Re: [Goanet] Late Dr. Teotonio de Souza
What's the second part of his life got to do with the discussion on Goan history? His body was laid in the church. Vatican has said that celibacy will continue. End of matter. Eugene On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:10 PM E DeSousa wrote: > John Nazareth writes: > > To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" > > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Late Dr. Teot?nio de Souza > Message-ID: > < > bn6pr22mb1668ae5e2cbdbf32909aac31ff...@bn6pr22mb1668.namprd22.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > With respect to Eugene's question, I had written only part of a > conversation with Teotonio to make a particular point to Teotonio's credit. > Eugene has a point, so I will expand on it. > > When my wife and I were on our way to meet Teotonio in Lisbon in 1999 I > asked her NOT to ask him why he left the priesthood. > When we finally met him, it was the first question she asked him. > His answer was interesting. He said (I paraphrase): ?If one talks against > the Trinity no one says anything. But if one raises issues against the > Church, you will feel its wrath.? > And then he added: ?I served Jesus for 26 of the best years of my life. > Jesus will not forget me.? > Amen > > John > > - > > Comment: > > Why is there no mention of the most important event in the second half of > Dr. Teotonio's life after he left the church and spent the rest of his > years as a married man with the blessings of the church?Would not that be > relevant to the trajectory of his life and how that relates to the issues > of celibacy for priests in the Catholic church currently being scrutinized? > > E. Joaquim. >
Re: [Goanet] Late Dr. Teotonio de Souza
Dear Egas, What makes you assume he left with the blessings of the Church specially since he mentioned about feeing its wrath? Roland. Toronto > On Feb 26, 2019, at 1:44 PM, E DeSousa wrote: > > Comment: > > Why is there no mention of the most important event in the second half of Dr. > Teotonio's life after he left the church and spent the rest of his years as a > married man with the blessings of the church?Would not that be relevant to > the trajectory of his life and how that relates to the issues of celibacy > for priests in the Catholic church currently being scrutinized? > > E. Joaquim.
Re: [Goanet] Late Dr. Teotonio de Souza
John Nazareth writes: To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Subject: Re: [Goanet] Late Dr. Teot?nio de Souza Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" With respect to Eugene's question, I had written only part of a conversation with Teotonio to make a particular point to Teotonio's credit. Eugene has a point, so I will expand on it. When my wife and I were on our way to meet Teotonio in Lisbon in 1999 I asked her NOT to ask him why he left the priesthood. When we finally met him, it was the first question she asked him. His answer was interesting. He said (I paraphrase): ?If one talks against the Trinity no one says anything. But if one raises issues against the Church, you will feel its wrath.? And then he added: ?I served Jesus for 26 of the best years of my life. Jesus will not forget me.? Amen John - Comment: Why is there no mention of the most important event in the second half of Dr. Teotonio's life after he left the church and spent the rest of his years as a married man with the blessings of the church?Would not that be relevant to the trajectory of his life and how that relates to the issues of celibacy for priests in the Catholic church currently being scrutinized? E. Joaquim.
Re: [Goanet] Late Dr. Teotonio de Souza
GL responds: I think John Nazareth's question to Dr. Teo is very pertinent given the several negative accounts Teo has written about the Church, the Jesuits and their founder St. Francis Xavier. As I have written before, Teo's account of the Catholic Church, Jesuits and SFX would be read as an account of a divorced man who is writing about his ex-wife family. These issues some of us raised with Teo over the last few years, with no clarification. Some may think this is writing about a person who cannot defend himself. Yet, that is precisely what Teo does to St. Francis Xavier, his work and writings. Perhaps now both of them can square it out themselves mano -o- mano. Yet one person sacrificed and endured for Jesus. While the other pontificated about Him. I am only talking about Teo the historian and his work which will be quoted extensively by many who do not know Teo's background. What is even worse Goans of today and tomorrow will be living with his legacy. Regards, GL -From: Eugene Correia Why should have Dr. Teo tell him? That's personal and he was right to be evasive. Was John interviewing him on his personal life or in context of the 1st Int'l Goan Convention's 30th anniversary? If John wants to know the answer, let him try the Superior-General of the Jesuits. --- John Nazareth wrote: When he was asked why he left the Jesuits, he said "I gave 26 of the best years of my life to Jesus and He will not forget me." -- John Nazareth, Toronto, February 2019. Roland Francis wrote: Something is missing somewhere. Teotonio's answer did not address the question.
