people suffer from sellective understanding. 1) Rich or poor go to GMC because they have a right to do so as Tax Payers. 2) GMC have got, or say they have the best machinery than the private ones PAID BY THE TAX PAYERS. only to find they are broken down due to inexperienced doctors. 3) The second statement mentioned was made by me not JC. The GMC doctors are not well mannered - just ignorant. (as I said, I have experienced it there) 4) That junior doctor did not see it comming, because they think they are gods. As Samir said, no doctor was humiliated, upon his enquirey he found out the other doctors said doctors A, B AND C should have been slapped instead. JANE! take your blinders OFF. Treatment at the GMC is a lottery. ED. - Jane Gillian said: 1) As per e-mail of Colaco "I absolutely disagree with Jane wrt 'Govtmt hospitals are meant for the poor and those who cannot afford private hospitals'. My reply - I still want to know why rich Goans go for "phookat" treatment to govtmt hospitals when they can afford to go to pvt hospitals?? 2)Colaco - I fail to understand (my fault) the statement "I feel sorry for the doctor who took the brunt, but somebody had to be slapped at the GMC". My response - Thank goodness, the GMC doctor was well-mannered and did not slap the "junglee" woman who slapped and humiliated him.
[Goanet] GMC behavior [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was wondering why government hospitals in Goa these days have turned into 7 star hotels from 4 star hospitals in 1960s. Vishva.Jeat gets one more reason to celebrate! Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad MODERATOR'S NOTE: Trimmed extra bytes from earlier post.
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Dear Gabriel, The impression you have given of the Goa Hospitals is similar to the one I have on my digital camera. I could not of course capture the perfume. The only part I disagree with your post is the time frame you have placed my training at the two hospitals. Needless to say, even when I commenced my training i.e. when they no longer were 'Hospital de Ribandar and Hospital Escolar', the hospitals were as clean as 4 star hotels. I first saw Asilo and Hospicio only in the early 1970s. They were positive dumps. So, I have no method of comparing except from the opinions of my seniors who had worked there before they were "dumpified". jc == 2008/9/2 Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to Jane Gillian I am not quite sure I understand Jane. Is she saying that she has actually visited the GMC and actually found it clean? My experiences (having visited the place a few years ago) Could add more, but I refrain... Asilo of Mapuça is another story. Have you walked / biked / driven past the Asilo hospital? Last time I did, there were raw bloodied bandages outside covered in blue-bottle files, smell of anitibiotic everywhere, a prime location for infection if there was one. Compare that to the previous Hospital de Ribandar and Hospital Escolar, if you have contacts with any people who were treated there in the early 60s. I understand Dr. José Colaço did his training there during that period.
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--- On Tue, 2/9/08, jane gillian rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: jane gillian rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Goanet] GMC behaviour > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], goanet@lists.goanet.org > Received: Tuesday, 2 September, 2008, 6:55 PM > > I have visited patients in GMC on many occassions and I > have never experienced filth in the hospital or uncouth > behaviour from the staff. > I am not quite sure I understand Jane. Is she saying that she has actually visited the GMC and actually found it clean? My experiences (having visited the place a few years ago): 1. Cleaners dumping rubbish out the window of the ward they were cleaning - when remonstrated, said they had no option 2. Overflowing toilets 3. Cows grazing on the rubbish 4. Dogs everywhere 5. Windows not cleaned (appears not cleaned since they were installed) 6. Dingy public room, having only one of three tubelights working (tubelights were required because hardly any light filtered through the one window wchih was covered in dust), with a scrawl on the wall on the side of the cafetaria "shop" reading "Garbos will take over" (presumably written by an Australian, as garbo is Aussie slang for garbage collectors). 7. Walls and most corners covered in paan-spit. 8. No lifts or elevators in the buildings. Quality of "finish" of the buildings has much to be desired. No ramps between the road and the building, necessiating strong assistance to help people on crutches to negotiate the steps. 9. Wheel-chairs of a design of the 1930s - just a metal chair with wheels attached, heavy, difficult to maneuvre, no padding. Ditto with stretchers. Could add more, but I refrain. Asilo of Mapuça is another story. Have you walked / biked / driven past the Asilo hospital? Last time I did, there were raw bloodied bandages outside covered in blue-bottle files, smell of anitibiotic everywhere, a prime location for infection if there was one. Compare that to the previous Hospital de Ribandar and Hospital Escolar, if you have contacts with any people who were treated there in the early 60s. I undertsand Dr. José Colaço did his training there during that period. Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset
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Gillian Rodrigues wrote: 1: I still want to know why rich Goans go for "phookat" treatment to govtmt hospitals when they can afford to go to pvt hospitals?? 2: Why don't we visit colaco's house or country, "to test out" in the below manner and dress, how he will react to us?? 3: I have visited patients in GMC on many occassions and I have never experienced filth in the hospital or uncouth behaviour from the staff. == Dear Gillian, First of all, I am happy that you did not see any filth at GMC. I will now discard the digital images I captured at GMC. I cannot answer your question: "why rich Goans go for "phookat" treatment to govtmt hospitals". You will have to ask them. I will only say this: Treatment at Public Hospitals is the right of every resident - rich or poor. It is also my submission that public services will be better when ALL citizens/residents access those services equally. Otherwise, there will be a State-engineered Two-Tiered health system. One for the Rich, One for the Poor. That, I add, is neither good for health care, nor for the State. I also believe that private Health Care is necessarily Profit-Oriented. That leads to short cuts in the delivery of Health Care. When you have the opportunity, please review the Health Care situation in the UK at the end of the Second World War. It might explain why Winston Churchill helped Britain to 'win the war" but lost the election. Labour was elected by a landslide and Bevan introduced the NHS. Please read WHY. I am afraid that you will NOT be able to visit INCOGNITO either the country where I live or the little home i reside in. Visiting another country necessitates that you show proof of your identity. The security at our little home will do the same. However, once you are here legally, you may wish to visit me in the hospital incognito. You will see for yourself that we treat every person in the same manner. After all, the Patients are the reason why we are in business. They are our bosses. We are only here as their advisers. And ...They do not even have to follow our advice. That is their right. Along with that right, they also assume responsibility. And I have NO problems telling the parents of my little patients ...WHO the BOSS is and WHO is the one who bears responsibility IF our considered advice is not followed. I have exhausted my knowledge on this subject and suggest that you have the last word on it. sincerely jc
[Goanet] GMC behaviour
Dear Goanetters, As per e-mail of Colaco "I absolutely disagree with Jane wrt 'Govtmt hospitals are meant for the poor and those who cannot afford private hospitals'. My reply - I still want to know why rich Goans go for "phookat" treatment to govtmt hospitals when they can afford to go to pvt hospitals?? Colaco - I fail to understand (my fault) the statement "I feel sorry for the doctor who took the brunt, but somebody had to be slapped at the GMC". My response - Thank goodness, the GMC doctor was well-mannered and did not slap the "junglee" woman who slapped and humiliated him. Colaco - "I invite other netters to go incognito to "test out" the service" My response - Why don't we visit colaco's house or country, "to test out" in the below manner and dress, how he will react to us?? Colaco - "These tax-payers have a right to healthcare at those hospitals". My response - I fully agree. Is Sonia the "slapper," or her mother - "taxpayers"? Please check and let me know. I have visited patients in GMC on many occassions and I have never experienced filth in the hospital or uncouth behaviour from the staff. Regards, -- Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:20:31 -0400 From: "J. Colaco < jc>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] woman slaps GMC doctor - hats off to Sonia - Dears, I can very well understand the grief felt by Ms Mhambre at the loss of her mother. I can also accept that different individuals handle stress differently. However, the fact remains that Ms. Mhambre assaulted and committed battery on the young doctor. She should have to face the consequences of her illegal act. The next thing we might hear from some looney bin is that it is OK to bomb police stations and slap police officers because (in general) the police are rude, inefficient and corrupt. I fail to understand (my fault) the statement "I feel sorry for the doctor who took the brunt, but somebody had to be slapped at the GMC". Just imagine if a hardworking and otherwise law-abiding "Bhaillo" was upset by the way some Goans were treating "Bhaille" in general, and just decided to slap "eddie" or "jose" who happened to be walking on the road. I absolutely disagree with Jane wrt 'Govtmt hospitals are meant for the poor and those who cannot afford private hospitals'. That approach, IMHO, is the best way to destroy a Govt Hospital. Besides, health care at hospitals is provided/subsidised by the taxes paid by the citizens/residents of a place. These tax-payers have a right to healthcare at those hospitals. What they do not have, are preferential rights which are also (and corruptly) afforded to Politicians and other VIPs. If everyone was afforded the same rights, privileges and service, there would actually be an improvement of service for all. The Goa Medical College started off with two very clean hospitals providing very polite service. This was inherited from the Escola Medica tradition. I saw it personally a few years after the transition took place. The Goa Medical College (according to my understanding) provided better 'medical' service than the Escola which provided better 'surgical' service. The training of the Escola graduates was more geared to surgery - probably because of their enhanced study of Anatomy. It is during the Bamdodkar years esp when Karmali was Health Minister and Duarte Monteiro was replaced that the mess started. The Goa Govt has a long history of interference with GMC. The real breaking point came with the appointment of Vengsarkar as the Dean. Much time was spent in politics eg Maharashtrian professors v South Indian professors etc. I will not comment on the "accountability or lack of it" wrt the origins of the Bambolim project. Goan professionals, patients and Goa took a back seat. Anna Marie Goswami please take note. These non-Goan Health Secretaries, Deans, HoDs, Professors et al who had NO clue of Goan culture and obviously NO interest in Goans and Goa (except personal) took charge of Goa, bossed the Goans and set about the rot which has taken over the Goa hospitals. With ALL the crores allegedly invested in GMC and other hospitals, the state of the hospitals and the service provided is absolutely abysmal. The places are filthy, the sheets are unclean and the staff is rude. Some of the so called professors and other senior staff are full of themselves.(I believe that Edward has alluded to this) I can tell you that from personal experience.Over the past several years, I have been to GMC and to Hospicio (Margao) on a number of occasions, incognito i.e. with chappals, very simple clothes and speaking English really badly - like many guys in Goa normally do. The reception I got at the hospitals, and what I saw ... was positively awful. I invite other netters to go incognito to "test out" the service. I could not believe that the GMC I trained in and which had (at the time) 2 hospitals akin to a 4 star hotel ...had become this DUMP with newer equipment. T
[Goanet] GMC gets two state-of-the-art laboratory machinery
GMC gets two state-of-the-art laboratory machinery PANAJI: Two state-of-the-art laboratory machinery have been installed at the Goa Medical College and hospital (GMC) in Bambolim. The Minister for Health Mr Vishwajeet Rane commissioned the Rs 1.5 crore machinery at the hospital. The instruments from Abbott Healthcare System to be operated by the pathology department of GMC are fully computerised and automated for quick and accurate results, an official release issued here stated. The diagnostic tests which include cardiac profile, lipid profile, fertility makers and other related tests are conducted with the help of integrated Abbott system. This modern equipment would help to get faster diagnostic tests and treatment to the needy patients, Mr Rane said. The Government is endeavoring to provide better healthcare facilities to the people in the state. Necessary staff will be recruited in GMC and hospital to cater to the needs of patients, Mr Rane added. - PTI http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/blnus/27051320.htm ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] GMC alumni...
GMC alumni are meeting at Ettington Chase, a countryside hotel (Tel. 01789 74 ) on Saturday June 28.
[Goanet] GMC alumni against conversion of old complex into shopping mall
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor GMC alumni against conversion of old complex into shopping mall NT Staff Reporter Panaji, April 12 The former students of the Goa Medical College, including renowned medical practitioners today served an ultimatum to the government for cancellation of the lease contract regarding conversion of the old Goa Medical College building into a shopping mall by April 30, 2007. Threatening to intensify their agitation against the decision of the government of converting, the doctors claimed that more than 100 Goan doctors settled outside the state and abroad have pledged their full support for this cause, considering the emotional attachment they have to their alma-mater as well as due to the rich heritage of the said building. The delegation of doctors expressed their resentment at the lack of support from the Chief Minister's Office, for not entertaining their request for an appointment with the Chief Minister. The group later met the Leader of the Opposition, Mr Manohar Parrikar, who extended his support to the group's demand. The delegation comprised of Dr Rufino Monteiro, convenor, Dr Shekhar Salkar, joint convenor, Dr Oscar Rebello, Dr Anand Helekar, Dr Jayant Bhandari, Dr Deep Bhandari, Dr Fonseca, Dr Ms Fonseca, Dr Auria, Dr Ajay Estebeiro, Dr Ashok Raikar, Dr Sanjiv Juvarkar, Dr Govind Kamat, Dr Amol Tilve, Dr Shantaram Naik and others. The joint convenor of the doctors group, Dr Shekhar Salkar said that the movement started by the doctors has received tremendous response with more than 200 medical practitioners from the state having signed the protest letter to oppose the said decision of the government. The doctors group has also received support from several environmental and heritage groups in the state including the Heritage Network, the Association of Pharmacists, all state branches of the Indian Medical Association, Madkai Rashtrahit Manch, Public Grievances Forum, besides others. Meanwhile, the president of the Panaji Municipal Market Tenants Association, Mr Rajendra Dhamaskar, addressing a press conference, this evening said that the decision of the government would affect around thousand shop owners in the Panaji city as well as in the municipal market who are working hard to survive and earn their livelihood. "Once the shopping mall is set up, the entire business of these shop owners would be diverted towards the shopping mall as the old GMC complex is located in the heart of the city," he added. "If the government still proceeds with its plan to convert the heritage building into a shopping mall, then we would be forced to come on the streets to oppose the decision, and if necessary, approach the court of law against the decision," Mr Dhamaskar pointed out. The members of the association as well as the traders in the market also gave a memorandum to the Chief Minister requesting him to review the controversial decision. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=041316
